HSV thinking Captiva?
1 Nov, 2007
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Holden Special Vehicles is considering building performance versions of Holden’s Korean sourced Captiva SUV. A report published in The Daily Telegraph this week suggests the company has been looking at expanding its line-up for some time.
News of a possible HSV Captiva comes only weeks after Ford Performance Vehicles showed off its tuned Territory F6 X at the Sydney Motor Show while Toyota has hit delays with the TRD HiLux.
Interestingly, HSV has denied rumours the company might be considering taking on the Hummer H3. As much as we would love to see an Australian tuned Hummer, we’ll have to wait for the V8 variant to arrive first.
HSV has been contacted for comment.
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November 1st, 2007 at 12:36 pm
Another half-baked idea to combat…Ford’s Line up
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November 1st, 2007 at 12:48 pm
what are they thinking?
do they want to ruin HSV’s image too?
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November 1st, 2007 at 12:50 pm
a V8 HSV Hummer Ute…now that would sell like crazy.
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November 1st, 2007 at 12:58 pm
Maybe not HSV, but DSV (Daewoo Special Vehicles)? A whole new line up, they can have of course the DSV Captiva, DSV Epica an a personal favourite DSV Barina
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November 1st, 2007 at 1:00 pm
FPV Terror 1
HSV Captured 0
who’d have thought it possible….
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November 1st, 2007 at 1:05 pm
Cool TOYOTA PAUL is funny…. LOL. What would the DSV Barina offer in souped up version - airbags and ESP!
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November 1st, 2007 at 1:23 pm
the barina would offer front wheel stands to raise the drive wheels off the ground so holden can claim it does 0-100 in 4 secs!!!!! ha ha ha ha
i can see it spinning on the stands now he he he he
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November 1st, 2007 at 1:32 pm
I thought HSV ‘don’t do korean cars’?
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November 1st, 2007 at 1:39 pm
HOLDENWOO = 2 crap cars for the price of 1
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November 1st, 2007 at 2:18 pm
Dont be so hard on the captiva, yes its a daewoo HOWEVER it is actually the first car to be built since GM took over the company, and its actually a pretty good car. I dont mean pretty good for a korean car, i mean pretty good full stop! I’ve driven both a petrol and diesel one and they are seriously pretty good.
But anyway a HSV version? Frankly i think the FPV territory is rubbish and a HSV captiva would be equally rubbish
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November 1st, 2007 at 2:31 pm
I think a HSV Captiva would be a good idea. HSV wouldn’t make a HSV Barina or Epica, apparently they are more interested in importing the Corsa VXR and the new Vectra VXR due next year.
Paul I wouldn’t critcise HSV, atleast they have more sense then to try and put 240kw through front wheels.
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November 1st, 2007 at 3:05 pm
Yeah they have enough sense to use oil guzzling… piston slapping…. pushrod engines. TRDs first try… HSV 20 tries later still havent learnt.
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November 1st, 2007 at 3:12 pm
‘Holdenwoo’/Fords suck/Toy-mota/e-jedi keyboard warrior comments are getting tired and boring. Yes, good for you, you hate a certain carmaker/model/etc, needless repetition is just spam, pure and simple.
We need that forum so this crap can be put on there.
As for this HSV Captiva, probably not a good idea. HSV has a reputation for performance cars, and I doubt this segment will slide into that. Even the FPV Territory is very niche.
Toyota Paul, I’m yet to see anything from Toyota Australia come even close to the HSV’s. In any department. When they make a rear wheel drive performance sedan like they should have originally, maybe I’ll agree.
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November 1st, 2007 at 3:22 pm
They havent tried to come close with Toyota… what you must be unaware of is LEXUS.
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November 1st, 2007 at 3:26 pm
Sure, when the F-Sports series eventually come here and retail for the same or less than the HSV’s, and outperform them.
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November 1st, 2007 at 3:58 pm
I’ll buy one if they were that cheap, as they are far more superior to any HSV. But they’re not in the price rage and are aimed at the luxo performance market.
Remember people IS-F,M3,RS4,C63AMG.
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November 1st, 2007 at 4:27 pm
Sorry, but F6X for me all the way.
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November 1st, 2007 at 4:32 pm
Cheap and nasty, I have driven and sat in many Fords, Bommodores, Jap cars etc.. for the last 10 years and all I can say is Holdenwoo can’t build one decent automobile, I’m glad I was born with two eye’s and one head with a brain, these comments are not tiresome >>>> OMG its the damn bluddy truth… HSV should be a trademark (ICON), not downngraded to 10 year old Korean tehcnology, what a waste of effort and heritage from the company….If somebody gave me this car I would either burn it or drive the thing off a cliff…
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November 1st, 2007 at 4:42 pm
If Holdenwoo is such an “Australian icon”…NOT, why can’t they respond to the Australian Ford Territory with an Australian developed car, not rebaged Daewoos. I know that GMH are lifting an American crate motor in them, but it’s not from here at all.
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November 1st, 2007 at 4:51 pm
LOL Woz! I would burn it or drive it off a cliff too, if I got this cheap **** given to me!
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November 1st, 2007 at 8:09 pm
I believe this that HSV only plan to mod the captiva maxx. That is the opel version of the vehicled (is not called a captiva in europe) and has a different front end but is also sold under the opel brand. If so that would be more acceptable for HSV to do as it isn’t as povo but I am quite sure it is still manufactured in Korea anyway. But how can HSV damage their good rep. if they never had one originally?
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November 1st, 2007 at 8:13 pm
Which HSV’s are Korean again?
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November 1st, 2007 at 9:14 pm
ahh woz, you just admited that you havent driven many of these cars, and i take it you havent driven a captiva, yet somehow you automatically know its rubbish.. erm… why? Just cos its built in korea by daewoo, which is now a fully fledged GM department now
mate i HAVE driven one, and it drives very VERY well. As for 10 year old technology, its engine is the same alloytec engine in the commodore which, like it or not, was designed and first used less then 5 years ago, its certainly not 10 year old technology! the gearbox is also a relitively new design and the awd system is also new technology. It is also built of a BRAND NEW platform so again, not 10 year old technology.
stop being a badge warrior and dismissing cars based on the badge they run and actually do some RESEARCH on cars and actually TEST them and give them a go before forming strong opinions about them.
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November 1st, 2007 at 9:18 pm
toyota paul - even top brass toyota execs admit that HSV is what TRD aspires to be. If it wasnt for HSV, there wouldnt even be a TRD, or an FPV for that matter! HSV MADE the market, and they DOMINATE the market and it cant just be because of a bunch of bogans because last time i checked, their aint alot of bogans out there with 60k to spend on a car. At the carpark in the brisbane CBD where i park my car frequently i see alot of HSV parked there, and guess what! There isn’t many blokes in footy shorts and singlets getting out of them! They’re all in suits mate
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November 1st, 2007 at 9:23 pm
Richo, you have a point there, did you know Paul is a real idiot?
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November 2nd, 2007 at 10:13 am
I love the arguments these posts ignite..
People are far too quick to bag out brands/models. I am not a Holden fan! I acknowledge they have decent cars and also some that arent so great. I was selling them a year ago. Barina and Viva are very cheap tacky slow and most importantly .. unsafe. Many reviewers wont even rank them against their peers as they believe they shouldnt be on the road. Now thats not something that comes down to bias or brands but rather a real issue that makes me doubt the use of these korean cars under an australian marque..
The Captiva however i can say from experience is a very surprising package. They still dont feel european in their materials or build but they drive very well. The drivetrain is super smooth and the ride nice and supple without much roll (for a 4wd). I doubt it has serious off road potential and i believe the territory to be a better built better thought out car but the Captiva is hard to fault for what it will mostly be used for - shopping and picking up kids!
That said, HSV would be crazy to put their badge to one. The car may drive well now but with the amount of power that would be needed to make it a serious contender with the f6 i think that the car is underengineered to cope. Territory is a much stronger car and has the right engine to start from.. Hsv would spend huge money to get this car to be even approaching quick and they will never get it back, will be like the astra of the 90s….
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November 2nd, 2007 at 10:50 am
I agree scott, hsv would be mad to ruin there image with
a korean peace of crap 4wd!!! it could and would never have
a muscle or performance car image,,I agree as a mums taxi
its probably ok but thats it… I dont think all hsv’s
need to be v8 muscle cars because the hsv astra vxr is a
great little performance car!!! but holden has done anough
damage to there reputation with there korean crap cars,,
lets hope hsv doesnt do the same!!!!
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November 2nd, 2007 at 11:22 am
Chris, you say you agree with scott, who was argueing that the captiva is a very good soft roader but it would simply cost too much to make it a decent performance car and is therefore not worth it. But then you say yeah i agree that its a cheap peice of crap korean 4wd! Which is the complete opposite to what Scott was saying! Do you actually read posts before you decide to agree or dissagree with them? Or do you just enjoy looking foolish?
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November 2nd, 2007 at 11:43 am
Richo you got a link to support this? Ive never seen them say that… if they did, I think you may have take it out of context in that they want to be in the sales position as HSV not sell the same inferior vehicles.
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November 2nd, 2007 at 12:28 pm
All you guys that are driving the Captiva off the cliff… make sure you jump out before the edge!
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November 2nd, 2007 at 12:35 pm
The Captiva drives itself off the cliff, the fact that its Korean is one major factor (Ironically my anti-spam word was Daewoo).
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November 2nd, 2007 at 1:59 pm
Well sorry for being honest, I probably haven’t driven a Craptiva and I hope I don’t (waste of my time) the engine may be Australian but the body is still import Daewooean, if you like things slapped together with different platforms including the USA eg..(Zeta Winstorm), HAPPY DAY’s for you, if GM have bought the bankrupt company why keep the friggen woo name, I guess It is like us buying CHINA products everyday without even knowing, have you recently looked around your house lately MADE IN CHINA everywhere.
The Holdenwoo versions of Captiva is nothing special, very soft from all angles compared to the more dynamic Territory, HSV will destroy part of thier image dropping even one engine under that Korean Craptiva bonnet.
Yes I did know about the release of the captiva about five years ago, but from what I have read as a whole Daewoo cut many corners with manufacturing, so in the end can you tell me exactly who Daewoo is as a conglomerate when it comes to developing new technology within the car industry, Refinement is a big word for QA standards rebadging other makes is a nightmare… Practicing to preach is harder than walk the talk….. Richo…..
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November 2nd, 2007 at 2:37 pm
well actually if you watch the ads it is actually the driver that gets out of the captiva at the top of the building and HE jumps off for being so stupid to buy one ha ha ha
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November 2nd, 2007 at 2:38 pm
“Probably” haven’t driven the car? Either you have or you haven’t, Woz.
How can you judge a car you have never driven? Talk about one-eyed!
So what is it? You just hate Holden, or just hate Korean cars?
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November 2nd, 2007 at 2:43 pm
See Woz you just showed your ignorance. Daewoo ISNT the same company it was before GM owned it. It is now a fully fledged member of the GM family, only the name “Daewoo” survives, all of the internal structures are different. The engineering and design departments are now run by former holden personel who have been transfered within the GM network to Daewoo to assist with the Daewoo assimilation into the GM family. The guy running the design department now is the same guy who designed the monaro and had a major hand in the VE commodore before moving to korea.
The manufacturing side of the business is also completely changed as GM pumped hundreds of millions into bringing their manufacturing infrastructure up to scratch, as well as building some brand new stuff along the way.
So who is Daewoo you ask? THEIR GM! The very exact same as Holden, Chevy, Cadillac, Vauxhall, Opel, Saab, Pontiac, etc. They are nothing more then a sub-unit of GM now, they bare no resembelance to the old daewoo, as i said only the name carry’s over, and even then it only carry’s over in Korea where the name is actually mildly respected, everywhere else in the world the name has been removed, hence why theres no daewoos in australia anymore
The captiva is exactly the same as any other GM product, it was built by GENERAL MOTORS, not daewoo, daewoo is just the name on the outside of the building. the only reason the other products holden imports from korea arent up to scratch, such as the barina, epica and viva, is because these designs are cars which where designed by the OLD daewoo before GM took it over, theres only so much you can do with a dud design. But the captiva is completely new and built by GM, just as the next generation barina, epica and viva will be, and all of those cars by the way will be built of opel platforms from europe, and they will be much much much better then the current offerings and WILL actually be up to scratch with the rest of the market
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November 2nd, 2007 at 2:47 pm
see woz in the last line of your last post you infered that holden is re-badging other companies stuff. Just shows you dont know what you are talking about, they aren’t rebadging anything! It’s GM designing a car and then selling it in different counties under a different name. Its the same as how the astra is a holden in australia, a vauxhall in england and an open in germany.
This isnt a car built by daewoo then sold to holden, this is a car built by GM and sold under different names in different countries, and if you cant grasp that very obvious difference then you have no place talking about the motoring industry
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November 2nd, 2007 at 2:53 pm
I’m not one eyed like some, after driving some other so called Holdenwoo’s it has put me off for life so why should I drive it, if rebadging cars is a broken cause, why the **** Holden GM keep selling them, a little sense is what you need to give me with a reasonable answer, did I say I hated Holden, dislike yes, especially when you incorporate a Daewoo in the mix…….. DAEWOOS ARE ALL THE SAME ImportJap, CRAP… CRAP… CRAP…
You must be in love with them HAPPY DAY’S >>> probably.
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November 2nd, 2007 at 3:00 pm
Since you can’t give me a straight answer without degrading to trolling and insults, I’ll assume from your post you just hate Korean cars, probably from bad experiences along the way.
Still, you clearly haven’t driven the car, so your opinion, which is largely a boring reptition of “holdenwoo”, which reflects badly on you. I’ve had bad experiences with Ford (2000 model Festiva, a Korean car), but even I know that Ford make some good cars, and not all Korean cars are crap.
The Captiva isn’t a Lanos, not by a long shot. Go drive the car, I think you’ll revise your opinion.
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November 2nd, 2007 at 3:09 pm
WOZ NEVER INSULT THE QUALITY JAPANESE BUILT VEHICLES
EVER AGAIN!! THE KOREAN PIECE OF CRAP REBADGED DAEWOOS
CAN ONLY DREAM OF BEING IN THE SAME CATEGORY OF JAPANESE
ENGINEERED AND BUILT CARS,, AKA SUBARU,SOME HONDAS,MAZDA..
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November 2nd, 2007 at 3:12 pm
Man if you know so much about your special Daewoo made Gm Holden, Captiva, Winstorm, SX3, BLA BLA you should write a book or move over to korea where your services would be more operational and appreciated, for me on the other hand I don’t give a $%#@ about something that has been artificially generated in someone’s backyard, indirectly made to Australian spec even where quality or refinement may not be an issue,
Ignorance is bliss when certain facts that maybe true but really deep down the last few chapters in your book summerize the pure arrogance of knowing the Captiva is still halve MADE IN KOREA…..
Craptiva means alot to pity..
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November 2nd, 2007 at 3:12 pm
i have driven the captivas and yes they are smooth and
reasonably comfortable but the plastics are cheap,build
quality average,crash safety crap!suspension woafull on
rough roads or anything resembling a tight corner,just
cheap korean crap..
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November 2nd, 2007 at 3:15 pm
I think you read the post wrong Chris, I own a Japan made car (Suzuki) and know Quality when I see it…
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November 2nd, 2007 at 3:33 pm
Woz Says: Ignorance is bliss
your walking proof of that aren’t you buddy! captiva is crap because its made in korea, japanese cars FTW! WOOOO! So short minded that you can’t even remember 20 years ago when japanese made cars where considered absolute rubbish in the same way that korean cars are now.. how times can change for the japanese motor industry, but apparently not for the korean? i see….
Chriss Parr - the crash safety of some korean cars are indeed crap as you say, the barina springs imediately to mind, however the captiva actually rates 4 stars. Not perfect i would agree, but certainly a very long way from crap. RESEARCH people.. it really does help when you try and be a badge warrior! otherwise you just look silly
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November 2nd, 2007 at 3:35 pm
oh and woz, mate, you do realise that alot of suzuki’s arent actually made in japan, some are yes, but a great deal of them are also made in certain other asian countries… yes yes i know where… should i say? no maybe he should find out for himself… NOOOOOOO i cant help myself! SOME SUZUKI’S ARE MADE IN KOREA!!! oops did i say that? sorry bout that
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November 2nd, 2007 at 3:38 pm
Richo still waiting for this quote that Toyota wants to be like FPV and HSV… hot air?
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November 2nd, 2007 at 3:48 pm
It’s bliss cause I have to answer to half wits who think Korean cars are fantastic. I respect Hyundai but Kia and Daewoo won’t lift the bar.
When things are cheap you buy a bargain is my point you get what you pay for. GM thinks they can source a cheap product then magically turn it into gold hahaha SLOGAN >> Over Charging For Quick Profit’s, get the drift Richo, no point defending broken ego’s..
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November 2nd, 2007 at 4:02 pm
LOOK AT THIS HUNK OF JUNK!!
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November 2nd, 2007 at 4:03 pm
I know mine is made in Japan because the manufacturer’s plate say’s so, at least I can choose where Suzuki is made not like your Daewoo’s. GM still has a 3% share in the company but I won’t cry about that. Suzuki was smart when GM offered the sell off, now the company is mostly free of dictatorship… Suzuki’s are mainly built in japan and soon large scale in India, but who care’s, it has estabished very large respected roots and their racing heritage is much loved by million’s if you want to argue about this company you are in for a long night
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November 2nd, 2007 at 4:29 pm
Richo, Suzuki have an equity affiliation with GM Daewoo (GMDAT) but the stance is frail after GM asset loss, they had a couple of models sourced from Korea for the American market but I don’t think any manufacturing is executed from there, you may need to give more facts on that one.. I think your falling apart from the seams, pick up the pieces and mix up some araldite……
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November 2nd, 2007 at 4:36 pm
Woz i’m no longer going to respond to you because its impossible because your argument is a constantly evolving thing that seemingly changes easily to suit your current stance. First you say all cars from korea are crap, now its only the ones made at daewoo plants… so your whole argument that daewoos are bad because their korean is gone and now its just daewoos are bad because they’re daewoos? I see, end of discussion with you, bye bye
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November 2nd, 2007 at 4:43 pm
Toyota Paul on the other hand, you make sense, i just dont agree with you alot of the time! But thats cool, thats cars my friend! So i shall continue to address you.
Toyota execs have stated on numerous occasions that HSV is the benchmark in this country for boutique performance car brands, which is no surprise really considering for a long time they where the ONLY manufacturer in the segment! FPV has since come along but HSV still absolutely dominate FPV in the sales charts and therefore still remain the benchmark, thats simply the way it is.
Now i NEVER said TRD wants to build the SAME products as HSV. That would be silly, for a start toyota dont build commodores to base their vehicles off! Well… not for recently anyway! All i said is that the brand HSV, not the products but the BRAND of HSV, is at the level which toyota hope for TRD to one day be at, that meaning they wish for TRD to one day be the leading name in performance cars in this country.
Now i’m sure i dont need to go through all my wheels and motor magazines to find specific quotes of this because i’m sure you will agree that this is very obviously the case. Why else would toyota launch a brand called TRD on the back of a motorsport program (ala HSV which started out of a little motorsport program called the holden racing team) and then use this brand of TRD to modify family cars to turn them into performance cars, ie what HSV does with turning commodores into clubsports etc. You havve to ask why would they adpot a model so STRIKINGLY similar to that of HSV if they didnt want to muscle in on the segment that HSV currently occupies? The answer to that again is obvious, its because they DO want to move in on the same territory as HSV currently occupies.
Its like when FPV first came out, everyone knew they where going to target HSV and that they where going to produce products that will challenge HSV, but the FPV people ranted about “we are not targeting HSV, rather giving people an alternative to HSV” which is basically code for we are targeting HSV but we dont want to admit that HSV is a success story so hence we wont admit that we are targeting them. And thats exactly the same as what TRD are doing
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November 2nd, 2007 at 4:51 pm
So you lose, oh well, no arguement is good enough if there is no substance or fact, judged by peer’s action’s speek louder than your words…
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November 12th, 2007 at 7:25 pm
what they could do is pull out the engine and drop in a small block V8 [the cadillac northstar quad cam would do fine] the AWD system from the Cross 8. then add the usual HSV goodies such as Cross Drilled Ventilated Brakes; MRC Suspension; optional supercharger oh and a bodykit then call it the CaptiV8D [D for Dumb Idea].
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December 9th, 2007 at 9:25 am
The hasnt been one korean sourced HSV made so why start now and ruin the reputation of HSV!
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May 4th, 2008 at 6:22 pm
Ive got a picture of a HSV Captiva and it looks quite good but i cant give you the hyperlink to website www.cgiautomotive were i did get it off in the first place because they have got rid of it for some reason. But speaking of it the HSV Captiva looks good but it may ruin HSV like i said. The next HSV, HSV could do that would be fine would be a version of the Opel Corsa OPC or a HSV Vecrta i guess.
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May 4th, 2008 at 6:23 pm
^sorry its spelt www.cgiautomotive.com
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