2009 Honda Jazz Review
2009 Honda Jazz Review

2009 Honda Jazz First Steer

Honda’s second generation of the cute but practical Jazz is certainly tuned in to the latest market trends in the Australian car buying market.

-  David Twomey

Echoing a common theme of car manufacturers these days the second generation Jazz has evolutionary styling and packaging that builds on the very successful first-generation car, which has sold more than 2.5 million units worldwide.

2009 Honda Jazz Review
2009 Honda Jazz Review
2009 Honda Jazz Review

The changes are subtle and the new Jazz hits the market with the same model line-up, GLi, VTi and VTi-S, as the previous car. In another ‘what’s changed’ move the opening price of $15,990 for the five-speed manual Jazz GLi remains unchanged.

There’s a choice of five-speed manual or automatic through out the range and for reason best explained by Honda Australia Senior Director Lindsay Smalley the car eschews the CVT transmission which is on offer in Europe and Japan.

Mr Smalley explained at today’s simultaneous media and on-sale launch that it was Honda Australia’s belief that local customers preferred the driving experience of a full-automatic over the stepless approach of the CVT transmission.

2009 Honda Jazz Review
2009 Honda Jazz Review
2009 Honda Jazz Review

The decision also allows Honda Australia to configure the car with more powerful engines, 1.3-litre and 1.5-litre, than are on offer with the CVT.

The downside is that Honda has not yet developed Vehicle Stability Control (VSC), it’s acronym for the all-important ESC, to work with the more powerful engines and automatic transmission so we will not see this important safety feature in the Honda Jazz in Australia in the immediate future.

Mr Smalley told CarAdvice that “Japan R&D is working as quickly as possible to develop the VSC to work with our engines.”

2009 Honda Jazz Review
2009 Honda Jazz Review
2009 Honda Jazz Review

Mr Smalley emphasised that Honda had gone for a more sporty driving experience with the new Jazz, wanting to enhance its appeal with a younger market and to broaden the market as the Australian market more widely embraces smaller cars.

The new Jazz is a much more driveable car with sharper handling, more dynamic feel and more responsive engines.

The downside of not using the CVT transmission is slightly increased fuel consumption, but again Mr Smalley defended this saying that “ real-world experience meant the manual/auto choice in Australia is line-ball with the CVT. “

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2009 Honda Jazz Review
2009 Honda Jazz Review
2009 Honda Jazz Review
2009 Honda Jazz Review

Those already addicted to the Jazz will be pleased with the retention of the two-box mini MPV looks, the centre fuel tank (mounted under the front seat) and the ‘Magic Seat” fold flat 60/40 split second row seating.

Honda’s media launch for the car cleverly concentrated on the inner-city and nearby beachside suburbs of Melbourne and while the drive route we were presented with didn’t allow too much examination of the new Jazz’s dynamics it did include a fuel economy challenge.

CarAdvice, for various reason, ended up driving the same VTi 1.5-litre, five-speed manual on both legs and while the outbound leg was a less than perfect 6.0-litres per 100 kilometres on the homeward bound leg we managed 4.5L/100km and saw a consistent period of 4.2L/100km, all in suburban traffic.

2009 Honda Jazz Review
2009 Honda Jazz Review
2009 Honda Jazz Review
2009 Honda Jazz Review

Three variants are offered , a 1.3-litre Jazz GLi and two 1.5-litre i-VTEC models, Jazz VTi and VTi-S. All are Euro 4 compliant and run on 91RON standard unleaded fuel.

Jazz GLi comes with a raft of standard features, including power windows and mirrors, central locking and single in-dash CD stereo. The entry level Jazz has a comprehensive array of safety equipment – ABS brakes with Electronic Brake Force Distribution (EBD), dual front airbags and front seatbelt pre-tensioners are standard.

An optional ‘Safety pack’, priced at $1000, is offered comprising side and curtain airbags, and a multi-information display which includes a speed alarm, trip computer and seatbelt reminder for all passengers.

The mid-range Jazz VTi gets the larger, more powerful 1.5-litre engine in addition to side and curtain airbags, the multi-information display, a security alarm system and a vanity mirror for the front passenger.

The top-of-the-range Jazz VTi-S is given the sports makeover with sport front and rear bumpers, side skirts and 16 inch alloy wheels. Both the GLi and the VTi get 15-inch steel wheels with trim rings.

2009 Honda Jazz Review
2009 Honda Jazz Review
2009 Honda Jazz Review

Honda has infused more power into the new Jazz range demonstrating that spirited performance and light car dynamics need not be dull. Two engines power Jazz –the GLi features Honda’s advanced 1.3-litre SOHC engine, (now with i-VTEC technology) to provide the best balance of fuel economy and lively performance. It now delivers 73kW (up 12kW) and 127Nm, (up 8Nm).

The 1.3-litre i-VTEC engine delivers fuel economy figure of 5.8L/100kms and produces just 138gCO2/km when fitted with the manual transmission.

Jazz GLi has a five-speed manual or optional, five-speed automatic transmission, (unique to the segment) with Honda’s Grade Logic Control.

2009 Honda Jazz Review
2009 Honda Jazz Review
2009 Honda Jazz Review
2009 Honda Jazz Review

Both the Jazz VTi and VTi-S are powered by a 1.5-litre SOHC i-VTEC engine that has an output of 88kW (up 7kW) and 145Nm (up 2Nm). Fuel economy is similarly frugal, achieving a combined 6.4L/100km and just 151gCO2/km in manual form.

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Both VTi and VTi-S are available with five-speed manual transmission and Honda’s new five-speed automatic transmission, which also allows the driver to manually operate the gears via paddles on the steering wheel (VTi-S only).

 

While the second-generation Jazz retains the same suspension layout as the previous generation, (McPherson strut front and Torsion Beam rear for maximum packaging efficiency), Honda says significant improvements have been incorporated to enhance the overall ride quality, handling, agility and ultimately the driving experience.

We certainly found the car quieter to drive, and more responsive at the wheel thanks to the better resolved electric power steering.

Manoeuvring around inner suburban streets and coping with city traffic was a smooth and effortless affair, proving that in the real-world, which most Jazz owners will experience, the new car is “just fine”.

2009 Honda Jazz Review
2009 Honda Jazz Review
2009 Honda Jazz Review
2009 Honda Jazz Review

Inside there are retrimmed seats and a leather steering wheel, while cruise control is also standard on both VTi-S variants – the only model to get this licence-protecting ‘must have’ in these days of speed cameras saturated roads!

The new Jazz is longer (55mm) and wider (20mm) car, but no higher and delivers more space to the occupants of both rows, thanks to a 50mm longer wheelbase and a cabin width increase of 30mm. Honda claims rear knee room has been boosted 40mm and there is more foot-well space up front. The effective cabin width has been boosted to yield more than 40mm increase in shoulder room front and rear.

 

The front screen has been pushed forward 120mm and the quarter lights increased threefold in area. A-pillar’s that are 20mm thinner and revised external mirrors help increase visibility. Honda says rear sight lines, meantime, are improved by headrests that slide into the rear seatback.

The new Jazz is heavier, up to 50 kilograms in some models, but stiffer and stronger and Honda has confidently claimed that it will be five-star rated by EuroNCAP once it is tested.

2009 Honda Jazz Review
2009 Honda Jazz Review

The car cannot achieve a five-star rating from ANCAP until ESP is included in its specification.

Assistant chief engineer on the Jazz, Toshiyuki Harada, said that less than 10 percent of the old Jazz was carried over into the new car, which has better seats, four-wheel disc brakes, the previous model had drum brakes on the rear, and a myriad of other changes.

The Jazz is a major seller for Honda and Mr Smalley is predicting 12,000 a year will join our roads in the future.

 

Given the trend to smaller cars that we seem to have embraced with enthusiasm and the fact that while the Jazz retains its compact external dimensions while somehow enlarging the interior space there’s every reason to believe he will be more than right.

MY09 HONDA JAZZ PRICES

  • Jazz GLi –five-speed manual $15,990
  • Jazz GLi –five-speed automatic $17,990
  • GLi Safety Pack – $1000
  • Jazz VTi – five-speed manual $19,170
  • Jazz VTi – five-speed automatic $21,490
  • Jazz VTi-S – five-speed manual $21,590
  • Jazz VTi-S five-speed automatic $23,920



  • Toyota Insider

    Congratulations Honda on producing what is far and away the most practical “city car”.

    The extra interior space means that it now becomes a serious alternative to the medium and even possibly large family cars for many city-dwelling families.

    The cosmetic changes have also refreshed its appeal. Good one Honda!

  • Reckless1

    Yeah, what a giant step forwards – not.

    Thirstier, no ESP, 2009 model.

    FAIL.

  • Tom

    I really like the blue colour.

  • Lloyd Seaton

    Very disappointing that the auto is an inefficient 5-speed instead of the state-of-the-art 6-speed automated manual box (i-shift) that is available elsewhere.

  • Joober

    Looks good, nice interior, and more room. Agree with 6 speeder which should be a norm with cars these days. but nethertheless, a decent improvement from the last and something to sparkle the eyes of new car buyers.

  • John

    No ESP, not even as an option! Not good enough. Honda can do better – and should have done. What price Honda’s reputation as a technological innovator when Hyundai can deliver ESP on its small car but Honda can’t.

    Obviously the sooner the government mandates ESP as standard the better, as some manufacturers won’t provide it unless forced to. Toyota probably falls into that category as well.

  • Foggy

    Is ESP really that big an issue if most of the driving is done in city traffic?

    Let’s face it, you don’t buy this sort of car because of any sporting pretence. It is a practical city car, and to that end, it is an amazing piece of work.

    If John Laws still had any credibility, he’d say; “Good one Honda, when you’re onto a good thing, stick to it” :-)

  • Baji

    Nice job Honda. Looks like an improvement over the old model. Its a pity about the ESP though. Blame it on the big corporate executives of honda. Every day that the car isnt on the market, Honda loses out on profits. I’d like to see a comparo of the new Jazz against the Mazda 2.

  • http://www.nigelhoneyphotos.com Nige

    THE deciding factor in our purchase of our Jazz in 2003 was the CVT. It made the car go SO MUCH better than the Mazda2 and Focus we drove. My wife only has an Auto license and since its her car mostly we had to get an auto. Though I worry about out of warranty repair cost of the CVT, its far better than a regular AT, and if you want a stepped auto trans it has a 7 speed mode with button (or paddles on later models) so what is the loss?

    FAIL

  • Eddy The Expert

    looks like a pregnant goldfish.

    FAIL

  • Allan

    Used to own a jazz before, and loved it. Only downside is its pricey, but you do get alot more room than its competitors. I moved house over a 2 day period with my old jazz, and only needed to hire a ute on the 3rd day to carry the whitegoods and larger stuff. Boot size is very good, compared to the pathetic ones you get in the other small hatches.

  • Coconutsotong

    Honda Japan came up with a good car. Honda Australia dropped the ball this round. No VSC, no i-shift, no CVT, no moonroof, vti-s interior is the lower grade interior of Jazz in other countries, no climate control.

    Honda Australia FAIL
    Mr Smalley FAIL

  • http://www.nigelhoneyphotos.com Nige

    ^^^ There is a lot of FAIL going on up there…!

  • alphabeta777

    The grille and headlights look ‘pasted on’ if you know what I mean.

  • Iamthestig

    No ESP isn’t a good thing (and I would never buy a car without it and a good amount of airbags etc.) but still droves of people buy new Corollas so if it doesn’t affect the best selling car, I can’t blame Honda for releasing the Jazz without it.

    It looks a OK car but I wouldn’t let my family actually buy one…

  • Joober

    Allan, does the rear seats fold flatly so it gives you real extra space? On my sisters mirage, it does and its amazing how much space you get if you plan to transport something in such a small car.

  • arlester

    Joober: Yes the rear seats fold completely flat.

    To the writer the acronym for Honda’s ESP is not VSC it is VSA. Not meaning to be picky just correcting a mistake.

    Is a good car. drove one and went over some rails lines that normally shake the whole car but hardly felt them in this so ride and comfort has improved ten fold.

  • fasthonda

    Honda will probably sell another 2.5 million of these cars worldwide.The 1.5L engine is quite impressive-infact it has more power(88Kw)and almost the same torque(145Nm)as 1.6L engines.
    Certainly more power than that poor excuse for an engine -the 1.6L in the VW Golf range.

  • Realcars

    It’s all in the delivery Fasthonda!

    I bet the Golf has a flatter torque curve.

    Mini people mover looks.What for?

  • Reckless1

    Fasthonda clutching at thin straws – the Golf is hardly in the same class as the Jazz, it’s not aimed at the station wagon market. Have a look at the Honda AU website – it asks you to “Meet the new Girl in town” – even Honda thinks this is a girly effort :)

    If you want to compare with a VW product, you should probably compare with Caddy Life, but that’s not really in the same class either.

    The Golf 1.6 engine has more torque at 1000rpm lower than the revvy Honda unit and is available with the 6 speed DSG transmission which craps all over the Honda CVT or the Honda traditional auto. I dare say the KW figure in the Golf and Honda at 5000rpm is near enough the same. So, the driveability is worse just as Realcars has mentioned.

    Oh, and all Golfs have ESP.

    So, all in all, it’s still a FAIL.

  • fasthonda

    Realcars- the Jazz is designed to be as roomy and practical as possible it’s a type of “City” car so the design is unlikely to mirror the shape of a Porsche.
    As for the torque,so what?The Jazz may very well have a better spread of torque across it’s rev range anyway.

  • GTRmon

    Hahaha, I love seeing Reckless1 fire up and defend VW. Good effort.

  • http://aca Reckless1

    Realcars, you have no idea what you talking about so leave this to me as you obviously have no clue.

    Fasthonda, i get your point but lets face it, you have as much knowledge as realcars which is not much.

  • Reckless1

    Looks like Fasthonda is using my sig.

  • fasthonda

    Reckless1—Ha! ha!You are being ridculous now.I’ve compared the engines only in my comments and you get your knickers in a knot!
    You mentioned the word fail a couple times as if you have some sort of Divine omniscience about cars.It makes you sound pompous as if your “divine” opinion is THE final say.
    ***”News Flash”***The DSG is not available for the 1.6L.nor the 2.0L.-It seems that at the moment I know a little more about cars than what you have deluded yourself you claim to know :)

  • fasthonda

    Reckless1—Ha! ha!You are being ridculous now.I’ve compared the engines only in my comments and you get your knickers in a knot!
    You mentioned the word fail a couple times as if you have some sort of Divine omniscience about cars.It makes you sound pompous as if your “divine” opinion is THE final say.
    ***”News Flash”***The DSG is not available for the 1.6L.nor the 2.0L.-It seems that at the moment I know a little more about cars than what you have deluded yourself you claim to know :)
    I’ve got to go now-I think I’ll take a drive through the city at 8,000rpm-a tad more exciting than activating the cruise control through the city,now who does that!?!someone we know………any ideas… Reckless1 ???

  • Dlr1

    yes the 1.6 golf engine should have been pensioned off years ago. And i thought the Polo was the competitor for this car from Honda, given that the Jazz is its smallest and cheapest hatch. i don’t mind the styling either, at least its not a boring 2 box design.

  • Realcars

    Unlike u Fasthonda not everyone wants a car u need to wind out to 8000rpm to extract some performance.LOL.

    Jap screamers have always output more kws on paper than many Euros.

    But seeming u are a bit thick and biased I’ll repeat it again for the dummies.

    It’s all in the delivery!

  • Realcars

    Who wants a car that looks like a people mover especially if it doesn’t seat 7 or 8 people?

    As I have said before and I’ll say again there is nothing but crap in this class. Move up to the next class and give these buzz boxes a miss.LOL.

    Fuel is still the cheapest component of car ownership.
    Think about it.

  • Realcars

    Arlester,a Honda that doesn’t rattle your teeth fillings over poor road surfaces well thats a first!

  • Realcars

    Hondas are a good car as long as u can afford to turn them over every five years or sooner from new.

    Part costs are astronomical.Even dearer than other Japs.

  • http://aca Golfschwein

    Realcars, calm down champ, you are being an idiot. Stop the negativity and try acting like a person for once. Who know’s, you might actually learn something new in life.

  • http://aca Golfschwein

    Honda is a leading manufactuer of cars and suggesting they don’t just proves your own stupidity.

  • http://aca Bavarian Missile

    here, here to Golfie. About time someone put Realcars in his place, talk about waffle on. Geeez

  • Realcars

    OK not for me and I’ll leave it at that.

  • http://aca Realcars

    Someone is using my name and i am getting a bit pee’d. Above post at 9.41pm is not me. Who ever it is, rack-off.

  • rocket_v6

    no CVT no ESP major disappointment

  • Realcars

    Oh Dingo u are a thread poltergeist.LOL.

    Drove a NEW Lancer with CVT and it takes some getting use to with the motor maintaining constant revs most of the time.

    I could understand some buyer resistance with CVT initially.

  • http://aca Golfschwein

    Realcars, drongo dingo is cruising around here somewhere so beware. As for CVT, it is easy to get use to so i’m not sure why you found it difficult, it’s not hard, just takes time. Bit of patience buddy unless that is not your fortune.

  • Bill

    I like it and will probably buy one next year.

    It has to be the ultimate non hybrid city car. Cheap to run, roomy and it has a chain cam belt.

    So while owners of Astras, Golfs and Polos are on their second cam belt and third set of rotors and brake pads the Jazz should just about need new brake pads, that’s it.

  • Realcars

    Yeah I agree CVT has it’s advantages.

    IMO i just don’t get the styling/function here.

    Hondas are always nicely finished but they just don’t do it for me IAO.

    Sibling owned a near new Prelude once and cost them a fortune to maintain. Friend had a Legend Coupe and had to have the motor rebuilt at 100,000klms because the oil galleries had sludged up from the previous owner.Not entirely the cars fault admittedly.

  • Realcars

    TIMING CHAIN is a good thing!

    Cam belt service cost a small fortune on siblings Prelude.

  • justin

    Is it necessary to keep adding weight and making new models bigger?

  • o

    honda really dropped the ball.Great accord/eur pricing then this.And if anything it is downspecced no CVT or 6 speed lower level interior no cliamte and no ESC.But i saw a silver one coming in fromt he prot of brisbane {on the train lol} and it was silver and it looked really good but i prefer the taillights that the USA gets to ours

  • http://aca Golfschwein

    O – Honda has not dropped the ball. This is a good effort from Honda and one that should be praised not critised. Besides, atleast it is not a rebadged Daewoo jobb’ie were Holden get thier cars from. Maybe you should read the article again before passing another comment.

  • Todd T

    In this class, I\’d still take a Fiesta. Not as practical, and the fuel economy isn\’t as good, but a better package handling/style wise IMO…

  • Zip

    Oh please whats with the bashing? I think people are forgetting these a small urban runabouts, not V8′s.

    The Jazz is a very practical car that is cheap to run and is very well built. This is what the market needs in a increasingly booming segment.

  • sam

    Anyone who thinks the absence of Vehicle Stability Control is not a problem, doesn’t know what they are talking about.
    I was busting of a new one of these but now it looks like I will be waiting until some time in 2010. FAIL. The old model also had a 7 speed available, why only 5 now? FAIL.

  • ppleOnForumCanBeSuchIdiots

    Gosh, people here do like to give FAILS don’t they. haha how about changing profession and become a kindergarden teacher. Seriously, get a life Sam!

  • reality

    The Jazz isn’t a bad car, especially when looked at for its intended driving environment. Honda’s problem will be how to market it against the current darling,the Mazda 2, and the “default standard”, Yaris. It would be good to see how the Jazz stacks up against them in a comparison. Speaking of which, when the comparison does happen, would Caradvice please incude the cost of standard servicing up to and including 50,000 km? Taking all the criteria into account, my guess is that the Jazz will come in second with the 2 and the Yaris coming in first and third.

  • http://ozmazdaclub.com Ozmazdaclub ZB

    As an owner of a Mazda 2 Genki with DSC the new Jazz has a huge hill to climb to catch up on the leading 3 as with the Yaris, Getz and the 2 streaking away…

    Still would have purchased the 2 over the Jazz…

  • Wheelnut

    Id have to agree Ozmazdaclub.. Mazda; which is one of the smallest Japanese car manufacturers is making considerable ground on the “leaders” in almost every market that they’re in in Oz.
    They offer a range of quality safe reliable cars at an affordable competitive price which have a long list of standard features – not to mention that compared to some of their current rivals [particularly in the small hatchback sector]Mazdas look more modern.

  • Paul Peacock

    So Honda Australia believes that local customers prefer the driving experience of a full-automatic over the stepless approach of the CVT transmission. Well they didn’t ask me and CVT is soooooooooo smooth and has been proven to be more economical than standard auto transmissions. I like the new Jazz and was thinking of trading in until I found no CVT for Australia. I’ve averaged 5.1 L/100kms in the 3 yrs I’ve had my Jazz and in these times of high fuel prices one should save when and how one can. CVT is a way of doing so + plus driving style.

  • My_Two_Cents

    If ESP is the best auto safety invention since seatbelts at reducing death and serious injury then that means it’s better than airbags. There’s no way I’d by a car without airbags so…

    It’s disappointing that we don’t get the more sophisticated engines/transmissions of other markets but it’s still better than the 4 speed autos most of the others manufacturers offer… and think they can charge an extra 2K for. It’s also a 20K car so how many buyers would be prepared to run it on premium if the better Euro/Jap engines were offered?

  • Bluey

    Jazz 2009 already won Japan Car of the Year award. All the really droolable bits are on Honda Japanese website.

    Honda Australia has done a less than stellar job with specification and especially interiors for more than 20 years. Sad that we never get to see the best Honda can do.

    New Zealand gets a lot more interesting Hondas than us because they get direct imports of second hand models. In part our puny market ADRs have a lot to answer for.

  • sam

    2010 should be a good year. Peter Costello for PM and Vehicle Stability Control for my New Honda Jazz. Meh, by then I will probably want something different anyhow.

  • upshift

    ..
    … Well Done Honda! Congratulations.

    I am going to buy a manual one. IMO this design sets the benchmark (again), no doubt other makers will be in tears. Other makers will be trying to copy elements of this design.

    People crying about no ESP couldn’t drive a bayonet through a custard tart, never driven good distances over dirt roads and had to use their own skill and judgment. If you want a clutchless manual buy an auto. Others have to have auto windows as their spiny arms can’t do the winding. Some of you people are complete Drones.

  • t

    One of my cars is a 2002 jazz and i adore the thing, just come back from an 850km round trip with 4 adults on board. used 6.0 l per 100kms at 100km and this includes dropping back a few gears to pass slower vehicles.

    My only criticism of MY jazz is that its god awfully slow! BUT thats my fault for getting the 1.3L

    would LOVE to upgrade to the new one, but cant justify the premium. looks like ill keep this one for many years to come!

  • t

    OH and SAM

    the old jazz’s auto wasnt actually a 7 speed auto at all

    it was a one speed cvt with 7 fake shift points.

    the new auto auctually has “five real gears”

    i think honda went back to the traditional style auto as their cvt was known to have dramas.

  • t

    and TODD

    a fiesta? ford couldnt even manage to put carpet on the back of the back seats.

    lots of cost cutting going on with the fiesta. Not a fan at all. its also very GETZ inside.

    BUT bring on the next fiesta, its going to be a ripper!!

  • t

    oh god 4 posts in a row ( last one sorry )

    BILL

    my jazz has 90 thousand kays on the clock now, and im not worried about it snapping a cam belt ( oooh astra ) and my original brake pads still have more than half left.

    :)

  • Bret

    I’m not a real city car fan, but I can’t see the real need for “6 speed autos” in a car that will virtually never see more than 60 km/h for 95% of it’s life – no big deal.
    Similarly with the lack of ESP, shouldn’t matter for over 95% of it’s life, but that 5%……?

    Anyway, I thought that ESP for new cars was going to be mandatory in Victoria from 2009. Can somebody confirm this?

    Don’t these things sell well in Melbourne?

  • sam

    Thanks T.
    I really love this little car. My only fair complaint it the VSC issue. Its not about being able to drive the thing like a race car. Its about being able to swerve to miss an accident or a Kangaroo or safely crossing that unexpected slippery spot in the middle of a corner without getting sideways or worse still careering off the road. Having driven a few cars with this technology I am completely sold on it. It saved my arse in a rented Maxima once. I remember the arguments about the effectiveness and ability of ABS way back in 1985 as Mercedes introduced it as standard on some of their popular models. Now every car basically has it. Hopefully VSC will go the same way.

  • Jimbo

    Looks a little Mercedes A-class to me, which is not a bad thing.
    Looks better than the old one and if is an improvement over all it should be a great little car as the old one was and still is.

    No ESP is a disappointment, hopefully it will be added later. I know that’s the one feature my current car does not have, a sore point…..I hope I never need it!

  • Fenno

    One of my co-workers brought the Jazz when it was Jap built (paid a bit for it too). Honda then relocated production to thailand and drop the price. Great for new car buyers (if you can live with a slight drop in overall fit and finish) but a pain in the proverbial for anyone who paid full price for the original.
    I would envisage now, that there will be people all for the CVT over a traditional auto and Honda will be in the same boat as before.
    So….Honda should have spent the money re-tooling for traditional auto’s on maybe the ESP that everybody above is so hung up about.

  • http://integra What The ?

    This Honda is far and away better than anything in this class by Toyota……….FAR FAR BETTER !!!

  • TP

    The Jazz is a nice little car…but no ESP is a massive let down (as it is with Corolla) and that dash is certainly interesting.

  • Zip

    I remember people were complaining about the CVT on the original Jazz saying it was gimmicky and people wanted real gears. Now that they’ve reverted back to a improved ‘normal’ AT, people complain again. Can’t please everyone can you?

  • PK

    Wanted to buy old Jazz, but decided to wait for the new one, especially for improved fuel consumption and properly designed suspension. Fuel consumption is actually worse than in the old one, I don’t like the new look and I’m disappointed that there is no CVT and ESP. The price is also badly pitched. VTi is a redundant model. Honda Australia FAILED!!!
    However their failure did not sink the Jazz. It only brough him closer to the competion. Jazz has still powerful features worthwile considering. Magic Seats, Nearly Right Angle Rear Door Opening, Improved Seat Quality, Even 1.3 GLi Auto accelerates with ease from 100 to 120.
    After long deliberation I got him hoping that the official fuel consumption is a mistake and that ESP will be offered free once it arrives – “The Power of Dreams”.

    JAZZ – wounded – but still a Winner!!!

  • terri

    nice! :)

  • i

    Looks good..but too expensive…

  • jesse

    At that price, I would rather go for i30 CRD auto. End of story.

  • Bossman

    Yeah I bought a Jazz for my business but a 2008 VTis auto with CVT at the beginning of the year. I’ve owned & driven many “performance” cars over the years but the Jazz is still quite special in its own way. Hey a Jazz will beat a V8 Engined Corvette through a 100M slalom so its got some sweet handling. That said, the old model suffered from too little suspension travel, CVT was good once moving but took some time to “wind up” from a standstill making finding that gap to merge into trafic tricky. That said, I rather the CVT than the tradtional auto. I sold a high powered manual V8 to get into the Jazz so appreciate what Honda are trying to do.
    This is where Honda have it wrong for the new model: No Bluetooth standard – this is a no brainer guys, the chip costs a few bucks but differntiates the car from the rest of the pack. The number of guys I spoke to who bought a Mitsubishi Triton ute because it had std bluetooth is unbelieveable. It’s a dealbreaker – which young guy or girl doesn’t have a bluetooth enabled phone these days ?
    Second – dress up the VTiS with a decent body kit – it looks really boring, even mine looks sportier than the new one. Check the Mugen stuff out and even offer it thru the dealerships like Subaru does with STi gear. Here’s the big one – the dealers need to be more proactive with the existing customer base. I heard nothing from my dealer about the new car or other new launches this year even though he knows I run a fleet and maybe interested in replacing. This is a no brainer too for Honda Australia – it costs much less to sell to your existing base than advertising to convert customers who have previously bought other brands. Well that’s my rant – time to get on with it. I’ll look at upgrading in 4 yrs time once the new Jazz gets these items we spoke about. Unfortunately I feel it will be less about Honda taking the initiative & doing it but more about palying catchup to Mazda & Toyota as they are the first to do it.

  • Jim

    Tested one today. It’s a fun little car but a bit costly for it’s size. The magic seat is a good idea but I ask my self how many times I’ll need to carry something that only fits on the rear floor.

  • Charlie Whiskey

    I was thinking about replacing my 2005 VTi-S with the new Jazz, but standard auto? I chose the current car only because of the CVT. That’s not the problem, but I find the flimsy excuses for cutting cost an insult to my intelligent as a potential customer.

    No CVT, no ESP, no moonroof, no nav system (all the stuff you’d get on the car in Japan, even as options) or even a bracket to covert the head unit back to standard double DIN (as an extra paid for item)… It’s deeply frustrating that Honda Aust management is so focused on their cost figures above all else. I find it hard to have any product loyalty for them.

  • Oz.

    I’ve noticed how Honda seem to be using intertextuallity for their Jazz ads. I remember the ad for the previous model Jazz, it seemed to a be mock of some kid’s show and now I’ve seen a new Jazz ad recently where its plot has significant resemblance to a Chevrolet ad from the 1950s. Exempt of course, the Jazz ad is animated while the Chevy ad isn’t and the cars aren’t living on the Chevrolet ad like the Jazz ad.

    What they have done is set the Honda Jazz ad in London instead of Paris where the Chevy was set and they both seem to have similar camera angles from the air….Hmm.

  • Oz.

    *Except of course^ Not “Exempt”

  • Leo

    I bought the new JAzz two weeks ago. The car is excellent and far better than corolla and mazda 2. We did test drive of these other two models before purchasing and the difference is amazing. Well done honda!

  • Bruno

    I am constantly amazed at how good the Australian driving public is, especially those who don’t believe that stability control helps them.

    Nearly every person who doesn’t believe in stability control believes that they can control a car in every circumstance. Half the wheels on a bitumen road, the other half on gravel, for example. Swerving to avoid someone or something on the road. (Yes, stability control won’t help in every circumstance, but it helps in most).

    So, do these same people have no ABS brakes, because they can brake better than ABS? No airbags, because they are that good at driving?

    I’d prefer to avoid an accident, rather than have one, and stability control helps in keeping the odds in my favour. Stability control is being mandated by the United Nations, as it is that useful in reducing the road toll.

    Get a grip of yourselves, or are you already doing that….

  • Cello

    I love my new Jazz 1.5 VTI Manual.
    It’s very smooth and sooooooo economical.

    I’ve just noticed a strange running liquid noise, almost like a drain pipe, from the engine when I rev it though. Does anyone know what the heck that is?

  • http://www.dreamtimestudio.com shane

    I don’t know why people are banging on about torque and horse power when your talking about a little hatch, you buy a car like this for ecconomy and so you can carry more than a sedan, plus its incredibly reliable and has a great interior for the price.

  • FrugalOne

    Was on the haonda stand at the MMS and happened to run into a haonda dude employee who does their engineering.

    VSC is on the way for the Jazz, *About* May this year

    Cheers

    F-0

  • Chris

    Can’t understand all the worries about stability control, most of the roads in most of Australia are bone dry most of the time, we lived there for 8 years and noticed how many 4×4 monsters never left Sydney (with or without stability control, hill descent, lockable diffs etc.) but people were still happy to pay a fortune for all those gizmos.

    I now live in the UK and have driven a Jazz for about 4 years now without any drama, great commuter car which gives great mpg and gobbles up an amazing amount of stuff in the boot and even more with the rear seats down. Toyota, Mazda and Ford certainly don’t have a model to match the Jazz in the UK and Europe, it has won the J D Power car owners satisfaction survey almost every year since it was introduced – bulletproof engines and total reliability with only the rear wheel bearing problems to mar its reputation. It’s also selling very well in the USA (as the FIT) as they downsize from their gas guzzlers. And remember, the Jazz is built as an very frugal commuter / everyday car – so there shouldn’t be any moans when it wont do 0-100KM in 6 seconds, or overtake uphill with 4 people on board

  • Nan Ling

    Hey, does CVT have reliability issues compared to a standard automatic transmission. Before you cut me down; I am not a petrol head…just inquisitive!

  • ZZZ

    I drive a 1996 Civic – over a 190K kms – “so far so good…” The Jazz looks like a practical utility around town. Hopefully VSA is on its way.

  • StevoLegato

    Our 2005 Jazz now two weeks out of the extended warrantee we bought has a worn out gearbox bearing after a sedate $129,000 kms. We sold our Mazda 121 after it had done 290000kms and only because it was not airconditioned. Apparently Honda issued a Technical Service Bulletin to replace these and extended the warrantee to 6 or 7 years but Honda Australia will not honour this. Aparently the 3 year warrantee ran out at the end of three years before hitting the 120,000kms mark but the extended 2 year warrantee was only good for 2 years or 40,000 kms and since we reached the three years limit before reaching 120,000kms the extended warrantee was only good for the 40,000 past where the 3 year warrantee ran out. I doubt I would buy another Honda.

  • Trev

    cost me $900 to have my noisy bearings in my first jazz (02) model replaced, at 80 thousand kms. Sold it at at 180 thous kms, and that $900 was the only problem i had in 10 years. The old 02 now belongs to my mum, she LOVES it. 

    i now have an 09, after the service my first jazz gave me, i couldnt buy anything else. 

    Fantatsic car!

    oh and ive had TWO washing machines in the back of it at once :)

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