Ford Falcon ‘Coyote’ V8 spy photos

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By Paul Maric | December 01st, 2009

Ford Performance Vehicles has been spied testing what will be the newest addition to its V8 entourage.

FPV’s current 5.4-litre BOSS V8 is set to be axed in July 2010. FPV spokesman Dave Harding told CarAdvice, “the current BOSS won’t meet Euro IV”, with Ford Australia spokeswoman Sinead McAlary further adding, “FPV has a number of exciting engine advancements to talk about next year but we aren’t providing any further detail at this stage.”

While Ford isn’t willing to officially talk about new engines, CarAdvice can confirm that the new V8, which carries the ‘Coyote’ codename, will be similar to the engine currently being developed for the 2010 Ford Mustang.

Reports from the US suggest the 5.0-litre V8 engine is set to produce some 298kW and over 540Nm of torque. Tweaked variants of the engine (some featuring a 5.8-litre capacity) are said to produce a further 50kW.

The vehicle photographed by Pavle.com.au is fitted with a front car-bra, following on from FPV General Manager, Rod Barrett’s recent statement to the media, “it will be evolution, not revolution, for us next year”. “It’s no secret that we need to change the aesthetics of our car – it has been a few years since we did so.”

In addition to the car-bra, the photographs reveal quad exhaust pipes, replacing Ford’s current dual pipe arrangement.

These photographs come after CarAdvice the exclusive photographs released by CarAdvice earlier this year, picturing a supercharged variant of the Coyote V8.

poohbear

It’s a Falcon with a car bra photograhed through trees.
At least it hides those abhorrent raccoon eyes *vomit* maybe they could have a rear car bra for those over styled rear lights

topdog

At least its not as over stlyed as the new stupid looking hsv try hards

Dayma

ahhhh, couldn’t this just be a pic of some bloke driving his beloved FPV, of which he’s modified the exhaust, and thrown his car-bra on for protection??….
Andrew

It’s got no plates . . . and also it looks better then a normal FG because the car bra covers that ugly font end . . . at least the back looks good.

Joker

Looks like the nay-sayers got up with the co… I mean roosters, this morning.

Ford won’t settle with 298Kw on its FPV’s, that’s for sure. Heck, FPV made the Triton block sit up on its hind legs and juggle in comparrison to what Ford of US did with it.
As for the Raccoon eyes, that comes down to personal taste. Its far easier to like than the E Series 2 but thats just my opinion..Mind you quite a few Holden fans I’ve spoken to agree with me.

Mitch

Its gonna need more than 300kw.
Falc

Dear Caradvice, there is no such thing as a 5.8 litre, as the maximum is 5.4.
Also, the speculation that the “298kW” has 540Nm is very incorrect. It’s closer to 490Nm.

Dear Mitch. It will

TheNameless

Ahh yes there will be a 5.8l. The current bossv8 max is 5.4l
http://www.v8supergeek.com Luke

From Wikipedia article about the new Mustang…
“For the 2011 model year it is anticipated that the 4.6 L V8 will be replaced by a new, 5.0 L DOHC V8 codenamed Coyote. This engine is expected to produce up to 400 bhp (300 kW) and 400 lb·ft (542 N·m) of torque…”

Where exactly did you come up with 490nm?

Falc

Thenameless, there won’t be a 5.8 litre.

Luke, Wiki is always right?

The 400/400 rumour was incorrect to start with, and it was only speculation.

Wazza

Its a 5.0L that can be bored to 5.8L V8.

Andrew

Bring on the return of the 5.0L! Hopefully a hard revving sweet sounding change
Lee

That would be 2011 Mustang.
AB

Sounds good to me. FPV will have a pretty formiddable range of vehicles with this
http://zuboora.com.au Mohamad is right when he

is that a intercooler i see in the front bar?? i hear a supercharger…..

Joker

Mohamad, will def. be supercharged. This is inline with Ford PAG to reduce emissions yet keep power the same or more. Twin Turbo Small Blocks, Supercharged in the Performance wing…no lag with S/C

Tony M

Why would FPV be testing the new 5 litre V8 for Ford Aust? I believe this is the for runner for the GTHO. Supercharged? I’m sure. This motor is at least 50kg lighter than the current 5.4 V8. Small block V8′s love to rev and with a supercharger they will have great acceleration figures. This will be the premium motor so FPV will make sure it gives out figures closer to 350kw and 600nm torque otherwise just go for a turbo 6. Next year might be an interesting year.
ChopstaR87

i would say its the same as now, all the V8s – the Boss 290 and boss 302/315 are developed by FPV and not ford Aust as Ford aust focus on the Inline 6 / inline 6 turbo and soon the ecoboost 4
jp

the two elements that klet down the current boss 5.4 is weight and acceleration down low – thisis when compared against the pushrod of hsv/holden.

The coyote will already address the weight from what i hear is significantly lighter…. can’t wat to see some performance figures in regard to acceleration and power…. but i won’t be hugely disappointed if the droped to 298kw again…. as long as there is significant gains in handling and power to weight. They do however have a task on there hands to retain v8 buyers if they do drop to 298kw as this will put it below the f6 in every aspect!

AB

I heard the 298kw version was for the XR8?

ChopstaR87

what i have heard regards to the engine to be used next year will be:

XR8 – 5.0 Litre V8 with 285Kw and 540Nm (engine will be about 100Kgs lighter)
GT – 5.8 Litre V8 with 335Kw and 580Nm (engine will be about 100Kgs lighter)

so the XR8 may lose some power but it will be lossing wieght as well!

My Cars Called T-Rex

Lets hope the GT-HO will be a 5.8 with a blower punching out 380-400kw

Shak

This should ignite the competition between HSV and FPV more evenly now

JML

I doubt it. The market has moved on. Only bogans buy aussie V8′s now, and bogans will only ever buy Holdens/Daewoos. Ford buyers in general have migrated to Mazda & VW. It doesn’t matter how good Ford V8′s become, nobody’s buying it while it’s got a blue oval on the front.

My Cars Called T-Rex

Nice bit of crap there.

Dougy Smith

Ireckon, a real loser with comments like that. He probably owns a morris minor. Get a life…t-o-s–s-ssser

topdog

Whats this guy on, No idea
ABMPSV

I just would like to see a real statistics on how V8 is sold in this country. Anybody knows?? I can not find anywhere any data not just on V8′s but on normal sales figures. I can get the German car sale data by total and private sales but not here!!!!!!
Joe

What a nob, with no f’cken idea!!

ABMPSV

Have you got any idea how many is sold??

Car Fanatic

No he hasn’t AB, he hasn’t the mental capacity to think beyond Falcommodores

Dougy Smith

Gee these Holden freaks talk through a hole in a brown paper bag that they have exhausted out of their behind…ah. Move on gm FREAKS.

Dougy Smith

Agree, GM freaks is an under statement. How on the earth do they think the Holden cars of the Aussie world are better. Arogent a-s-s-holes eh.!!!

toxic_horse

So i guess sales to bogans are not included in the sales chart.
and bogan money is somehow worth less.
Frank

everyone is entitled to their own opinion but your opinion seems to be on the wrong side. Unless you can prove it with some statistics, expect to get some negative feedback from here.

Ben

Sounds good to me, the new engine is all alloy to Only the ultimate for the GT-HO, a 5.8litre Supercharged version of the V8 with 450 480 kws will do. Bring out the new fpv range with wider tyres to!!!!
Cupid Stunt

Long live the V8. Many said it would die but obvisouly not the case. I’m amazed that so many are knocking it, but that front with the stepped bonnet is way ugly.
Can’t meet Euro 4 is a joke, so many here complain about dirty diesels when in reality they are cleaner than this and perform better.

Andrew M

Cleaner in what way????

Sure diesels might kill less trees or whatever the huggers go on about, but diesels can be linked to killing more humans due to the much higher levels of toxic stuff they put out responsible for diseases such as cancer

yeah diesels are better for the environment, but they are worse for our health…….Euro 4 doesnt factor in human health standards does it???

If you want what I believe is the better all round fuel, go LPG.

Car Fanatic

Diesel kills more humans? Well the Nox given off by diesel might be greater than a petrol engine but your claims are still quite wild. I mean Australia and the U.S ( both low Diesel car countries) Have a much higher incidence of cancer than France, UK and Germany who all have high percentage of Diesel ownership and have done so for many years. Obviously Diesel is not the major cause of cancer in these countries otherwise they would rate much higher than us and America.

70′sDatsun

Wow Car Fanatic an expert on cancer causes and statistics now, you should work for CSIRO, brilliant logic there. You are ignorant mixed with plain old dumb.
Andrew M

Well do you also have stats of how many trees are killed in europe versus trees killed in US and AUS (the unleaded heavy nations).

So you do agree about diesel fumes putting out more stuff thats bad for our health???
Your example of Cancer stats is flawed because there are so many factors other than Diesel fumes that affect the stats.
I mean its not just diesel fumes that cause cancer in the same way its not just cars that emmitt Co2.
Are smoking rates higher or lower in Europe?
Is sun exposure higher or lower in Europe? (thats an obvious one)

My point is everyone is so busy flaunting the “it saves trees” line, yet neglects the health issue.
In reality, yes, maybe diesels dont have that big of an impact on peoples health, but the reality on the flip side is that diesels impact on health couldnt be any less that unleaded cars impact on the environment
sam

pretty sure NOx’s aren’t even implicated in cancer… i think cancer is more to do with aromatic hydrocarbons… going to be produced if combustion is not complete, probably more likely in diesel engines
croozza

A few facts about diesels.

1. You cannot gas yourself with a diesel like you can with a petrol motor.
2. Diesel in a car is pointless, there is no real benefit in either fuel consumption or costs, leave the diesel for real 4wd’s and trucks.

Now I love my V8′s both in petrol and the diesel, but it can only be petrol in a car.

Snowy

Radical dude
ford crazy

hey holden owners and hsv drivers ,just remember your all a pack of wingers and wankers ,going ford is the going things so jam it !!!!new ford v8 mmmmm 300+ kw and more to come from fpv !!!!!!just wait and see!!!!!!!!haaaaa see you holdens in the rear vision mirror

Ben

hahaha lol bloody oth, stick it to em!!! Go the blue oval!!! FORD POWER BABY!!!! The GT will not be considered a slug anymore(its only afew tenths slower anyway)

Chilliman

Specs on the 5.0Litre Coyote for the 2011 Model year Mustang GT are due to be released this Friday at the L.A. Auto show. Ford have already officially confirmed the 2011 Mustang V6 specs – 227Kw/380Nm from a 3.7Litre V6. Other Mustang news is that they will come with 6-speed transmissions (auto & manual). Most of the speculation on the 5.0Litre V8 is still around 300Kw/540Nm – this is likely to be the spec that Falcon XR8 will get.

As for FPV, they’ve been doing alot of work with Eaton (superchargers)lately. The story earlier in the year about a supercharged FPV Falcon that could be the next GTHO was a little off track. It won’t be for GTHO…..all FPV V8′s will be supercharged – might as well change their name to ‘FORCE-FED PERFORMANCE VEHICLES’!
Look for a starting figure of around 330Kw with a meaty Ayers Rock-like torque curve.

If GTHO is ever to be resurrected, FPV would be looking at the twin-turbo EcoBoost version of Coyote (code-named RoadRunner) to slot under the hood. It is rummoured to have dyno’ed at over 600hp (450Kw) in testing.

Deco

I doubt 540nm of torque.

Chilliman

At first I thought so too, but its been nearly a year since that torque figure was first floated and the grapevine has consistently stayed around that figure (in a range from 540 – 545Nm). The 490Nm figure some one mentioned is actually for the lower spec F-series version which will come out with around 270Kw/490Nm.

Once you read the spec sheet of the Coyote V8 with features such as the torque-enhancing Twin Infinately Variable Camshaft Timimg (Ti-VCT)and friction reducing Direct Acting Mechanical Buckets (DAMB)the 500-plus Nm figure doesn’t seem like such a stretch, especially considering the Lexus 5.0Litre V8 in the IS-F already pumps out over 300Kw and 500Nm. The Lexus engine is tuned more for high end power with 311Kw/505Nm while Ford will tune Coyote for a more muscle-car like V8 experience with extra low down torque.

quiet observer

what are friction reducing Direct Acting Mechanical Buckets and how do they work? and the torque-enhancing Twin Infinately Variable Camshaft Timimg mean that they can set any cam timing they want?

Falc

No ECOBOOST for the V8s. And Roadrunner is purely n/a.

The torque figures “floating” around back then showed the F150 had more torque than that for the Mustnag GT, but with less power.

Anyhow, only a couple of sleeps to go before we know what it is they’ll be punching out. I hope you’re right and I’m wrong.

ChopstaR87

there is a Ecoboost V8 under development for the next GT500 to replace the supercharged 5.4l V8, they are looking at a Twin Turbo 5.0 – 5.8 V8 to have aleast 403Kw ( same as current GT500 ) to arrive late 2010 – early 2011

Falc

You read it on the internet, so it must be true?

There is no Ecoboost V8. Period.

ChopstaR87

why is your word the final word on this?? it is under development by Ford US…. most people know there is twin turbo V8 in the pipe line and has been for a while!!
Falc

Because I’ve bothered to read up on what is actually happening, and not believe everything the media puts out. The ecoboost V8 was talked about in early 2008, then there was a change of direction, and Coyote will not be developed to take twin turbo. The direction that was taken is called Bobcat. Look it up, there’s plenty of info. Bobcat incorporates technologies that supersede what Ecoboost represents; in other it’s the next step above ecoboost.

Then, a couple of weeks ago one of the US media sites claims that Coyote will have TT, and that it is an ecoboost V8, so everybody, including you, believe them.

And, because Wheels Mag said Coyote will be stroked to 5.8 litre, so of course, many people believe them, because Wheels never make mistakes. It is impossible to stroke this to 5.8 litres as it has the same deck height as the 4.6, but very thin cylinder walls. This means, after calculations, maximum capacity is 5.4. Having thin cylinder walls also, consequently, means NO twin turbo for Coyote.

Cheers.

quiet observer

a meaty ayers rock torque curve? ha love it!

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arnt ford also doing a over haul on the i6T for ero specs so they can be imported in uk
Ben

Yeah ive heard that news bout fpv workin woth eaton aswell, n itd be likely they just might slap a supercharger on every V8 model, god im lovin it!!! Now this is just a rumour ive heard, but its been said on ford forum site that the 2010 inline 6 maybe all alloy aswell, while still having the same size engine. Does anyone know if this is true?? or is it just all hype?. Id like to see the return of the 5.8/351 badge on the side of a new GT/GT-P/GT-E or dare I say GT-HO. Roll on July 2010 I reckon. N wider rims!!! we want wider rims for better traction!!! N i think we are gonna need em lol
Deco

Interesting times ahead with this engine and dare I say, GM’s response to the Coyote.

Chilliman

The first few snippets of GM’s next V8 (hence Holden/HSV’s next V8) are starting to come to the surface. So far details are scant but the few details that have come to light are the the ‘Generation 5′ V8 will displace 5.5Litres (335Cu. In.), come direct injection but will still be based on the current push-rod small block Chevy.

The engine will have a debut of sorts next year as a ‘race only’ engine powering Corvettes in the American LeMans series. Expect the production version to hit the streets sometime in 2012. Power figures being mooted thus far are 336Kw/613Nm.

What Holden/HSV/GM will do in the mean time is anyones guess, but given the cash strapped nature of GM at the moment I don’t expect any major changes.

Justin

I just hope that the XR6T gets a sweet facelift come october-ish next year, as that’s when i’ll be getting one. Fingers crossed for dual exhausts.
ABMPSV

Where this crazy kW power war ends. What you need is a good balance between power engine size and weight and you got a good car. Where you would you use 300,400 or 500kW??? Not in this country in Germany maybe.

Jack

Good point, the power war got itself in trouble and ended the 1st muscle car era. (And gave those vehicles immortality)

The simple truth is that virtually no driver uses the peak Kw of their car all that often. That’s why low down torque is so important, and diesels, V8s and the Inline 6 are such wonderful motors…

Mark

KWs are just bragging rights. Its so when a HSV GTS owner gets flogged at the lights by a XR6t they can still say awww well i still have more power at 325kw compared to 270kw.

Rick

Ha, the discerning HSV Driver would not even drag at the lights (it’s illegal) – they would suggest you go to the track and then you would see the XR6T for what it is – a cheap car with great straightline grunt that would get flogged by several seconds by the HSV – no contest, no comparison, nothing more certain!

Philthy

How will all that extra plastic make it go any faster than the ford around a track?

ChopstaR87

the the XR6T driver would then say… is that 2-7 sec victory worth the extra 30-40K??? lol!

Mark

I thought the xr6t still kicks the hsv around a track because it is lighter, has more grunt and handles better… ? its also half the price of the hsv

Skep

Should we start a petition for the GTHO to have 265 front tyres and 295 rears. If they persist with the current WRX tyres on insipid wheels they will get thrashed at Bathurst by the riceys and will have shamed the GTHO legend.

Are you listening Mr Barrett? When you keep adding power and the car doesnt go any faster you have to address a physics dynamic named ‘grip’ – everyone else has..
Ben

yeah i agree with skep, we need wider set tires, dont bother goin to 20s with the F6 n GT, yeah put em on the upper market cars but we wnat em wider, im pretty sure they have stayed the same width since fpv first started way back in 2003. Mr Barret say its goin to be a evolution not a revolution, then spend a lil more time on setting the car up for better traction n grip. We know that come around July next year use will have the engines to do(love that the F6 is Australias muscle car king, thats right it is n use no it) just dnt let it down with weak skinny tire.
Ben

when i say upper market I mean F6E and GT-P n GT-E.
RAVEEN

2010 looks like a ripper of a year for FPV,and I cant WAIT! to see what the new range will hold. abosolutley cant!.Probs be called FG2? or MkII? FG2 looks better :L
one things for bloody sure, so sure ts obviuous, The new V8 will have more than 315 kw.Maybe somehwere in the vecinity of 330-335? Thats what i heard anyway…plus in terms of NM the new engine should give atleast 560-600 ATLEAST.

And I wonder whatll happen to the FG2 F6, in terms of engine output.

ahh well time shall tell.

BLEED BLUE BABY!
Don

here are some funny things

5.4L Barra 220 V8 making 220kW at 4750rpm and 472Nm from 3250-4000rpm 4 speed auto

5.4L Boss 315 V8 making 315kW at 6500rpm and 551Nm at 4750rpm 6 speed auto

when both doing a roll start from 60-120km/h the 5.4L 3V Barra 220 with just 220kW keeps up right next to it on the way to 120km/h and some 5 or 6 seconds after 120km/h till the BOSS 315 reaches 180 and finally displaces itself some 3-5 car lengths away.

Can somebody explain this to me?

there is 95kW difference and 69Nm difference between the two.

The 5.0L Coyote will make 307kW and around 530Nm , torque available across the entire RPM range, even more responsive than any V8 so far.

Some say that it might make 298kW and 490Nm when optioned for standard XT with 6 speed auto.

Others say it will be upped up a little to 307kW for XR8 while GT-P will be renamed to GT-HO and will be a supercharged version at 375kW others say a single Turbo 414kW and some other people said TWIN-TURBO 5.0L V8.

?

anybody any ideas?

please post some.

thanks
Troy

LOVE THE FORDS

GTHO……………LEGEND!!!!!!!!!

DON…. power to weight ratio!!!
http://caradvice Nik

That car will be one sweet ride, but why do all the holden fans come onto these websites?? is it because they are that jealous that ford has decided to go up a step and drop in a supercharger on a better engine. And every one thinks (holden fans) that the fg is over styled, i mean look at holdens hsv, it is extremely over styled, absolutely everything is over styled. so here coming from a ford fan, we dont want to hear your crap, holden fans, go to some other site which cares..