Very technologically advanced with all the gizmos you will ever need in a car but at $124,000 it lacks one thing the Germans have. Character. For $124,000 a car would need to turn my head when it drives past. Although new BMW 5 series and Merc E class may look less appealing to some compared to previous model, they both however still have character.
Why would anyone put ‘tape deck’ as a negative? Its not like it doesnt have a CD player with iPod connection. I applaud Lexus into putting the tape deck. I have lots of tapes that are not on CD and I only wish that more companies would put one in.
If you don’t like it, don’t use it. And in the Lexus it is tucked away down the bottom anyway.
I agree with you Tim, it wasn’t meant as a negative, more that I can’t see the point of them, given that cassette tapes from the good ole days would surely have deteriorated by now.
The integrated iPod connection is not available on the 2009 model, but is is one of several new features of the 2010MY car.
Hmmm… I wonder if Lexus could squeeze a record player in there as well.
Audi A6 with the 3.0t engine for this price.
I’d know what I choose.
Yup the Lexus for sure. How much more will you be spending on options to have a similar spec level in the Audi? $10,000, $20,000….
And 254kw in the Lexus compared to 213kw for the Audi.
A better comparison would have been the Audi A6 3.0TDI. The A6 3.0T would consume twice as much fuel as the Lexus GS450H. Whilst the 3.0TDI has Quattro AWD, it’s lacking in equipment compared to the Lexus, which is a no options proposition. If you optioned up the A6 to GS450H levels of equipment, you would be looking at a $140,000+ car.
the combined for the 3.0t is 9.4.
who consumes more fuel now compared to caradvices test?
Audi, ADR for 3.0T is 9.4 vs lexus 7.9
For me this is a little too over-styled… It just doesnt have that ‘refined’ look of a BMW…
I also think the centre console looks rather poxy and the fact they are using the same information screens as the Prius is just disappointing at this price point..
Not on my shopping list if i had the $$$
I realise driving this car must have been an exciting experience Anthony, but there is no reason to give it uneserved praise. For a start, the interior is nowhere near 5-stars worth, even as an exaggeration: the plastic piano black wood, the awful silver surrounding the monitor, and he dated, bright green time readout are evidence of this.
As for the exterior, the enormous rear overhang should promise an enormous boot, even with batteries. Sadly this is not the case, as shown by the tiny amount of bootspace. Small details sure, but added up they really detract a luxury feel, which is definitely something I feel in the equivelant BMW, Merc or Audi.
I can’t wait for the new model to come out, bringing the GS-F with it, but even then I don’t think it will be able to compete with it’s Teutonic rivals.
Not sure if you realise, but all Lexus woodgrain is made of real wood. They have never used plastics in any of their models. It’s 100% REAL wood, unlike european counterparts.
Nice car, might consider it in 6 months time when I’m due for an update.
i Understand that Lexus is enormously popular in the USA. The styling doesnt really do much for me (I dont like the front and I dont like the back), but when these came out a few years ago the performace was pretty extraordinary for the price and size, and even a diehard XF fan like me wont deny that their reliability will be streets ahead of the Jag. You see plenty of these in Japan, but the bigger Nissans (that we dont get here) look much better, IMO. I dont know whether they ARE better, but they look better, and unfortunately I base almost all of my opinions on appearance.
I love the clean swoopy lines, and must agree that the interior is extremely comfy and luxurious. However, the interior is also due for a refresh as it looks soooo retro! The presentation of the dash is also rather messy and cluttered compared to Mercedes. I have always been a big fan of Lexus they’ve traditionally had the best ride comfort and interiors (the semi aniline leather seats are some of the best I’ve sat on in cars for instance, and quite frankly I couldn’t care less about how many seconds I take to reach 100kmh), however it is time they modernise the interiors a little and offer more exciting options in colours, trim etc – something like BMW Individual. Other carmakers are fast catching up in this respect.
Modernise the interiors
Like the LFA?
I love both the futuristic LFA and the authentic GS interiors. And… unfortunally I won’t own either though.
Oh and woodgrain that actually resembles wood please rather than the plasticky stuff!
I like the look of it. It’s one of the few Toyota group cars that actually look decent, like they have some actual styling sense behind them, without looking like they are from a GTA game.
My problem with Lexus is that the dashboard still manages to look like a 1990s Toyota. Have you seen the digital clock in the IS250? WTF, really, WTF.
interior looks very dated, I’d take a Jag XF turbo diesel over this similair price, performance and fuel economy if no better with out the extra weight and complexity of the motor and batteries.
How does that stack up against an imported premium v36 skyline sedan for $50k to worth its $120K price tag?
that’s right. the Nissan isnt anywhere near as good a car!
Well, it is double the price!….
The official combined for the Lexus GS 450h is 7.9 ADR, but different driving styles will vary the actual consumption dramatically with each and every car.
Yeah but the Jag XF 3.0 Diseasel is 6.8l/100 and only puts out 179 CO2g/km….
And can carry a couple of sets of golf clubs in the boot. Probably be able to fit the surf boards through the boot as well rather than sitting them on your nice leather seats…..
And I reckon (and haven’t found to many that disagree) the Jag has real presence on the road, which is nice when your chatel mortgage payments are that much a month.
However in Qld, even though the Jag is cleaner, because it isn’t a Hybrid you will have to pay 3.5% stamp duty on it……. That’s what a smart state does…..
I’ve got the Jag petrol, and I’m pretty sure you cant fold down the rear seats. And while the boot is great, the apeture (what a spunky word, not sure if it is appropriate) isnt so good – hard to get biggish boxes in. That said, I love it to death, and while I think the Lexus is a great car, I think the Jag is prettier inside and out, and it has a gorgeous ride and a lot of heritage (even though not all of it is good).
You need to experience the hybrid technology in this vehicle to appreciate how good it is. Forget the Prius. This is a Wolf in Sheep’s clothing. I test drove a used one recently but ended up buying the RX Hybrid instead because the boot was too small for my needs. This is a genuinely FASSSST and silent luxury saloon.
If you’re not a badge snob, the Lexus GS450H is actually a bargain once you start to compare it with the euros and their “non-standard” accessories. IMO,this is Japan’s
BMW M5 until the GS-F goes on sale.
depreciation must be savage, looking at a 2007 one today with 38,000kms for $64k driveaway, almost half new price. Amazing list of standard features.
Looking on carsales, all but one are in the high 70s and 80s thousand range, which isn’t too bad. Perhaps this particular seller is after a quick sale?
I think they all lose 20 – 30% per annum the first few years, then level off after that. Between higher lease/hp rates for used, warranty running out, more tricks and treats in new models, also the incentive which was pushing new, it is pretty hard to sell something 2 – 3 years old for more than half. Maybe moreso if you are worried about having to pay for new batteries in these hybrids. I’d have thought $65K for a 3 year old Lexus would be doing pretty well. I’d have thought $50K for a 3 year old $120K car would be doing OK. What’s on carsales or redbook and what people get are two very different things.
Do the same search on used Audi BMW MERC or Jag and its the same if not less. Factor in the silly servicing prices the Euros, the inconsistant reliability and the stupid option pricing and the Lexus just makes more sense. I agree with everyone else on the styling though. ‘Tis bland.
I thought about one of these but wondered whether you get brakes and an accelerator that actually work ? or are those the items you need to option in from the options list LOL.
Anyway lets get real, 0-100 in a “claimed” 5.9 seconds isn’t weapons grade by any realistic stretch of the imagination and judging by Lexus’ previous extremly optimistic performance claims that probably really means mid six second range when reality collides with Lexus “fantasy”.
Ended up with a new FPV F6, now that really is fast !! and the brakes and throttle actually work !!
…and if you go on Fords recall history, tyres that will explode etc etc.
Like all Toyota’s , do we need to ask if the brakes work and is this vehicle subject to a recall?.
Toyota has allegedly sat on a cover up for a decade and murdered up to fifty people in the process.
I like this Lexus. Good size, quality all around, 0-100 in 5.9 sec which is VERY GOOD. 5-10 years ago I would only buy Mercedes,BMW or Audi today….Lexus, Honda or Toyota. German cars in this country overpriced, service cost very high and quality dropped. Keep up the good work Lexus.
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