• Guest

    early days yet… this car is $19,000 usd base so $24,000 isn’t too bad 

    problem is $24,000 buys you a fair bit of c segment hatch and we’re getting into the relatively sporty slash quasi trendy hatches like the Mazda 3 neo and stuff 

    i like the technical merits of this car but the interior and fittings doesn’t look like $24,000 worth

    wait a while when worldwide demands falls off and toyota are keener to shift and the price may dip closer to $20,000

    as it stands $24,000 may be a bridge too far for people may not see that this is a $16,000 Yaris with a hybrid insides

    • O123

      Agreed, that can be put down to tariffs etc if you really want to as well. So it makes no sense why a normal Prius can’t start at 28k

    • Guest

      So a $16000 Yaris has the specs of a $24000 Prius c? It’s like saying a Golf GTI is a bridge too far for people when you compare it to a base Golf bar turbo inside.

      • TG

        A $22K Yaris YRX would be more comparable to a Prius C than a povo pack YR manual.

  • 440 R/T Charger

    TMC only allocate 1000 units of this for Australia this year….sure shouldn’t be hard to find those buyers…but once it sold out and if you ask me would i like to wait to buy this…sorry there are just too many choices other then Prius c.

  • Guest

    The author of this article failed to forget there was a massive tsunami that hit Japan in April wiping out a lot of stock. Yes it dropped significantly but you can’t compare last years sales results and then say it’s because of poor product. Sales figures are based on registration and if there is no car to register, it doesn’t count as a sale.

    • Johnson

      A tsunami! When? Run for the hills!

    • Sydlocal

      Failed to forget? So do you mean they actually remembered? I couldn’t see any mention of last year’s tsunami…. ;-) TIC
      Also, the Tsunami hit the 11th of March, not April. Plus the reduction of sales by Toyota after the tsunami was not due to “wiping out a lot of stock” but rather lack of parts. A large number of factories that supply parts to Toyota as well as some vehicle plants were damaged quite badly from the earthquake and effected by power outages hence production of vehicles ceasing for a while. It wasn’t a case of already built standing stock being flooded out.

      • Guest

        Sorry, brain not clicking in early in the morning. Thanks.

  • Igomi Watabi

    I know it’s not strictly relevant, but I am not sure why you choose to ignore that the manufacturer uses a lower-case ‘c’. Why does the lower case offend so much.

  • save it for the track

    Much as I would no doubt believe that diesel offerings from VW and Ford would be a superior ‘dynamic’ drive, I can’t help feeling that for purely city work this car seems ideal. I wonder what a real world test of small cars purely in a city peak hour commute (Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane etc.) conditions would reveal in regard to fuel consumption. Given the crawling conditions of the traffic at such times, chassis and steering feel is almost a moot point. If someone wants an alrounder with good economy a hybrid certainly is not the way to go. However, if city driving is the vehicles main use, this Prius c does seem like a good choice. It would still take quite a few years of ownership to come out ahead simply on fuel cost, Prius c vs Yaris (or similar), but I suspect that hybrid owners aren’t solely concerned with simply saving money on fuel though.

    • Jerrycan

      Excellent summary by ‘save it for the track’.
      Also an excellent review by Anthony Crawford, although I think he is mistaken when stating the extra-urban consumption on the “c” is better than the normal Prius. It just makes no sense.

      Diesels are inherently more efficient than a normal (non-auto stopping) petrol car around town. My own, now old tech, diesel claims to use only 0.5 ltre / hour at tickover (rising to 0.7 with aircon on).
      But honestly my manual gearbox and relatively noisy tickover are not best suited to the city, but great on the open road. DPF’s on diesels driven only around twon could also be a problem
      The Prius C is a well priced (at last) hybrid alternative for city commuters,  not bad looking, can carry passengers or a small load, and is capable of travelling interstate if necessary.
      You get a lot of technology for your money but still a bit limited by battery technology.
      Would not surprise me if a plug in version was not just around the corner.

      • TJ

         Jez Spinks reviewed this, not Anthony.

        • Jerrycan

          My bad. My apologies.

  • horsie

    Imagine how quiet the morning traffic jam on any of Sydney’s major roads would be every morning if everyone had one.
    not to mention the reduction in pollution.
    And before someone harps on about a euro diesel being better value. maybe not everyone wants to drive a girly euro mobile.

  • save it for the track

    ‘girly euro mobile’ Really? I never thought of useable torque as being ‘girly’. For an inner city ‘commuter’, say from anywhere in Syndey metro to city for example, I’d say this Prius c would be fine. For those coming from further afield like the Central Coast, Newcastle and the Illawarra and Woollongong, a diesel would be the way to go. Obviously for those that want a vehicle that can tow a boat/caravan/horse float or whatever as well as do the commute to work, such small vehicles are not an option. If someone doesn’t need towing ability and doesn’t have a tribe of kids/family to carry, there doesn’t seem much wrong with a small diesel as an alrounder.

    • Jonathan Cooper

      Are you assuming that someone

  • save it for the track

    Forgot to add though. With the newer/smaller more efficient turbo petrols starting to become more available and prevalent, they are also another option for a more useable alrounder over a hybrid.

  • Ima_Hogg

    That rear end is so ugly. There is not a lot of point to this car. Why not just buy one of those econetic Fiestas because they use the same amount of fuel. I don’t know but I would pick the fiesta econetic If i wanted super good economy on my car.

    • Golfschwein

      The taillights are silly. Toyota forgot to put taillights in the taillights. If I say this car is not to my taste, I’m not dissing it completely. It’s just not to my taste. I’d go a Fiesta as well, or a Golf Bluemotion.

      • Ima_Hogg

        Yes I have to agree. The blue Motion is good but the reliability aspect isn’t great. Like in the article on this site a few days ago people who buy toyotas want realiability more than anything. We all know what volkswagens are like and that is rubbish at reliability. So more likely the fiesta is a better choice.

        • Golfschwein

          Oh yes, they WANT reliability. But judging from what’s happening with Hilux diesels at the moment, as well as my own experiences with a Camry, they’re not always going to get it. I’m not saying VW gets it right, either, also from personal experience. Few get it right, most don’t do massively wrong, I say.

          • Ima_Hogg

            Sorry I forget about you beloved Volkswagen. Trust me Toyota are 100% more reliable than any car VW has made. Camry isn’t that reliable or the Hilux because they aren’t made in Japan. Any car made in Japan Is deemed reliable. Lots more people would own a VW if they were reliable like Toyota.

          • Golfschwein

            Under pressure, you just crossed over into immaturity. I’ve owned both. Have you?

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Batsosi-Busang-Motsepeng/100002297622666 Batsosi Busang Motsepeng

            What is does “100% more reliable” mean ? It sounds like gobbledygook to me.

          • Ima_Hogg

            I have owned A volkswagen Golf, A Toyota Starlet and Toyota Celica. I have also Owned many Japanese cars and an Old bmw.

          • Jober As A Sudge

            A Starlet?! My condolences!

          • Ima_Hogg

            @job As A Sudge What is wrong with a starlet? Best and most reliable car ever made.

          • RegoFee

            what’s happ’n with the hilux diesel ??

        • TG

          The Fiesta is no better than the Bluemotion, reliability-wise. Any Euro Ford goes downhill very quickly once it gets age and kms on it.

          • Ima_Hogg

            The fiesta isn’t made in Europe. Its made in Thialand.

          • TG

            I couldn’t give 2 poos if the Fiesta was made on the moon. It’s still an Euro Ford.

          • Guest

            So that makes them inferior?

          • Ima_Hogg

            Doesn’t mean it is made in Europe if its desingned and engineered in Europe. I admit that Thialand isn’t great but its better than Europe.

          • Hagler

            whole bunch of hogwash!. my in law focus was still good when it had clocked 70,000 miles (120,000 kms) as long as you maintain and service it!

        • horsie

          ROFL , coming from a guy with a Alfa logo on his name!!!!!!

          • Ima_Hogg

            My Alfa 159 is very reliable thankyou very much. I have had it since 2009 and never had one single problem. Don’t comment till you have owned one thankyou very much.

          • Hagler

            Alfa reliable???whole bunch of hogwash. Relaibility survey conducted every year in Europe placed Alfa near the bottom if not at the bottom. My dada and I owned 3 alfas in the 70′s and 80′s. Gulia super 1.3 (bore x stroke 74 x 75 mm), Alfetta 1.8 (80 x 88.5 mm), Alfa GTV 105 series 2 liter  (84 x 88.5 mm)  Engine was fine but those weber , solex or Dellorto needed tuniing as often as a smoker needs to lit up cigarette.
            Everything else was so unreliable that we finally got rid of all of them!. That’s the alfa experience.

          • Ima_Hogg

            @hagler Well my Alfa experience has been completely different. I bought my 159 V6 in 2009 brand new and have not one single problem. I never said all alfas are reliable I said mine was. What car do you drive? I’m thinking about going out and buying a Guilietta for my wife because my 159 was so good.

          • Hagler

            Currently driving a company car, toyota Prado. Never misses a beat. I will never ever buy an alfa. Most timing belts last 100,000 km. Alfa? try 60,000 km. If you like European cars at reasoable price then try the new focus or fiesta

    • jr

      They have been discontinued for Aust

  • Blair Waldorf

    It’s interesting that the base is so well specced, if i were Toyota i would have made an even cheaper base model with only 6 airbags, no keyless entry/start, no foglights and a basic stereo system with no reverse camera for $19,990. Possibly they may do this is sales are not very good?

  • Luke Brinsmead

    It’s quite a good concept, if maintenance costs aren’t too high. I am more a believer in small turbo engines though, less complexity.

    • TG

      Maintenance is the same as a petrol vehicle, there are no components that require servicing on a hybrid, the only exception being the dedicated hybrid cooling system, in which the coolant gets changed the same time as the engine coolant (160,000km).

    • horsie

      yea like turbo’s are so reliable.

      • save it for the track

        turbos are very reliable if treated and serviced properly. I had an 80′s era turbo vehicle that did over 300000km’s without issue. Quality oil used and changed every 5000. I’m sure todays turbo petrols if treated and serviced properly should last just as long.

      • Robin_Graves

        Yeah, minesite haul trucks, locomotives, cargo ships, interstate road trains etc etc are all steering clear of turbo engines – NOT!  Latest bearing tech, water cooling, oil accumulators etc make them very reliable, your view on turbos is very ’70s

    • tommygola

      Maintenance costs are identical to Yaris and Corolla ie capped at $130 per service for three years/60,000km

  • Valet Dabess

    i’d much prefer the hybrid yaris. looks waaaaaay cooler

    • O123

      But people won’t pay 23k for a yaris, they will pay 23k for this however, very good marketing

  • AndrewF

    The article mentions this car is much lighter than the original Prius… well it ought to be, being smaller and all. What I’d like to know is how does its weight compare to the Yaris on which it is based?

  • save it for the track

    From the Toyota website. Top of the range YRX 5 door quoted at 1055kg Tare weight. Kerb weight of Prius 1425kg (tare). Kerb weight of Prius c not quoted.  Hhhhmmmm…. So that would mean then 1425 minus 265 equals 1160kg or 105kg more than a top spec Yaris.

  • John_23

    ugly car should bring  iq to australia

  • Robin_Graves

    I think at this price this car would be a great choice for people who only drive in stop-start traffic 90% of the time.  I think a diesel is a better choice for people who do more high speed travel and carry more weight in the car.

  • http://www.caradvice.com.au Jez Spinks

    For AndrewF, the Prius C weighs 85kg more than a five-door Yaris auto (I did write this is the Prius C news story but not the review, sorry). Among some good points made by many contributors, Save it for the track makes a fair point about this being a car mainly for the city – although Toyota did take us to some windy roads to make a point that this is sportier than the regular Prius, and also it’s fair to say that the cars mentioned – Polo, Mazda2 and Fiesta – that have been made to work well in corners are also great to drive around town in normal use. As for the Extra Urban fuel use point, I believe my review talks about how the Prius C is expected to use less fuel than the Prius in the city, not outside of it – based on official consumption figures. Rgs Jez Spinks

  • Alan G

    “However, although the Prius C is notably smaller, and 265kg lighter, than the regular Prius, some might be surprised to see its official combined fuel consumption is identical – 3.9 litres per 100km.”
    We all seem to have missed one fact here. The Prius c only requires 91 regular unleaded not the 95 premium as required by the Prius. $s/100Km will therefore be less.

  • Enviro

    Why doesn’t some manufacturer do a diesel/electric hybrid? We might see l/100km figures around 2. And why doesn’t a manufacturer of pure electric vehicles develop a battery changeover system. Your batteries are flat—you go to a changeover station instead of a petrol station and clip out the flat pack, and clip in a charged pack, just like your barbecue gas cylinder. 

    • Phuong

      They have already by the PSA group(Peugeot and Citroen) coming to Oz soon, look at the DS5 diesel hybrid.

    • Phuong

      … changeable battery pack has already been introduced by the Nissan/Renault group with the EV Fluence… where u hire out the battery pack.

      • Enviro

        Thanks Phuong–I wasn;t aware but will look into it.
        Cheers

  • HSRboy

    4 spoke steering wheel? 

    No thanks! 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=718252715 Kate Wilson

    So…. just
    wondering if anyone here has bought one? After reading all the comments I have
    not been dis-suaded from my desire to go ahead and purchase one!

    After having
    a Landcruiser from new for 12 yrs and almost 400,000kms without a hitch I am
    sold on Toyota reliability. My kids are now grown and two have Toyotas and one
    has a Mazda 3 – all have been totally reliable and with great ‘look and feel’.
    So I am sold on the Japanese quality.

    I will be using it to commute from Southern Highlands to Wollongong and back
    each day, down the Macquarie pass. I am thinking that this is going to include
    portions of incline, decline and freeway driving. Do you think a driver can
    modify their driving style to achieve good economy from this car used in this
    way? I am also keen to hear thoughts on why Australia has been slow on the
    uptake of hybrid cars? I personally think its because the Prius C has been the
    only one that looks any good!

    My only other concern is the resale value – that said I am mindful that a lot
    can change in 3 to 5 years. More hybrids entering the market and continually
    escalating fuel prices may tip the market?? Thoughts?

  • simon

    Will the high demand overseas ever allow us to cheaply buy this car though? The price is critical – at least untill petrol – and diesel – is a lot more expensive.

  • JJF

    Most civilized countries have generous allowances for low-emission vehicles which makes the TCO (total cost of ownership) compare well for hybrids. These can include free parking, entry to car-limited areas, reduced vehicle licence, etc,etc. Is Australia in this category??

Toyota Prius C Specs

HYBRID : 1.5L MULTI POINT F/INJ - CONTINUOUS VARIABLE - UNLEADED PETROL - 5D HATCHBACK
Car Details
Make
TOYOTA
Model
PRIUS-C
Variant
HYBRID
Series
NHP10R
Year
2012
Body Type
5D HATCHBACK
Seats
5
Engine Specifications
Engine Type
MULTI POINT F/INJ
Engine Size
1.5L
Cylinders
INLINE 4
Max. Torque
111Nm @  4000rpm
Max. Power
54kW @  4800rpm
Pwr:Wgt Ratio
48.2W/kg
Bore & Stroke
75x84.7mm
Compression Ratio
13.4
Valve Gear
VARIABLE DOUBLE OVERHEAD CAM
Drivetrain Specifications
Transmission
CONTINUOUS VARIABLE
Drive Type
FRONT WHEEL DRIVE
Final Drive Ratio
3.19
Fuel Specifications
Fuel Type
UNLEADED PETROL
Fuel Tank Capacity
36
Fuel Consumption (Combined)
3.9L / 100km
Weight & Measurement
Kerb Weight
1120
Gross Vehicle Weight
Not Provided
Height
1455mm
Length
3995mm
Width
1695mm
Ground Clearance
164mm
Towing Capacity
Brake:0  Unbrake:0
Steering & Suspension
Steering Type
RACK & PINION - POWER ASSISTED
Turning Circle
9.1
Front Rim Size
5.5x15
Rear Rim Size
5.5x15
Front Tyres
185/60 R15
Rear Tyres
185/60 R15
Wheel Base
2550
Front Track
1465
Rear Track
1460
Front Brakes
DISC - VENTILATED
Rear Brakes
DRUM
Standard Features
Comfort
Automatic Air Con / Climate Control
Control & Handling
Electronic Brake Force Distribution, Hill Holder, Traction Control System
Driver
Adjustable Steering Wheel - Tilt & Telescopic, Cruise Control, Power Steering, Reversing Camera, Trip Computer
Entertainment
Radio CD with 6 Speakers
Exterior
Fog Lights - Front, Rear Spoiler
Interior
Cloth Trim, Power Windows
Safety
Dual Airbag Package, Anti-lock Braking, Head Airbags, Seatbelts - Pre-tensioners Front Seats, Side Front Air Bags
Security
Central Locking Remote Control, Engine Immobiliser
Optional Features
Exterior
Metallic Paint
Other
Service Interval
6 months /  10,000 kms
Warranty
36 months /  100,000 kms
VIN Plate Location
10-O-17
Country of Origin
JAPAN