Considering how often the bonnet will be open on this thing for 50k you would think VeeDud could throw a couple of gas struts on it. Rather than an old coat hanger.
SLORE
You, sir, are a tool. And what do you drive??
Legnab
OH he has a VK crummer , but he gets to drive the wifes skoda octavia RS , which is riddled with faults and could explode at any minute .
Captain Nemo
No need for insults buddy. I drive an Octvia RS wagon & I,am aware of whom it’s Daddy was. And you good sir what automotive icon do you drive?
Smart US
no need for harsh word among gentlemen
Legnab
AGREED even the GTI gets gas struts , in 12 months i have open mine twice , just to give it a clean after a long haul ,with it being ultra reliable no need to open it .
Looks pretty good on the move , had my days with a two door prelude , four doors for me .
Darryl
The struts would leak and be of no use fairly quickly
John of Perth
No – my V6 Bora’s done 200,000 plus and the lovely chrome anodised struts still perfect. I have to say every time I see one I want one, but then the head says get the Golf R. Can’t part with the Bora though for some odd reason. There is still an element of quality the MkV’s and VI’s seem to lack against the Mk IVs.
Igomi Watabi
yawn
Robin_Graves
They should have a permanent tow hook on the front bumper as well. At least being FWD it doesn’t need a flat-top. How can VeeDud think that braking a spinning front wheel is going to mask torque steer? At least Ford revoknuckle uses geometry to limit it and the Renault has a proper LSD.
Legnab
It does .
lbrinsmead
There’s a YouTube video of a Scirocco R beating an Evo, WRX, Golf R and a Type R around a track in Japan. So I think it works ok.
Robin_Graves
Youtube says its so, must be true hey? Keyboard enthusiast.
horsie
Robin. since when did you change from being a VW fanboy to using the work VeeDud ?
lbrinsmead
Ah, it’s actual footage of a race…
http://www.facebook.com/people/Pete-Petrass/1299968544 Pete Petrass
I have seen that race, awesome. Robin Graves is obviously a Fraud fan and the focus was not even good enough to be in the race.
Robin_Graves
If you two had half a clue you’d be dangerous. Has other variables such as driver skill ever entered your mind? Just because some video on youtube shows the Scirocco winning, is that the be-all and end-all of the argument? The revo knuckle and quaife LSD in the Focus is miles ahead of the ESC based system in the Scirocco, end of story.
Legnab
Grave robber mine is pulling more torks than the rocco and it works very well , the best is the megane far better than the ford , you stick to comments on dino RWD falcoons , this FWD gear is a bit to modern for you .
Legnab
Wonderfull when you realise your octavia RS uses the same coat hanger strut , aint life strange , maybe because its so reliable you had not noticed this .
Captain Nemo®™
Bungle i know it (the Octavia) doesn’t have gas struts. But i didn’t pay $50k for it.
Legnab
Try $45k pretty close, or did you buy second hand from rubbery carsales , hence no warranty to fix the multitude of exploding problems your having , you should have gone to spec savers .
lbrinsmead
I think the Scirocco is made in Germany, therefore better reliability than made in Mexico or South Africa.
Robin_Graves
They glue the badge on, they wear the reliability results just like every other manufacturer.
lbrinsmead
Correct, just like cars made in Thailand aren’t quite as reliable as cars made in Japan, right?
http://www.facebook.com/people/Pete-Petrass/1299968544 Pete Petrass
The Scirocco is actually made in Portugal. btw do you know what the Ford acronym stands for?
Found On Rubbish Dump
Full Of Rust Dust
F$%ked On Race Day
Robin_Graves
Haw haw haw you are a comedian. So where does being made in Portugal leave the Scirocco on the VeeDud lemon factory ranking?
Realist
I’ve owned a Passat. Beautiful car …………..BUT …………when it needed something done on it I needed to go to Westpac on bended knee for a second mortgage on the house. Now I stick with Japanese – bullet proof!
SLORE
If you can’t afford to maintain a car then you shouldn’t be driving it then should you??? Or get a better paying job.
You are obviously not a car enthusiast.
Robin_Graves
There’s a big difference between scheduled maintenance and problems that happen outside of warranty. VeeDud are ridiculously expensive on both counts.
Legnab
No , never had any expensive services or warranty problems .
Robin_Graves
And unicorns are real
Smart US
are we talking about Passat car enthusiast??? did you take ur morning pill???
lbrinsmead
What happened to the Toyota Avalon TRD or the Accord Type R, exactly..either doesn’t exist or was a flop. The Passat R36 was a capable car and much more sporty than the TRD. So enthusiast material ok.
Jimg
yes I hear you loud and clear , I too have switched to Jap from VeeDud
twincharger
This is one ugly car.Did Skoda design this rolf for Veedud.A VK crummer for me any day.
Legnab
hahah nemo and gary floppy all in the back of the octavia RS with twinbanger .
Garrywhopper
Thats as funny as you get isn’t it, guessing your not married and spend a lot of time on the computer
Noddy of Toyland
I love driving this on the video game Driver San Francisco. Great game I would recommend to all petrol heads.
Dominique Vøn Hütch
You may as well get one in that green, it looks like every other golf in any other colour.
Martin
I nearly died when the sales assistant gave us the options list for the scirocco. Bought a highly optioned 1 series instead for similar money.
Legnab
YUK what were u thinking .
Martin
What a dimwitted comment. What were you thinking?
Legnab
How ugly the 1 series 4 door is , bit too grandma , 3 and 5 now your talking 3 very desirable .
Sumpguard
Whilst I think GelBan is an absolute clown he is right about the 1 series. It’s aweful!!
Legnab
Thanks sumpy , i do admire the optima , very well conceived design , just get the handling dynamics right and a bit more grunt and a big winner .
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=737660467 Kit Ho
125i with M Sport package?
I’m a 1 series convert, after giving it a good look in person and a test drive it’s really a car that grows on you
http://www.facebook.com/people/Pete-Petrass/1299968544 Pete Petrass
I seriously doubt you got a “highly” optioned 1 series for similar money. I was looking at a 118i just before the Scirocco was released and changed my mind. The 118i has an options list of 57 items at a cost of around $51,000 which effectively doubles the price of the car. You claim highly optioned which would mean at least more than half the options list and puts the final price in a completely different ballpark.
The Scirocco has 4 at a cost of around $8,000
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=737660467 Kit Ho
You can get a 125i with M Sport package, satnav and sunroof for 59k, which is not THAT much compared more expensive to the Scirocco. And those options listed are the just notable more expensive ones.
Imo
Quite a negative review there Alborz.
Just don’t quite get it why you gave it 4 stars.
RSC200
Because there is a car called Renault Megane RS 250.
RSC200
There is one thing that annoys me about some reviewers (sorry Alborz Fallah not a personal thing directed at you) why when a Hot-hatch is being reviewed you guys always mention how Harsh the Ride is?
It’s a Hot-Hatch and if it is suppose to handle well it has to have a “Harsh” setup.
Legnab
Correct , megane wins the shoot out with this baby , will be interesting when the ST arrives and the astra , let the hot hatch fight begin .
RSC200
Astra has already been beaten (Eruopean Review) by the Megane RS265 so that’s one down and the ST to go.
But go to say that Eco Boost Technology by Ford is Magnificent, and I do hate the Piranha Front of the Focus ST.
Let’s not forget the Megane RS265 should be here by September, not that the Power figures of the RS250 are not already 265 lol.
http://www.caradvice.com.au/ Alborz Fallah
I agree. However if you want a proper hot hatch that is pure, get the Megane RS. The Scirocco to me is meant to be a more comfortable hot hatch, one that isn’t nearly as hardcore as the Megane, so when the ride is just as firm but the interior doesn’t have the sporty edge like the Megane, it doesn’t make sense. You either go all the way and make it a proper hot-hatch racer (e.g. Megane) or you compromise and give something up for a daily driver (Golf R). Scirocco is right in the middle and that may work for some, but I think it gets the worst of both worlds if you’re after a daily.
Edward
As a hot hatch driver i would have to agree.
dsuhiti
Nice colour, but I prefer a Megane hot hatch.
Golfschwein
It’s gotta be green. Looks better on the road than in pictures.
Dominique Vøn Hütch
Look at the sixth photo in the gallery…fuel consuption 41.5L/100Kms!!!
Smart US
it shows 29.1l/100 – still nice
mightyfour
Why would you buy this car for comfort.
Just like buying an Evo for its soft supple ride.
jr
The 6th picture in the review is of a golf not a scirocco – leather seats and centre console are wrong.
SLORE
You need to go to Specsavers
jr
The picture has been removed since I made the comment. You need to learn to be less wrong.
Robj
Alfa Giulietta better..simple as that.
Johnson
So you are the bloke that bought it?
http://www.facebook.com/people/Pete-Petrass/1299968544 Pete Petrass
The Megane may well be slightly faster on the twisties but I would be a lot more concerned about the infamous unreliability of frog cars than a VW. I sold my WRX earlier this year and actually bought a Scirocco in Viper Green and it is just awesome. I seriously doubt if any of the detractors above have even owned a VW let alone actually driven this car.
As for Martin who nearly died when he saw the options list???? WTF??? There are only 3 options for this car (sunroof, audio and satnav), and more like 30 or more for ANY BMW. On a beemer you can double the price of the car just in options.
But hey haters are just that and will never be convinced whilst driving around in their crumbledoors. More to the point I think jealousy is the key here.
As for the ride when you buy a performance car you have to expect a firm ride. I would not call it harsh, the Civic Type R is harsh, the Scirocco is firm.
John of Perth
mate I’m jealous !
Smart US
well Pete you must be happy about yourself lately… since u can afford to have 2 seater car a) u must be lonely b) player c) a guy w same interest d) w@anker… when you clock 100,000 km on your ride open your pile of advise
Golfschwein
”
no need for harsh word among gentlemen”
Your own words, not mine.
Hung Low
Says captain hypocrite himself!
Golfschwein
Your fascination for me has no end. It’s unfair, really, as I have none for you. Hypocrite? That’s just your mirror talking, Mr Exclamation Mark Man.
Hung Low
Can you hear the violin playing in the background, such a sad little man you are.
Go cry to the moderators again about my use of exclamation marks, maybe they will try to ban me again courtesy of your sensitive side.
Johnson
Do you read what you have written before you click “post”? I assume that was copied straight from Babelfish?
http://www.facebook.com/people/Pete-Petrass/1299968544 Pete Petrass
Don’t give up your day job cause you will never make it as your crystal ball is not working.
Yes I am VERY happy with my purchase, kids grown up and left home, just me and the wife so yes we can afford to have a 4 seater car.
Since I have never kept a car for over 100,000km I don’t care what happens after that. You will probably find that most cars will start costing money, particularly in maintenance, when they get that old because, as is expected, parts reach end of life and wear out. Perhaps YOU could get a better job so you too can afford to change your cars more often.
Robin_Graves
“Frog cars” and VeeDud are just as bad as each other, in fact VeeDud are probably a little worse lately with major mechanical failures not just eletrical gremlins, so that comparison is a draw. ”Frog car” parts are a little cheaper as well.
Legnab
YES i know capt nemo has been telling us about all the failures on his octavia RS what a disaster , why did he buy it .
lbrinsmead
You know nothing Robin, how about looking at the facts on TUV or Auto Express reliability ratings before posting. You’re an embarrassment to this enthusiast website.
Robin_Graves
The ‘facts’ are you can always find a survey to meet your needs. I’ve had plenty of real life confirmation that VeeDuds are as unreliable as a Daewoo yet much more expensive to purchase or repair.
Golfschwein
“The ‘facts’ are you can always find a survey to meet your needs.”
Well, ahem, gosh!! (Golfschwein suppresses laughter and feels a small amount of pity at the same time) We can’t have people doing THAT, can we?
Robin_Graves
I rest my case.
Hung Low
Yes Pete petri dish, we are so envious of a balding aged men with a $50k Vduds. You must look so cool in a green coupe!
http://www.facebook.com/people/Pete-Petrass/1299968544 Pete Petrass
I have been looking at some of your previous comments and you are just a chronic hater, of everything and everybody it seems. I have seen nothing other than utterly negative with a superiority complex thrown in for good measure. So what exactly do you drive? Enlighten us as to what must be the most superior car on the planet, because you drive one, assuming you even have a licence!!!!!!!!!
I bought the Scirocco because I love the car, I love the colour, I love how it looks, I love its uniqueness here in Australia and because I can afford to buy it. I did not buy it because it could make me look cool nor do I claim it to be the best car in the world.
Perhaps you need to take a chill pill and be happy for people who can afford to purchase cars that THEY like because I simply don’t care whether you like it or not. So again tell us what you drive and why???
Golfschwein
Pete, I hear you loud and clear. I’m here because I’m a card-carrying enthusiast of the brand, and of many other cars besides. Others are here because their sole passion is to take endless swipes at people and the cars they drive. Count the posts on this article alone from Robin Graves. You can press all you like, but they will NEVER tell you what they drive and they will NEVER lob on to an article and say, ‘hey I love this car’. It’s beyond them.
It’s a shame, because the site’s creators are genuine enthusiasts who give us immediacy of news and a generosity with pictures. That’s what brings me here, despite the wreckers.
Golfschwein
Pete, I hear you loud and clear. I’m here because I’m a card-carrying enthusiast of the brand, and of many other cars besides. Others are here because their sole passion is to take endless swipes at people and the cars they drive. Count the posts on this article alone from Robin Graves. You can press all you like, but they will NEVER tell you what they drive and they will NEVER lob on to an article and say, ‘hey I love this car’. It’s beyond them.
It’s a shame, because the site’s creators are genuine enthusiasts who give us immediacy of news and a generosity with pictures. That’s what brings me here, despite the wreckers.
lbrinsmead
I agree, it’s called the tall poppy syndrome, it’s a sin and I think it’s more prevalent these days in Australia.
Captain Nemo®™
So Luke just wondering is it only “tall poppy syndrome” when people bag Euro cars like VW?
Is it still tall poppy syndrome when people bag Aussie cars like Falcon/Commodore/Aurion ? love to hear your thoughts on this.
Legnab
Its a vanity thing from the 50/60′s when you bought a holden or a ford , the rest were crappy english cars , then came the jap/euro invasion , they just cant cope with superior machines offering an alternative to a fat old sedan which makes a perfect taxi/repmobile/govt car , no we want a different look , performance , economy , retained value and a fun drive .
JooberJCW
Its tall poppy syndrome because people don’t like seeing others succeed, it goes hand with ‘giv’em a fare go/battler mentality, Australians love to see people on the same playing field. So for someone who can afford a 50k toy and enjoy it many people haven’t got that luxury and feel the need to take a swipe.
bagging the falcon commodore aurion etc is just pure whining.
lbrinsmead
When people bag Aussie cars they are being supercilious, when people bag premium/luxury non-domestic cars they are being myopic. I think there is the right car for everyone, from a hybrid Commodore to a diesel Falcon, wait…they don’t exist yet…come on Holden and Ford Australia, catch up with the rest of the developed world.
Legnab
The grave robber cruises in a grandpa G6E turbonic , wonder whats it worth now .
Garrywhopper
Immediacy of news, generosity with pictures, your spending too much time on here, your talking out your date
Captain Nemo®™
Had a good laugh at your comment Golfie. Your mate Bungle has made way more posts than Robin on this story. All with his usual helping of “paw spelling” sorry mate but the word hypocrite springs to mind.
Golfschwein
I was counting the haters, Nemo. Bangel’s his own thing, and I don’t speak for him. I’ll give him this: he loves the brand and wears it on his sleeve. As for Robin, he’s written 11 out of the 104 comments so far on this story, better than 10%. That’s an enormous effort for anyone to put into something that they hate. You know, if I’m not terribly interested in something, such as the spare tyre deletion from the Toyota 86, I don’t write about it. Robin should be asking himself why he spends so much time on something he hates. It must be making him terribly sick by now. And, secretly (shhh!), he must be interested.
Hung Low
“crumbledores, jealousy, I can afford to buy” you have in just one post regurgitated the same old rubbish that most of the Vag fanboys continue to drivel on here and I am the supposed chronic hater? I think it is your brand sharing ilk that have the superiority complex, because in reality I couldnt give a rats arse for the reasons you bought your car yet you seem to try to define your disillusioned status by querying what I drive?
Like yourself, your new brown nose buddy above, shares the common traits of hypocrisy that runs rife amongst Vw lovers on this site.
Garrywhopper
Pete, do really have “ass” in your last name?
Golfschwein
Are you looking for a home for your whopper?
Garrywhopper
Pete Pooass, ha ha ha ha, I”m go to laugh about this for days, pooass
http://www.facebook.com/people/Pete-Petrass/1299968544 Pete Petrass
Gee you must be all of 14yo with that sort of nugatory dribble. You and your mate hung low are a real pigeon pair aren’t you, both of you too afraid to reveal real names yet ironically hiding behind pretend names referencing large male appendages. Now there are two massive inferiority complexes if ever I saw. We all know those who have to publicly brag about their size usually just have little weenie ones. Hence why you have to troll forums like this making out you are some sort of big expert on everything.
Hung Low
Nice assumptions Pete Pets ass but sadly wrong again. Hung Low is the
name given to one of my cars a modified vintage Cooper S, try getting your mind off men’s appendages for a change when making assumptions and when eating a banana you fraud.
Garrywhopper
Petey don’t be like that it’s just funny cause your name has ass in it, you know like Dan Druff that type of funny.
Ass, hahaha, Pete Pooass, hahaha, ass ass ass ass!!!!!!
Legnab
They are all dills riding around in nemo/barry/twin/fung’s tow trucking searching for obsolete crummers and falcoons , to haul off to the dump .
Legnab
Congrats pete enjoy your new machine , work hard play hard .
Not all of us need to drive a barge , nimble fast personal transport thats economical and will HOLD ITS VALUE .
Garrywhopper
Work hard play hard, right on, yeah yeahhhhhh whoooo!!!!!!! Nimble fast personal transport, cutting edge brother yeah!!!!
Legnab
Not seen too much cutting edge from the bogan ranges laterly , ford just cant be bothered as its about to get knifed and GM really dont care , just another rehash of the VE coming up , stick a new front and back on it , upgrade the ice cream container interior plastics , hey presto a whole new car for the crummerphiles to drool over at the pub .
Garrywhopper
You are one extreme vw owner, got the old chip to give you more of the power, typical upgrade scum gives his car, you are scum.
Barry
Umm Legnoddy.You talk of interior plastics,have a look inside the scirocco.Total overuse of interior plastics,for a prestige european model..
Legnab
Get a grip twinbanger , have you ever stepped inside a VW , thats probably the biggest factor in clinching the sale the feel from behind the wheel is very important .
Every day you get in and at once you are at one with the ergonomics and the quality of the switch gear , let the plebs have their ice cream container dash plastics .
http://www.facebook.com/people/Pete-Petrass/1299968544 Pete Petrass
Thanks dude, nice to see some normal people around here instead of the silly little professional haters in their crumbledors.
Edward
Glad youre happy with your purchase. With so many hot hatches theres one to suit everyone.
I think people expect it to be less harsh because the whole car presents itself as quite sensible, and VW has that reputation.
I have a civic type R and it is definately harsh, but people expect that with the spaceship looks and cockpit inspired interior. Frankly i wouldnt have it any other way
Sonic
Viper green = Best colour on any car ever, in the whole of human history.
Robin_Graves
You need to lay off the soy lattes and strengthen those wrists a bit.
Legnab
Funny seen some pretty horrible colours on crummmers and falcoons that would make you sick , great for resale value which is pretty sick anyway .
Johnson
I’d imagine you would have one very strong wrist.
Robin_Graves
Coming from a VeeDud fanboy that’s a fairly big call, I like it.
Johnson
Don’t know how you have come to the conclusion that I am a VeeDud fanboy, I just read the comments. Love a good keyboard warrior
Golfschwein
Yes, like Popeye’s.
Robin_Graves
Coming from a VeeDud fanboy that doesnt even own a VeeDud thats an even bigger call. The amount of time you spend on your computer when you should be out earning a living I imagine you resemble a fiddler crab crossed with Greg Valentino.
Dominique Vøn Hütch
You crack me up mang, just spat out a mouthful of soy chai LOLZING!
Garrywhopper
Your as big a moron as Bangle, give it a rest
TomW
I don’t know, the lime green feels a bit 2009. I seem to remember Ford Fiestas getting around in that colour then, but they’ve moved on to bright orange.
Jav
What an ugly rear end it looks dumpy!
Ford Fairlane
That’s whats Legnabs boyfriends say.
Martin
There’s a grey Megane 250 in my street and it definitely looks the business. It beats the Scirocco for looks hands down.
lbrinsmead
I’d get this car at the drop of a hat, if I could afford it.
Ford Fairlane
Hay CA why did you drive it on dirt? Now it will need a full service and safty check maybe even a tow truck.
Legnab
I would not take a territory on dirt got enough front end problems just on tar .
Jober As A Sudge
Question: Are there still problems with the Golf engines going “kaboom”? Or has this all been fixed now?
Legnab
A myth spread by bogan car lovers , who hate anybody buying anything but a foriegn owned ford or holden , actually its envy .
Garrywhopper
There are still problems, I recently sold my golf after 10,000kms. The dsg gearbox had to be replaced and the motor had blown. Very disappointing
Legnab
And the faires are in the garden , floppy you have never even sat in a golf .
Garywhopper
I most certainly did and it was a very disappointing experience, major repeat major dramas with engine and gearbox. Of the 12 months I owned the golf it spent nearly 3 months being repaired.
Will never buy a VW again
Legnab
Try again nemo/floppy/twin , another tall story please .
Garrywhopper
You sound just like the dealer, all the wanted to do was deny the problems, poor service all round by VW
Edward
Looks a bit like a Volvo C30
Tarquin, Hair Artiste
Wow, what a cool car… what? The 86 is nearly have the price and handles better? Sorry VW Toyota gets the nod. The game has changed… overpriced sports cars are now on the nose.
Legnab
HAIR SPRAY , stick to comb overs pal , cheap underpowered toy car not in the hunt , maybe the scoobie version with a turbo , makes me laff toyota take the credit for all scoobies hard effort .
allcarsarerips
hmmmm, should i add an insult or a comment about the car?
Garrywhopper
Try not to leave a comment without slurring someones name
allcarsarerips
ok, ive always liked volkswagens. they get good reviews by people that own them but i read what u wrote and im having second thoughts now. I wanted to get a multivan for the family but i dunno anymore. cars are really overpriced in australia.
