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VACC speaks concerns over Cleaner Car Rebate scheme

By Brett Davis |

The Gillard Government is aiming to provide a cleaner environment by offering all those in possession of a car with a built date before 1995 a $2000 rebate to go towards a newer, more economical car.

Even the Victorian Automobile Chamber of Commerce thinks this cash for clunkers proposal is nuttier than a Kellogg’s commercial though. In a recent report, executive director of VACC, David Purchase, said,

“I am inclined to think this is more about spin and being seen to be doing something for the environment than actually getting inefficient and unsafe cars off the road. If you drive a clunker, chances are you are not financially well off and therefore you are not going to be able to buy a new car, even with a $2,000 rebate.”

David Purchase also says that internal research shows that around 30 percent of the cars in Victoria are deemed unsafe, which he says is a figure too high. He proposes that motorists and governments should be focusing on keeping those old cars that are still on the road, safe, by means of educating drivers about servicing and maintenance.

“In our opinion, a better initiative would be to launch a public awareness campaign to encourage motorists to get their vehicle serviced, which would improve safety and reduce emissions,” Purchase said.

As with usual government schemes that seem to be focusing on ‘safety’, the foundations of the proposals are just about quick-fixes and pleasing the people; getting votes.


 
  • Playboy

    love that car

  • Simon

    Amen Brother!
    That smug Penny Wong should give herself and Juliar an uppercut.

  • Hung Low

    The name ‘Gillard’ is really really getting on my nerves!
    This Ginger Hyena and her parties stupid wastage of public money is criminal!

  • Nick

    It is not only about being greener, it is also about safety. Australia has a very old average car age. In Germany, they ran this exact scheme and it dropped the road toll by 16% in one state alone! Along with that, it continues to stimulate the economy and the car industry. I can’t think of a better way to spend the money. $2000 is not a lot but it is a good incentive to get people thinking about trading in their ridiculous 1992 Commodores and Falcons. The staggering amount of misinformation being spewed by the liberals in this campaign is what is criminal. There is no debt crisis nor is there a tax crisis. Our debt and taxation levels are among the very lowest in the Western world. But that is not for here. I just wish people would source their news and information from more places than Seven News

    • Dirt Diver

      No tax crisis? Are you kidding. Under Labor Govt’s at all levels, everything has gone up, rates, car rego, electricity, alcohol, cigarettes, food, the list is huge. Labor haven’t been able to pass the ETS, so when that little chestnut passes, then everything becomes dearer again. No debt problem? We borrow $100Million a day, that money has to be paid back, sure they say the budget will be in surplus by 2013, but when will the debt be paid off? Only one way that will happen, more taxes, the ETS and Super Profit Grab will be the tip of the iceberg.
      The VACC is right, a feel good poilcy to make the people think the Govt is acting, when in reality it is just spin.

      • Nick

        Some one has been watching their Liberal ads. Many of the taxes listed are state or council and as for cigs and booze, oh heavens no! Those taxes go to fund the health system. Shock. 100million a day is absolute chump change and at any rate, if we didn’t, we would be in recession.

        • Toxic_Horse

          Nick, A VR commodore is quite safe if you drive it safely. The problem we have in australia is your averyage person can’t drive.

        • Simon

          Chump change? Please take your one eye back to your labor party and keep your bias away from CA blog. The VACC is correct in it’s assessment of this sham. Gillard is incompetent. What was she voted in for? To create a ‘citizen’s assembly’ to do what exactly? FYI taxpayers are still paying for all sitting Labor party members and their staff’s travel and expenses up until they have their official campaign launch. The tax payer, not the Labor party.
          For the record, I’m not advocating the coalition. I am suggesting Labor is totally inept and this scheme is only further proof. Remind me where this scheme is getting it’s funding from?

        • Dirt Diver

          Most increases in the cost of living are due to the Labor Govts at state and Federal Level, different Lemon, same sour taste. If $100 million a day is chump change, why don’t you go and borrow a $1000 a day over the same length of time, and see how you go paying it back.
          Saying that without this massive incompetent spending we would be in recession is pure speculation. Australia was well positioned to ride out the storm thanks to the healthy position the economy was left in. The GFC was an excuse for Labor to go on a spending spree, without having to take responsibility for the massive debt they have created.
          I would say someone has been listening to too much spin from Swan and Gillard.

          • Nick

            Australia’s debt is at 6% of GDP. Compared to the UK and other western nations where it is at 94%. THERE IS NOT DEBT CRISIS. I am a university political student, I have no allegiance to either party, am objective, and would even have supported Liberals if they had kept Turnball.

            And I would also like to point out, the Liberal campaign is being supported by big tobacco under the guise of “Australian Retailers”.

          • Hung Low

            Nick says:”I am a university political student,”
            “and would even have supported Liberals if they had kept Turnball.”

            Sorry Nick – basics 101, which ever way you cut it you vote for the party not the stooge i.e PM
            Being a uni student now automatically means that you are correct? an expert? better informed from books that hypothesise future Australian political party policies? Please tell us as there are many on here that have probably experienced decades of real life political changes and affects on families, small business and pensions…..I am yet to see a publication that accurate in the Uni bookstore Nick!

            Talking about campaign’s, the Labor party expenditure on this campaign is easily double that of the opposition judging from the amout of garbage propaganda on television, and where do you think all that money is coming from?

    • Hung Low

      Hook line and sinker Nick? This is not about safety or green credentials it is about votes. In reality the uptake on this scheme will be minimal. Most people with worthless old bombs will be reluctant to spend up for a new car and go deeper into credit, or foresee the necessity of such a luxury when a $5k used car will fit the bill better!
      As for Germanys road toll improvement, it has a lot to do with their strict licensing and use of a stimulus package for something other than retail goods…like newer cars for new road users, promoted and strategised for safety, not some bogus green credentials!

  • Dennis

    If your driving a car that old, most likely you can’t afford a new car. I’m in that situation at the moment and “if” i did have the money i wouldn’t buy new anyways…

  • Jack

    Dealerships around Australia love the idea, more sales!
    Finance companies are even more happy! The ones who don’t have the cash will sign up for finance at 18.5%.

  • Toxic_Horse

    Ah the old Magna. The car that destroyed mitsubishi’s local reputation that it never managed to recover from.

    • jj

      i loved my 88 magna, and dad had a 90 model, he liked his too.

      once you know how to fix them, they are great!!

      most of the blown headgaskets can be resolved by re torquing the head down, you dont even need to take the head off!!!1

      not many left on the road now.

      • Hung Low

        That just leaves:
        - The self destructing auto gearbox
        - Loose timing chains
        - Faulty piston rings (oil rings)
        - Valve seats made from Play Doh.

        Other than that they were a good car for the time and the last of them were fine, but dodgy components from suppliers used with the first models had soiled their reputation for decades!

        • toxic_horse

          I actually had a 88 magna with a 5 speed. i put some elite wheels and decent rubber on it and it was quite fun to drive. Its just that the engine was a pig.

  • steve

    $2000 rebate to go towards a “newer car” (eg 5 to 6k)is not a silly idea, a silly idea would be $2000 rebate to go towards a “new” car (eg 14k plus) and a more silly idea would be to use that money to educate the public to service their cars………… yer right !
    they spent millions on educating the public how speed kills, and we are booking you for 5km over the limit to save lives not revenue.
    do a julie, use the money on cars not televison

  • Davo

    Intend to wear out the second set of tyres & get some value from the new pneumatic suspension parts fitted to the 92 AWD manual Subaru wagon.
    Runs well on PULP 9.0l/100km without driving for economy.
    Is scrapping something like this with a lot of life left in it really green? Doubt it.
    Talking of spin what is the real world economy for the SIDI 3.0l Commodore? Good as they claim?
    1735kg before people for a 3.0 l to push around??
    Could get a new car without finance but choosing to leave the funds where they are,till I have to.
    Debt free is a nice feeling.
    Talked to my mechanic about a replacement if it is forced on me,response was just get the same.
    Tight arse I am,but spend in other ways.

  • Dirt Diver

    The other problem I can see, is just like the first home owners grant, inflated prices. People will either go and buy cars they really can’t afford and dealers will probably increase the price of near new cars to take advantage of the $2000 and make more profit. Bottom line, people driving old cars fall into 2 categories, they like their car and don’t want to part with it, or they can’t afford to upgrade, either way $2000 will do little to help them. If people driving old cars decide to trade up, the $2000 might help them get into a newer car, but it won’t help with the increase in running costs, like Servicing, cause chances are, they aren’t spending too much on servicing their old car.

  • Owen Petersen

    National laws should be in place where by every car must have a roadworthy inspection anually from its 3rd bithday onwards(as in NSW). Once a car has reached either its 10th birthday or 175,000kms as per the warranties act the government should then pay a $2000 bonus towards a new car. This would stimulate both new car sales and supoort the mechanical trade industry whilst also clearing our roads of unsafe wrecks and reducing our exhaust gas emissions. This idea has been formulated over a cup of coffee at Trinity Honda in Cairns North Queensland by Jeff Harrop & Owen Petersen.

  • Barney

    Tony Abbott will give $3250 to employers if they hire people aged 50 or over. The money will be given AFTER 6 months of working.

    Tony’s scheme makes much more sense, people that drive pre-1995 cars like me do so because we cant afford to buy a newer one! I dont have a job at the moment either.

  • jj

    The dealers usually run minimum $2000 trade in on a crappy old car like that magna anyway, though jacking the prices up to do so.

    the whole scheme is retarded. when i used to drive around in $2000 clunkers, i couldnt afford a new car at all so this would’ve meant nothing to me.

    nice try… actually… no , no its not.

  • Blitzkrieg

    So what your’e saying owen is that my mothers 2005 Mazda 2 which has travelled 30,000km in 5yrs and probably 60,000km by its 10th birthday shall be deemed a wreck eh,to which the govt then dictates to you that you should buy a new car.I think not,you see there are plenty of cars of that age and kms that are well looked after and serviced that are still completely viable transport.
    You can’t place a year or distance factor in the determination of what constitutes a wreck of a car.
    This is pure govt spin,don’t fall for it.
    By the way, how was your latte.

  • Owen Petersen

    No Blitzrieg,

    What I’m saying is that every year after it is over 3 years of age it should have a roadworthy inspection done to make sure it is safe. When her car is ten years old if it fails a roadworthy she will then have the OPTION to trade in her old car and recieve an etra $2000 from the government towards her new car. If she choses to fix it at ten years of age and keep driving it that is her choice. Only the roadworthy should be manditory.

  • Blitzkrieg

    NSW has that inspection after 3yrs as you say.What other states do and don’t have it

  • Owen Petersen

    Queensland, Victoria, Western Australia nad possibly all the others don’t have a compulsory inspection. This policy would also asist in reducing the ratio of 1/5 car on the road being 15 years old or older.

    • Barney

      Dude, learn to click the red text “Reply”, and then type.

  • Alan

    Its now almost Febuary 2011,
    this scheme is happening?
    or just a political lie