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Infiniti aims to beat Lexus and conquest Germans

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Nissan’s luxury off-shoot Infiniti says it is aiming to overtake Lexus in Australia as the No.1 alternative to German brands Audi, BMW and Mercedes-Benz.

Infiniti will become the second Japanese luxury brand in the Australian new-car market in late August when it launches with two models: the FX SUV and M sedan.

The Infiniti FX (below) will be a rival large luxury SUVs including the Audi Q7, BMW X5, Mercedes ML and Lexus RX while the M sedan will compete against the Audi A6, BMW 5-Series, Jaguar XF, Lexus GS and Mercedes-Benz E-Class.

Infiniti FX50S - Front Side

Infiniti has this week announced pricing and specifications for the two models as it seeks to turn “thousands of leads” into firm orders ahead of the brand’s launch.

The Infiniti FX will cost from $83,900 and the Infiniti M from $85,900. The SUV is priced sharply against its rivals, while the entry-level M is pitched slightly higher but both models are comprehensively equipped with standard features.

Infiniti Australia is not revealing its sales aspirations for the market but the company’s general manager, Kevin Snell, said its long-term ambition is to bypass Lexus as the leading Japanese challenge to the established German luxury brands.

“Our take on the middle- and long-term goal is that Infiniti wants to be serious global luxury brand and our target by 2016 is to sell more than 500,000 cars, which by today’s market is about 10 per cent share of luxury,” said Snell.

“We want to do that by getting into about 70 markets globally rather than 40 today and having more than 10 models rather than the 7 or 8 we have globally today.

Infiniti M35h - Front Angle

“By getting a small hatchback, four-cylinder turbo petrol and diesel engines, and expanding our portfolio of crossovers.

“That’s where the business wants to be on a global level.

“Locally we want to be the No.1 alternative to the established European brands. How long that takes in the Australian market is a long-term objective.

“The first two or three years is around establishing the brand, building the customer experience, and get that right and by 2015 we’ll have a comprehensive range of new cars across all the segments.”

Infiniti G37 Coupe - Rear

Infiniti will have only three dealerships initially – in Sydney, Melbourne and Perth. The brand is looking to set up in Perth and Adelaide in 2013 before expanding its number of dealers in Australia’s two most populous cities.

The FX will be Infiniti’s dominant model locally according to the company, with a rival for the BMW 3-Series and Mercedes C-Class – the G-series sedan – to become the second volume model from late 2013.

A hatchback based on the small-car platform Mercedes created for the likes of the all-new A-Class and to be built by Austrian automotive specialist Magna Steyr will emerge in 2014, with a range of crossovers to follow.

Infiniti says its extensive research reveals it can appeal to a generally younger customer base than Audi, BMW or Mercedes, with buyers in their 40s on average rather than the 50s or 60s associated with the German brands.

“In our research,” said Snell, “the younger, more progressive customers were telling us the existing brands, or some of them, don’t refelect their values – they feel like they’re values of an older generation, their parents’ generation, a much more conservative traditional set of values, rather than a modern, independent, progressive brand.

Infiniti G37 Convertible - Front Side

“Our brand being new, without a long heritage and being focused on the future rather than the past, is actually our strength not a weakness.

“Customers want a brand that engages them, so we will position ourselves as a modern, progressive challenger brand not a traditional conservative brand.

“The Infiniti models] are driver’s cars, they are performance cars. And they deliver bold design.”

 

Read CarAdvice’s full coverage of the new Infiniti brand:
Infiniti FX: pricing and specifications revealed
Infiniti M: pricing and specifications revealed

Infiniti Reviews

 


 

  • Daniel

    Doubtless it will be very well equipped, but I think it’s a bit cheeky charging that much as a starting price for the M when even it’s German rivals are cheaper. Especially with it’s droopy looking rear. I like the FX, but I think they’ve got a way to go before they beat Lexus. They also need to make sure that they’re pretty well silent on the inside, that’s why every Lexus buyer I know bought one. 

  • GIG

    I quite love INFINITI, but to beat Lexus and Germans at this price? no way…

  • Dockenna

    Ugly and expensive….why would you bother?
    I was hoping Infiniti would champion a new category of mid-priced luxury car to rival vw since no Japanese manufacturer seems to have got that right yet. Bummer.

    • Pops

      VW ain’t luxury… Although they would love u to think so.

    • Senna

      I think Nissan and VW are on meant to be on the same tier and Infiniti and Audi are meant to be on the same tier. I don’t think they were ever trying to target VW with Infiniti here.

    • Passer by

      Do you mean like Honda, Subaru and Mazda?

  • Peter

    The M is gorgeous in the metal, but at that price I’d buy the Jag XF any day.  It really needs to be 20 – 30% less to make it worth thinking about

  • F1

    Infinit doesn’t beat Lexus anywhere..

    USA June ;

    Infiniti 10,436

    Lexus 20,022

    Acura 15,370

    Audi 12,664

    • Passer by

      I think you’ll find it beats it hands down on personality, driver enjoyment and cool factor. Impressively close to Audi in those figures, I’m sure they’d be laughing if they had a similar result here!

  • Jet

    Well
    we didn’t expect them to come out and say Lexus will kill us each month and we won’t
    steal any of the Germans sales now did we.

  • Tommyyy

    They should have done a 86 move with pricing and positioned themselves at 60k.

    • Passer by

      Maybe they will when they have the right product?

  • nugsdad

    Too Expensive. End of story.
    Another manufacturer (think AUDI BMW Mercedes, Apple, Qantas, ) who think they can charge what the like in Australia.
    Infiniti has no pedigree in Australia and wont command a premium, first Mr Infiniti you need to convince us its not just a modern Datsun.
    Some market feedback for free – at @ $65-70k I would have considered it,  at this price ABSOLUTELY NO WAY.

    • Robin_Graves

      Agree the price is too high but I’d have no probs buying a ‘Datsun’  just as I would not hesitate to buy a GTR if I had the spare cash.  If I was uber rich and had my own car collection it would have a few old Datsuns in there (240Z, 1600, Bathurst Bluebird) but hey, thats not going to happen unless I win lotto.

      At those prices I’d find it pretty difficult to walk past a BMW and buy an infiniti.  At least the GTR is worthy in its own merit and is around 2/3rds the price of its main rivals.

    • Passer by

      Why would they launch a brand below their benchmark pricing in all other countries? Cars are generally more expensive in this market because of the import duties and taxes applied by the government; if you take a usual exchange rate and back out the taxes then you will find most cars in this country are lower priced than in Europe. 
      This is why we drive on such smooth and perfect roads in with other high calibre drivers….
      Not too sure why fashion items are so over priced when they top not fall victim to excessive government fees on their products.
      But I guess you already factored all of this in your comments as a, clearly, very shrewd businessman. 

      • nugsdad

         This is why we drive on such smooth and perfect roads in with other high calibre drivers.?????
        Where are you living when you posted this?

        • Passer by

          Touch of sarcasm…. we share third whorl roads with other drivers that appear to be on a secret suicide pact!

  • Cherycherry

    thought the logo was a Chery

    • Peter

      funny that, I was only thinking yesterday that the Hyundai logo is really similar to Lexus

  • Schn

    It’s possible, I mean their M35h is about 20k cheaper than Lexus’ GS hybrid. Might attract a fair few customers. But… I still doubt it will actually overtake Lexus. It  still contains a bit too much Nissan for my liking. 

    • Jet

      Not 20k cheaper at all. The new GS450h is almost an identical price.

      • Schn

        Isn’t it 120k? 

        • Jet

          100k + on-roads.

  • MINI_CS

    An over priced Datsun for people with more money than brains. 

  • filippo

    I kind of respect Infiniti for going their own way in terms of design, unlike Lexus who try too hard to make their cars look European. 

    • F1

      Sorry but Lexus look very Japanese..

      Take the Lexus IS350 for example, pure Japanese design..

  • Altezza

    Nah…Lexus for me. Nice try.

  • Bd_will

     THe FX is already a model at least 3 years old, so bound to be coming up for a facelift or new model soon.  But have to say, they look a lot better in the flesh than in the pics.  Agressive & unique styling, they are very popular in the US.

  • Aussie

    Infiniti was in Australia around 20 years ago. It lasted about a year before it closed. The few people who bought (mainly Japanese living in Australia) were left with no re-sale value. Buyers beware. The same thing can happen again, i.e. the brand will not survive in Australia.

  • Chest Rockjaw

    What a lot of marketing clap trap and false bravado! Infinity will fail with these products and at these prices.

  • Ymh9890

    Infiniti wll be very “limited”, with its out of date engine technology and design at rediculous pricing!

  • Sumpguard

    UGLY suv!!

  • Edward

    The front of their cars remind me of sofas when theyre being sat on

  • ZEn

    The amazing thing is a marketing person managed to get through a whole article without mentioning social media or an iPad.

  • Maximark2601

    They wish…

  • Lbrinsmead

    I think Infinity will have their work cut out for them here in Australia, considering the small incremental sales made by Lexus over the years.

    • Chest Rockjaw

      Lexus is struggling.., imagine how hard it will be for Nissan to shift these expensive cars.

      • F1

        Toyota isn’t struggling..

        These premium brands have their mainstream brands to cover for them..

        Unlike BMW, Audi etc who rely on massive discounts to shift units..

        I was enquiring about the C300 and when I was told the price I laughed and walked out.. 2 days later I received call with a $15,000 discount and the sales guy even insisted I keep the car for a day to test it..

        I know people who have gotten even a bigger discount..

        Where as with Lexus, their discounts are like $2000