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Julia Gillard & Climate Change – don’t blame the car

By John Cadogan |

If you’ve been dead from the neck up this past week, it might come as something of a shock to learn Australia has a its 27th – and first female – Prime Minister, Julia Gillard.

So, is Ms Gillard a closet drifter? Has she been busted at 160km/h in a 40 zone? Not so far as we know. You’re probably thinking: Relevance of the whole recent political knife-fight bizzo to Car Advice? Zip? Less than zip? Well, not quite. In her acceptance speech, Ms Gillard, 48, solemnly intoned: “… I believe in climate change. I believe human beings contribute to climate change.” She also said: “If elected as Prime Minister I will re-prosecute the case for a carbon price at home and abroad.”

This means – basically – carbon dioxide, greenhouse, the environment, etc., will be the subject of ongoing public debate in the medium term in this country. And that means there’s a fair old chance the car will be once again unfairly and publicly demonized – in some quarters to a degree way, way beyond its actual contribution to the nation’s CO2 emissions. Crackpot greenies are on it right now, you can bet.

This column isn’t a debate about climate change – I’m not a climate scientist. So how the hell would I know? If the consensus view of climate scientists is that we need to cut CO2 emissions, fair enough – let’s do that. But let’s do it in a rational way, by targeting the biggest emitters, and by picking the lowest-hanging of the fruit first. That seems like a reasonable way to go about it.

Thankfully, in May this year the Federal Government’s Department of Climate Change and Energy Efficiency (a name that demands landscape-format business cards…) published its latest National Greenhouse Gas Inventory (NGI), which you can download as a PDF. It lists all the big CO2 emitters. It’s very interesting reading if you’re a car enthusiast (or a cow – we’ll get to that).

According to the NGI, the country’s total CO2 emissions for the year to December 2009 were 537 million tones (Mt) of CO2-equivalent. Huh? Basically, there is more than one greenhouse gas. There’s your basic CO2, your oxides of nitrogen, your methane, and your halocarbons (think: refrigerants). All these gasses have different greenhouse-causing potentials (they don’t contribute equally to the problem – a tonne of methane is a bigger greenhouse problem than a tonne of CO2, for example). What the NGI does is convert the methanes, NOx and halocarbons to the equivalent amount of CO2 in terms of the greenhouse contribution, for fairness. All the figures quoted in this report are in million tones of CO2 equivalent.

So, according to the NGI’s official data, of that total national annual emission of 537Mt, passenger cars emitted just 42Mt – or 7.8 per cent. Take a look at electricity – a mind bending 202Mt, or 38 per cent. That’s right: electricity emits five times the greenhouse gas of the humble passenger car. Got any extra lights burning in the house right now?

Agriculture emits 84Mt – double that of the passenger car. And, according to the NGI, of that 84Mt, 56Mt is the product of the ‘enteric fermentation’ of livestock. This is a very technical term for what is basically the contribution to greenhouse of millions of cows and sheep farting. That’s not a joke. It means cows and sheep farting is a bigger greenhouse issue than all of Australia’s passenger cars.

Fuel consumption in the mining of non-energy resources (think: iron ore, bauxite, gold, lime, etc.) is 49Mt – 17 per cent more than passenger cars. Exploiting resources is a bigger greenhouse issue than passenger cars.

Industrial processes – refining minerals (producing cement, for example), emissions from the chemicals industry, and metal production (making aluminium from bauxite, for example) – account for 31Mt worth of emissions. So-called ‘fugitive emissions’ – gasses that escape from the production of coal, gas, oil and solid fuels – total 40Mt. And, of those, 29Mt comes from coal mining and decommissioned coal mines. Industries that can’t control their leakages is the same as passenger cars from a greenhouse perspective.

Lastly, deforestation releases 50Mt worth of annual greenhouse emissions, though this is offset by reforestation schemes, which sequester carbon and bring that total down to a more respectable 23Mt.

What utterly gobsmacks me about all these different sources isn’t really the size of the problem. Nope, what’s got me 100 per cent stumped is public perception. I mean, if you say ‘climate change’ or ‘CO2’ or ‘greenhouse problem’ to your average Joe in the street, plenty of times the gut reaction will be ‘car’. I mean, what are these people running their computers on? Petrol?

We’re never going to make a real dent in CO2 by demonizing the car. Or by reducing the fuel consumption of passenger cars without targeting all the other emitters in a similar fashion. If we could cut the fuel consumption of passenger cars by 15 per cent overnight (and we could do that, theoretically, just by driving smarter) it would make just over one per cent difference to the national greenhouse emissions picture. But if we could cut electricity consumption by 15 per cent (also possible in theory) it would make almost six per cent difference.

Frankly, you’d be doing the greenhouse problem a bigger favour by using less heat in winter, less air conditioning in summer and turning off the lights when you’re not in the room, than you would by ditching the car you love.

You wait and see the well-intentioned greenhouse crackpots amp up into full-tilt car demonization when Ms Gillard starts getting the electorate all hot and bothered over the fair price for carbon as the only option to prevent envirogeddon. It’s cool in some circles to point the finger at cars and label them evil devices, but doing so is far from the truth. Also, it won’t get the job done.


 
  • Devil666

    It won’t be long till the government starts taxing humans for emitting CO2 (read: breathing). I wonder what our percentage is?

    • Shak

      Dont be giving them any ideas. If they can put a tax on a tax itself, they can tax our existence.

      • Chris

        Beware of red-head monkeys picking your pockets.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1435885244 Yani Hendriawan

      what if they start fining us for farting…

    • Simon

      Don’t trust Gillard on any environmental stance she espouses. She has just indicated she will appoint Rudd to Cabinet IF they win the election. If he is good enough to be in cabinet then put him in now so we know exactly who we are voting for and why. Otherwise it’s just a fair-weather, government that are a union’s puppet.

  • macca

    Ah yes, “Global Warming” from the likes of Al Gore (the carbon billionare). And when they found out the world wasn’t warming (as they had hoped), they rebranded it to “The Theory of Climate Change” just to get some more mileage out of their brand. The globe hasn’t warmed, so it’s still a theory.

    Anyway, didn’t this issue die off with the IPCC’s “Climategate” expose – where they blackballed opponents, fuddled figures and suppressed the truth?

    • Jimmy

      “The globe hasn’t warmed, so it’s still a theory.”

      Um, what? Yes it has. There has been a consistent warming trend since the early-mid 20th century. And that’s an indisputable fact.

      • Marxist

        The earth started warming long before the early-mid 20th century. The earth started warming around 40,000 years ago, but the climate change scientists only use the warming from around 150 years ago to present, as it can be conveniently used to blame humans for global warming. If they actually use all the data and evidence that proves the Earth started warming 40,000 years ago, clearly the blame can’t be levelled at human activity. The simple debunk of man made climate change is, the planet was covered in ice around 40,000 years ago, now it isn’t, man certainly didn’t cause the planet to warm and melt the ice, thus ending the last ice age. The planet has warmed for the last 40,000 years and is now due to enter a cooling phase. There is enough evidence to prove that Earth has a cooling/warming cycle of 100,000 years, we are approaching the mid way part of the cycle. So no matter what the Govt’s around the world say, we can’t stop the planet from going through it’s natural cycle. The planet has warmed and will soon enough start to cool. We should look after the planet, stop cutting down all the forests, we should stop polluting the oceans and environment, but taxing everything that produces carbon is not the way to do it, especially as Earth is a carbon based eco system. Climate change is real, man made climate change is a scare tactic being used to bend the will of the people to conform to Govt agenda.

        • Marcoz

          Well said Marxist, well bloody said….finally someone who has enough brains to see what bs is being put out from the governments of the world and the ecomentalists.
          Ive always said Al Gore was the instigater of this “whole world going to end unless we ditch the car” BS. A mate of mine was so against getting a new car, specifically a v8 car just because he watched the inconvenient truth…I couldnt beleive my ears….suffice to say, i smacked some sense into his head…….he bought a v8….

          Nice one..

          • Simo

            Totally agreed with what Marxist said. Too many simple minded amoebas these days that would swallow anything government or media says. I agree at the fact that fossil oil may be depleted one day and we all should be seeking for renewal source of energy but when government starts taxing people left and right with these so called carbon tax you know they just trying to create a new stream of income.

        • Jimmy

          I don’t mean to hijack this story thread, as we’re probably getting off topic a bit, but anyway…

          Scientists probably don’t dispute cooling and warming cycles, but man-induced climate change is a completely separate issue. There are indisputable trends between emissions and global temperature. The correlation between the data is proven to correct and used as fact by the world’s leading scientific organisations.

          Interesting conspiracy theories, but unfortunately just about every well-informed, qualified scientist on the planet would disagree with you.

          • Betty Blue

            “Indisputable trends between emissions and global temperature and the correlation between data is proven correct and used as facts.”

            Is this the same information used to to formulate the numerous predictions that keep changing, conveniently when the agenda suffers a set back. Is this the same information used to produce the famous Hockey stick graph which has been proven to be wrong.
            Taking a snapshot of 150 years out of a period of warming in excess of 40,000 years doesn’t really sit well with scientific accuracy. Why are the scientists focusing on such an insignificant length of time in the overall scheme of climate change and discarding the previous 39,850 plus years of warming.
            At the end of the day, scientists lay the blame of climate change on man, even though the climate has been changing for the last 40,000 years.
            Even if by some miracle, man made climate change turns out to be real, I would think the cause has less to do with carbon gases produced by man and more to do with the fact there is far less rainforest to process the carbon gases, thanks to man.

          • Jimmy

            Why do scientists largely concentrate on a sample of 150 years to study the effects of climate change? Because man has done most of their polluting in this period of time (see industrialisation).

            And yes, you are correct, deforestation is one of many major causes of climate change.

          • Marxist

            How can man made climate change be real, when the climate has been changing far beyond mans polluting. The planet didn’t start warming 150 years ago, it started warming tens of thousands of years earlier. Govts have seen a quick and easy way to make more money and control the people, by taking a warming period which started 40,000 years ago and blaming humans for it. They say it is a new problem created by human industrialisation and not part of the normal cycle, even though it sits smack bang in an warming phase that has been going since the last ice age. To prove they a right, they simply ignore the fact the warming started a lot earlier than 150 years ago and use predictions. Predictions do not equal scientific fact. Scientists can’t predict the weather accurately for tomorrow, so how on earth can the predict the weather 50 years from now.
            So man did most of their polluting in the last 150 years, and that is why the focus on this period and ignore the 39,850 plus years of previous warming. How good of nature to, retrospectively apply the scientific evidence man has caused the planet to warm, all the way back to to the end of the endlast ice age. Clearly, without the polluting of man in the last 150 years, the climate planet would not have warmed.

        • Micky

          You don’t know what you’re on about Marxist, the top scientists in the world all agree on global warming and you think you know more than them? Watch “An Inconvenient Truth” with Al Gore. The greatest increase in global temperature has occured in the past 100-150 years. It is increasing at a far greater RATE than it has at any time in the past. It is NOT natural for the temperature on the planet to increase so rapidly in such a short period of time.

          • Marxist

            Why would I bother watching an inconvenient truth when all the scientific evidence has been discredited. The major point, the hockey stick graph has been proven to be wrong. All the man made climate change is based on predictions, which have yet to be right and have had more changes than a Labor govt. If the best defence you can come up with is, watch an inconvenient truth, a discredited doucumentary, you have a problem.
            Not all the Top scientists in the world agree on climate change. There are plenty of top scientists who say Man made climate change is crap. If scientists are being paid big dollars by Govts all around the world to prove a theory, then of course they are not going to bight the hand that feeds them. What about the leaked emails showing fudged figures to prove a theory that otherwise couldn’t be. The man made climate change agenda has suffered a setback because under independent peer scrutiny, their evidence, theories and predictions don’t stand up.
            You should also be more specific, it is no longer Global Warming, as the entire planet isn’t warming, it is anthropologic climate change, as it is different to climate change. It was hard to keep calling it Global Warming, when one side of the Antarctic is in fact getting bigger.

          • macca

            Hey Micky, watch ‘The Great Global Warming Swindle’ to get some balance.

            By the way, An Inconvenient Truth is riddled with errors. Justice Michael Burton of the English High Court noted the following;

            Gore presents Mt Kilimanjaro’s melting snows as proof of global warming. In fact, the snows are vanishing thanks to local factors, including deforestation.

            Gore suggests Antarctica’s ice cover is melting. Most studies says it is increasing or stable.

            Gore shows scary graphics of cities drowning in seas that rise 7m, causing millions of refugees. But the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change says the seas will rise at worst by 59cm this century.

            Gore uses images of Hurricane Katrina and suggests it was caused by global warming. The Government’s expert in this case admitted such one-off events can’t be blamed on warming.

            Gore suggests ice-core evidence shows rising CO2 caused temperature rises, which ended the past seven ice ages. In fact, the CO2 rises followed temperature rises by 800 to 2000 years.

            Gore claims global warming could stop the Gulf Stream, causing an ice age in Europe. Recent studies deny it.
            Gore blames global warming for species losses and coral reef bleaching. The Government couldn’t show evidence to back this claim.

            Gore claims a study showed polar bears had drowned because of vanishing ice. The study actually said just four polar bears drowned, and only because of a bad storm.

            Gore suggests Greenland’s ice could melt, causing a dangerous rise in sea levels. In fact, Greenland’s ice won’t melt for thousands of years.

            Gore shows the drying up of Lake Chad and claims this was caused by global warming. The Government’s expert agreed this was not the case.

            Gore claims rising seas have forced people to flee Pacific islands to New Zealand. There is no record of any such warming-caused evacuation.

            Checkmate!

  • My Cars Called T-Rex

    Don’t blame the car.Blame the BS coming from the university of East Anglia.

  • Devil’s Advocate

    I remember over in New Zealand a few years ago they tried to bring in a “Flatulence Tax” for their sheep/cattle farmers on a per head basis. What frustrates me though is that when the “greenies” go on and on about pushing people in cities into electric cars to cut greenhouse gasses, yet they look at you with a blank face when you ask them where does the power to charge it come from etc…

    There are even a few cars out there that in some cities the exhaust is cleaner than the air the car is breathing in!

  • Bezza

    Maybe we should put a tariff on Baked Beans. When that fails to cure the world’s ills invade Mexico putting all the burrito sellers into concentration camps; giving them ‘showers’ in CO2 equivalent Methane gas.

    I look forward to the day logic does rule over emotive greed.

    :)

  • Nick K

    Since Australia uses coal powered electric power stations the majority of our CO2 is in generating electricity. Even if all our cars where electric this would not help our CO2 emissions one bit. Cars are a relatively minor contributor.

  • MK

    Nuclear power, the only answer. But really hard to admit, even for the greens.

    • Dave

      Nuclear power! no way. Give me clean solar power. We have plenty of space and sun.

      • John Cadogan

        According to Professor David Goodstein, Professor of Physics and Applied Physics at the California Institute of Technology, to replace the earth’s current fossil fuel demand (about 10 terawatts) would require the construction of 10,000 of the biggest possible nuclear reactors. Running on U235 the known global reserves of Uranium would be exhausted in between 1-2 decades.
        (My take on this is that if this were done a nuclear disaster is virtually a certainty. And then there’s the waste, with its incredible toxic lifespan.)
        Solar: Prof. Goodstein says the earth is impacted daily by 20,000 times more sunlight energy that we currently consume from fossil fuels. So we’re awash in sunlight. Unfortunately, replacing fossil fuels with photovoltaic cells would require a total area about the same size as California, and the good professor says since the 1960s, the total area of solar cells produced is about 10 square kilometres…

        • Rob Holian

          But John, an area the size of california is not all that unachievable.

          It sounds mindboggling, but I think we have a wide, brown, uninhabitable, sundrenched country for a reason. No one (okay, very few people, then) lives out in the desert. And it’s a desert, so there’s lots of sun – doesn’t it seem like a no-brainer?

          Okay, solar cells are expensive, but if the government is truly serious about climate change, it needs to change the source of our electricity (which, at the moment, is coal, leading to the sky-high emissions levels you outlined). It ain’t going to happen overnight, but the more solar cells we build, the cheaper and better the technology is going to get. Slowly replacing our coal powerstations with solar cells doesn’t have to cost jobs, either.

          Someone needs to make the solar cells. Someone needs to man the solar power stations out in the desert. People need to transport the cells to the desert. By having a little bit of vision, an entrepeneur (with a healthy bit of dough to start of with) could start a company that puts Australia at the technological forefront of solar cell technology, and make a stack of cash. This clearly needs to be promoted by the government, and so far, we have yet to see a politician with such vision. I’m hoping that this will change with Ms. Gillard, but I’m not holding my breath.

          As for the car – it is making real progress. The development of the electric car will no doubt be spurred on by the huge popularity of Nissan’s LEAF, and I hope carmakers are quick to capitalise on the popularity of electric cars. Once the source of that electricity is cleaned up, we’ll be heading in the right direction.

          And cow farts… well, CO2 is only half the story. It’s the huge quantities of methane gas they also produce that causes the problem. Methane contributes to climate change 25 times more than CO2. It is no mere coincidence that many environmentalists are also vegans.

          Whether you believe in climate change or not, I find it mind boggling that people still think reducing CO2 and Methane emissions is a waste of time. There isn’t an indefinite supply of oil or coal in the world. The pollution our cars currently make is causing us massive harm (and arguably also a cause of the looming cancer epidemic), and we cannot go on like we do now forever and ever. We will simply run out of energy. And what will we do then?

          Every fabric of our society relies on the consumption of energy. But we are too complacent – we don’t have the energy, so to speak, to ensure that our future remains bright. Great article, and there is some great discussion going on here.

          • John Cadogan

            Thank you very much, Rob, for such a well-thought-out, considered response. My own view is that we humans do what we do because we are the only species that knows how to expend far more energy than we get from our food. Other species that try this perish. I think we’re well beyond the point of prudent consumption — I see advances being made, but not quickly enough. I agree with you on solar. Every time I drive in the Global Green Challenge I see more than enough empty wasteland awash in sunlight. We certainly could do it … but will we? I’m not so sure. I find it curious that the climate skeptics use their rebuttal of the argument as an argument for maintaining the status quo, when reduced consumption is also a primary means of ensuring the country’s economic security (ref dependency on foreign oil, as well as increasing health and saving money individually into the bargain. Thanks once again for your comments.

      • Hung Low

        The problem with solar is that the size of the carbon footprint required just in the production of the cells! The time it takes one cell to give back the amount of energy expelled during its production almost makes solar redundant.

        I think that hydro electricity production out at sea using natures currents might be the only feasible solution atm. Damming rivers for hydro electricity production is a great recipe for damaging ecosystems.

        The simple facts are currently fossil fuels are still the most efficient way of energy extraction. The current mindset and efforts into alternative energy are still fairly young and it might take decades till we find “the total solution”. It is probably staring us in the face in nature like Nitrogen (the most abundant gas) or Hydrogen or harnessing the electricity from man made lightning.

  • Damo

    Good article, though written with some unjustified anger. Where is the over the top blaming of the car for CO2 emissions in this country? I’m very involved in the issue, and the main focus is on electricity generation and high emitting industry, as demonstrated by the only piece of ‘climate’ legislation to be enforced which is the 20% by 2020 renewable target. The proposed ETS excluded transport fuels. The focus for the car should be on the price of oil from both a cost to user perspective and cost to our environment in trying to dig it out of the ground and oceans.

    To Macca and others, I can “prove” that the world has warmed by our hand and so can the world’s leading scientific organisations such as NASA and Australia’s BoM and CSIRO. It’s time the public informed themselves on the climate issue and looked at the facts, rather than relying on self interest or corporate greed. The world has significantly warmed on a global scale for the past 40 years, hence the term “global warming”, but some areas of the globe react differently due to our complex climate system, hence the term “climate change”. The two terms are completely combatable with each other. If we keep a business as usual approach, we are in serious danger of encountering a world 4-5 degrees warmer on average then by 2070. Remember the world’s average temperature is currently 14-15 degrees, and has been for hundreds of thousands of years, so a 4-5 degrees higher average, for this country means a substantial increase in extremely hot days and a huge decrease in cold days, plus reduced rainfall and bigger tropical storms.

    Educate yourself guys and gals and become informed. Buy the most efficient car (better for your bottom line and the planet) but most importantly get your electricity from renewables. It is possible to have 100% renewable and get rid of coal. Go to Beyond Zero Emissions or Desertec Australia, to see how.

    • John Cadogan

      Damo, not a single angry word was used. Informed people (like you seem to be) know how big a problem coal-fired electricity is. However, out there in mainstream land, the car is often unfairly, disproportionately criticised but uninformed, but well intentioned crackpots (not by informed people like you). Incidentally I apologise without reservation if you thought my comments derided everyone interested in reducing CO2 output. (I’m with you; the prudent course of action on climate is to reduce CO2 emissions globally, because if the deep-ocean methane hydrates destabilise, if the thermohaline conveyor shuts down or if the Greenland Ice Shelf shifts, the world may well become unlivable in future generations.) In relation to cars, the more immediate issue for Australians is energy security (dependence on foreign oil and the dramatic near-term implications for Australia if supply is significantly reduced). The population at large seems to care only about the price of fuel, which is already perceived as high. Thankfully, however, the solution to the price paid for petrol, the solution to energy security and the solution to the car’s contribution to CO2 emissions are all one and the same: consume less. Pretty simple, huh?

      • Damo

        Thanks for the reply John. No offence was meant by the word anger. I just personally haven’t felt a huge anti car feeling in my circles when it comes to taking about CO2 emissions. But I am not as heavily involved in that side of the debate as you. I agree with you that uninformed people skew the facts and then make a debate about the best course of action unachievable aka politics….

        We must move towards a carbon free electricity grid over this next decade. Leading scientists, like James Hansen from NASA, call for this most urgently. He basically states that let oil and gas run their course, as even the most optimistic estimates have the worlds resources of these running out by 2050. And as you have shown they are not the big emitters. A renewable grid, combined with reforesting the world, is the only answer to get our atmospheric CO2 levels back down to 350ppm and ensure a viable future. See figure 23 at http://www.columbia.edu/~mhs119/Storms/

        Also a renewable grid then combines well with EV charging stations, one like BetterPlace is aiming to rollout next year in Canberra. From your automotive point of view, how does the world best combine an increasing cost for petrol with the rollout of electric? especially for Australia. An article from you about this would be great reading.

      • Jimmy

        I’m guessing he’s referring to terms like “greeny crackpot”.

      • Damo

        Thanks for the reply John. No offence was meant by the word anger. I just personally haven’t felt a huge anti car feeling in my circles, when it comes to taking about CO2 emissions. But I am not as heavily involved in that side of the debate as you. I agree with you that uniformed people skew the facts and then make a debate about the best course of action unachievable.

        We must move towards a carbon free electricity grid over this next decade. Leading scientists, like James Hansen from NASA, call for this most urgently. He basically states that let oil and gas run their course, as even the most optimistic estimates have the world resources of these running out by 2050. And as you have shown they are not the big emitters. A renewable grid, combined with reforesting the world, is the only answer to get our atmospheric CO2 levels back down to 350ppm and ensure a viable future.

        Also a renewable grid combines well with EV charging stations, one like BetterPlace is aiming to rollout next year in Canberra. From an automotive point of view, how does the world best combine an increasing cost for petrol with the rollout of electric? especially for Australia. An article from you about this would be great reading.

  • Steven

    What about the pollution created to make the car and ship it? This has to be factored in too.

    • John Cadogan

      80 per cent of cars sold in Australia are imported. Therefore, 80 per cent of making/shipping isn’t part of our country’s national accounts. We have one of the oldest fleets in the developed world, at about 10yrs old on average, so most news cars in Australia amortise the production/shipping CO2 over 10yrs. And shipping is a tiny contributor to CO2 (it’s a very efficient way to transport goods, per tonne). Resources mined here, steel produced here, car manufacturing here are all included in the National Greenhouse Inventory.

      • go away

        Its called GLOBAL warming for a reason!! if we are buying cars from overseas we should own a share of that CO2 from production. They are making it for us. For our demand for product. It is an arrogant argument to then say the CO2 produced by the production of goods for us belongs to someone else. This is a fundamental argument that is holding back any global agreement on climate change.

        If i were countries like china or the like, I’d tell us to get stuffed too.

        In the end it doesnt really matter where it is comes from cause its ONE planet.

        • John Cadogan

          Yes, it is one planet. Obviously. But we can’t control what other countries do. So Australia’s greenhouse gas emissions, which were the subject of the report, are limited to enterprises within Australia. I would have thought that they’re not “making it for us” as you claim but rather “selling it to us” — and some of that money should probably pay for that overseas enterprise to clean up its act. So it’s not arrogant at all; you just haven’t thought it through. We can’t really tell the US, the Europeans, the Chinese, the Thias of the Japanese what to do because we import goods from them. This is why world leaders get together to discuss climate change…

  • Alan

    “Millions of cows and sheep farting” – very evocative, I am sure, but not quite correct. Ruminant animals such as cows and sheep actually belch far more Methane than they fart. There are investigations underway to try to change their stomach chemistry, which causes this problem. The “sacred cows” of India are one of the biggest emitters of Methane.
    The main target for CO2 reduction should be the coal fired electricity generators, especially brown coal, which emits much more than black coal and not just CO2. Brown coal power stations also emit tonnes of heavy metal pollution such as lead, mercury and uranium.
    All emitters of pollution need to do their bit to ease the problem. Climate change deniers are the modern day equivalent of flat earthers.

    • John Cadogan

      OK, I stand corrected: It’s millions of cows and sheep belching and farting. Important distinction. When you say, ‘belch much more than they fart’ do you have a breakdown on this? How much is farting, and how much is belching — could be a great pub trivia question. But if we’re going to go down this pedantic track, I feel compelled to point out that CO2 and pollution are very different things. The federal government doesn’t even classify CO2 as a pollutant. Agreed that they’re both bad. So, pollution is bad for health (not just human health) but isn’t necessarily a greenhouse issue. I think we both agree that coal is the big greenhouse issue for Australia, which isn’t to say transport, agriculture and Forestry can’t also do its bit. For the record, burning coal is, in my view, a crime against humanity. And in Australia we’re just about all complicit in its commission every time we turn on the lights.

    • Marxist

      “Climate change deniers are the modern day equivalent of flat earthers.”

      That is a load of crap. There is a huge difference between climate change and man made climate change. Nearly everyone agrees that climate change is real, the earth has proven that over billions of years. Man made climate change on the other hand is a lot harder to swallow. Mainly because the science used to prove it is based on a convenient 150 year window of a 40,000 year period of warming and because the predicitions made change with the political tide. CO2 is getting the blame, yet as far as greenhouse gasses go, it is one of the least responsible for warming, especially compared to Methane. CO2 cops the blame because it is the one that is produced the most, because of the fact that the Earth is a carbon based eco system, therefore it is the one gas which can be taxed for greatest returns. If govts were truly worried about man made climate change, the Amazon Rainforest would be protected and re-grown, the rainforests in Indonesia would be re-grown and the human population would be capped, like other animal species.
      Man made climate change is all about control of the people and increasing tax revenue, unfortunately, there are enough gullible people out there to swallow it hook line and sinker. God and religion were invented to control the people, now that religion is losing its power to control and influence people, along comes man made climate change to replace it. Man made climate change is the new God and religion.

      • My Cars Called T-Rex

        I agree Marxist – and the word “government” is made of two words in latin(if i remember correctly)Govern which means control and mente,which means mind.

  • Tom22

    Very good article caradvise, very good. This is a summary article that everyone needs to read not just about car emissions, but about Global Warming total.

    I find they are underestimating the amount of methane produced by wildlife in that report also. Some recent estimates is that wildlife methane emissions count for up to 40% of earths “CO-2 Equivilent” emission.

    The reason for this? We have 6 billion people when earth should have a maximum of 1 billion (as was the case in 1900).

  • myskoda

    Climate change is nothing but a weapon created by enemies of the West (democrats, china, india, etc) to wreck our economies, we must not be so gullible as to believe their lies.

  • Taka

    Climate change is real. It is to do with over population on this planet. There are more humans here on earth than the planet can sustain. To support each of our desire and well beings, the amount of resources required is enormous. Just about everything produces emission, from transportation, manufacturing, farting, exhaling, live stock etc. The list goes on. The increase activity in volcanic, earthquakes and wild storms is the effects caused by all the damage of drilling and mining the earth for its natural resources, creating pockets in the crust and balance of weight on the tectonic plates.

    • Jester

      Lets have a WW3 than and annihilate 2,000,000,000 people – that should fix the issue of too many people.

  • Dave

    Two years ago I finished my degree to be an environmental scientist. First of all I’m no vegan, tree hugging hippie who believes Toyota priuses are the solution to climate change, nor do I coast down hills to save fuel; I drive a v8. My take on climate change:The worlds total co2 is an estimated 440 gigatones per year for all sectors combined. Were all told they co2 warms the planet, kills polar bears and reduces overall life expectancy; this is all political propaganda. Co2 is orderless, colorless and is non toxic. Also a recent scientific study found that plants on average absorb between 400-500 gigatones of co2 per; this in effect is a balancing act. Also the planet has been far warmer in the past then today. Look at the medieval ages. Also the notion of co2 increases causing increases in temperature is rubbish. In the time called the post economic boom period after world war two I believe, production of goods and services soared, along with co2. However, in this year temperatures actually decreased. Finally Al gore is just a politician who stretches the truth he even admitted it in an interview. Also in Al gores so called ‘inconvenient truth’ documentary he showed a temperature graph of co2 rising with temperature. However, close analysis of this graph revealed that temperature increases occurred long before co2 increases, therefor no correlation. Keep up all of your good educated opinions and statements everyone!

    • Wow…

      Sorry, what university did you attend? Just keen to know so I never recommend their Environmental Science degree to anyone…

  • Tinman

    Firstly,great article John.

    Let’s just ignore for a moment, that Al Gore is a liar, like the tobacco industry that funded his education and rise to power.
    Let’s ignore for a moment,the so called hard facts presented by scientists funded by left wing goverment.
    The same left wing government that’s itching to apply a carbon tax.
    Can someone explain how a carbon tax is going to save the planet?

  • RD

    Even if global warming turns out not to be real or not as worse as predicted, isn’t it better if we decrease our reliance on non-sustainable energy anyway? I can never understand all the people who jump and down and say “oh it’ll ruin us!” yes and so will relying on fuels that will be gone within a few decades!

    • Tinman

      Yes RD, how is a carbon tax going to do this?

  • GTK

    I agree mr Cadogan that dependence on foreign oil is costing us a fortune and goes alot further than the trade deficit. Now for a moment of genuine anger: Can someone tell me why the falcodaurion does not have an underfloor composite tank pressured to 30 Meg with natural gas feeding a cheap low rpm 6 or 8 with negligle pollution utilising today’s technology? I mean, we only have 300 F^@!K%N years supply!! – and we could use the green banner to make it a success for local manufacturing and aussie know-how.

  • Lee Enfield

    I have decided to do my part for saving the planet. I just ordered a new GT, and went for green, so I can say, look I drive a green car and am helping save the environment.

  • Flying High

    Scientists can prove just about any theory if you pay them to do so. Right now, climate change is the topic of disucssion. There is endless amounts of money to be made from it. Scientists know where their bread is buttered and most are more than happy to jump onto the band wagon. The alternative likely being the unemployment queue.

    Human induced global warming is undoubtedly the biggest crock of s**t consumers have ever been fed. And sadly too many are lapping it up.

  • pirakavezok

    To me, it doesn’t really matter whether car emission is 7.8% or 78% so long as we are mindful of the need to minimise wastage of natural resources when carrying out our daily activities. Human activities in general cause global warming leading to climate change. Sometimes, saving fuel is a simple matter of using our common sense. The days of incriminate consumption of fossil fuel must end before it is too late.

  • Dave

    Wow, your asking me what university I attended; what sort of education do you have? People are free to express their opinions and facts right or wrong.

  • MK

    The government shouldnt tax Bio Fuels made from USED vegetable oil! Stupid Government.

  • jay

    Does this mean I can remove the catalyser from my car and free up some ponies?

  • Dave

    Good point MK. At least we don’t have co2 taxes like Europe, at least for now.

  • Samr

    Does not matter anyway, you are not going to change the effect of CO2 on the climate (if it is happening at all) by making small cuts in CO2 output.

    You need to go almost carbon free, and that is everyone not just the wealthy West. If China and India don’t join in, it is fruitless. China wont join and India can’t join, they are flat out feeding their people.

    Half measures are useless.

    So the car DOES have to go to “tackle” climate change

  • pandora

    this is a farce, they all drive in 6.0L L76 holden statesmen vehicles

    • Dave

      Its not a farce – they are an awesome car

  • Chris

    I love how people claim Al Gore’s documentary is rubbish without watching it, because it is convenient to their agenda.

    The most simple point of the film was that, yes there are cycles completely natural to the planet which show warming and ice ages. However, the measured levels of CO2 preceding each previous ice age are many times lower than the current levels of CO2 in the atmosphere. It is incredibly obvious that the additional CO2 we pump into the atmosphere has had an effect. I cannot believe there are educated and semi educated people in the first world still denying the fact that our CO2 emissions contribute to the levels of CO2 in the atmosphere! Of course this has lead to a much higher level of CO2 than previously recorded. Where do deniers think that our CO2 goes?

  • masealake

    What are time bombs of Australia democratic society?

    The Australia historical hung parliament demonstrated the big gap of inequality society between the small educated elite groups who get highest pay by talk feast used mouth work controlling live essential resources of the country in every social platforms against the biggest less educated groups who get lowest pay by hands work squeezed by discriminative policies that sucking live blood from poor/less wealth off?

    Voters’ voices do not hear?
    Voters’ pains do not ease?
    Voters’ cries do not care?

    1. Poverty will not be phase out if no fairer resources to share;
    2. Illness will not be reducing if no preventive measurement in real action;
    3. Agriculture will not be revitalize if urbanization continuing its path;
    4. Housing affordability will not be reach for young generation if government continues cashing from young generation debt by eating out the whole cake of education export revenue without plough back;
    5. Manufacture industry will shrink smaller and smaller if no new elements there to power up to survive;
    6. Employability will not in the sustainable mode for so long as manufacture and agriculture not going to boost.

    Ma kee wai
    (Member of Inventor Association Queensland since 1993)

  • masealake

    What democratic societies should learn lessen from Australia election 2010:
    1. What voters crying for reforms not just parliament, but for all department?
    Voter’s pains did not link to high income Politicians and Bureaucracy.
    The Australia historical hung parliament demonstrated the big gap of inequality society between the small educated elite groups who get highest pay by talk feast used mouth work controlling live essential resources of the country in every social platforms against the biggest less educated groups who get lowest pay by hands work squeezed by discriminative policies that sucking live blood from individual poor/less wealth off?

    Voters’ voices do not hear?
    Voters’ pains do not ease?
    Voters’ cries do not care?

    Voter is crying for department reforms over 70 years that resulting a 2010 Hung Parliament?
    An iceberg example of voter’s crying:
    “……it seem to me there was an unfair to treat me when the merit of “Claim for Disability Support Pension or Sickness Allowance” form in detail clearly defy 15 hours classify the cut off point for acceptance, when comparing to my early assessment completed in June this year that it has the merit less than 8 hours (0-7) work capacity due to my long term medical impairment since an injury occurred in 2005”…….
    It was disappointing where the push of Parliament reform that mainly to brink good news to all MPs by the individual MPs during this year historical hung parliament in 70 years, and the reform did not including all Government Departments where it would directly brink good actions to all voters/or people?

    Ma kee wai
    (Member of Inventor Association Queensland since 1993)

  • Zee

    I think its time for Gizzard to put her money where her mouth is and get her chauffeurs vehicle swapped out from the nice, roomy and luxurious 6.0L Holden Caprice that he currently drives and get it replaced with Toyota Prius hatchback!

    And while we are at it how about we do a Green Audit on the “Lodge” and her personal home just to see how much she “Really Believes” in the Human factor?

    At the end of the day she’s just another politician trying to bring in a new super tax without providing any scientific evidence of EXACTLY how it will assist climate change! ZERO SOLID FACTS! The whole campaign is based on opinion and emotion and thats it! Its amazing that this is even up for discussion!

    On that note every other country in the world that has attempted to prove a carbon tax will improve climate change/reduce carbon emissions has failed!

    Why? Because big companies will just pay the tax, emission output will continue to be the same, climate change will continue as is and it will drive up prices for the everyday consumer YOU AND ME!

    And to anyone who is part of one of the Environmental groups that are protesting out on the streets, its time for you to grow up! You need to drop the emotion from your arguments, quit running ridiculous rally’s and start spending your time looking at the facts so that you actually have half an idea of what your protesting about!!

  • silvia

    Julia is on the right track, but the process needs to be alot faster ! Australia should invest into echo friendly products and most importantly ECHO FRIENDLY EQIPMENT’S to attract investers from all around the world, 1. we’ll be creating more jobs and 2 were saving our planet for us, next generation and so on. The government should invest into scientists to create echo friendly EQUIPMENT’S to not realese carbon into the air we all breath, we have the brains, we have todays technology to reduce carbon and invent more echo friendly products. So what’s the hold up….

  • HKGTS

    Just how much CO2 equivalent gases are produced in the production of every vehicle that we produce and put on the road. I would say that old “clunkers” would actually have a net reduction in CO2 gasses if we did not have this obsession with throwing out the old and replacing everything with the latest and greatest.