good value, well specced, well laid out car for a family of 3 or 4 kids..with good safety, fuel economy, reliability, handling..
My God, it looks HORRID! It belongs in 1989 not 2009…
Certainly is a unique looking vehicle. It is good to see a people mover which isn’t the size of a small bus for once I must admit. AWD and boxer engine is a pretty good point of difference from the rest of the competition too. I think I’d buy and Odyssey over this though.
I can never understand why AWD systems add so much desirability to a car in Australia. In a country locked in drought, and a market where most cars are now offered with ESP as standard the extra expense can’t really be justified. Now if I lived in Europe and I had snow to deal with for 3 months of the year i’d probably take a different view.
Have you driven a car with AWD? The handling is brilliant and much safer than a FWD people mover which would understeer. Most people would never meet the limits of AWD on the road which is the reason it is so safe. The dynamics of the drive is also far beyond anything else non-awd.
I think the exiga looks good, the front end is better than the liberty and its a unique and quirky car in a way only subaru can do.
No he hasn’t driven one, can’t you tell. I drove a mates bog standard 2.5 Libety 05 sedan several months ago. Wasn’t really doing anything for me but it was well kitted. I had just about made up my mind that it was nothing special when we arrived at the Galsston gorge. He said I know you think it feels gutless but give it all you got up the gorge.
Well I have to say, by the time I got to the top of the gorge I had a smile on my face. Yes it was gutless but it handled like few other cars I had ever driven. Since then I have driven several new models of Subaru and the AWD is awesome. You don’t need a powerful car to enjoy a good drive, just AWD and lots of bends.
not all of australia is flat and in a desert, some places are actually very wet and have lots of hills.
looks better in person than in photos, and is cheaper and better specced and has awd over the odyssey!! people movers are not really designed to win beuaty awards anyway they are a functional family device!
I would gladly trade the DVD entertainment unit for the 7th center seat + a 3pointed seat belt…
Oddsey, Tarago, Corolla, Yaris, Mazda 2, and countless other cars in the Japanese market have center 2 pointed seat belt… and all they do is just to add 3pointed ones afterward for overseas market…
WHY can’t Subaru a big car manufacture do the same?? Even Protons managed with their Satria thing…
Agreed Jon, I would consider looking past the funny looks if it had 3 seats in the middle row.
I want 7 seats with the option to remove the centre or either of the rear seats.
On top of that, how about a diesel option?
Just one question – WHY? Predict that model life will be 2 years tops.
Well its back to the future 1980’s style , what is the point of this car , reminds me of a rexton .
What is happening in subaru , i loved the look of the superceded models , smooth style, if a little plastic inside .
New liberty ugly , outback no ruggedness ,looks too much like a city car , and now this a van .
I’d take an odyssey over this. Inside and out, Odyssey beats it for style and quality imo.
I’m gobsmacked at the attitude of Subaru Australia.
They don’t want to compromise on “5 star safety across the range”.
Rather than bother with getting the engineering done to put a 3 point harness in the middle – what the hey, let’s just rip the seat out!
That isn’t clever, it’s lazy and will rightly cost them sales.
-1 for Subaru Oz.
Simon, Subaru Australia is little more than an importer. Not only do they not have the resources to re-engineer the middle seat restraint, the volume of potential sales would never justify it.
In actual fact being a 6 seater actually puts it in a unique marketing poition which will be quite positive.
I hear you DE but am not convinced. Anyway, time will tell how successful this is.
My god that is ugly
Looks like a Stagea, i like it. Second best people mover ive ever seen, and it’s cooler than an Odyssey so it puts it to number one on my list.
Now wheres that turbo…
P.S. why do you NEED that extra one seat?
P.S.S. You people keep asking why?… what a stupid question. Why do any manufacturers come out with any new cars that are at all different from the other ones?….
its as gumby looking as every other subaru.
it looks awkward and retarded?
extra seat needed as this is a PEOPLE MOVER. more seats…… u know….
and u think this is cooler than an odyssey…. seriously?
a yaris is cooler than any people mover
Looks good on the inside. I with most here, should have made the 2nd row 3 seats.
Why could they not based this on an extended Outback platform? The Outback looks good.
Ugly as a hatful…With a gutless 2.5 litre they probably didn’t go with the 7th seat as it would have the speed of a barge fully loaded!
Anyway probably being a little harsh, after all it’s just another utilitarian people mover.
Slot in the 3.6L 6 cylinder boxer in and I’ll seriously consider it…
As far as I can see, you’d be mad to buy one of these over a C4 Picasso. For a start, the Citroen has proved itself reliable. I buy a lot of car magazines and many of them have done long term tests on the C4 Picasso. I think only one of them had a problem and it was something like a broken switch on the dashboard. It was fixed quickly within warranty, so no problems. The C4 gets good user reviews too.
Add in the fact that you can get a nice strong diesel engine, an extra seat, a nicer looking interior, a much better looking and much classier exterior and some quirks to keep you interested and you’ve got an excellent family car. It doesn’t really cost any more either. The only plusses I can see with the Exiga is the AWD system, but the pros of the Citroen far out-do the pros of the Subaru.
You’d have to really want that AWD system and really hate French cars.
But Alex it will still be a Citroen regardless how you talk it up, and in Aus that could be social suicide – even you Mum wouldn’t talk to you. Now if it was just the Mother-in-law then maybe the Citroen might just have a case.
What? Why would having a Citroen be social suicide? They’re hardly embarrassing and they look excellent. They’re much better than many things that do well here (such as Subarus), so why would they have a bad image?
Because its a citroen Alex. There reputation in Aust is of being weird,
querky,with poor resale value and well…..it’s French
and the award for keyboard warrior wanna be jeremy clarkson goes to blitz
No opinions on the Interior CarAdvice? What did you think of the qualify and finish of the interior dash etc. looks like a cross betweeen the liberty an Impreza parts
Nice specs and interior, but it’s a shame that it only has 6 seats – Subaru you have just lost one customer.
I will go for a Peugeot 308 wagon than the Exiga which I had very high expectation of when I first heard of the car at the start of the year with the spec it has.
My opinion will be that 7-seater will be a better option than going with a 6-seater. I agree with some of the people here that Subaru is really slack in bringing this 6-seater in now. My thought is that they want to bring the car in to suck the first lot of buyers in to buy the car (not sure 50-75 is a big ask or not), and then a year or so later when they could finally bring the 7-seater to Oz, then all the people who bought the 6-seater will feel they simply got cheated which they could of bought a 7-seater instead, and the 2nd hand market on such ridiculous 6-seater will be pretty low valued.
What is the real use to buy a car with +1 seat more than a Liberty (then again Liberty look sucks, and all recent Subaru designs). For buyers who are buying the brand then, may as well buy Liberty with just standard 5 seats.
Come’on Subaru, you are not aiming the niche market like BMW do with their X6 series. You are aiming at small to medium family that wanted a 7-seater that is alot slimmer.
Subaru Oz, you lost me too who are after a 7-seater.
For guy’s down on the missing 7th seat, there’s gotta be an aftermarket possibility to redo the middle seat right? A workmate was able to add extra seatbelts legally to an old toyota camry, why not for the exiga as well? (granted you need to find a way to pad the base of the middle seat).
Any experts in the industry know if the aftermarket option is possible?
In order to legally add seat belts, you have to go though federal government as the metal plate issued by the Vehicles importers/manufacturer under the motor vehicle standard act 1989 (or whatever its called)inside the engine bay with the VIN no. clearly stats the No. of seats on the car.
Therefore you must get some sort of workshop or some one who can reissue another plate on behalf of the Government.
If you have an accident and have more passenger then the plate allows, your insurance company will not pay out, and you will be in deep trouble.
Spoke to an RTA certified engineer, and its possible to get a seatbelt (and even an anchor point) for the middle row. The base requirement (among other things) to qualify for an adult seat is at least 40cm width, which the Exiga would surely qualify since its a 7 seater in Japan.
The concerns about insurance is valid, but as long as you disclose everything, and have the mod actually certified and approved (you get a new green slip with details saying its now capable of 7 seats legally), then everything should be okay. If not, shop for another insurance provider.
So, I may get an Exiga after all!
How did they get away with using a ripoff of Lotus’s model name?
There’s so much overlap anyway, especially with the brands which use letters and numbers. There’s probably not going to be much, if any confusion between the Lotus Exige and Subaru Liberty Exiga. If this was the name of the new Subaru sportscar, it might be different.
Exiga sounds like a very useful car…price is reasonable. It won’t be that bad for a family car.
For a 5 person family its useless, as you would put the third child in the 3rd row and lose half your luggage space. It may suit 4 person families though who need the occasional extra 2 seats.
We have current model Honda Odyssey and very happy (only downside is anchor points in ceiling for middle row child seats).
When we saw Exiga at the Melbourne motor show before buying Odyssey, seriously considered buying instead of Odyssey – AWD and Subaru safety reputation, however once it was announced it would only be imported to Aust as a 6 seater, bought the Odyssey.
Why does Subaru continue to make ugly big cars, I wish they would revisit a FORESTER similar to 2000 version but perhaps 70-100mm wider, not higher.
Hmmm – right price, ugly car, bad re-sale – who would want a 2nd row with 2 seats only? We currently have one of the older (boxier) ML350’s with folding, removable full-size 3rd row seats and we’ve found them perfect for our occassional need for 6th and 7th passengers. Still looking for the perfect replacement with the flexibility of our current car but with better fuel economy and less maintenance costs.
Well, I’ve been a Subaru driver for some time mainly using Liberty Wagon Premium.
I was just about to leave the manufacturer because of the lack of increased space in the boot area. I couldn’t believe that Subaru can come out with a whole new platform to give greater space internally but totally forget about increased space in the luggage area.
I’m taking a second look now that the Exiga is here due to the fact that the layout gives quite a bit of additional space when the third seats are down. This is my primary purchase factor, I won’t buy it as a people mover more so a Subaru that has increaded space in the luggage area. If only the seats laid totally flat without that slight uphill look!
My wife and I are looking for another car to replace her RAV, as we are expecting vermin number 4, and I can assure that’s it, we will not be having another, so we only need 6 seats, as we won’t allow our kids to have friends :). The interior looks perfect for us.
Now I own a 2005 3.0RB 6sp 180kw Liberty wagon and I couldn’t be more happy with it’s performance and styling.
HOWEVER, I look with dismay at the styling of ALL the current model Subaru’s and they just make my stomach churn..Brilliant engineering for sure, but call me shallow, I have to like the styling of my car..if it ressembles Noddy’s car, I’m not interested.
What did they do to the Liberty’s?? Seriously, I’m sure it’s technically improved and probably better to drive, but what a tragic crime to replace the previous models styling for current one…When I saw it for the first time, I just thought, Subaru’s done it again, like what they did to the WRX with the bug eyed version..(mind you the new one isn’t any better)
Then they bring this Exiga to us…WOW it has got all the style of a 90’s Mitsubishi Nimbus..Okay, say you can get past the horrid looks, then you are expectedto deal 123kw and Automatic and 1600kg …Just because you have kids doesn’t mean you suddenly don’t like to drive!
I might not sound like it, but I’m very PRO Subaru. When they get it right, they really get it right, but when they get it wrong, man they get it wrong. I think the concept is good, but the excution was terrible…I agree with some of the above posts…it’ll have a 2 year model life span. An optional 3.6 engine or 2.5 Turbo would make a lot of sense (if you can get in without before feeling sick at the sight of it).
Please Subaru, sack your styling department!
I’ve bought the Exiga for my family, the classic three kids+dog, 2 of the kids in child seats aSchulzch the 6 seater is perfect. The car handles well, albeit a little more body roll than in I would ideally like.
The configuration works well. The lack of cargo space is an issue, and if the roof bars ever arrive that will be a short lived problem at that.
It is a comfortable drive for all occupants, which us more often than not missed for the kids.
Why so much concern about a 7th seat?
Most cars on the road have seats for 5 so this one has one more than the standard
I have bought one and I am very satisfied.
I have 2 children in child seats and sometimes have the need to transport 2 extra adults.It does this well.
It has all you need and can sit six adults in comfort.
Any car sitting three adults abreast cannot do this in comfort.
If you need 7 seats buy a bus
can it really seat 6 adults?
Design is bad, engine is average, service expensive, fuel economy is below average..etc Japanese cars lost it in the last 5 years. Now European cars are better.
i forgot to point out the reason for picking this car over the better looking odyssey. The car seats which the children under 7 years old have to now sit in, can be connected to the rear of the seat rather than the roof like in the odyssey. This allows you the ability to slide the seat forward without undoing the childseat restraints. A big plus when you want to get kids in and out of the back row of seats.
yes its an ugly car lol
Has anyone got roof rails fitted yet?
this is the only thing stopping me from buying the vehicle.
ive ordered my car now that they have roof cross bars. Ive only got to wait 40 days now.
@Ratdog – I ordered roof bars for my Exiga but before they were fitted I discovered that they are the same old Thule ones that clamp onto the door frame. I cancelled the order, as these only have a 50Kg carrying capacity. What I want is the same kinds fitted to other models – that run the length of the vehicle.
Hi All, I just bought this car and it is brilliant for a people mover. The room is impressive and so are the features. One of the deciding factors was the ride and handling, especially the third row seat. Our family have tried nearly all the people movers on the market, including the Europeans. We got the thumbs up from my parents, my gangly teenage son and the little ones. What made it different was it did not have wobbliness in that back that could make you carsick. The Exiga handled this excellently with it’s sure-footedness. With it’s huge rear windows that provides natural light and excellent views. All this for half the price of a European. The all wheel drive is a delight, with incredible traction in the wet. At freeway speeds it is a fantastic cruiser with all onboard. With the regards to the second row to turn it into a three seater, I did voice my issue with Subaru. I did find a work around, I contacted a Japanese parts reseller on the Internet who forwarded me the Parts drawings. Had a quick glance, need to spend my time to properly assess this, but it could be done. A consideration is the possible voiding of the manufacturers warranty. All the parts are genuine Subaru. As an earlier response indicated, best to check with your local authorities to before committing and a certifying automotive engineer to be safe.
Purchased an Exiga in February 2009 and it has to be the best car I have ever owned. We are an older couple and certainly appreciate the comfortable seats and arm rests. We chose the Premium Model with GPS and reversing camera, don’t use the GPS much as we do not travel to the major cities much but the reversing camera is great in shopping centres. We live in an area which sees a lot of rain during summer and the AWD is excellent here.I like that the passenger second row doesn’t have a 7th seat as the seats are a bit wider and more comfortable and the seats all fold down to give a valuable amount of room should you need it to transport items. I think this car would be excellent for a family with 4 children and the DVD player would be great for entertainment during trips. Fuel economy is excelent. Overall a great car.