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Subaru Liberty Review

September 9, 2009 by Alborz Fallah  




2010 (MY10) Subaru Liberty Review

2010 Subaru Liberty

It was back in 1954 that Subaru produced its first car, now some 55 years later, the once small and unrecognised brand has become a powerhouse for producing reliable and good performing vehicles.

2010 Subaru Liberty

Subaru has done exceptionally well of late, so much so that it even outsold Mazda, month on month, in the United States for the first time ever recently. In August this year, Subaru Australia sold 2602 cars and came in ninth overall in the national sales tally.

2010 Subaru Liberty

But what makes a Subaru a Subaru? Although the styling has been questionable in recent times, the Japanese brand has got its formula right with the launch of the fifth generation Liberty, known as Legacy in other markets, in Australia this week.

2010 Subaru Liberty

As a model that first came to light back in 1989, so far more than 130,000 of the Liberty model have been sold and there is no sign of that slowing down.

2010 Subaru Liberty

In order to launch the new generation Liberty and Outback, Subaru took a group of automotive journalists out to Daylesford in central Victoria to test the ins and outs of what will surely be the best Liberty to date.

2010 Subaru Liberty

To start with, lets come clean, the styling is questionable for some, although photos really don’t do it justice.

The new Liberty is a good looking car, but it was always going to be a big challenge to improve on the previous generation, which seemed to have it almost completely right in the looks department.

As a car, it certainly stands out and that was one of the aims of the new design, to have more road presence and attract buyers away from its Japanese rivals.

2010 Subaru Liberty

Along with the new shape, longer, wider and higher stance, there is now a 3.6-litre engine, taken from the Tribeca, that replaces the 3.0-litre.

Subaru has dropped the Liberty GT Spec B for now but will offer a standard 2.5-litre turbocharged GT variant for the enthusiast. It will also offer a sports version of the naturally aspirated 2.5-litre, now called Liberty 2.5i S.

2010 Subaru Liberty

Unlike some manufacturers that like to create Sport variants by adding a body kit and not much else, Subaru has taken its sporting heritage seriously. The Liberty S variants get sports tuned Bilstein suspension, carbon fibre dashboard and door trim highlights, xenon headlights, 18-inch wheels and of course, sports bumper and grille.

The naturally aspirated sport variants are only available with the company’s all new Lineartronic continuously variable transmission (CVT).

2010 Subaru Liberty

One the biggest criticisms of Subaru has always been a lack of good automatic gearboxes with four-speed automatics still in use. Thankfully Fuji Heavy Industries (Subaru’s parent company) has heard the call and built an entirely new transmission system.

As far as CVT transmissions go, almost all major car companies have now had a go, most notably the Europeans who started the trend some time ago.

2010 Subaru Liberty

Subaru says its CVT is similar to that of Audi’s but is completely built by Subaru in Japan, apart from the chains, which come from Germany.

For those of you who are unaware, CVT is a completely different type of transmission compared to your usual automatic. For a start, there are no real gear-sets, but two belts that produce an infinite number of ratios as the transmission adjusts while you drive.

2010 Subaru Liberty

This is great for fuel economy as you’re no longer ever in need of a longer or shorter gear. However given the infinite range of ratios available, in some cases CVT transmissions can take the edge away from the driving experience, but not so with Subaru.

The company decided that in order to stay sporty and provide a good feel to its owners, the CVT was to be programmed to behave similarly to a standard automatic gearbox.

This means when manual mode is used, via either the steering-wheel mounted paddles or the central gearlever, pre-programmed ratios  are selected, and although there could have been 60, it made sense to stick with six ratios.

2010 Subaru Liberty

By using the pre-programmed ratios, you can drive the new Liberty or Outback essentially the same as a manual or traditional auto, so you can engine brake using the gears and the revs increase as you accelerate (as oppose to staying the same while the ratios change).

Sound a little too complicated? No need to worry, it does all the work for you like a standard auto, only better, and it would take a real car enthusiast to even realise there is a CVT transmission in use!

The only limitation with the new transmission is that it currently can’t take the extra torque produced by the 2.5-litre turbocharged engine or the 3.6-litre engine so for now it’s only available on the naturally aspirated 2.5i.

2010 Subaru Liberty

To get the maximum volume of cars to the most buyers, Subaru will focus on four different types of Liberty for its customers in this segment.

Those after a flexible model can opt for the 2.5i or the 2.5i premium. If you’re after something more sporty the already mentioned GT and the 2.5iS fill the gap. Versatility is provided by the soon to arrive Liberty Exiga six-seater, whilst the recreational and more adventurous types would go for the Subaru Outback.

2010 Subaru Liberty

Technicalities aside, lets take a closer look at the new Liberty. The more notable change is the increase in rear-seat legroom, it now feels as big as a Ford Falcon on the inside and can easily and comfortably seat five adults for long distances.

Cargo space has been improved in both sedan and wagon variants while overall dimensions have increased in all respects. Not surprisingly, the weight has also increased, yet the fuel consumption has decreased!

2010 Subaru Liberty

The standard 2.5-litre has gone down from 9.4 litres per 100 kilometres to 8.4L/100km and CO2 emissions has also improved by nine to 12 per cent depending on variant.

The 2.5-litre engine remains relatively unchanged from the previous generation, apart from the addition of lighter pistons and better cooling.

2010 Subaru Liberty

The arrival of the new 3.6-litre engine also gives the Liberty range a new perspective, now powered by an engine that can easily match that of the local offerings, the 3.6-litre Liberty has great pulling power and serves as a more refined family orientated alternative to the turbocharged GT.

Speaking of the new 2.5-litre turbocharged GT, Subaru have changed the position of the turbocharger, it now sits closer to the exhaust (it’s energy source), the Japanese engineers made the change to create a more logical and efficient design.

2010 Subaru Liberty

Furthermore a bigger intercooler has been installed, allowing for full boost to be achieved in two seconds instead of three. The GT goes from 0-100km in 6.2 seconds, or 6.3sec for the manual, and it will do the 400 metre sprint in 14.4 seconds.

Heading out from Lakehouse resort in Daylesford, I took the Liberty GT and the 2.5i Sports for a spin around the country roads.

2010 Subaru Liberty

The easiest way to tell that you’re in a Subaru is the feel of being grounded thanks to the company’s symmetrical all-wheel drive.

Handling is improved thanks to the redesigned suspension, the rear set-up is now more similar to that of the Impreza and Forester allowing for better cornering ability.

During our test we had nothing but moderate to heavy rain, which as Subaru Australia managing director Nick Senior said, was the perfect weather to appreciate the car’s all-weather capabilities.

2010 Subaru Liberty

Perhaps the only criticism I could mention regarding handling and driving dynamics is Subaru’s slightly intrusive Electronic Stability Control (ESC) or as Subaru terms it VDC, which tends to kick in a little early. It can of course be turned off if you want to chance your luck.

Some have wrongly criticised Subaru for sticking with the all-wheel-drive system, arguing that front-wheel drive would suffice while providing better fuel efficiency.

The Japanese manufacturer has debunked these claims, the new Liberty and Outback are still driven through all wheels but now provide better fuel efficiency than the majority of their competitors. Mainly thanks to engine refinement and the new CVT.

2010 Subaru Liberty

So far as the interior goes my biggest criticism of Subaru still stands, while it’s built great cars for the last 20 or so years, it continues to be let down by its interiors.

The use of hard plastics is still common place and even in the top of the range GT models, the interior’s otherwise classy look and feel is tarnished as a result. To make up for it, the GT premium comes with a McIntosh sound system and can be optioned with satellite navigation, Bluetooth and leather trimmed seats.

Safety wise Subaru stands as the only car company in the Australian market that has a five-star ANCAP safety rating for all its cars, other brands have five-star safety ratings across the range but some models may have been tested in Europe.

2010 Subaru Liberty

With the addition of the driver’s knee airbag, the fifth generation MY10 Liberty now has seven airbags. Active safety features include VDC which encompasses ESC, TCS, brake assist, ABS, EBD and more.

I can rave on about the car’s safety but it would be easier if you just watched this video of the Subaru Outback crash test, Outback is based on the Liberty.

Additionally, as a family car, it’s hard to argue with the all-wheel-drive system, it’s just much more sensible to pick a Liberty over its competitors for that reason alone.

Overall it’s hard to fault the new Liberty, it’s a solid performer as it has always been. However I suspect the styling may take some time to be appreciated by the masses.

2010 Subaru Liberty

CarAdvice will be putting the new Liberty through our Road Test regime in the near future so stay tuned.

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60 Responses to “Subaru Liberty Review”
  1. darren says:

    Having seen these in the flesh last weekend, they are an aggressive awesome looking car, for some reason none of the current Subaru’s look good in pictures, before u judge it wait till u see in in the metal.

  2. Jake02 says:

    I bought an MY00 Liberty wagon (in 2000 obviously) and it was a FANTASTIC car. Only the fact that the clutch was continually being eaten up (not in warranty either :S) and that I wanted a few more toys was why I got a new car. The new Liberty isn’t as much of an all-rounder though. I drove the base 2.5i on the weekend (thats all the dealer had) and its so friggin soft (so unlike my old 2.0litre base model GX)! Next car, I reckon Skoda (NOT Subaru) will get my money, for the second time.

    This Liberty looks so confused too. The interior I give the thumbs up, but the exterior…well…ugghhh! The headlights…(need I say more?) and the tailights (if you cover the middle part with your finger) are all Accord V6 (saloon) and Laguna Estate (wagon). The wagon has no roof rails (its a wagon – you’re meant to carry crap) and I hope you can get different wheels because they make the car look somewhat depressed :(

    I’m sure it drives really well (in the GT) and its comfortable but I’m not sure too many will look at the face and think mmmmmmmm thats good looking…

  3. Captain Mainwaring says:

    The outgoing model was one of the crispest-looking wagons available, and sold largely on that factor. Now that it’s been replaced by a bloat-mobile with a CVT transmission, the all wheel drive chassis and wonderfully compliant suspension won’t be enough to maintain its position as one of the most desired cars on the market. So sad.

    • trackdaze says:

      Spot on. The previous liberty was like a well tailored suit and sold well because of it. nice clean lines, proportionatly just right. Now? Why does every new model (any brand)have to gain a ridiculous amount of height?

      A bit slow on the transmission technology subaru. So much so CVT’s have been superceeded by dual clutch manuals as the way to go. No problems managing the torque of the hipo models either just ask porsche.

      • MrQuick says:

        All new cars are getting higher because of ridiculous pedestrian safety regulations.

        Car bonnet lines and waistlines are being raised, and in order to get to the back into proportion again, the roofline is raised and you end up with this tall looking car.

        BMW addressed this issue with Chris Bangle’s flamesurfacing designs, but at the end of the day, get used to it, all mass produced cars are going to conform.

        Subaru is generally slow on most tech. They haven’t addressed engine efficiency either very well, and aren’t moving towards DI very quickly.
        The CVT box on this doesn’t seem too bad actaully, but at the end of the day it still is a CVT.
        Don’t think its a great point bringing up Porsche PDK boxes, they tend to make cars that cost 3 times as much.

        • trackdaze says:

          Fare enough on the porsche thing howabout their cusybro vw’s DSG or fords powershift that can handle the 340torques of the focus diesel smack bang in subarus market?

          On the height thing, imagine its a combination of packaging (the higher the seat is to the floor the greater the leg room) Focus groups would be hearing time and again about being able to see over the bonnet from SUV owners past and present. and the bigger must be better for each new model. Little wonder then the small-medium is gains sales ground on the medium large sector.

  4. Aleks says:

    Lets face it you can say what you want, but the interior is just dreadful, how could anyone ever get used to that, forget the hard plastics, its their center console that kills them, now that they have replaced the liberty, every subaru has a shocking interior. I honestly cringe every time i look at it, that center console is just terrible. And what if you don’t have sat nav which most cars won’t will you just have a huge whole their.

  5. Yanzo says:

    i would seriously consider buying one. buy some new shoes for it and like everyone else says it looks way better in person. but the cvt or auto is a no no for me, i’m a manual boy

  6. DipStiK says:

    I am waiting for diesel and 5yr warranty, outback with 213mm clearance is for me :)

  7. Tim says:

    Love the aggressive looks and the interior, a million times better than the 6 or Camry.

  8. observer says:

    Jake02
    Check out Wheels current edition. Skoda Octavia wagon long term test drive crapped itself by breaking down and leaving the Journo’s wife stranded roadside.

    Electrical problems…Oh dear thats the 2nd VAG test car to die during a roadtest in recent times. Remember the Wheels Car of The Year 2008 evaluation process where
    the VW Tiguan driveshaft collapsed during simple slalom testing.

    Subaru goes from strenght to strenght increasing market share across Europe, North America and Oz because their cars are Reliable, Sensible, Safe, Strong Resale Values and lower servicing costs than the Europeans.

    • Jake02 says:

      Thank you for your concerns. But what exactly gives you the impression that I’m going to listen to you and Wheels huh (just because I subscribe and they’re much better that the crap from Motor) ? That Octavia was on the Skoda Aus fleet (that exact car – N XR 74J – was at the press launch, meaning that it’s been driven and driven hard before) and doesn’t exactly represent what the rest of the Skoda range is like does it? The fact remains that in 18 months of driving, my Octavia has not had one problem (just as I expected – Skoda was the number ONE carmaker and the Octavia was the number ONE car in the Auto Express Survey last year and Skoda has better reliability than VW, as with SEAT) and I don’t expect it to.

      If Subaru keep producing cars that look like that, then its true that Skoda will receive my future business. And wow Subaru has lower servicing costs – get stuffed. A true customer will research ALL costs involved when buying a car and Skoda/VW/BMW etc services intervals are twice as long as Subaru making them cheaper in the long run (and servicing costs for my Skoda are cheaper than the Subaru, despite having a turbo etc and being more modern).

      • smokin'R32 says:

        “Subaru keep producing cars that look like that, then its true that Skoda will receive my future business.”
        Funny that cause Skoda are consistently producing the ugliest cars in the business. That grill with those frumpy proportions, yuck

      • carson says:

        Mate you need to chill out. Id have to agree with smokin’ on this one too

        • Jake02 says:

          carson (cresley?) – Geeze sorry, I didn’t realise that I was being OTT! The word one was in capitals to emphasise Skoda’s number one position – proving to Observer that Skodas do, in fact, not breakdown as much as he suggested and that Wheels car was a one-off…

          Smokin’ R32 – I realise that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but I’m stuggling to see how the Octavia RS is less attractive than any new Liberty. Its maybe in the fact that Skoda didn’t copy anyone for the design??? Hmmmm mind your own business!

          • Hayzel says:

            Jake 02 looking at your comment you are obviously a die hard SKODA fan. Your opinion and comment scream out bias and obviously you couldn’t accept people not liking skoda. Now shut up kid….

        • Jake02 says:

          Hayzel – If someone was sayin’ crap about your car then I think you would defend it, especially when they things said were untrue. Go back under your rock – your opinion is not needed. Farking hell you lot take things the wrong way. Its none of your business, so just piss off. :D

  9. average joe says:

    Will be interesting to see how the CVT fares – at least that acknowledge that they can’t handle any decent torque. I’m yet to see one that gets moving in less than a second from brake pedal to accelerator. Damn dangerous things at roundabouts.

  10. o says:

    who designed this car………….o wait toyota now owns a huge part of subaru. The headlights in the 10th pic look massive. and the taillights look like something out of a 180 car after the high quality lights of the last gen and where are the frameless doors!

  11. G says:

    Looks like a toyota camry got drunk, raped a honda and had a retarded child.

    Disgusting – good work ruining a stylish, unassuming sedan, subaru

  12. zahmad says:

    Much much better pics….Local ‘Liberty” shots are way better! I know how you can fix the look of the car very easily and is probably what Subaru will do in the near future…

  13. Nathan H says:

    Nice puff piece. I could rest my head on it and go to sleep, it’s that puffy. zzzzzzz. When I wake up though, I’ll look up through my bleary eyes and see a pig-ugly middle-age-mobile built around a CVT that curiously, jerks around like a fixed ratio box. Can anybody come up with a convincing reason to do this? I could teach a cow to quack, in mandarin, but it still won’t taste like peking duck.

  14. fishman says:

    I don’t understand how a car that is bigger and heavier than the previous model and with the same engine, has reduced fuel consumption? Is this just fudging the numbers???

    No mention of the real world consumption in this first steer, so it will be interesting to see these stats when full reviews come online…

  15. jay says:

    Is it just me or are all these new cars starting to look the same, FUGLY. The 6, the suby, the Accord, they all look damn clunky and heavy, is it getting hard to make a decent looking front end these days or what?

    Just read a review of the Suby and its CVT Tranny from the states 2/5.

    Give Kudo’s to VW and its new Golf, clean lines mostly, and it does not look like it needs to take a dump or go on a weight loss program real bad.

    Maybe I’m just over these “aggressive” looks that cars seem to need these days, then again maybe all these cars are starting to look the same.

    • Rental says:

      Gotta agre with you jay.
      Many cars have been getting more aggressive looking with creases, lumps and bug catching frontal add-ons.
      I reckon they’ve run out of ideas. The messy looking fronts are unnecessary and we are mature enough to like a clean, efficient and simple (and beautiful) design.
      Yes the Golf and the new Polo are good examples.
      And the Citroen DS is an older example of clean but not boring lines (I’ll duck now and await the abuse!)

    • QwkEddie says:

      Yes Jay I agree about the Golf’s lines,they are clean when you look at the MKVI Golf..oh! sorry I mean the MKII…no..no MKIII? no! MKIV? or is it the MKV? arghhh!,it doesn’t really matter,they all look the same to me!

  16. jay says:

    Fishman thats one thing a CVT set up will do, reduce fuel usage. They made the car damn heavier than the prev model so they have to improve the fuel numbers somehow..enter CVT.

    • fishman says:

      Yeah, the CVT will make a big difference over a dated 4 speed auto – I thought the quoted figures were for the manual though…if it’s for the CVT then the numbers make more sense

  17. Andrew Juma says:

    Why do all new Japanese cars seem to be smiling. Mazda 3, Subaru Liberty. Is this their new design trend? But seriously, this car is ugly, Tribeca ugly. Why do car manufacturers take a good thing and ruin it, again looking at you Mazda and Subaru. The only Japanese manufacturer that seems to get the replacements right is Honda.

  18. OzMPSclub says:

    Sorry Subaru as you have done with the Imprezza the Liberty has changed to a ugly duckling….my opinion and I have Mazda DNA……bring on the happy face

  19. Martin says:

    To me, they have thought of nice design features individually for each part of the cars exterior, then at the last moment, put all these potentially nice design features together and they simply don’t work together.

    Three biggest niggles are the headlights; they curve upwards too much, the door handles are simply ugly and the wheel arches seem a bit… tacked on, like an afterthought.

    I’m sure it will go well though. Just a pitty about the look of the thing.

  20. G says:

    Better interior, worse exterior. I reckon the 4GEN Liberty looked the best prior to the facelift. Actually, the facelift was ok, but the buttlift f**ked it up.

  21. Mark Greenburg says:

    I love the PR shots – exactly your typical Liberty driver. Boring office slave (sedan) and boring suburban housewife (wagon).

  22. dasferg says:

    Still looks like a Camry mated with a Holden Epica. Will be a good drive, reliable etc, but has become one of the herd. Moo.

  23. Love GT-R says:

    I don’t mind the new aggressive look. I have to see it in the metal before making a judgement. It looks less fussy than the Outback.

  24. Forza M says:

    Carfantic, hopefully the germans wont make ugly cars? I am thinking 75 percent of the entire range at BM looks sh-thouse.

    Caradvice- speaking of sh-thouse, the new website design fits that bill

    Alborama – please dont try and tell us this car looks good, it is a disaster to look at. The previous gen Liberty was a beautiful sedan, this is not. I am a bit annoyed that you can say this thing looks good. I am sure many of your loyal readers (even the ones I give a hard time) will agree with me. We are car enthusiasts and we all know this thing looks crap.

  25. Motorhead says:

    The design reminds me of the Epica, which isn’t a good start.
    The let down of the previous Liberty & Subarus in general has been poor interiors, high fuel consumption & lack of refinement.
    I had a quick look at one in a dealership & the interior was marginally better then previously but I’d be interested to know how much they’ve improved in the other two areas in the real world, the CVT should help a little in both regards but I am yet to drive one I’ve been satisfied with.

    • blitzkrieg says:

      Most 4 cly cars are 1.6,1.8,2.0 and use about 7 to 9 ltrs per 100km.
      My lib wagon uses 9.5ltrs per100km,pretty good for a 2.5,i cant see where you can
      equate that Subarus have high fuel consumption Motorhead,that would be normal consumption to me.

  26. RBH says:

    I’m sure the new styling is great from a packaging perspective, but the glasshouse looks too tall and out of proportion with the rest of the car. I think it’s a disappointing step backwards from the (quite attractive) previous model. Comparisons with respect to looks with the (unloved) Holden Epica are quite valid in my opinion except that I think the Epica actually looks slightly better than the new Liberty. Oh dear.

    I’m sure it’s a good car, but I couldn’t get past the appearance. Sorry.

  27. Grant says:

    While the styling is controversial now, it will not be long before most people will be used to it. Everyone thought the new Impreza was a shocker, but why is it now outselling all the previous, well-liked models? I am not necessarily a Subie fan, but having seen and driven a new demo of this model, I am impressed to say the least. It looks much better in the flesh (particularly the black GTs), goes like a scalded cat, yet is much more refined than earlier models (still not perfect though, but then again, what is?). As the ad says, “If you knew, you’d be in a Subaru too.” Great job, Subie, though restyle those front headlights please!

  28. RBH says:

    I still think the new Imprezza is a shocker. I know the move to being a hatchback has increased overall Imprezza sales, but the former WRX crowd are now driving Lancers, GTI’s and Mazda 3’s. If it’d been a good looking hatch, I suspect would have taken an even bigger slice of the market.

    The previous Liberty was a really handsome car IMHO. I doubt it costs that much more money to build a good looking car over an ugly one. So why go to market with an ugly one?

  29. Ian says:

    Subaru have completely ruined the styling of the 2010 model. (Wagon in particular).
    I think they have tried to appeal to the US market and I can’t blame for chasing those sales.
    But the last model was so much better looking! Please bring back the Euro styling.
    The new model looks like Mt Potato Head styled. Squeeze it and wait till it bulges!
    It is hard to beat the sleek styling that looks like it has seen the inside of a wind tunnel.

  30. Byron says:

    Front end looks like a Holden Epica gone wrong, & makes Epica look genuinely good, Side & Back view off a Honda Accord. Way to go! Interior is really good. Love the touchscreen. Subaru always make their cars look good inside, but not so much on the outside. I kinda like the styling, but i’d take a HSV E2 over this, sorry to say. Go HOLDEN

  31. MY07GT-Owner says:

    My MY07GT just got superceded, but personally I prefer the older model. The new model has gone decidedly Saloon’ish (in the slushiest sense of the description). My MY07 is up for end of lease in 2 months, but I don’t think the new model is going to tempt me to refresh – I’ll either go elsewhere, or extend my current Lease.
    Such a disappointment… My first car was the ugly duckling DL1800 Wagon. It took me 25 years to forgive Subaru for that styling indiscretion. The MY07 turned me around. Shame Subaru only like a repeat customer once every silver jubilee !

  32. mark says:

    looks like mitsi magnas were 7 years ahead of there time

  33. miumiumi says:

    Regarding the tail, I think it is a trend. I mean it is a trend to copy the rich German car makers who have spent money on their designs. It is BMW and Mercedes who first extended the tails of their cars by fitting protruding rear bumpers. Then Toyota Camry followed. My biggest disappointment is Honda gave up the elegant clean lines of their 7 generation Accord Euro and copied a BMW body style of a protruding rear bumper. Now it comes to Subaru Liberty. No surprise! All in all, it is ugly. Audi is the one who still adheres to the philosophy of simple is the best. I have to say their cars are just elegant in terms of a clean body style. What about Skoda? It is something interesting. I would say Skoda retain the image as a company from a former Soviet ally, i.e. a country with an iron curtain, since you can tell by their designs. However, they have incorporated the latest technologies and are arguably one of the best quality car makers in Europe.
    When all Japanese car makers are going on the same track in the producing ugly piggies and I do not have that much to buy an Audi, I think I rather opt for a Skoda for the quality and value for money. But I really like to see the new generations of Hyundai, such as the US Genesis, to land on here. These are only my personal opinions, I do not intend to demean anyone.

  34. Radster says:

    Each to their own, but I will confess I didn’t think much of it in photos; however, I went to my local dealer and I actually like the look of it now. There’s a strength of purpose – even a muscularity – to the design which isn’t conveyed in photos. Anyway, I took it for a test drive and bought one! Took delivery of a 2.5i Sports Premium sedan last Friday and it’s the best car I’ve ever owned – easily beats my old VT Commodore and is a marked improvement over my previous Mazda6. The new Subaru Liberty is breathtakingly good on many levels and I’m more than happy to have given my hard-earned money to a company that is one of the leaders in the automobile industry.

    • blitzkrieg says:

      what do think of the hand brake on the dash,surely its dangerous if you need to apply in an emergency situation,taking your eyes off the road to pinpoint the button?

  35. Trevor Young says:

    I waited almost all year for the specs. of the new Liberty but my local dealer (in Coffs Harbour) seemed disinterested. So….I walked across the road and traded my MY07 2.5 Liberty (my second) for a Skoda Superb diesel. The main issue with the Liberty that I wanted clarification on was the annoying lull sometimes with the electronic throttle particularly when cornering or exiting roundabouts. My dealer told me it was a characteristic with the Liberty and there was no cure. I don’t believe that – its a problem that must have a solution Hope the new model is passed the issue. Otherwise, the Liberty was brilliant!!

    (Sprightly Bob)

  36. B4 says:

    I saw one in the flesh the other day,… and my jaw dropped! And not in the least positive way!
    I am a Liberty fan, drive a Liberty B4 and have always owned Subarus, so to see this monster (or Toyota looking monster) has turned me right off.
    I was in the market for a new Liberty, hoping that they would have improved some of Gen4 safety features, but without being too over zealous on the design. Well, I tell you, I’m looking elsewhere.
    Is it necessary to re-design a whole new look to a car just for the sake of it being the ‘next generation’?
    Tradition plays a role, just look at Porsche or VW Golf, in each new model, they still keep the traditional look of the car whilst improving all esle around it. And surprise surprise it works and sells.
    This all seems too familiar with Subaru, dejavu… remember when the Impreza got bugged eyed!
    For those that think ‘it’ looks aggressive, well my grandmother would think that.

  37. fishman says:

    I have to agree with the previous poster – I saw caught one out of the corner of my eye driving past for the first time yesterday. It certainly catches the eye, but that is one seriously ugly front end….

  38. Karl says:

    I took one for a test drive a few weeks back. I was impressed. I am looking at the Premium Model. I thought it looked good from both inside and out. Like all new models it will take a while to get used to.

    The power was good for a 4 (currently have a Commodore). When I took it for a test drive I didn’t realise I had hit 120kms it was so smooth.

    Looking a buying early 2010. Have considered the Euro and Maz 6, keep coming back to the Suabaru handling and quality. I think the Maz 6 has become overpriced, and the Euros tend to get dinged easily in the carparks along the doors (p’s me off). Plus the Honda seems pricy for what you get.

    OVerall I think the new Liberty will become accepted as people get used to seeing them. I did like the prevous model, though the new one is much bigger with a boot comparable to my Commodore.

    Cheers

    Karl

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