2008 Ford Falcon Orion Ute Interior Spied!
4 Jul, 2007
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After an arduous day at the office, our spy photographer has snapped the first shots of Ford’s rehashed centre console, along with the new speedometer/tachometer cluster.
The seemingly base model Ford ‘Orion’ Utility spotted in traffic is not dissimilar to the one spotted earlier by our photographer, except without the funky looking alloy wheels.
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The following shots of the interior confirm several things. Firstly, a telephone button on the steering wheel (on what appears to be a base model) suggests that Ford’s new Falcon will mimic Holden’s Bluetooth availability across the entire range, allowing the driver to connect their phone to play through the car’s speakers.
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Next up, Ford’s new dashboard layout has been revealed. The first - and most noticeable - feature is the display at the top of the dashboard. This, presumably, being a base model indicates that the screen may simply be an analogue unit, similar to the one featured in Holden’s Commodore Omega, displaying vital information such as radio and CD controls.
The other noticeable feature of the dashboard unit is that the air vents have been shifted from the top of the dash to the middle. The vehicle pictures is also fitted with a column shift unit, negating the need for a floor shifting unit.
A new steering wheel has also made it to the new Falcon. The steering wheel design seems to have been somewhat reverted back to EF/EL style. It’s hard to tell if the Utility is fitted with a different steering wheel to the Futura model photographed some time ago by our spy photographer.
The next most noticeable feature of the photos is the speedometer and tachometer cluster which are visible from one of the photos.
Ford has adopted a similar LCD readout to Holden’s Commodore, probably to be used for fuel consumption and other trip computer features. Also noticeable is a “Menu” button (circled) which our spy photographer has suggested is used to navigate the screen.
Holden use steering wheel menu controls to navigate the screen, relinquishing the need for reaching through/around the steering wheel to access the menu. Also witnessed by the spy photographer is a new speedometer cluster which features a new font, different to that used in the BF Falcon.
From another angle, the bottom of the centre cluster can be seen.
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Although not totally uncovered, the headlight angle and design is clearly evident from the embossing of the lights through the car bra.
One other thing that took the spy photographer by surprise are the “Good Year” branded tyres, deviating from the “Dunlop” norm. This isn’t conclusive though, as it’s a prototype vehicle, any wheels could have been fitted for a number of reasons.
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A few more photos from the interior reveal some truths that were covered up from previous photos. Firstly, you may recall the previous photos our spy photographer took of the Ute which detailed the covering behind the driver and passenger door (as shown above).
The following interior shots reveals that there is a new design employed for the Orion Falcon Ute.
(Courtesy of AutoNews)
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And lastly, speculation about the rear suspension in the new Utility has been ripe. Thanks to our spy photographer, it can be confirmed that the Orion Utility - the base model at least - will use leaves.
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July 4th, 2007 at 3:42 pm
Hmm, I’m glad these shots aren’t that clear…. IF the person who took them is a Ford employee, (and I’m really not sure) I hope they get FIRED.
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July 4th, 2007 at 3:53 pm
I think we are going to know everything about the new Falcon before it is released, well done photographer.
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July 4th, 2007 at 3:55 pm
Well it would be hard to imagine they can get so close to the car if they didnt work for Ford!
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July 4th, 2007 at 4:02 pm
HAHAHA,Alborz your sounding a little grumpy today.Something we all said?
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July 4th, 2007 at 4:06 pm
Hahah, you failed to see my sense of sarcasm
Plus I’ve been trying hard to to write this Kia Rio Road Test
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July 4th, 2007 at 4:15 pm
^Lol I can see why your’e trying hard to write something about the Kia Rio.
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July 4th, 2007 at 4:25 pm
Definition of sarcasm.
“A savage bitter form of humor usually intended to hurt or wound ”
WOW Alborz thats much worse than being grumpy !LOL
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July 4th, 2007 at 4:27 pm
Ground Hog Day !
I went through this with VE. Ford has woken up to a new form marketing.
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July 4th, 2007 at 4:41 pm
Its cheap too Holden Man, we do the work, they get the hype!
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July 4th, 2007 at 4:52 pm
holden man,
no ford did it in 2002 with the Ba falcon remember??
they even had links on the ford home page to slowly leak their secrets.
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July 4th, 2007 at 5:05 pm
I’m sure Holden/Ford weren’t the first to employ viral marketing.
At least the head lights look pretty good.
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July 4th, 2007 at 5:31 pm
I don’t think the interior is looking so up market/ european nor solid looking like the VE interiors… looking a touch Korean perhaps?
The inner door handle at least looks like some thought has gone into it…
I’m a bit dissapointed, I have to say…. looks like business as ususal from Ford, rather than a step up that really is going to be needed to even stay in step with the rest of the market.
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July 4th, 2007 at 5:41 pm
are you for real? Commodore?? solid ??? have you sat in one? the interior looks like its made from recycled lego and buttons from a cheap chinese ipod knockoff! FFS !!
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July 4th, 2007 at 5:53 pm
The interior light looks identical to the one in my old ED Falcon (’94). Other than that, I think the interior looks pretty good. I’m also curious to see what the headlights will look like without the bra on….
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July 4th, 2007 at 5:57 pm
Ohhh!!WOOOOWWW!!!Hope you get hit by one soon.How about get a life instead of getting your jollies out of seeing a car that everyone will eventually see anyway!!Does it make you feel better than all of us???
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July 4th, 2007 at 6:21 pm
George,
yes ford were probably not the first to employ those kind of marketing techniques, but what i was doing was correcting the statement from Mr Holden who said that ford learnt it from holden, when in fact ford had done it 5 years ago.
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July 4th, 2007 at 6:26 pm
one things for sure the headlights wont look like the old Ba falcon, they sold their design to the guys at holden remember?
can anyone make out the tyre size on the wall of the tyre? is it still 16? it sorta looks like it says 18 but i doubt it is.
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July 4th, 2007 at 6:35 pm
@ Tristan July 4 2007 @ 5:53 pm
The interior light is nothing like an ED Falcon has mate. I have an ED and it is NOT the same!
The ED one is a sligtly bigger unit and with more opaque plastic that the one shown here It’s a different shape also.
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July 4th, 2007 at 6:38 pm
I highly doubt that was a ford employee. They would have got better photos than that…
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July 4th, 2007 at 6:43 pm
I’m just so happy as a holden man to see the Falcon finally looks like they got a cluster trip computer finally that will rival holdens, It’s been along time coming, Us holden owners have had years of fun with them dash trips, Now finally Ford has gave the Ford owners something to play around with and maybe give them a digital speedo which is very helpful for not getting booked.
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July 4th, 2007 at 6:55 pm
The Falcon already has a trip computer which displays instantaneous fuel usage, average fuel usage, average speed, trip time elapsed, and distance to empty.
You can also get your cluster flashed so that it displays speed electronically too - but that is not how the vehicle comes from factory.
What else does the Commodore have on the trip computer?
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July 4th, 2007 at 7:10 pm
Is it just me or does it have a little bit of Honda Accord Euro in the interior
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July 4th, 2007 at 9:40 pm
Andrew M
The tyre sise is 16 inch
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July 4th, 2007 at 10:02 pm
Holden man
ford had this form of trickle publicity with BA, well before VE
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July 4th, 2007 at 10:21 pm
Oh wow it seems the falcon will have 100s of buttons, on a standard too.
Give me the BA cluster any day. More buttons just make things too ugly.
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July 4th, 2007 at 10:27 pm
I think you’ll find if you look at the photos carefully that they were taken whilst the car was in a traffic lane. He was probably stopped at the lights long enough for a prepared photographer to click off that number of shots. It wouldn’t of taken more than a 30-40 seconds to get all those photos.
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July 4th, 2007 at 11:00 pm
Dood - yeah, have sat in one - I was given a new Statesman to drive for a week not long after it was launched. Holden has lifted it’s game considerably from where they were at previously. I have to say I was impressed and I’m not a Holden man at all. The reversing sensors make a awful noise/ sound, but everything else worked well and looked great. The 5 speed auto was pretty crappy though - not smooth or quiet enough. Oh… and the engine sounds like a blender with a drawer full of cutlery emptied into it as well… but inside is good…
This new Falcon dashboard reminds me of a Toyota where all the radio and all the buttons are up on top of the dash, as apposed to layed out nicely in an Audi fashion. It’s not looking classy - in fact, it is looking like lots of blank plastic under all the controls. They started heading in the right direction with the BA - now this looks like a retrograde step.
Lets now start talking about the day trip you will need to take to get from the nose of the car just to the front wheel. It surely must be all of about a 10 minute walk from one to the other?
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July 5th, 2007 at 12:20 am
Christiaaaaan - wanker alert! go back to your holden forum you troll. Such stupid comments.
Ford is on a winner, that’s for certain. It’s all covered up, fake panels, and half the interior is covered, and it still looks a lot classier than any VE commodore which suffers from a nose job that only MJ can claim victory to a worse job…NOT!
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July 5th, 2007 at 1:12 am
Remember this is the dash of the UTE - a work horse.
It’s not going to have all the frills the up-spec models will have.
New dash design has always been an evolution rather than revolution anyway.
Stacked Air con, screen and CD I don’t think there will be any suprises.
Higher quality build and finish will be something I’d expect though.
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July 5th, 2007 at 7:47 am
How staged do they look!
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July 5th, 2007 at 10:10 am
i think the dash is going to look like that in the xt modle
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July 5th, 2007 at 11:42 am
I got a feeling its Ford that is supplying some of these photos to create interest in said new Orion, the Falcon is currently taking a bath in sales, prices have been slashed, goodbye any sort of resale
GREAT to see a bench seat is back, would not want a single cab ute without one [are u listing Holden?]
Sad to see leaf spring rear end, would have expected at least coils [Holden has superior IRS]
Dual fuel LPG would be nice too, sick of that single fuel LPG rubbish that Ford are dishing out [unless its a direct injected LPG system then bring it on!]
Still rather a Holden, has much stronger resale and more car like
Lets wait and see
O/A
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July 5th, 2007 at 11:47 am
OttoAu.
We can assure you that these photos have not been ‘leaked’ by Ford. We have a network of readers and photographers out there actively seeking spy photographs.
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July 5th, 2007 at 12:11 pm
Paul M.
Good to see your network of spys are doing such a good job with OrionGate/Falcongate, keep it up!
……………………
I have had 3 Falcon Utes, what needs to be addressed before i ever buy one again -
RUST RUST RUST
Rear mail oil leak
Cracked cyl head
Sloppy build quality fit & finish
Warped front disks
Vibration for a IL6
Rubbish paint job
Easy mark/scratch interior plastics
Position of oil filter
Each latter model has a worse and worse centre seat
Did i mention RUST?
O/A
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July 5th, 2007 at 12:23 pm
O/A you say rust, i have had falcons my whole life my whole life and i have not had any rust. before you come and start tell lies start to look after your cars.
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July 5th, 2007 at 1:33 pm
OttoAU… man… noone really wants to read a troll’s postings… so how about you just go and disappear like a good little boy now hey?
TROLL!!
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July 5th, 2007 at 5:12 pm
Yay! Column shift and 3 seats across the front!
Now how about that on the wagon, too?
Column + Bench + Vinyl seats + Rubber floor mats =
Surf Beast, you can drive home in wettie after surf
Work Beast, can be cleaned with a blower!
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July 5th, 2007 at 5:13 pm
And by the way we have had Falcons without rust, too. Did Otto buy new or secondhand?
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July 5th, 2007 at 6:07 pm
Ottoau,
man u gotta stop driving your vehicles under the sea. that salt water aint good for them u know?
as for sales/resales, gees i wish i could get an XR6 for the price they are throwing the equivalent commodore ute out at at the moment. PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR CLASSIFIEDS FOR NEW AND USED VEHICLES PRICES!!!
why would you want IRS? its a ute remember. you can not put the same loads on it. and ford have proven that they can produce a better handling ute on springs than holden can on coil-overs.
as for LPG yes it would be nice if ford did direct injected gas as a dedicated fuel and id say it is a certaintly with the new model. they tried to put it on a couple of years ago now but they were facing legal/copyright hurdles. and as for holdens LPG system well do they do one?? what i mean is the one the sprook as their own is actually an after market system that has to be fitted on the vehicle once it is purchaced. you can get the same system on any vehicle.
the fact is the falcon ute is far more a work vehicle than the holden. the holden is more of a “show pony” and always be as holden is so focused on their image more than anything else. (not to say the XR’s arent a nice/tough looking ute though)
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July 6th, 2007 at 8:26 am
Jack said
July 5 2007 @ 5:13 pm
And by the way we have had Falcons without rust, too. Did Otto buy new or secondhand?
Must say you are a fickle bunch!
WHEN will a Aussie car, ie FALCODORE be listed as #1 in quality by any magazine, or testing auth.?Anwser NEVER!
Purchased a brand new XH in 98′, traded in a XF [had rust even in the ashtray!]the XH which i sold last year was rusting its head off too.
FYI i NEVER ever drove ANY of my vehicles on dirt roads, not ONCE.
Face it, they are overpriced underdone junk, is it no wonder the Corolla has overtaken the Comm. as #1 seller, and the Falcon is sinking like a lead ballon.
The days of big cars in Oz are over, Fairlane/LTD dead, this is just the beginning of it.
The BIG 2 might be making the last of the big sedans in Oz
Cheers
O/A
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July 6th, 2007 at 5:08 pm
OTTOAU,
are you some kind of idiot from holdens payroll set out to defame the falcon ute?
I dead set have owned an XF ute and also an XH ute aswell. I can honestly say not one spot of rust any where.
you must be some kind of hobo that picks up wet cigarette butts off the beach and puts them in your ashtray if you say you had it full of rust even in there.
as for big sedan sales in OZ it is the trends of the public that would rather buy sports models over luxury. just look at those sales figures such as XR6 and SV6 etc
the reason the corolla is rising to the top in sales is that the average sperm count in males is decreasing and they now feel the urge to drive more feminine cars and save like 15% on their fuel bill.
oh yeah and no response to my last comments yet either? wow you want to start it and the fact you dont acknowledge feedback from others shows you have no interest in the topic other than to stir s**t
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July 6th, 2007 at 6:46 pm
HAHAHAHA.
OTTOAU , why did you buy 3 falcon utes if they were rubbish then ?
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July 6th, 2007 at 9:06 pm
How can all those Holden fanatics be happy with the VE C’dore?
Every single Holden supporter I’ve spoken to has said to me that all Fords are ugly (which isn’t true). Well all Fords include the BA Falcon… Hmm… Correct me if I’m wrong, but the VE C’dore looks very similar (with the exception of the hideous wheel arches) to the BA Falcon.
Holden morons of the planet, the best C’dore to ever come out was the VZ. At least it actually looked like a Holden, and not an aging Falcon from 5 years ago. But hey, Ford won heaps of Large car awards with the BA Falcon when it first came out, so why can’t Holden win the same category with a nearly identical looking car 5 years later?
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July 7th, 2007 at 8:50 am
and to add further to azza’s point the Ba platform was still winning awards when it was 4 years old. does any one think the commodore will be doing the same when it is 4 years old? nope! as long as ford puts a steering wheel in as standard equipment when they release the new model id say its back to the top of the tree for ford AGAIN. (cause they dont need to do much)
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July 7th, 2007 at 3:44 pm
notice how in one of the pictures of the headlights you can see a white lancer in the reflection? the photographer smartly noticed this and blurred his number plate out of it.
Also notice the driver inside the car??? this bloke has to be a ford worker!! otherwise the driver would go away if he saw a camera. Asif joe blow is going to have enough time to kneel under the car and take pics of the suspension whilst a driver is inside the car!!
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July 7th, 2007 at 10:58 pm
Nice pics
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July 10th, 2007 at 10:54 am
Looks to cheap ford do it again
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July 11th, 2007 at 12:14 am
OttoAu, A car that is full of rust says more about its owner than the manufacturer. All cars are the same, they are all made of steel. Moisture and dirt are the main causes causing anode cathode reaction. To stop a car from corroding keep it clean and dont leave it outside and dont allow moisture to form ie) morning dew. Just put it in a shed. As for your list, what are you a whinger? Complaining about the plastic scratching? what do you think the plastic they use in a commodore ute is going to be much different?…. ITS PLASTIC. Complaining about a oil filter, you must be short because you cant reach and fat because you cant fit underneath. Maybe if you took care of them you would have saved some money and not buy 3 new falcons.The problems you have are mostly from owner neglect, besides Head (which can be caused by overheating) and Warped discs. you will have problems with any car you own, dont blame ford.
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July 21st, 2007 at 6:58 pm
(ottoau)
you are oficially the world number one wanker and are noob (newbe) in cars so why dont you just rack of you short,fat and ugly hobo.
ps.youre sprem level must have drpped by 99%.
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August 2nd, 2007 at 8:17 pm
LOOKS LIKE SHIT!!
And now dont answer back to my comment, because im right……….by the way if u got MSN add me on tyre__fryer@hotmail.com ( by the way, its double underscore )
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August 8th, 2007 at 7:03 pm
Not The design of the BA/VE Headlights again.
As I said in an earlier post All car companies steal ideas from eachother there hasn’t been an original idea in the auto industry for years However..
Records show [as does the Billion Dollar Baby DVD and Peter Robinsons book “Autobiography”] that the VE project started back in 1998/99. there were various desgns for the new car but in the end it came down to 2 designs and they went with the design by Peter Hughes whos initial sketches are dated 1999
give an indication as to what the VE would look like from various angles with subsequent close ups of particular features one of which includes a drawing of the headlights which look exactly the same as they do on the VE. Between 2000 and time the the BA was released Holden developed Prototypes and installed a new assembly line etc.
Just because the VE came out after the BA doesn’t necessarily mean they copied them. Remember it takes along time to develop a new car from Design > Road car.
Look at the New Merc S Class its Headlights look like the ones on the current Statesman - Merc copied Holden.
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August 8th, 2007 at 7:17 pm
Holden copied BMW 5 series headlights for their current States/Calais . I doubt Merc would copy anything from Holden ,what have they pattented again on the VE ?
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September 6th, 2007 at 11:56 pm
Let’s all drive fugly toyotas as they are perfect just ask Lawsie. Know what i mean. Old Farts in their new Toyotas thinking they are as flash as a rat with a gold tooth.
Plse don’t rain on their parade because they believe they got a merc at a discount.
Corolla ute now wouldn’t that be good.
Fugly toyotas for all!!!!!
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September 8th, 2007 at 8:46 am
if you know how much horsepower the 2008 ford falcon has and how many miles it runs please posted here and ill be very thank full to you.
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September 15th, 2007 at 9:16 pm
As far as I know, this is Wheels best educated guess:
XR6Turbo - 260kW
XR8 - 280kW
F6 Typhoon - 300kW
GT - 320kW
All the talk I’ve heard of the base I6 tho is Ford are concentrating on economy. It may crack 200kW but the aim is below 10L/100kms which would be far better than VE.
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September 16th, 2007 at 12:48 am
hahaha you nailed it Mark.
Toyotas problem is their cars DO NOT invoke passion amongst real car fans. They sell so well because of the average commuter who just wants the most efficient way of getting from point A to point B.
They are clinically efficient to a fault. Good car but bland and boring. Nothing comes close to the intense rivallry between Ford and Holden.
The only reason Toyota is flogging everyone (including Holden) in overall car sales is that their broad range is (I don’t know why) very popular.
I don’t have the exact figures in front of me but Corolla and Hilux both flogged Aurion and Avalon, the main Toyota competitors to Falcon and Commodore.
Take Corolla and Hilux out and Toyota wouldn’t look so big at all and would be trailing Ford and Holden.
After saying all that, I like the look of the TRD Aurion. It’s performance is definitely conservative, obviously can’t compete with HSV or FPV, but it does look nice. Best looking Toyota I’ve seen that hasn’t come out of Japan.
And who is this “Aykan Sengoz” dickwit? All he can say is “looks like shit” then pisses off??? Tosser!
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September 18th, 2007 at 6:27 am
Hey how did the new holden commodore make it as #1 car of the year bla blab bla when the first 70 000 were recalled for rear safety belts?
Its common knowledge that the only reason they started producing holdens is to keep the turkeys from driving Ford’s
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September 18th, 2007 at 8:15 am
The $ spent on the VE (vomit eveyware) Dunnydore was not on developing the car, but to bribe the media to say good things about the powerful V8 but say nothing about the Falcon the way its made in Australia and its V8s are made here too, when the holden V8s are imported from Canada and Mexico.
Then the media says to not buy V8s or sixes and just buy gutless fours (to make Australia look like london)
then say how good the VE is when thats a six and V8 just after saying not to buy them.
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September 18th, 2007 at 8:42 am
‘Watto-Cobra’, although I agree a broad Toyota range helps… ther market share is double that of Holden and even more on top of Falcon. NOW your talking about bland cars and that Ford and Holden are so great thats why the sell what they do, well both these manufacturers sell 80%+ to fleets… who like Toyota buyers, just want something, not exactly an inspirational drive. Get rid of their fleets, and Toyotas fleet sales… that market share would be even bigger among private buyers, those people who user their OWN money and want the BEST overall vehicle avaialbe… which is more often then not a Toyota.
As for Utes, the Falcon looks alrite… it cant do much worse than the Commodore, that thing is Fugly with a capital F.
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September 18th, 2007 at 10:20 am
“TRD”
Fair enough, I agree with most of what you said.
I didn’t mean to imply Ford and Holden sell better because Toyota’s bland looks, etc, because they don’t. I mean that precludes me and many Holden/Ford fans from making the switch. Plus I’ll stick with RWD.
Will you be buying (or have bought) a TRD Aurion? I’d be interested to hear what you think of it. I’ve only read/seen it in Cars Guide (Herald Sun) and they gave it good wraps. I really do like it’s looks with the subtle grey highlights.
I really don’t understand why Hilux sells so well tho. The new ones may be better (have they gone to coils yet?) but my brothers 2002 model is not a nice car on the road or the bush. It’s suspension is rock hard and the body flexes. In the bush we never get as far up the worst tracks as our mates in their Landcruisers and Patrols, before resorting to winch and snatch strap.
I’d guess they sell well as a cheap work hack. When AbiGroup were building the new internal freeway through Albury, 95% of their vehicles were Hilux.
I’m reluctant to admit the higher-end VE’s look good but the low end cars look like crap. The same may end up being true for Orion (I hope not). When I saw/read about the CGI pics of the FPV Orion cars I thought “they’ve kicked a goal, I’m getting one”. Although these may not be what the end product looks like either.
The thing is those early pics stirred me, they made want one for looks/driving, not just the best/most efficient way of getting from A to B. I guess that’s the point I was trying to make with my earlier comment.
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September 18th, 2007 at 10:49 am
Haha nah I dont have the TRD… from other forums though I have been in touch with a few people, suprisingly they dont seem to think the car had much torque steer at all, but then again they might not be pushing it hard enough.
As for Hilux, well supposedly they are built tough, and have a history of it. What I dont get is the TRD Hilux, what is the point… I would have thought it would be FAR more benefit to bring a TRD Corolla out, especially so since the Japs already have an AWD Corolla with abit of grunt, would just need light work done by TRD! Now that would be a hit, considering people bought Corolla Sportivo’s which had no guts!
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September 18th, 2007 at 11:26 am
Yeah, my bro’s Hilux has been little trouble (except cam belt broke before it was due for replacement).
Agree about TRD Hilux. Don’t really think FPV Territory will sell well although easy to do based off F6 Typhoon engine/driveline. Ford would sell far more diesel’s in the base model when they finally slap one in.
Never experienced torque steer (haven’t driven a FWD with that much go). Read a comparo between VXR Astra and XR5Turbo. The Astra had more power but they bagged it for torque steer and not being as nice to drive. I guess AWD Corolla wouldn’t have same prob as Astra.
Is AWD Corolla based off a rally car? They aren’t in World Rally where Focus is cleaning up but (damn, I can’t remember his name) has been winning with it in Oz Rally.
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September 18th, 2007 at 7:05 pm
can anyone tell me what toyotas fleet sales as a whole is? from what i understand is toyota is the number one fleet seller and im guessing by a bit too. sure falcon and commodore might sell 80% but they are pretty much the only name plate they sell to fleets. toyotas biggest fleet seller is corolla but only by units not percentage. i feel other nameplates from toyota are past the 80% mark.
not that fleet sales counts for anything im just curious as people always attack ford and holden for their fleet sales yet toyota sells a hell of a lot aswell
i totally agree the hilux is possibly one of the most overrated work vehicles.
like watto and many other people will tell you the hilux lacks in off road capabilities.
it is also not that great value (in my opinion)
the best work ute (in my opinion) is the falcon ute but when you factor in “just wanting a work hack” the mazda Bravo/BT50 and the triton easily have it over the hilux as great value for money
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September 18th, 2007 at 7:59 pm
Couldnt resist saying something when my anti spam word is BMWM3………lol. Hey Matt B do you have any idea of Andrews question if your still there ? Andrew just sent you an email !
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September 24th, 2007 at 11:40 am
I will buy one as soon as they’re on the show room floor, Ford are the best Holden is the worst……..pfffffffff
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October 1st, 2007 at 5:41 pm
What model are you planning on Ted?
This may be the only spanking new car I ever buy (i’m just blue collar after all), so I’m gonna make it a good one.
I’m leaning towards F6 Typhoon over GT. They have similar torque/power but the Phoon’s is spread over a much larger rev range from what I’ve been reading. A test drive will sort me out
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October 1st, 2007 at 5:58 pm
Not sure, but I’m the same (undecided), test driving them all will be essential for final decision.
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October 3rd, 2007 at 11:37 pm
No more arseholes on this site any more. Like ‘MrHolden’, ‘Ottoau’ and ‘Aykan Sengoz’ F*** head Holdenwoo lovers. Hope they never come back!!
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November 9th, 2007 at 11:25 pm
i realy need to blow my load guys someone post a porn adress for me, i dont want any bogan chicks with missing teeth or anything like that, u know wat i mean no holden girls!!
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November 11th, 2007 at 2:04 am
So that’s no to free willy your mum?
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November 12th, 2007 at 10:00 pm
Same old nag with a few new panels…whooo
And still not a flared front guard like the ford v8 supercars are using..LOL
Do yourselves a favour if you like a toyota with style buy a Lexus I did they are great or better still free yourself from Holden and Ford and mindset and buy a BMW I did that too….! Best car I ever owned that 3series.
I think Ford have dug there own grave with this re-vamp.
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November 12th, 2007 at 10:11 pm
^Pete, Ford Australia and GMH don’t take on BMW here. Why are you making it seem bad they not using flared guards? And it’s more than just new pannels. the whole car is updated even if the platform isn’t. GEEE, I don’t know what you’re on.
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November 12th, 2007 at 10:33 pm
Then remove the flared front guards of the race cars and make them ‘look’ like the factory car…even if they are almost nascars.
I used to buy Holden and Falcons but they really are not worth the money for what you don’t get…
A slight re-jig of the panels a mild engine upgrade (no hybrid or diesel either) cheap looking plastics inside, etc etc etc on a ?? 8-10year old under tray. Hardly worth the hype. Atleast Holden did try, with the latest and seems (at the moment) to be miles in front of this offering. Once petrol hits the $1.50+ as the base price who will be buying these old dinosaurs (both commodore and falcon)????
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November 12th, 2007 at 10:59 pm
If that your opinion, so be it. Even though Ford and GMH are working on better engines than they have now.
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November 13th, 2007 at 11:22 am
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November 27th, 2007 at 4:21 pm
Pete, what sh-t is in your fu-king mind?
So you claim we should all hate our country and go Asia only?
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November 29th, 2007 at 9:39 pm
I don’t like the way the a/c wents are under the in-dash screen.
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November 29th, 2007 at 10:01 pm
Pete,
mate ease up!!! take off your blind fold and you will see that ford has 2 and soon to be 4 diesel passenger vehicles to toyotas big fat zero.
also the gas guzzling LPG falcon makes the piss weak overrated toyota prius hybrid look like an expensive vehicle to fuel. oh and when petrol hits $1.50 who will be buying the dinosaur of a hybrid vehicle? the LPG falcon will eclipse it
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November 29th, 2007 at 10:15 pm
NONE OF THESE CARS WERE DESIGNED IN AUSTRALIA!!! READ BELOW YOU RETARDS:
CAMIRA , EPICA , BARINA , RODEO ,ELFIN, GEMINI , COMMODORE , VECTRA , ASTRA , ZAFIRA , CRUISE, MONARO , CAPTIVA, FRONTERA, SUBURBAN……………….
NONE OF THESE CARS WERE DESIGNED IN AUSTRALIA NOR ANY OF THEIR ENGINES ARE AUSTRALIAN AT ALL!!!!! GET IT??? AS FAR AS THE REST OF THE WORLD IS CONCERNED HOLDEN DOESNT EVEN EXIST!!!
THEY ARE JUST A BADGE , NOT A BRAND , NOT AUSTRALIAN AT ALL … HOLDEN = HOLES , OIL LEAKS , DENTS AND ENGINE NOISE!!
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
FORD IS FORD …. EVERYWHERE AROUND THE WORLD FORD RULES!!!
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November 29th, 2007 at 10:18 pm
Spot on Andrew……hybrids are over rated!
Pete have you removed your blind fold and ear muffs……..don’t believe what you see and hear about the Prius! Its just the new Volvo………..for people that cant drive!
I will still be buying Aussie Muscle if it reaches $3.00 a litre sorry,still cheap horsepower!
What do Holden and Falcon have to do with the price of petrol anyway! Most EURO cars for the last 9 years demand 98! If your after performance!
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December 3rd, 2007 at 11:19 pm
Hey Pete! You are a Prius owner!!
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December 3rd, 2007 at 11:23 pm
Pete, you are an otro dueño marrón de prius que se siente en el segundo carril que hace 80 en una zona 100!!!!!
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December 4th, 2007 at 12:52 am
So you guys knocking Pete if “he does own a Prius’ do you have a problem with your self esteem, and a brain that sits just above the drivers seat or maybe erection problems. I think both actually chasps.
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December 4th, 2007 at 6:49 pm
William & Pete = Same Person?
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December 11th, 2007 at 11:53 pm
Seen the new Falcon today driving along Horseshoebend Road, Torquay at about 1030am. There where two cars following it and one in front of it. Its a great way to get everybodys attention as it did for me. Great camoflauge they use on it but the FORD badges stood out. I bet they be takin it on the Great Ocean road to give it a good run.
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December 29th, 2007 at 4:19 pm
Christiaan,
Im with you all the way, everybody thinks that the falcon will be the better then VE Commodore, you havent seen it yet for crying out loud! Everybody hates holden so much. Go back to where you came from at ford forums!
Jpmaster,
SHUT THE HELL UP TOSSER!
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January 3rd, 2008 at 1:16 am
Duck, so you telling Ford Fans to go back to their Ford forum, WHY?
Maybe you woried your fellow Holdenwoo fans have alot to loose with this car?
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January 3rd, 2008 at 1:52 pm
Oz.,
U know Oz. when every body says Holdenwoo, i agree with you but when everybody says “Holdenwoo” are they saying that all holdens are crap? I know holden make a few crap cars! Such as the barina, epica and viva! And i am very dissapointed of what holden have done by making cars under the Daewoo company name! But holden still make great cars like Commy etc.
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January 3rd, 2008 at 2:18 pm
It is disappointing that Holden small car fleet are old, Korean-sourced models, and some like Barina are incredibly unsafe as well.
Commodore is the only bright light in their stable atm. Maybe they will switch back to Vauhall/Opel when the Daewoos fail to sell. Captiva is doing ok apparently.
Another thing is, I was talking to a friend the other day and she was thinking of buying a Barina. I filled her in on its origin and safety. She dead set thought Barina was built in Australia!!! Now she is looking at Fiesta or Yaris.
It seems people who aren’t car enthusiasts have a high level of ignorance when it comes to where a car is made.
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January 3rd, 2008 at 2:45 pm
There are alot of people who think if it had a Holden bage on it, it automaticly means it’s Australian. I know a biased Holden fan who won’t shut up and says every Ford is an American import and every Holden is built in Australia, no matter what I tell him, he keeps to his beleivs.
Now I get ready because when ever this subject comes up a peed off Holden idiot quotes me and writes immature attacks on me. So I AM NOT COMPARING WHATS AUSTRALIAN IN A HOLDEN AND FORD, I JUST SAID A STORY I KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO REPLY TO THIS COMMENT…NOTHING IMMATURE PLEASE.
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January 3rd, 2008 at 2:59 pm
Well, most car companies are guilty of importing/rebadging something in their line-up at some point. It’s just that at the moment, Ford’s small cars are engineered or sourced from Europe while Holden has jumped to Korea.
Daewoo may improve dramatically in time as Hyundai have. We’ll see.
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January 3rd, 2008 at 5:10 pm
Yeah!, I agree Watto_Cobra.
And the only sourced daewoo car i like is the captiva.
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January 12th, 2008 at 6:01 pm
Slick Says:
July 4th, 2007 at 6:43 pm
I’m just so happy as a holden man to see the Falcon finally looks like they got a cluster trip computer finally that will rival holdens, It’s been along time coming, Us holden owners have had years of fun with them dash trips, Now finally Ford has gave the Ford owners something to play around with and maybe give them a digital speedo which is very helpful for not getting booked
THIS GUY SLICK MUSGT HAVE COME DOWN IN THE LAST SHOWER. HOLDEN HAS NEVER HAD A TRIP COMPUTER WORTH TRUSTING. IT’LL GO FROM HALF FULL TO EMTY KM’S IN FIVE MINUTES EVEN THOUGH THE CAR IS NOT MOVING. OH YEAH FORD HAVE USED DIGITAL CLUSTERS A LONG TIME BEFORE HOLDEN EVEN KNEW HOW TO SPELL IT’S NAME CORRECTLY I THINK FIRST WAS THE THE XF FALCON WHICH HAS A CLASSIER INTERIOR THAN THE VE CAPRICE LOL. GREAT CALL ABOUT FALCON NOT LOOKING THE SAME AS BA CAUSE THEY SOLD THAT LOOK TO HOLDEN LOL. FORD COULD’VE AT LEAST GIVEN HOLDEN THE DRAWING OF THE FALCON CAUSE HOLDEN JUST MADE IT LOOK STUPID
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January 14th, 2008 at 10:24 pm
ummm guys I own no Prius LOL
Lexus GS and BMW E46
Why would I want to go back to the ‘good’ old clapped out falcon & commodore days….? LOL
I still say the ‘new’ falcon will be a lemon in the sales department, yer it will go hard for afew months max then holden will release ve mk2 and will pretty much sin falcon for good. Come back and re-read this prediction next year.
I dont think i will look that much different anyway, well apart from a headlight, and rear door upgrade.
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January 14th, 2008 at 10:26 pm
pretty much sin falcon for good….
should read:
pretty much sink falcon for good
missed the k, ok LOL
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January 14th, 2008 at 10:55 pm
Sales don’t have anything to do with success of a particular model Pete, Holden won it’s only real award called Holden Wheels Magazine car of the year and no real other recognizable accolade, the new Ford will be for the enthusiast’s, not people who continuously bag it that is why I’m so defensive and putting Holden Daewoo down, cause they need genuine basher’s like us, I know the Ford will be tops
and will win the important car industry awards leaving VE bottom of the barrel once again….
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January 14th, 2008 at 11:02 pm
“Sales don’t have anything to do with success of a particular model”
LOL what awards pay the bills and keep jobs then? LOL
Funnest thing I’ve heard for a long time!
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January 14th, 2008 at 11:13 pm
Pete If you hate Ford, why don’t you take a hike back to Holdenwoo forums and do your self a great favour by not putting your self down in an argument?
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January 14th, 2008 at 11:18 pm
Do I make myself clear?
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January 14th, 2008 at 11:26 pm
I’m glad I could be of a entertaining service Pete, but those are the facts written in black and white, what made me laugh is your statement: I still say the ‘new’ falcon will be a lemon in the sales department, yer it will go hard for afew months max then holden will release ve mk2 and will pretty much sin(k) falcon for good. Come back and re-read this prediction next year…
ARE YOU FOR REAL PETE, HAVE A GOOD LOOK AT THE WORDS YOU TYPED IN THAT PARAGRAPH, THIS HAS TO THE MOST NAIVE THINKING I’VE ENCOUNTED FOR A LONG TIME…………..
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January 14th, 2008 at 11:38 pm
What are you basing your judgement on Pete??
Ford Falcons have allways been better than Commodores in the past and it took Holdenwoo more than 5 years & 1 billion dollars to just get their nose in front, yet there are still key areas where the aging Falcon is still better than the Billion dollar lemon flop with 4 recalls already.
Hey greg, my last two comments were your style wernt they?
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January 14th, 2008 at 11:50 pm
Yes, very solid OZ, stick the boots where it hurts, around his kidney area, I will back you if he reacts again..
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January 14th, 2008 at 11:57 pm
Both Ford and Holden have had plenty of recalls. The AU had 6 recalls from memory, and three series to fix the issues. I think the VT of the same era had 2 or 3. There’s always problems with cars produced in high numbers.
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January 15th, 2008 at 12:05 am
DAMN RIGHT GREG!!!lol
Pete, my last comment was to show you and your fellow biased Holdenwoo fans some painfull history which is likely to return in may this year…
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January 15th, 2008 at 12:33 am
Importjap, my memory is a little fuzzy. What were the AU recalls?
I remember getting a new brake line during a routine service, but don’t remember the others. Maybe they didn’t affect my model.
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January 15th, 2008 at 1:00 am
Ford AU models have only had 4 recalls not 6 …
1: Product Info: Ford AU Series I and AU Series II Falcon Forte, Futura, Fairmont and Fairmont Ghia, XR variants, Fairlane, LTD, Utes and FTE Vehicles built from 1 June 1998 to 22 May 2001 inclusive.
Defect Details: There is the possibility that inappropriate servicing of the steering rack retaining hardware may affect the integrity of the steering rack mounting stud. Overtightening of the steering rack mounting hardware may degrade the thread locking compound.
2: Ford Au Falcon & Fairlane Vehicles
Product Info: Campaign Srcc176. Built From March 19, 1999 To March 22, 1999 Inclusive.
Defect Details: The Bolts Securing The Upper Suspension Arm To Upper Arm Bushes May Be Affected By Hydrogen Embrittlement Resulting In Suspension Noise And In Extreme Cases, Upper Arms May Separate From The Bushes.
3: Product Info: All Au Models To March 24, 1999.
Defect Details: May Have Incorrectly Torqued Front Spindle Upper Ball Joint Retaining Bolts.
4: Product Info: Au Models Specified With Front Bench Seat And Passenger Airbag, Built To March 15, 1999.
Defect Details: Front Centre Seat Belts Have A Passenger Airbag Warning Label Attached To The Belt Which Prevents The Belt From Being Shortened To A Level Which Complies With Adr.
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January 15th, 2008 at 1:05 am
An emotive subject methinks.
Here’s an outsiders view. Holden Ford who cares (I don’t) I buy what’s suitable for me. Yep both in competition with each other, oh and both losing money faster than Bill Gates makes it. PENI S above was pretty much correct, its all about badges and not the Australian thing to car manufacturers. Think about it population of Australia 20million, Europe population dunno say 250million, USA/Canada 300million say. Do you honestly believe that there’s enough sales opportunity in Australia alone to develop a peculiar model for Oz. Nope not a chance. That’s why we’re sharing platforms and engines (the expensive bits) globally.. live with it. You can hang whatever body work you like on the platform mostly its down to looks. If you could put General Motors/Holden and Ford on a pair of scales the balance would go to Ford but only by a small fraction. I for one didn’t like to look of Falcon but that’s my opinion. The only reason the likes of Holden and Ford sell well is they are cheap and plentiful and have no competition. BMW/Merc/Audi are out of there league both in performance and price. Holden do have strange perception of the Australian market thinking people want re-badged Korean stuff when what would be better is a lightly adapted Euro model like things used to be with the Rekord/Commodore thing, until they realise that its Ford who will benefit of the Markeyt share.
Anyway the Falcon…the interior is definitely not up to Eurocar standards… see the Mondeo as an example.
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January 27th, 2008 at 11:23 am
The thing that gets me… Magazines like “Wheels” and “Motor” will run spy photos of the latest local Falcons and Commdore… They “guess” what the newest models look like, they ask the readers to send in their photographics…
And when the new models are released, they run “inside stories” of their involvement in the project (suspension tune on the BA Falcon was attributed to a team consisting of Ford specialist and “Wheels” magazine journos). They feature pictures of their secret test runs to the Northern Territory, etc, etc…
They did it with the Avalon, AU, BA, VT, VE…
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