Nissan GT-R outperforms expectations
31 Dec, 2007
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When Nissan first released the performance figures for its new GT-R, many scoffed at the unbelievably quick times Nissan were toting - 3.5 seconds to 100km/h and an 11.6 second run down the quarter mile off the showroom floor… right.
However as journalists the world over get their hands on the new GT-R, it seems Nissan has actually been conservative with their performance figures, with auto-magazine Edmunds recording a 3.3 second sprint to 100km/h and matching the blisteringly quick 11.6 second quarter mile at 196km/h - and from only two attempts.
This puts the GT-R well into supercar territory, at less than a quarter of the price.
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December 31st, 2007 at 1:42 pm
enough said
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December 31st, 2007 at 1:50 pm
‘private owner’ lending their GT-R to u.s. journos! C’Advice
you should think about getting on the next plane!!
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December 31st, 2007 at 2:00 pm
Hate GTR - how much of a wanker do you want to seem?
I dont even wish to guess at the car you are driving.
Im not going to pretend im deciding whether to get one or not. Im not going to pretend i have the money to make that decision. I dont. I think the car looks and sounds bloody great and obviously goes well too. My only gripe with the car would be 1. Weight (but apparently it doesnt feel as heavy as it is, and vspec will be lighter anyway) 2. the plasma lined cylinder bores scare me with the regular attention they require. Otherwise this is a car that will run with just about anything thats ever come out of a showroom… Good stuff Nissan!
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December 31st, 2007 at 2:10 pm
Thats a pretty good result……….
I have a question for you Scott..what the hell are plasma lined cylinder bores??
And why do they need servicing !
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December 31st, 2007 at 2:22 pm
Hate GTR
Buy european do you mean LADA? or VOLGA
Pole smoker
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December 31st, 2007 at 2:28 pm
Addtionally what do you have to doubt any of Nissan’s claims so far?
Every claim they have made has been exceeded under journalistic use.
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December 31st, 2007 at 2:30 pm
The personal attacks are a bit childish, and the GTR might be a sensational performer for the money, but it still looks like it was stapled together out of sheets of plywood.
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December 31st, 2007 at 2:36 pm
Just watched the video. The 3.3 seconds is for 0-60mph (as it would be for an American publication). Nissan claims 3.5 seconds for 0-100km/h. That explains the 0.2 seconds difference.
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December 31st, 2007 at 2:36 pm
So…”Hate GTR”… you can afford a fancy car. That makes you better than everyone else and your opinion more valid?
You’re post is inflammatory. We don’t care how small your penis is. This is a forum about cars, not the people that drive them.
Don’t like the GTR? That’s ok. Say so. Don’t go on about how you don’t like it because of the people that drive them, or that the PRICE of a car is what makes it great. Drive a Porsche do you? I love them. But I love this car too, for what it represents. Fantastic, modern engineering at its best.
We all love different cars for different reasons. All cars have their charms.
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December 31st, 2007 at 2:41 pm
Mainwaring it is only a 3km difference I do not think that makes the .2 seconds difference.
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December 31st, 2007 at 2:43 pm
HATE GTR
Sounds like someone has spent alot of dough on their european car - and now feels somewhat bitter that a cheaper car outperforms it
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December 31st, 2007 at 2:48 pm
Hate GTR, this ain’t no Skyline, it’s a new Nissan supercar!
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December 31st, 2007 at 2:57 pm
GTR = King of the tuner cars… its not that pretty looking but it has its OWN look which is a postive!!!!
getting that much performance for so little is great… you can tell that it built just for performance and speed…but thats not a bad thing…
Saying this its not mine type of car… i am more in to Muscle cars, shelbyGT500 and GT40… but saying that i can respect what this car is and what it does!!!
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December 31st, 2007 at 3:01 pm
Its obviously really, people who bought expensive European cars now looks like complete idiots comparing their cars to the Nissan GT-R.
They get blown away so they hate it, simple.
Don’t believe me? Ask Jim Richards.
Good work Nissan.
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December 31st, 2007 at 3:49 pm
Chris, it would explain the difference if 0.2 is 0.16 rounded up. Note that the standing quarter is exactly in line with the claim.
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December 31st, 2007 at 4:13 pm
Whats the fasinantion with 0 -100kmh
Is that how you drive from every stop/traffic light?
GREAT job by Nissan all ther same!
The mail is the new Lexus V10 sportscar has gone around the Ring in 7.24s it must be faster than the GT-R?
Cheers
F-0
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December 31st, 2007 at 4:22 pm
Hate GTR’s comments are amazing.
But don’t mock him. Daddy’s bought him a vewy expenthive motor car - probably a Zil rather than that downmarket Volga crap - and he doesn’t like the upstart Nissan’s astounding performance figures.
This is a huge accomplishment by Nissan that is going to send all other manufacturers back to the drawing board.
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December 31st, 2007 at 4:25 pm
Hate GTR - You are a complete tosser.
Yes it might not be the most beautiful car, but for the price - the performance is incredible. It is a testament to Nissan that the car is being compared to cars much more expensive….
Assuming a 150k landing price in Aus, that would put it against the likes of Cayman, M3, RS4 (not the 911 Turbo or more it is being compared to now). They are all great cars - but can’t compete for performance against the GT-R.
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December 31st, 2007 at 4:27 pm
True come to think about it volga is out of business so he cant own one of those.
i would love to see one of those gtrs in the flesh. not a nissan man myself but it does look sexy
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December 31st, 2007 at 5:07 pm
Brilliant car. Phenomenal. This gives mere mortals the chance to own something very special for a third of the price. It’s not a slapped together parts bin IVF job, but more a project from the ground up. Credit where credit is due, and Nissan deserves all of it!
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December 31st, 2007 at 5:24 pm
Bavarian Missile - The plasma lined cylinder bores are essentially an alternative to cylinder sleeves. Most new engines these days are made of an alloy for the weight but they use different material for the cylinder bores due to the nature of their job in the engine. Nissan claims it saves something like a kilogram but requires relining yearly. I want to see more development on this as i havent heard all details, i dont understand why they’d have found a kilo that important when it isnt even reciprocating mass so there must be more to it.
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December 31st, 2007 at 5:31 pm
Hate GTR im not going to bother too much with the ‘back and forths’ with you. If you do truly own such an expensive european car then good for you. We all salute you mate. Your comments elude to the fact that you are still a dickhead though. European cars are great, unfortunately the resale and dollar per performance dont make them worthwhile in my books if you live in australia. As for driving a Commodore.. are you a truly stupid mate? Most commodore owners (not all) would be bagging the gtr with you although they’d show a modicum more intelligence than you. I dont take your comments too seriously, you may have money or you may be full of shit? Fact is there’d be little your car could do better than the gtr! I dont often make comments like this but you obviously wanted attention making such stupid comments, or maybe you just thought it would be a good way to stroke your ego talking of your expensive car (again bravo by the way)?? Either way enjoy your car if you do in fact own it and i hope your ego doesnt take too hard a fall if you ever come across a new gtr on the road!!
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December 31st, 2007 at 5:33 pm
Scott, whatever more there is to it, who is going to want to strip the engine down every year? Is this the car’s achilles heel, or has somebody made this up?
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December 31st, 2007 at 5:58 pm
Capt,
I think that has come about because plasma-sprayed engines are usually reserved for cars like a Koenigsegg or similar supercar that do require yearly attention to the engine.
I have not seen anything specifically stating that the GT-R will require this level of attention.
Cheers
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December 31st, 2007 at 6:11 pm
Scott C: If you go on StreetCommodores.com you’ll see they love the car over there!
Price for performance wise this is simply the best car to come to market in almost a decade. It’s a fabulous achievement for Nissan. All that remains to be seen is what the costs of ownership look like.
I’d love to see them racing over here.
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December 31st, 2007 at 6:14 pm
^The plasma-coated cylinder liner bores are just 0.15mm thick, compared with conventional cast iron liners of 2.6mm. They are better at dissipating heat, improving efficiency and they’re lighter, saving about 3 kg in a V6 engine. To ensure sufficient lubrication of the sprayed-on cylinder liner in the aluminium block, special synthetic engine oil is used: Mobil-1 RP OW-40. Would be an expensive recall if Nissan have got it wrong!!
Also a comment on a post from hategtr (subsequently removed)regarding fuel economy. I think hategtr stated 8.2liters per100klms. I believe this was a misquote and should have been 8.2klms per litre which equates to a slightly more realistic figure of 12.2ltrs/100klms as claimed by Nissan.
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December 31st, 2007 at 6:14 pm
Cheers Scott………sounds all very difficult to save a kilo
there must be other benefits ……..is it harder than Chrome Molly?
Our block had chrome molly sleeves because it was supercharged so maybe its also a strength plus?
Either way I bet there not cheap to replace!
Still I guess the original owners can afford them its the ones in 10 years that want one will find it an expensive replacement!
Looking forward to a Top Gear review on it! With the Stig at the wheel….that will be interesting!
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December 31st, 2007 at 6:25 pm
Now thats even more interesting Lcat…….Thanks for the extra info!
Importjap…….Im with you something like the Performance Series would be good!
So whos driving one in next years Tassie Targa??? Jason White?
He won in his own car last time from memory ……great effort from a local too!
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December 31st, 2007 at 6:35 pm
Actually CaptainMainwaring, talking about 0-100 km times. Taking into the 3.5km/h difference, 60 mi/h = 96.5 km/h, to cover this would take the GTR an extra 0.1 seconds. Ie. 3.4s Assuming average linear acceleration for simplification.
Also, if you actually watched the video review, the reviewer comments that they could “shave another tenth or two” off that time if they were on a better surface than the airstrip. Which would bring 0-100 km/h up in 3.2s.
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December 31st, 2007 at 6:50 pm
A phenomenal ripsnorter car at a sensational price. Stunning footage and yes it would be quicker on a different surface.
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December 31st, 2007 at 6:53 pm
BM re Targa Tas:
GT-R will be in Donut King livery and has been entered by Tony Alford. Jason will be in his Lambo Gallardo.
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December 31st, 2007 at 7:54 pm
Nice to see the site owners removing blogs from a certain individual. It’s a forum for enthusiasts, not nutters.
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December 31st, 2007 at 8:19 pm
Tis a top website and ALBORZ and others do a perfect job in my view…GOLFSCWEIN you are right. Wicked cute car hey with deadly fast performance!
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December 31st, 2007 at 8:49 pm
Thats a shame…….Jason was in the Lambo last year too wasn’t he? I went to school in Hobart with a bunch of the White boys…..Dads though I expect!
Whos Tony Alford…….name rings a bell!
Golfschwein…………..this why I am over on this post I couldn’t handle the crap any longer on the Prius one……
Stay away from the Pool tonight cause you may hurt someone with one of those bombies if your at it again!!!!!hehehe
NM your not out yet???????
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December 31st, 2007 at 8:55 pm
NM …..Im am seriously thinking of moving on to another site cause Im sick of the bitching and tact changing when people cant admit their wrong and start resorting to name calling.You and many others that I privately chat to also agree ……..sheer frustration rages when some just dont listen to what your saying!!!!!!
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December 31st, 2007 at 9:28 pm
Hey BM was that Friends or Hutchins ?
I think Tony Alford is a Gold Coast accountant that is a car racing enthusiast & for additional trivia was involved in the acrimonious wind up of Michael Hutchence’s estate.
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December 31st, 2007 at 9:50 pm
BM: Namecalling happens on any site unfortunately. Perhaps CA should think about creating an ‘ignore user’ feature or something?
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December 31st, 2007 at 10:08 pm
Lcat…..neither…….Hutchins is a all boys school! I don’t think I would get accepted!
My step kids go to Friends………
Importjap……..the sooner we get moderators and a real Forum the better! This crap doesn’t happen on AFF……..they get kicked off!
Would you sell the Audi for a GTR?????? I wouldn’t sell the M3 for one,but I guess I am an enthusiast……my son would!
Has just parked his skyline in the backyard awaiting a new shell to swap parts over to! It ain’t pretty! What can you do though……Hw still has his Levin !
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December 31st, 2007 at 10:16 pm
Typo……he not hw!!
Importjap and Lcat Momo Me and Scott Happy New Year……….I hope it is for you all!!! And to all the other posters on the site…..good or bad!!
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December 31st, 2007 at 10:35 pm
Thanks BM same 2 u and all bloggers here and the Car Advice
team.
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December 31st, 2007 at 11:25 pm
BM: I fear the GT-R would be an immense cost both to purchase and keep going so probably not, especially knowing my right foot in performance imports! I’m eyeing off the new 5 series Bimmer atm. Can’t quite afford the M3 tho
Happy new year to you too BM, and all visitors. I hope you and yours stay safe and prosperous in 2008.
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January 1st, 2008 at 12:01 am
Happy new year to everyone here!!!
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January 1st, 2008 at 12:04 am
Not long for your countdown for 2008……..
If your ever in the West my wheels are yours! I expect the same hahaha………..I trust in its heritage fully………never have to top up the oil even after all the thrashing she gets!{sometimes can be a let
down…….like you should expect it of years of real thrashing } I guess this is why I’m such a BMW lover after 20 years………I thrash the date out of my cars always have……..BMW have meet my demands! Thats why Ive stayed true to them…….I don’t know how many compression lock ups I have done in them or snatched them in second!They have remained brilliant!
New eyebrow 5 series look great I think……second hand is ALWAYS A GOOD ALTERNATIVE.! I mean my almost 10 year old M3 is .2 of a second slower than the E46 version! 236 kws or 250kws……….not a big difference especially if you can launch well!5.5 -100 or 5.2-100 you know what I am saying!
10.9 8 .7 6 5 4 3 2 1 Happy New Year…….
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January 1st, 2008 at 12:30 am
^LOL @ you!
When I posted my last comment here, it was already 2008! 12:01am EST.
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January 1st, 2008 at 6:32 am
Do you think CA should have a simple registration process for blogging - that might weed out the off subject and idiotic comments from some?
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January 1st, 2008 at 11:03 am
Thanks BM for the new years message! I was asleep by 9pm sick (not alcohol induced either).
It is good to see some messages on here deleted but then it looks like im having a rant about nothing!! lol. Oh well.
Take care all, good luck with the resolutions. Ive been awake 3hours and havent yet broken mine…
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January 1st, 2008 at 11:22 am
Thanks BM, happy new year to you and everyone one here.
Compression lockups? Haha I see you have been wearing fancy footwear that make heel toeing difficult.
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January 1st, 2008 at 1:42 pm
one thing I hate about that video,
Neeeeeesssssssannnnnnnnnnnn
noooo Nissan fooL!
and yes New Year wishes to all. Drive safe!
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January 1st, 2008 at 2:06 pm
Is that how the yanks say it, “Neesan”? I agree Alien, it’s, “Nissan”
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January 1st, 2008 at 2:28 pm
^whatever your accent this GT-R is a nice-an.
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January 1st, 2008 at 2:29 pm
Scott hope your feeling better now mate!Thats a terrible way to spend New Years!
Japanese always underrate their performance cars I thought! A better thing than over rating them and being disappointed!
Momo I was young and silly…….what can I say!hahaha
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January 1st, 2008 at 4:13 pm
Well, you’ll be pleased to know that Nissan + Momo = Nismo.
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January 1st, 2008 at 11:05 pm
i knew nissan had great expectations to live up to but theyve absolutely hammered it, this things in a class of its own- stuff of legends already
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January 2nd, 2008 at 3:38 pm
Man this is so awesome! While watching I was wondering whether the owner had actually let the engine run-in yet? I know modern cars don’t really require a run-in process like they used to but still.
Can’t wait to start seeing these on the roads. Unfortunately there will be the inevitable carjacking of course
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January 2nd, 2008 at 4:18 pm
It has to be said but first.
This car is awesome and for the price it is amazing and if i had half a chance i sure would get one but…
It does not inspire the same passion as a Ferrari or the beauty of an Aston or the Wildness of a Lambo. Admittedly for a car to have a soul of a super car its an extra $200,000 you have to wonder, though the point is the same. It does not invigorate me like the other cars that i put in the “supercar class”.
Track credentials sure, but its just a perfect rocket without a soul. Unless they get infected by the Cogito Virus… (wonder how many people pick up that reference)
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January 2nd, 2008 at 8:12 pm
Anthonii - I can see where you are coming from and you have a point, especially when comparing the Nissan brand with the likes of Ferrari and Lamborghini.
But I wouldn’t go so far as to say it has no soul. There are a lot of GT-R enthusiasts myself included that want the new one to still be a GT-R in character and that includes not only its appearance but its unique driving characteristics and feel (rear drive on turn-in for communicative steering with front drive added for excellent traction on corner exit for example). You also shouldn’t have to look too far to learn about the GT-R’s history - before the R32 in 1989 which was the first of the new-era GT-Rs there was the C10 and C110 GT-Rs which dominated their class both in Japan and abroad. So the GT-R “brand” does have heritage, a soul even, if not in the same ilk as marques like some of the ones you’ve mentioned.
I think you could liken the GT-R a little more to BMW M and the M3 - it has international racing pedigree and is a car that punches above its weight. Like the M3 it is also based (loosely as is the case with the R35) on a conventional passenger car body (unlike Ferraris and Lambos) but has had an utterly comprehensive overhaul.
One cannot overlook the practical benefits of not being designed like a Ferrari in that it would be very comfortable and practical as an everyday driver, as well as on the track.
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January 2nd, 2008 at 9:43 pm
I only speak realativly…
Comparing soul for soul against the italians is a lost cause. But it is one of the ingredients that make it a super car for me.
I\’m not trying to poop on the nissan because its not even interested in being a supercar. And is awesome in what it does.
Its kind of like saying Sony can make an awesome tv/movie picture but i would not commision them to do a painting, if that makes sense?
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January 2nd, 2008 at 9:44 pm
Damn cookies at home… that would be “Anthonii”, “Anthony” was already taken
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January 3rd, 2008 at 2:43 am
Actually, they have done a test of the GT-R, driving it back to back against a 911 turbo on Top Gear. To sum it up, they said that the GT-R is faster than the porka around corners and handles better. Here are some of the quotes, “I have no doubt that this is the best all round car i’ve ever driven” And, “It makes the porsche feel primitive” And, “An engineering masterpiece”
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January 3rd, 2008 at 2:45 am
One of my most favourite quotes on the GTR comes from Mizuno, the chief engineer of the GTR - “Don’t ask why this car is so cheap, ask why other manufacturer’s cars are so expensive”
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January 6th, 2008 at 11:57 am
Would be great if someone qualified could fill us in on the whole Plasma sprayed biz. Ive been doing some research on databases and industry journals and this is what i have so far->
Advantages: Lightweight, narrow lining
More durable and wears at a fraction of the
rate of iron sleeves(*)
Massively reduced oil consumption/oil pollution
More fuel efficient
Disadvantages: High relative cost(Though this is reducing)
(*) Strength is highly sensitive to oil
composition(not condition).
Wrong oil = dead motor.
Plasma bores generally don’t respond the
same way to tuning(upscaling) as iron
sleeves. Iron sleeves have a lifespan that
is ~ inversely proportional to the increase
in output(to a point).
Plasma sprayed bores have the same
lifespan as output increases but when they
get to a point(usually not much above the
intended load) the liner collapses and peels
away, Net Result = Dead engine
What the intended load is for this car, i
won’t speculate but apparently it should be
capable of outlasting iron sleeves at
rated load.
I’m still trying to understand why they need relining every year????????????
Any help appreciated.
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January 6th, 2008 at 2:45 pm
Sorry for the gibberish:
intended load = rated load = the power output that Nissan
designed the bore liners(thickness/composition) to handle.
At this power output the plasma sprayed bore liners should outlast iron sleeve liners.
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January 7th, 2008 at 11:33 pm
GP900BJ,
Given that Nissan intend to be racing these cars I’d guess that they have some decent amount of room for a bit of play with the motor.
More so, the engine now that it exists is only going to get better with time and even better we will one day see innovations developed with this car appear across the whole range of Nissan cars - at least in theory.
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May 2nd, 2008 at 3:13 am
LOVE GTR.
One of the Top Gear hosts did a review on the R32 GTR back then as well. He also quoted back then: “This the the best car I’ve ever driven”.
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