No engine temperature guage in the instrument cluster??
You can probably view it in the digital display. A lot of cars these days are removing the needle and opting for the digital way.
There is a photo of the digital display – there is only fuel, not temperature. Cars that have temperature read-outs are never part of a trip computer or alternate function, they are always either permanently displayed in some form or another, or not at all.
Hmmm…no needle visible on the fuel gauge, either.
There’s probably a blue light that comes on when the engines cold – and a red one when it overheats. Just like the Mazda2?
DUH! The gauge IS part of the display. Guilty as charged.
In your comment for minus is 95RON fuel. I do not see as minus. I got a Honda Jazz 2009 and I always put PULP98 in my car. In this country Honda recommends 91 but same car same engine, same power and same comp ratio in Germany is 95. With 98 car goes better use less fuel and if you check BP website engine is cleaner inside. My fuel economy since new and I am driving in city no highway 7.19L/100km. I tried for 3 months with 91 and it went to 7.55L/100km.
Thats only 0.36L/100km difference though… Is it worth it? I drove my 1.5L Jazz forth and back from Melbourne to Moe on 91, it yielded 5.9L/100km. its mainly highway kms anyway=)
The Polo is rated as 4.7 l/100km for “extra urban” driving.
Last year I was driving on Great Ocean road to Port Campbell and my Jazz 1.3 auto fuel economy was 5.26L/100km.
In my 06 Hyundai Getz 3 door manual, all city driving:
- Shell E10 91 – 9-10l/100km
- Caltex 95 Vortex – 6.5l/100km
- Shell V-Power 98 – current tank, around 6l/100km.
Anyone have any troubles with V-Power? It is a bit rough around 1000-2000rpm and noticeable power loss when compared to 91 and 95. No noticeable power increase when comparing 91 and 95.
Any turbo engine will require 95-98 octane fuel. At least you get the benefit of a punchy midrange, unlike silly naturally aspirated engines from Proton and some Euro brands that also require premium. I’m quite impressed sitting in this car when I had my Golf GTI in for service.
Parents are currently choosing between the Polo 77TSi and the Fiesta Zetec . . . it’s hard trying to convince them that the Fiesta will look extremely out-dated in a few years and that the engine, though sprightly and fun, isn’t as good as the Polo’s. The price for the Fiesta is too tempting for them I think . . . ($20,500 drive-away – 5door manual).
Great Review anyway, CA! Have to make Dad read it, haha!
There is no denying that this latest polo is a top notch car and I agree on the potential for the Fiesta to date more rapidly. The one “BIIIIIIIIIIG” concern I have with the polo is VW’s notoriously bad reliability issues.
On the other hand the Fiesta is a bit on the girly side, but I think I’d push past that fact for a potentially more reliable (read far less costly) car. I’m not a ford fan by any means but the fiesta is reortedly 8/10′s as good as this car anyway so for most punters it is more than up to the task.
I’d go the Ford or make sure the Polo is only a 35 month proposition and whisk it off just as the warranty expires. There are far too many surveys showing VW at the bottom of the list for reliability to ignore and it’s a shame because when they are running they are a superb drive. The Jetta we had last year (rental) was brilliant but we were able to give it back.
I have to agree on the issue of reliability… I have had 2 Golfs and I know all too well the constant issues and expense required to keep them on the road. It is a shame as the car feels expensive, drives well and has cutting edge drivetrain technology. The Polo has a turbo and a DSG (if you go for an auto)… heaps of complexity that can and does go wrong that takes $$$$$$ to fix. The current Golf 118 TSI had issues resulting in some engines becoming hand grenades, DGS boxes having failed mechatronics units, plus the usual issues with failed lamda sensors, etc.
VW, you need to look at how Toyota does things and improve your reliability… if this happens I have no doubt that VW will be a global #1 brand as their product is brilliant in most other departments.
That argument is getting a bit old now. Late model VW’s have put the reliability issue to rest.
I sincerely hope the VW have sorted out the reliability issues, otherwise their product is second to none. Golf V was worse that Golf IV for reliability, so Golf VI must have improved. In any case the future JD Power ratings should show this improvement.
I wonder if the 12 million Toyotas recalled will be included in the next JD Powers (not to mention the next round of Toyota recalls)?
On the point of VW, I have bought new 1 Transporter T4 (220,000KM) 1 Golf IV (60,000KM) and now my Passat 4Motion (75,000KM) and have had little problem with any of them … just lucky I guess. BTW – a friend bought my Golf, it now has over 100,000KM still with no problem and an acquaintance bought my T4 and put a further 3000,000KM on it before selling it – the only issue was a new clutch.
I agree with Jabba here.
When something does go wrong with a VW outside of warranty they can be costly to be fixed, I know this having been a previous owner of a Golf that although was a great car consistently had problems over the years. Ended up getting rid of it in the end because I didnt want the headache or worry of what was going to need replacing next.
The Fiesta on the other hand would be relatively cheap to repair and I disagree with the idea that it will look dated quickly. The next model Fiesta due here next year follows the same design principles as does the next Focus, the new Kuga, the next Mondeo for 2012/2013…this Kinetic design idea of Ford’s will be around a while.
Also I had the pleasure of driving one of the new Fiesta’s for a week and it was a great car, lots of fun to drive, heaps of extras including bluetooth and all of this one the model below the Zetec (LX maybe I think it was called?). Would definately be my pick over the Polo.
I’d only pick the Fiesta if your parents are willing to buy a manual. The DSG/TSI/TDI combinations in the Polo will eat the Fiesta’s Auto/1.4 alive in terms of acceleration and refinement.
From the pics the interior looks quite bland and lacks quality. Its not any better than the “boring” Toyota everyone on this site seems to hate. Maybe it looks better when you have the lights on at night?
Btw, I recently got 2 new front tyres. Its Silverstone and the max pressure printed on the tyre says 44psi. Its obviously too flat when i pump the usual 32psi into it. whats the best pressure for it, anyone knows?
Vee Dubs can play crafty tricks on you, Mythfrances. If you just look at the pictures or peer in from out, you’re entirely forgiven in thinking it’s a bit plain and austere. If you sit in one, twist a dial or two and do the same with the buttons, you’ll be saying, ‘Aha, got it’.
Better still, drive one.
If you are serious about your tyre question, then check the tyre placard fixed to your vehicle. That recommends the tyre pressure. Some vehicle placards recommend different pressures for ‘normal’ loads or ‘full loads’ (or similar) and some specify differences in ‘normal’ or ‘highway’ driving. Just because your tyres say they can be inflated to a certain level, doesn’t mean they have to be.
Depending on the vehicle and useage, 44psi could result in interesting wear rates and shortened tyre life.
I am still serious about my tyre question. Thanks for the reply.
The placard says to pump it to 32psi. But 32 psi for the silverstone I put on is just way way way too soft… I can literally feel the tyres flattening out and “rubbing” the road when I drive. And from the outside it just looks so flat too. Any chance 36 psi for this tyre is ok?
36psi will be fine.I always run my tyres at 38 psi.
Good little car, just got to put up with a slight reduction of reliability if buying, but hey who wouldn’t if it’s this good compared to competition.
I’m sure you’ll be happy to rethink your statement when your car breaks down somewhere between Melbourne and Sydney.
New VW cars are very reliable. Fair call if you’re speaking about older models, but I drive a 2006 Golf with 105,000 km on the clock and it still runs like new and I’ve have never had any problems with it. And from everything I’ve read, the new generation (2005-) gets great marks for reliability.
Good to hear. They definitely are pretty reliable but if something does go wrong and it’s not covered under warranty it will cost way more to fix than a Ford or Jap competitor.
Went to get a power steering hose from the Ford dealer for dad’s xr6 – 12 inches long – $220 ad that’s the part only, so don’t complain about Volkswagen.
Wow, up up to -7 already, people in Australia must put reliability above everything else – how myopic. Well if you have to drive so much because you live so far away from destinations and don’t live near any good public transport network then hey, the Japs will help fulfil your transport emissions nicely.
I agree that the car looks a little dated, but I do believe it will do well on the Australian market due to the diesel. Lets hope for VW its name generates sales.
Disagree about the looks. I think they’ve made a smart move with the styling. It’s contemporary but won’t date quickly. Compare this to the ‘trendier’ fiesta – sure the ford looks pretty sharp now but give it a few years and it will be looking dated (see: honda crx, ford lynx). This isn’t trendy, it’s just a good looking car with plenty of style longevity.
Really good review Karl, I totally agree with the styling comments. I’m glad VW has made this model more affordable, because it invites a new section of the market that would like a VW but just couldn’t afford the extra.
I’m so surprised at how affordable the Polo is. $20k for this kind of technology opens it up to the first-time market! Unfortunately the most interesting 77TSI would be restricted for P-platers.
Sorry kids, back to your VN commodores and excels!
You can now actually apply for special exemptions on low blow Turbos, which means the government has finally seen some sense.
This is the second smartest thing the government has ever done! Number one is to flick that legislation off altogether (for production-standard cars atleast).
I like the front end styling. Apart from the extra gear ratio and badge what makes this car better than a Fiesta Zetec manual? The Ford looks great, handles fabulous, cheaper to insure + service, can take 91 ULP and you don’t have to worry about turbo rebuilds etc. The Polo may have a competitive purchase price + euro badge but what about total cost of ownership? This is an economy box after all – admittedly a nice one at that. Does it really handle as well or better than the Zetec?
Apparently not, as few cars do, it seems. The current WHALES magazine has a comparison between Polo, Fiesta and 2. The win narrowly went to the Polo on account of its value, finish, drivetrain and very good handling. But for ENTERTAINING handling, Fiesta’s the one.
Unfortunately the reviewer failed to mention what a brilliant touring car the Polo is.
2000rpm at 100k cruising speed, versus the Fiesta’s 3000rpm. That 3000rpm buzz box will surely get tiresome on a long trip.
The Fiesta has some excitement and youthful appeal to it, like an exciting one night stand.
The Polo has an air of class about it – you’d be happy to take it home to meet the parents..and it will still feel great years down the track.
The Polo website says it is laser welded…are there other small cars that are laser welded too?
How does the DSG version compare against the 6-speed manual transmission? Does the Polo also have the same DSG issues of the Golf?
which DSG in the Golf are you talking about – the wet clutch 6sp or the dry clutch 7sp? The Polo uses the dry clutch one, I’m not aware of issues with it. AFAIK the 7sp did over 2 million km in testing.
I bought a 5 door petrol manual Polo a few months back and I’m absolutely in love with it. I have to say that I nearly bought a petrol manual Fiesta because the drive was fantastic and the cost was more appealing short and long-term… but I’ll admit the interior ‘styling’ made me want to puke. On the comfort side, the seats are super comfortable in the Polo if you normally get lower back pain during a long drive and it also doesn’t feel like a small car (for someone who is 6ft tall).
I will be picking up a new TDI DSG in June. Like most I also looked at the Fiesta but felt that this was marketed at the P platers and could be another Suzuki Swift type of car. The Polo although plain has a touch of class and this will assist with resale down the track. I hope the diesel lives up to it’s expectation as we are seeing more arrive in Australia. BTW, VW Scirrocco arrives next year!!!
I bought a new 1.4 litre Petrol DSG Trendline in late June 2010. The DSG has given me MAJOR OVERHEATING PROBLEMS/ VW AUSTRALIA doesn’t want to know about it. The Dealer has bent over backwards to try and solve MULTIPLE-PROBLEMS. It would appear that VW Australia hasn’t a Bloody Clue. Also the SILENCE from VW Australia is ABSOLUTELY DEAFENING I
have asked for a TOTAL REFUND and a car THAT WORKS PROPERLY, but, yes, the SILENCE has been ABSOLUTELY DEAFENING from VW AUSTRALIA
We have had our Polo 77TSI Comfortline DSG for a year now and still every time i drive it i am amazed of how far the light class have come. It is amzingly refined on the high way with only 2000 rpms at 100 kph. The Mazda 2 and Fiesta cant come close to the polo for quality or refinement in town or the highway were the 2 and Fiesta are loud and reving over 3000 rpms at 100 kph. I am happy i chose the polo over the fiesta
I recently tested it and I love it. The engine, the gearbox, the quality finish, etc. My only concern is the backseat space which is so cramped. Of course VW won’t make it bigger because then it will become a Golf!