Holden Commodore VE2 SS V-Series and Interior Revealed

By Paul Maric | July 13th, 2010

Following on from our recent images of the Commodore Berlina VE2 and Commodore Omega VE2, we are pleased to reveal the Commodore VE2 SS V-Series, in addition to the interior it will feature.

In addition to tucked in headlights similar to those of the Berlina and Omega, the SS V-Series receives a revised halogen projector headlight cluster. Our inside spy suggests that sport variants will have the option of featuring tinted headlight and tail-light clusters, adding to the sporty feel.

Computer generated image by Joshua Byrnes.

Revised fog lamp clusters and a revised front bumper bar will give the SS Commodore a rejuvenated feel. Revisions to the rear end are less visible, with minor changes to the spoiler structure, now with a greater rake angle. The other major change is a small boot-lip spoiler, which will be fitted across the range.

Inside the cabin, the Commodore VE Series 2 will receive a major revision to the centre cluster. A revised screen will sit higher up and will feature full iPod and iPhone integration (similar to the FG Falcon), in addition to a higher resolution touch-screen.

Siemens VDO is responsible for the current integrated satellite navigation console in the VE Commodore and has been tasked with the Commodore Series 2 integrated console.

Computer generated image by Joshua Byrnes.

At a press conference earlier in the year, Siemens VDO CEO, Zoran Angelkovski told CarAdvice that Siemens VDO had signed a deal with Holden that would see the German manufacturer supply the new touch screen to Holden from June.

Mr Angelkovski told CarAdvice that Siemens VDO had designed the new system to allow Holden to utilise some features currently seen in European vehicles. He also said that there will be three grades of complexity ranging from Omega to Caprice, each featuring touch-screen capability.

In addition to E85 capability on all its V6 engines, Holden is like to up the power output of the SS and SS V-Series, giving them a better chance against Ford’s soon to be supercharged XR8. Power output is expected to rise to around 290kW, with Active Fuel Management (AFM) remaining available across the V8 range.

A new Gen V V8 engine will join the Commodore range once it becomes available in the USA, in around two years time.

What are your thoughts on the new SS Commodore design? Is it aggressive enough? What about the new interior, does it suit the Commodore?

Baddass

I like a big wing on a Commodore. I mean, it looks more sporty than a bootlip spoiler. And when you say ‘fitted across the range’, does that mean the Omega and Berlina get them as well? Because that would make it pretty stupid if the sport model’s spoiler can be had on the base model. It didn’t work on the W427, and I dare say it won’t work here.

Steve

This sort of update would have sent the Australian buying public into a buying frenzy ten years ago, oh how times have changed.

2/10 The Holden Marketing Team will be working overtime pushing this @#$% uphill.

Botswanky

How very true, the world is now full of people who tell you the commodore is “to large-to thirsty”, best we buy a VW Golf. The irony is these same people would buy a Porsche Cayenne or its equivalent in a heart beat, given they had the funds. The truth of the matter is the Holden commodore is a damn fine sedan. Therein lies the problem, sedans are not fashionable in our day & age.

Matthew

The extra lashings of red around the cabin livens things up. The circular air vents look very average and looks like they just threw them in there without much thought. All in all its not a bad effort just a bit ‘meh’.

MJ

i completely agree. The vents look like a cheap rip off from the new xj. theres also way to much plastic around the hazard light switch, wouldnt it make more sense to bring the climate control up into the line of sight?
They really need to have some sort of theme, its just a whole bunch of differently styles wrapped together
joe

I agree the red looks ok, but we just have to wait and see how it looks in the flesh.

ox

What a waste of a great opportunity to add styling elements from the brilliant coupe 60 concept. I don’t think it looks aggressive enough.

Golfschwein

It’s best to leave the Coupe 60 be, I reckon. Although we didn’t see it until much later, it was done way back in 2004
scatman

Yes it does need to bee Boganised a bit more, maybe factory Bundy stickers are in order

birdie

LOL too right

nickdl

That gap between the screen and the air-con controls looks shoddy IMO. The circular air vents dont help either. Maybe the Calais will have something there.

Overall they’ve just the hazard light switch with the screen and some new air vents. Yes the red livens things up a bit but I’m sure it’ll look very tacky in the real world and age even worse.

Hopefully Holden put some nice colours or trims in the interior to make it less bland. The Falcon interior is still a million times better anyway.

nickdl

Sorry should read “overall they’ve just swapped the hazard light switch with the new screen…”
Roman

Agree that those circular vents just don’t look right.

Toxic-horse

Bogan, pushrods. Dinosaw , interior , daewoo , let’s see if we can have some comments with none of these words because we have read it all before

Devil’s Advocate

Sounds fair enough Toxic. However I thought you would have mentioned Dinosaur as well as that is a common word used when people want to take the “mickey” out of Commodores! I may have to go to Bunnings to find out what a “Dinosaw” is exactly though. Does it have something to do with chopping up a classic Ferrari???!!! TVFPIC

(LOL-anti spam = Ferrari!)
Euro Guy

A car for Bogans with an interior that wouldn’t be out of place in a cheap brothel. Oh, and it has pushrods too.

These cars would make great taxis ….. oh, that’s right. They already are!

David

Euro Guy, you obviously have experience with cheap brothels. Sorry, but aligning yourself with so-called classy imported cars doesn’t make you any more classy.

T

Im a FORD man, i HATE commodores and their drivers more than anything i can think of.

BUT nothing wrong with pushrods, OR chevs engine in these commodores.

fords Boss engine ( no pushrods ), cant seem to match the pushrodded chev anywhere other than the noise they make! damn those fords sound HORN!

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=668475019 Jake Williams

I find the new interior somewhat strange…the new parts don’t really fit in with the rest of the design. I think it looks somewhat tacked on. As for the exterior, where the are the exterior mirror indicators? Otherwise it’s typical Commodore…hopefully it gets split-fold rear seats .
Nobody

The current exterior looks great and I had huge expectations from the interior overhaul. Hope at-least the speedometer back round lighting has changed and not the green/amber like in the early 1990′s. Surely Thumbs down for me.
noj

It looks so cheap and nasty,but we have come to expect that from Holden
Betty Blue

That interior is ghastly, poor effort by holden.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1435885244 Yani Hendriawan

the origional looks better. those air vents in the centre console look kinda tacky

Cupid Stunt

Agreed. Tacky beyond belief. I’m off to buy a the spam word “ssangyong”.

joe

Those vents is what you’d expect to see in a 10 year old range rover, full on 4WD

wilson333

very nice dont know about the rims their not load enough i like the air vents they could have made the rest of the inerior abit less cheap looking

would’nt buy one cause then in 4 years another one will come out and make it look dated like every commodore ever made
wilson333

i ment loud lol
Gibbo

So its still a sea of black plastic. I really hope that the actual VEII interior looks better than this in the flesh, the circular air vents,and the massive piece of black plastic between the aircon controls and the screen do nothing for me. You’d think that they would move the screen slightly higher up and re-route the centre air vents to under the screen for a cleaner look.
The FG’s interterior, particually the dash layout and presentation is still miles ahead of this.
Damian

Holden took a big step up with the original VE interior. Now, it has taken ten steps backwards with the VE2 interior, which looks like a rushed overnight job.

Those round airvents are an absolute disaster, and clash with the rest of the interior’s rather conservative lines. The relocation of the interior screen is a big improvement over the original VE, but it’s still not eye level like the FG Falcon, nor does it look as well integrated as the Ford. The blank section between the screen and the climate controls screams lack of effort, and the dodgy handbrake still remains.
Damian

Further to my previous post, it seems Holden is still totally apathetic to making tangible improvements to its vehicles. No day time running lights, no xenon headlights, no turbo-diesel – only E85 compatibility, which is great ON PAPER, but not so good considering its lack of availability and relatively expensive pump price (especially considering E85 is classified as a “rubbish fuel”).
orrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Mate looks terrible what have Holden done….. there will be a update soon after this hash up. Wonder if Holden suppoerts will still blindly but this ugly mess. Guess VE 1 will sell like hot cakes once people see this shocker

Toxic shock

Think you mean buy not but LOL

Cupid Stunt

think he meant ‘supporters’ as well. Ooohh don’t you hate keyboards.

joe

Hey guys, the car looks good in the flesh as Im told from a few people who have seen it in the flesh.

Lets just wait and see.

Mungyz

Guys, chillax. It’s just a rendering, not the real thing. I’ll reserve my comment until I see proper photos, not dodgy speculative sketches.
Nick K

Snooze… Sorry I fell asleep looking at it.
Shak

i was hoping for much more from the SS-V, but judging by the real spy shots from a couple of days ago, didnt look as if they had any changes as significant as this. And the actual interior of the new Commodore has been snapped by the Age, and looks quiet different to this.
axe

someones run out of money(ie: tight budget).Pathetic. Im glad we have the FG to make Australians proud. Who else mounts power window switches in the centre about 1cm from the cup holder. Be careful don’t spill your coffee…..

zahmad

That would be Toyota Australia with its 1997 Camry!

Shak

One more thing. For everyone who thinks this is what the commodore will look like, you are wrong. These are CGI’s of what the Artist thinks the cars from last week may look like. I guarantee you Holden will change things differently to this.
Familt Guy

Maybe I’m just not enough of a fan boy, but could you put up a pic of the current interior for comparison.

I looked on the Holden site but they can’t even get a website to work at the moment.

Byron

Yeh website is weird, somethings up. Perhaps changing for VE Series II

darren

WOW they made an aggressive looking SS Commodore look more like a plain-Jane VE commodore. BIG STEP BACKWARDS. At least VE Series 1 should go up in value now !!

The interior looks stupid, again looks worse. I thought it was going to be a whole redesign inside, not just change the stereo.

Ford doesn’t even need to update the FG ans still looks miles better than this.

Rhubarb

FG’s interior, although not as utterly hideous as the euro Ford imports, is still a plsticfest eyesore full of confusing buttons.
This VE2 interior update looks clean and uncluttered.
The only thing that still needs fixing in VE is the handbrake.

Daniel D

And for all that, they didn’t replace that awful handbrake design. Something that was an ergonomic disaster from the first day they introduced it and has me shaking my head in disbelief every time I jump in a VE Commodore.

Here is a shocker, I think fixing that handbrake lever and spending the extra ten dollars a car to put the window switches on the appropriate door for left and right hand drive cars was more important, then mucking about with the rake on the rear spoiler.

Opportunity and sale lost from me if they don’t fix both by the time this car is in the showrooms.
http://www.facebook.com/Langrs Daniel Langford

what has holden been doing these past four years???, the VE was and still is a great looking car but it has aged fairly quickly, have to say the interiour looks a better improvement than the outside……..Hopefully it will look better in the flesh…
Pablo

By using the word ‘reveal’ in the opening paragraph, I was expecting an actual photo, not a cgi of a car parked on the footpath near a beach that may be similar to the upcoming Commodore update.
Ryan

People this isn’t a Holden picture it’s just Photoshop, it most likely won’t look like this at all.
Highplains

Yep agree with Pablo, it is what used to be called an artist impression, not a photo.

Wingman77

I think you need to read between the lines on these CA Holden ‘reveals’…..would suspect CA has or has seen official dealer/ publicity shots of actual cars but can’t publish….hence need to photoshop up pics. This close to launch, I suspect these pics are 99% accurate as there would be hundreds of people who have seen official pics or the cars themselves.

carguy

Unfortunatley its does look like this. Why dont GM hire some people who can design an interior properly? Cant see this as an improvement really, just a quick cheap and nasty minor change. What the hell is happening with those air vents? lol Obviously by the very minor changes on the VE2 there is a serious lack of development funds at the bankrupt GM. Obama would be crying if he saw his money wasted like this!!!!
lola

i like the new VE2, being a Ford man and always a Ford man, this new VE2 will be my next car because i would like to change and refresh my car repertoire, so far had 3 BA’s, 2 BF’s including a 315kW GT-E which somehow loses in every test from a stock VZII SS 6.0 on the road “just my personal experience” had a few V6 Commodores including a 195kW Calais that somehow seems to feel weaker than my old VCT AUIII XR6 4 cog auto. But anyway , i am thinking about this new VE2 and i think that i should get one when it gets out, not sure about power updates? some dude from holden told me that all 6.0L engines will make 300kW/561Nm stock across the range? is this a fact? beautiful car, but interior looks a little well different from VE, VE’s interior was always giving me headaches because i loved the original BA-BF interior and at the same time VE interior, ps: FG interior is a total rubbish IMHO! cheers

Radbloke

cool story bro

lola

i would suggest to people to take both Ford Falcon FG and new VE2 objectively, then take what they feel belongs to their heart, then make it your dream, go to the bank LOL and buy the car you like the most, then make it subjective, don’t listen to what others say, what works for you works for you. Sure my old 214000k XR6 VCT 172kW would beat a 195kW 2008 Calais every time and any time and my GT-E 315kW would always be 2 cars behind a 4 speed 6.0L VZII SS that had 125000km and a Falcon only 45000km, but that is just science in objective empirical world, i think that the VE2 looks great along with its new, fresh cool interior!;)
Frenchie

Why didn’t they design the air vents as two retangular vents either side of the touch screen? Like the Cruze. It would kept in similar shape ewith the door trim vents.

Why is the hazzard button the largest button on the console? It screams push me!

http://www.facebook.com/jono2 Jonathan Hoang

LOL ahahhaah, so funny and true

rick

Cruze is ugly, weak and too heavy for its engines. I see some people totally lose their money for a really badly put together car that is meant to have a 3.0L V6 in it and not a 1.8L 18 year old Astra engine or a slow 2.0L noise factory diesel engine.

a remember a man looking to get a cruze cdx, was quite expensive at over 24 grand, he later decided to get a nice VYII Calais 5.7 for $15000, had saved $9999 and installed a nice HPC coated chrome full exhaust and extractors/headers on it, a car is a gem and looks better than Cruze , not bad for a 2004 VYII Calais.

nickdl

Not bad indeed, but how many other cars of the Cruze’s size are going to have a 3.0L V6? Obviously most of Australia disagrees with you because the Cruze is selling at 2500 per month. Most people wanting a small sedan would much prefer efficiency over performance.
Shak

Why the hell did he go from a Cruze to a V8 Commodore. that Sounds like a pile of crap to me. Of course the Cruze was going to look underpowered next to the Commodore. And i dont think any other car in the Cruze’s class has any larger than a 2.4 L4
scatman

You remember many men

Byron

Don’t believe thats the final product. Well reseve my judgement till the final product is revealed. Though exterior looks more striking the VE 1. GO HOLDEN!
Cupid Stunt

Sorry but the whole thing looks like a late 90′s euro Astra. Out of date tastes…but if you like that you could always pop up an buy one wearing our shell suit.
brahfit

hmm i can see all the hectics replacing those center air vents with ridiculous gauges…
prb

These changes aren’t enough to make VE1 obsolete, but will impact VE resale values. This means 2006-7-vintage Commodore SS will become even better value on the used-car market
don

yes the VE 2006-2007 will become a vintage equipment but it will be 30kW short and some 31Nm short according to so many non reliable sources.

Holden Cruze is a car rendered by television propaganda, people do not know what they are buying, nothing but a load of plastic, metal and inferior quality product that is under powered, needs to be reved hard in order to achieve some normal acceleration to avoid being hit in the traffic and is no different mechanically to an ordinary Astra 1999-2005 both spec wise and power/torque wise.

ps: the engine in the Cruze looks very ugly in its engine bay, its all black, parts and components are impossible to see, its a big flaw, i see people buy them and all i can hear is engine whining, noise and poor acceleration, i drove all models and I’d rather pick a 2.2L 2003 2nd hand astra instead of Cruze of course minus the fancy USB port, blue tooth and useless traction control button for a car that only puts 38kW at the front wheels for $25000 LMAO.

Why not get a Camry 3.0? or Aurion 3.5, oh wait they’re crap too, get a nice $9999 BF FALCON with 6 speed ZF, at least that thing puts a decent 143-144rwkw stock standard, or even better get a BA Fairmont Ghia 4.0 or 5.4L they put a decent 139kW and 168rwkW for like $7000-12000 LMAO.

Rhubarb

So everything on the road is crap except for older falcons?
Mikey_94

What might the fuel economy be on these “magnificent Falcons” from the stone age, don?

Douchebag

Dirt Diver

My old AU II XR6 VCT used to return 7.1L/100km on the highway and on the drive to work through reasonable traffic it wa around 10.3L/100km. I still miss it, it was agreat car.
So the old AU VCT motor had great fuel ecnomy, Mikey_94, you Douchebag.

don

by the way its not an L4 engine, technically its an I4 engine “inline four” wet sumped engine and its an ECOTEC, something that died long time ago in an oil burner VY Ecotec, it doesn’t even have a VVT, or VCT.

by the way what is quicker and more brisk? a VZII 6.0L Berlina or a 307-317kW HSV R8? , a VZII Berlina not only weighs 200-225kg less, its an old outdated 4 speed auto, with just 260kW/510Nm it sits right next to a 317kW 2tone HSV R8 or GTS. VE2 will weigh even more with extra equipment.

Mikey_94

There’s something new, called the internet… USE IT you idiot find out for yourself, and stop bagging the Cruze, which is a great value-for-money car with excellent credentials
BlackJesus

BS mate, i dont think HSV would make a newer better car just so a previous model would beat it, defeats the purpose of making it ‘better’. oh and by the way, Id like to see a VZ 6Litre berlina jump from 0-100 in 4 seconds… you make us all laugh!

Dirt Diver

I would like to see a current HSV (W427 excluded) do it in 4 seconds in an independent test. So far the only ones who have done it are HSV, no one else can replicate it. You make us all laugh

http://caradvice euroh8r

euroguy, tell your mates down at BMW to change there steering wheel which is older than a dinosaur…tell them to update there grille, which has been the same for 40 years…as for taxis, ve engines dont need replacing after 150,000 km, built to last in excess of 1 million kms…we also outsell your ‘machines’ 30 to 1.
your a typical arrogant ‘look at me’ euro car driver…
let me guess you dont drive your car faster than 60kmh?

Euroguy

“let me guess you dont drive your car faster than 60kmh?”

Actually I do – considerably so. But you’d never be able to keep up in a taxi to verify so! I guess your post explains why there are so many deadbeats getting around in 20 year old V8 taxis that look like they have a million k on them? Sad….

http://caradvice euroh8r

i guess you dont drive a euro car if you drive more than 60kmh…
our classic muscle cars are worth 20 times more than your old pieces of metal…
not sad…its fact…

Euroguy

“our classic muscle cars are worth 20 times more than your old pieces of metal…”

…… not on re-sale if my reading of Redbook is correct. Mine is still worth more than your new one – and mine is 3 years old! There’s no substitute for quality my friend – not even putting a V8 pushrod steam engine in a cab.

Classic? What, like an Edsel?

Krish

The Falcon interior looks much more classy than this. Hopefully the materials Holden uses and the way its put together is superior to the VE series 1…and at least on par with the Falcon.
Golfschwein

There was really nothing wrong with the VE interior that attention to surfaces wouldn’t have fixed. I mean, you had a good design that was pleasing to the eye, until you touched any of the Peugeot 307 plastics below glovebox level. Even the Caprice was afflicted. The material used on the dash tops was much nicer and the overall ambience would have been improved just by using it throughout, along with a splash of colour.

But now we have this: the original rectangular outboard air vents and new round ones in the middle. Can Holden designers please explain?

nickdl

Agreed but the screen did have to move.

Goodfa

The exterior is a slight improvement and hopefully the interior has better qaulity materials as the hard plastic which marks easily is one of VE owners biggest gripes.

I cannot help thinking that this update is too little too late.
ScottB

Well that upgrade’s a whole lot of meh. Here’s hoping the money they saved on not redesigning the interior was spent on making sure its better screwed together. I’m pleased with the progress Holden has made on reliability but the interior, at least in our new work fleet cars, is nasty.
TomJ

In come the anti holden bandwagon!

This is a computer generated picture by caradvise? Are you people really dumb enough to judge it as fact?

Dirt Diver

Not the Anti Holden bandwagon mate, the anti Bogan bandwagon. After all, Holdens are the Bogans choice.

Dave

PIctures look good, but we will have to wait and see. Holden have been very good at making all their variants look different to one another. I suspect the final version will stand out more.

The interior looks ok, but i don see how they can fit the extra 3 sports gauges that HSV use if there are vents in the way. I doubt if the interior will have the same layout as the picture
BlackJesus

Its funny how all the negative Holden basher comments always get the highest rated? and when ever someone says something positive about it the comment either gets an extremely low rating or the comment gets removed. I think its pretty sad, and even more so on the bias so called ‘moderators’ of this story.

Seriously i think this car is tops! The Haters are always full of jealousy! Good Job Holden!
Ghengis

If this rendering is anything to go by, I can’t believe they kept the hideous handbrake… even the footbrake in the Aurion is better.
so-pleaz-can-i-have-yo-number?

Just putting it out there:

This whole notion of boganism and commodores and holdens in general.

Having grown up in Oz, i feel a duty, somewhat, to buy Australian as much as possible, and i try to, and I’m proud that we do have some Australian built cars.

I am more than happy to buy a holden commie, if it wasn’t associated with hoons with rims worth more than the car itself, with southern cross stickers, and tattoos for that matter on their shoulder, with cheap exhaust mods, etc etc

Its hard to be a patriotic Australian and buy Aussie made cars without being associated with the ultra-nationalist F**K of we’re full crowd.

Thats why I will be buying a Falcon G6E

nickdl

Good on you! Much more of the G6E is Australian anyway and it’s probably the best Australian car ever made IMO.
The Realist

The G6E that looks like a BF Falcon from a Lakemba garage?

so-pleaz-can-i-have-yo-number?

well who ever owns that garage has good taste because G6E is one bloody good car!

i agree nickdl, but i think ford hasn’t marketed it as well as hey could have.
Betty Blue

Yet more insightful comments from the Realist, well done mate, keep up the good work, you give us all a good laugh.

Dave

Lets nots forget the Calais, Sportswagon or even the Statesman. These are generally well looked after, stylish and you dont many that have been stickered or dropped.

nickdl

Yeah the politicians generally treat their V6 Statesmans well. You’ll find plenty of used V8 ones on the market that are lowered and stickered.

How many people do you see with a lowered, stickered VL Calais turbo? What about someone earlier on this thread talking about his lowered, modified VY Calais.

The Sportwagon is obviously not going to attract that sort of thing for a while because it’s still too expensive for a bogan to buy and modify.

wilson333

the only time i ever bought an australian car was back in 97 when i got my brand new mitsubishi magna altera charcol grey lowered with factory fitted 17″‘s 3.0 v6

best car i ever owned.
waggaclint

I see it still has the dodgy hand-brake lever…
wilson333

actualy no i drive a bmw x5 now have had many cars in between the magna and the x5 and obviously the x5 is better then the magna
but when i owned my magna my mates both had commodores and falcons that consantly had problems and drove like ****. magna drove as well as current VE and never had single problem, looked way nicer too
Karl Kranlschaft

Wilson , Magnas are nice reliable cars but isn’t it going a bit far to say it looks nicer than a VE. Anyway the exterior isn’t groundbreaking but definitey neatens it up a bit and might help sales along but even to a huge Holden/Aussie Car fan… That interior doesn’t do much for me. Looks a little rushed . I know I’m going to get eleventh billion people saying ohh it’s just a CGI but the spy shots show the same vents and big gap between AC controls and screen. I really hope Holden are trying to throw us off the scent. And please Holden a TT3.6 or 3.0 would be sweet.

wilson3339

sorry i ment it looked better than my mates VS commodore and my other mates EL falcon VE is defenatly a better looking car.

scatman

So you srive an X5 and your “mates” have a VS and an EL,
I dont think so

wilson333

if you read my comment properly you would realise that my mates had VS commodore and EL falcon when i had my magna they drive different cars now as i do my x5.

Karl Kranlschaft

Euroguy why do you hate on Holdens in 2006 they were a world class car. True that it’s a bit long in the tooth now but it’s unreasonable to call them taxis. Also why does everyone hate pushrods. There’s nothing wrong with them and look te ZR1 has them and that is one of the fastest cars around Nurburgring.

Rhubard

It gives the Ford fanboys a catchword…makes them feel good, cause the Ford V8 equivalent aint a patch on the GM V8 pushrods or not haha

signma

this is a farce 1st of all

most of you don’t know much about vehicles

most of you don’t do your research and you’re really getting a label of being the farce makers here

a stock standard VX Executive ex police car with only 237kW from 225kW “tuned” and this is only ECU tuned with stiffer springs, 3.45:1 LSD and stock 4 speed auto is as fast, as quick and as brisk as a stock standard 325kW HSV GTS.

it weights 280kg less, its simpler, more agile, lower centre of gravity and in fact is a bullet of a car.

Just because its of an older generation does not mean that its a “BETTER” car in terms of safety, equipment, looks etc etc or even reliability, but in fact its faster.

How many people have blown a 317kW LS3 in their 285kW Senator LS1? , i have seen dozens, just because the car makes similar output, torque and power and it weighs 150kg less, has less gear changes to go through and is proven and been around for more than 10 years.

A stock standard VZII Calais 4 speed auto with its short 2 1st gears, 510Nm of torque with 260kW will for the fact beat a stock standard VE Calais 6.0 with 270kW/530Nm and totally mesh, eat alive a de-tuned slow responding 260kW/517Nm AFM variant.

These are the real world observation facts.

Go better TV commercial is just for the illiterate, working class with less than ten years of education with naive attitude whom simply go and buy that car because the TV tells them too, its like flies flying on to s#%%t when an opportunity comes.

think about it all. read don’t ignore;)

Shak

I did read, and i agree with you that a tuned Commodore from the VY-VZ era is probably faster, but people have gotten over the “mines faster than yours in a straight line” mentality. Have you ever seen those commodores try and carve up a mountain pass, or even go around proper corners? i assume no. The Falcons and Commodores of today are designed to be ll rounders, not just “bullets” as you so crudely put it.
whatefa

I personally don’t give a damn how fast my (or anyone else’s) car goes over 400m or whether the previous or subsequent model was 0.43572 sec faster.

swi

There’s no point buying a commodore and pretending it’s a sports car. It’s not. It will never have a purpose built chassis and body which a sports car is inhibited with. If you want a performance sports car with power look elsewhere. For the money there is no other sedan which comes close in overall value.
But if your going to sit here and write about how fast this commodore is and how that makes it a better car tell me another story.
What is the point of having 300 kw HSV? Just to get to the lights and belt it?
There’s more to motoring than that. The best fun I’ve had in a car was not in straight line.

Steven

HOLDEN= HOLES, OIL LEAKS, DENTS, ENGINE NOISE

THEY SIMPLY AREN’T AS RELIABLE AS FORDS

.

Dennis

What’s your IQ? -245?
Shak

Fix Or Repair Daily, Found On Rubbish Dump….should i go on.
wilson3339

so falcons dont have these problems do they?
answer no they dont….falcon has always had the same problems from the AU to the FG the problems that they junt dont bother to fix and they dont do anything about them if you aproach them and then they wonder why half the ford dealerships in australia are in court atm.

commodores always have problems but they fix them and then end up with different problems.

falcons and commodores are just as bad as each other they cant compete with the reliability of Japaniese and German cars. sorry for bagging australian cars but its the truth.

so-pleaz-can-i-have-yo-number?

Do your selves a favor chaps, and buy a Ford G6E.
so-pleaz-can-i-have-yo-number?

If you have any class that is.

wilson3339

i must say G6E turbo is a very nice looking car and has a great engine it is my favouritre of all the new falcons but i wouldnt buy one
i do have class tho thats why i drive a bmw.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1285962287 Declan Collins

Part of the snobby class . Jokes

steven

Lose 200kg, buy some longer lasting glue and longer screws for the interior and it might be a contender.
peter f

GM you must be joking, the 2 round vents are absolutely rubbish, do the right thing and change your design
Karl Kranlschaft

Ahhk Wilson . The Magna was a better looking car than the VS for sure . And I’m a Holden fan. I also find the G6ET pretty sweet and it has class. And someone else said a ‘detuned slow responding 260kw/517nm AFM’. That isn’t entirely true. I have been in a 2007 VE SSV a 2009 Calais AFM and a 2007 Calais (w/o AFM). And I have been in these alot and the AFM would suck the doors off the non AFM 07 Calais and come close to the SSV. Or maybe this example was a freak . And Signma you’ve got a point but you can’t really blame the car makers for adding more weight ( for safety etc).
Van Ariel Disease

Shak……..Ford australia sell less cars and make a profit……..GM sell more cars but make huge losses…….should I go on?

Obama Holden have never been able to design a good looking interior and this certainly continues that fact with this abomination……..its just plain awful.

Jack

I actually really like the HJ-HZ interior, in GTS form. And the HK-T-G Monaro GTS interior, and the HK-T-G Brougham and HQ Statesman interior with Brocade trim/Castillion weave cloth… I don’t think Obama was involved then, though.

Spam word Cadillac, how apt!

Joel

the current VE interior isnt that bad its actualy quite nice and this is just a photoshop image there are spy pics of the real thing on other sites and it dosent look very cheap at all, the bit around the screen is like a real glaassy shine finish it looks good.
Radar13

If that what the interior’s going to look like, it’s good to see that they have kept the finger crunching handbrake lever and the borderline safe small side mirrors.
And to keep the true VE fans happy, they really haven’t changed a thing inside. It’s all in the colours and a bit of electronic gadgetry. Outside, a bit of remoulding here and there and tweak the motor so that it move closer to producing the performance and economy that it should have done so when it was first released and wham bam, you have a new Commodore.
Maybe they could have saved money on design and just kept the old layout, but spent their time on improving quality. Nah…next time.
Daniel

Congratulations, you have just come up with a design that looks the same as the BA Falcon that debuted 8 years ago… how is it that the commodore is still selling number one??

Dave

Number 1 by giving customers what they want. Good engines, models that look different (Calais vs SSV/ SSV Limited edition G8 – look very different to one another, Sportswagon and Sports ute. All good reasons why Commodore is number 1.

nickdl

Just seen actual spy pics in this month’s Wheels magazine. All of you idiots trying to justify that this is just a CGI are wrong. The SS-V interior will look like this one as confirmed in the photo, yes those tacky round vents are there.

Thankfully the Calais does not share these horrible vents and will have rectangular ones instead.
Michael

I don’t mind it at all. only criticism would be that gap where the hazard button is…needs something else there and the middle air vents are a bit gimmicky, but other than that yeah don’t mind it.

I can’t wait to see a DOHC V8 under the commodores bonnet…not saying pushrods are bad. But a high tech DOHC V8 e.g BMW, Merc etc would be magic in the transformation of the commodore into a real world competitor.

Just my 2 cents anyway
matt

hey CA, completly off topic, and probly the worst thread to bring it up in, but if you read this over, how about an update of the falcon V8, after googleing for abit, the only thing mentioned in news this year was apparently THIS article lol. there isnt XR8 on the ford website anymore (dont tell me why guys emmissions, i know) anyway, lookin forward to this and well.. the ford V8 more… long live aussie cars
Daniel

Outside looks good, However I think its about time holden put bi-xenon adaptive lights on the car instead of standard hallogen bulbs. Onto the interior, thumbs up for the iPhone/iPod intergration, However, What is with the Pods ontop for the A/C? Looks very cheap and the space between the A/C and the screen looks like it was an afterthought. I have to say Holden, You have had 4 1/2 years to work on the new interior, What have you been doing? The Ford FG interior is much better. And before everyone throws abuse at me for bagging holden, I am a holden fan and own a VE calais. So i love holden but this is a very poore effort from Holden if this is what the final interior will look like.
joe

tinted headlight and tail-light clusters, this is standard on all ssv series. spy shots are wrong