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2008 Holden VE Commodore SS V Ute Review

By Anthony Crawford |

2008 Holden VE SS V Ute Review & Road test

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Model tested: SS V Ute 6.0-litre V8 Automatic 6-speed
Recommended retail price: $46,990

Options fitted: None

plus.jpg big performance, lots of useable load space, auxiliary jack.
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“Consider this 6-litre V8 rocket, a high speed sports car with a huge load capacity”

- Anthony Crawford

As the father of two kids with a bit of a thing for surfing, I soon got a taste for one of Holden’s finest, the SS V Ute.

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For starters, the Nickel Metallic (silver) V8 Ute is a good-looking thing from almost any angle, especially that from the rear. Those wonderful quad exhaust tips brashly stating, “This is fast, don’t mess with me”.

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It reminds me in some small way of the stylish 1970 Chevrolet El Camino SS454 “Coupe Utility” in the USA, which ran the LS6 454 cubic inch engine putting out a walloping 336kW and 680Nm. It only weighed around 1500lbs and looked better than anything else on the road at that time, bar a Chevy Corvette or Pontiac Trans Am.

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If Chevrolet were marketing a contemporary version of the El Camino, it would surely be the Holden SS Series Ute, with all its variants, including the SSV. Seems that GM was moving ahead with this idea, but not as the El Camino. Instead, the car would have been wearing a Pontiac badge. However, we understand that the plan may actually be on hold, due to one very high Australian dollar.

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And our very own Holden SSV Ute has got plenty of what the US likes best, power and grunt. Then again, I suppose we Aussies like our muscle cars every bit as much as the “good ole boys” in the US of A. When it comes to cubic inches and litres, ‘The more the better’ as the saying goes.

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I also like the respect (or unfounded fear) that other drivers seem to display around the SS V Ute. If you are in anything other than a new XF Jag or Aston Martin, merging from a transit lane into the correct and legal space, is near impossible. Gaps in the traffic are ruthlessly slammed shut like a well planned military operation.

But when behind the wheel of the SS V, all you need to do, is simply indicate and presto, a space magically appears. I could get use to this.

If 270kW and 530Nm isn’t enough for you in a Ute body, then either you have a death wish, or you should seek urgent psychiatric assistance at a reputable facility.

Even with the optional 6-speed auto and weighing in at a substantial 1806kg, this hero-mobile does exactly what it’s supposed to do when you bury the throttle – it launches like no tomorrow. And it keeps going, unrelentingly, no matter what gear you’re in.

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And then there’s that heavenly V8 supercar sound, or so it seems like to me – no need to hook up the Ipod Nano to the auxiliary input, you won’t hear it and you’ll be glad for it.

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Of course, if you feel the need to hang onto those ratios just a little longer, then don’t go looking for the proverbial “power” button. That’s history. Just move the Auto shift lever to the left and shifts will happen in Sport mode. You can also manually shift if you wish – but I found Sport mode to be more than sufficient, even when egos are at stake.

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Does it handle? Yes, but thank God for the comprehensive ESP (Electronic Stability Program) otherwise you could have trouble keeping that rear end on the straight and narrow, particularly in the wet. The program also teams up with Traction Control System (TCS), Anti-lock braking (ABS), (Electronic Brake Assist (EBA) and Electronic Brakeforce Distribution (EBD) and it all works well enough.

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There’s mild body lean on turn in, but then it hunkers down and is well behaved through corners. There’s also decent levels of grip from the standard 19-inch alloys although, I might have expected slightly wider rubber than 245’s, at least down the rear on this particular variant, say 265/35’s for a touch more bite.

And while the steering provides better than average feedback, I found it a little too light at highway speeds and thought that less assistance from around 80km/h plus, would provide more driver connection with the road. Not much of a gripe though, especially for those suburban road warriors and tradies, negotiating malls and tight driveways.

Holden has improved their general suspension compliance dramatically in the last few years. The SSV will dismiss speed bumps without any hint of jarring through the cabin.

With a retail price of $46,990 you probably won’t be lugging around the Oxy/acetylene gear in the rear tray, at least not without some serious panel protection. In any case, the payload is still an acceptable 508kg, but I reckon this area will be used to carry surfboards and other sports equipment, rather than the heavy-duty stuff.

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While there is a huge cubic load space available in the tray, there’s also plenty of carrying space for soft bags and tallish items, behind both the driver and passenger seats. That’s a whole 245-litres, to be precise.

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It’s quite well appointed inside too. No shortage of the usual creature comforts found in well specified sedan offerings. Features include; power windows (although there is no one touch up/down feature, just down), cruise control, Bluetooth capability and an adequate Blaupunkt audio head unit, with an auxiliary jack for the iPod etc.

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Other items specific to the SS V include; Dual Zone Climate Control, leather sports seats, which are very well bolstered on the seat and seatback, 6.5” multifunction LCD screen, Alloy faced pedals, Projector headlamps and a superb sports leather bound steering wheel with scroll style audio controls, which are far more practical than individual volume buttons.

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Apart from the ESP program, Dual stage front airbags for driver and passenger are fitted. Not sure why this vehicle misses out on curtain airbags though.

Holden have developed some great colours for their performance Ute range like; Atomic Metallic (bright green), Redhot, K-Pow Metallic and Ignition Metallic. This thing even looks good in white. Not just any white, “Heron White” if you will.

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I haven’t mentioned fuel economy yet, do I need to? We all know that any 6.0-litre V8 muscle car is just not going to be an economical ride. Period. You might achieve the (ADR 81/01) figure of 14.0 Litres/100km if you drove around in shoes made of cotton wool with a severed achilles tendon, but in the real world, I had to work hard to achieve 17-Litres/100km. It wasn’t much fun either.

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“All in all, it’s a wonderfully versatile and fun drive with all the power and performance you could ever want”


 
  • Tom

    You had to work hard to get 17L/100km?

    Really?

  • Austin

    a car I’d only own if I worked on a FIFO roster somewhere with money to burn on fuel and fun and no daily commute to use it for.

  • klaus

    What a crappy review.

    How lovely and beautiful is this nice silver ute.

    Crap…

    Holden must not be selling too many.

    Let’s see, half ton carrying capacity!! 17L/100km, no intergrated Ipod. Sloppy glovebox, huge dangerous window pillars, bad/poor matching paint front/rear bumper assembly. Outdated 6 speed auto. I could go on.

    The lane space magically appears, what dribble.

    You need to catch up… and get into a real 1 tonner for us real tradies with class.

    That would be the new ford XR6TURBO ute.

  • jfactor

    So which one of the two kids got left behind when you went surfing???

  • Wheelnut

    No Integrated i-pod? I am yet to see a major car manufacturer let alone a major car audio manufacturer release a head unit with an integrated i-pod.

    Afterall the term integrated means that its built-in as an intrinsic essential part of the system and the i-pod is meant to be a compact portable personal music player.

    The majority of standard audio systems in cars these days have an auxilliary port to connect with optional devices such as i-pods or mobile phones be it by bluetooth or cable..
    Although the more premium head units such as those from Alpine or JVC do feature a docking system but that’s for those who are serious about sound and are after a complete custom built in car entertainment system – which your average motorist isn’t

    The top of the range Alpine unit with i-pod control is $800-900

  • jbot

    Wheelnut, I think what Klaus means by intergrated system is that the iPod menus can be accessed via the headunit (which fits the definition of integrated for you). Many cars offer this now.

    Listening to the iPod you were given to do a Hyundai i30 review hey Anthony?

  • jbot

    To clarify what I said, rather than just have the sound coming from the iPod (all songs, etc accessed on the iPod), an integrated iPod connection allows menu access through the headunit.

  • Jon

    How bad is that interior?

  • RaVeN

    klaus Says:
    July 25th, 2008 at 8:17 pm
    You need to catch up… and get into a real 1 tonner for us real tradies with class.

    That would be the new ford XR6TURBO ute.

    xr6turbo is not a 1 tonner. get it right!

  • RaVeN

    who needs ipod integration in their utes anyway!

  • http://www.caradvice.com.au Anthony

    Klaus, whoever you are. Are you saying the SSV is “lovely and beautiful” that’s great you think that, although not sure I would put it like that. Glad you like it as much as the scores of folks who have purchased the car.

    Name for me the list of cars which have integrated Ipod connections – any price will do.

    Never heard on an outdated 6 speed auto but you learn something new every day.

    Bad paint/poor match. Take off those 3-D glasses before you hurt yourself.

    Holden sold a stack load of SS Utes in the last generation and they have already sold a bunch of the new generation ute. Where on earth do you live, not to be seeing these on the road each day.

    Have a great weekend Klaus.

  • http://www.caradvice.com.au Anthony

    Jfactor, the six year old surfs, the sixteen year old sleeps!

  • klaus

    hello anthony

    you need to get out a bit more and into the trenches to write a decent review. Seriously, if this car (not the old model), has sold as many as you think, look again. The dealerships are still trying to off load the early built 2007 stock. They are currently offering 4,000 off the ss v and ss ute at the moment. Not because they are selling, its because they are likely not. (or maybe because the fg ute is about 4,000 cheaper) who know’s..

    Visit your local holden dealer and have a look at the colour mis-match on some of those bumpers. Forget those 3d glasses you own to or you will miss it. For some reason Holden has struggled with this quality issue.

    You only need to drive the new ford 6 speed to appreciate why one would refer to the holden 6 speed in this way.

    But, its not all that bad, there are some really good things about this ute. It looks mean, a bit square, sounds great. Give the red interior a miss. How could one face this every morning ahhh.

    Tip, give us readers a break…when you write a review about the mighty ss ute leave the surfing stories for the kids. You won’t likely see them with surf boards at the beaches for some time yet.

    Your split second hoot review on this car means siltch and was pretty shallow, mate, it really was a little lame and had holden advertisment written all over it…

    It’s probibly time to pull up your journo sleeeves put it in front of a twin axle trailer loaded and see how those dam holden brakes don’t hold up and how hot that 6 speed trans gets.. and thats with the recommend towing pack. Put a cement mixer in the back, maybe a load of pavers or two trail bikes in it.

    Try dragging it around the metro area with that leather for a few months see how that holds up, Try those 19″ rims / tyres on dirt roads for a while. Things like this will give you and the reader a better idea on how this thing performs and show it up for what is really is a ‘show pony’, but I think you may have actually done this anyway….

    Also, what’s the deal with that handbrake. It don’t line up after a while in the off position and get’s stuck when pulled up all the time. You want a real review on this thing go to the workplaces they have plenty to show you. We will also show you the issues some have with the ve ss ute, good and bad. It’s a good thing it’s a good tax write off.

    Apart from that its not all bad and you do good work..

    P.S want the truth :
    the the guys with the fg turbos are having more fun… they refer to them as the a ss v8 slayers, it’s sad i hate them..

  • Golfschwein

    When I was 4 years old, Mum and Dad bought a brand new Holden HK Belmont wagon in the whitest of whites with bright red vinyl seats and door trims. Other choices were light blue, turquoise…am I missing one?

    So I dig the red thing.

  • http://www.motorbeam.com/ Motorbeam

    This car looks wacky.

  • http://www.peterdoylephotography.com Atlanta wedding photographer

    I think that the car looks great but I’m sure that I could find one that had a really good look to it plus great handling and speed. Although I do like the orange color. I think in good weather with the windows rolled down might make to a good ride.

  • Roddy

    I find it amusing how some people totally miss the point of a car….read the review of the W427 and you’ll find a bunch of uninformed fools posting there as well.

  • http://- crouchy

    I really like this car… its not meant for tradies… we all know that. Its a serious show off car and it achieves that perfectly.

    Im only just starting to realise how holden have cut corners with the ve though.. Just little things like an ss badge between the seats as apposed to embroided on the seats. Not to mention the leather in general looks rather crappy.

    But as i said, this car serves its purpose. Get off its back.

  • Dlr1

    Crouchy,
    I think you’ve hit the nail on the head. Its a show off car not a tradies ute. The poor mans Monaro. Not that thats a bad thing either. Its basically the same formula they have applied since the VU SS was released in 2001. Put all the SS go fast bits into the ute and you have a semi-practical sports car, not a real ute.

    But the interior? the red dash is hideous! Shame about that.

  • Frosty

    Klaus, there are many more people driving SS and SSV utes than their are people buying XR6 turbo utes. The specials on them currently are to do with the end of financial year which all companies are doing. There is no shortage of buyers for the VE ute range infact there is a waiting list for them as there is also for the Sportwagon. The XR6 Turbo ute is also a dying breed in its current form due to the inminant discontinuation of the straight 6 of Ford so we will see what Ford do regarding them in 2010. Holden by then will have a direct injection V6 in the SV6 ute and quite possibly a blown one as well as there are already kits available for that at the 6ltr V8.
    Also tradies normally purchase the Thai built one tonne utes so you will find that the Holden has chosen another market that sells and yet it still ca take a decent load. For Ford to remain in Australia they should do something similar because currently it looks like the Focus will become Ford Australia’s number one priority unless Ford Oz do something to warrant interest from potential export markets for their RWD sedan and Ute just as Holden has done. Very strong rumours circulating about a crewman re appearing with the VF.

  • jbot

    Anthony, I know BMW have the integrated iPod systems I was talking about. I’m sure there is many others.

  • jbot

    Even the new Falcons have it (An Ford calls it “iPod Integration” too)!!!

  • Fenno

    At least they have come to the party with the ESP and TRC. Dont like the red dash…could cause a lot of strange in the windscreen at the wrong times…
    In relation to the colour names (Atomic Metallic (bright green), Redhot, K-Pow Metallic and Ignition Metallic). Holden are obviously aiming these vehicles at blokes…Why dont they just call them by the colour that they are. Blue silver white etc…
    I agree with Klaus’ synopsis on the brakes and their inability to last. ‘Bout as much use as a sugar surfboard with this sort of power available.
    (Had to follow on the surfy theme here)

  • Fenno

    insert…strange reflections…above

  • Phill

    Red dash yuckkkk,what will it look like after ten hot summers of sun exposure.

  • Mike Hunt

    The XR6 turbo ute is bland as anything.

  • acfsambo

    The red dash looks tacky. If the center stack was black rather than plastic grey, the red may work better. As said above, this is not a tradies ute, but the tradies bosses ute.

    Besides the dash the only bad thing i can say is that it needs better visibility.

  • Wheelnut

    Frosty – Mates of mine who work at the Holden Factory say the VF Crewman is a goer with particular focus being on room in the back seats which should be possible vith the new LWB platform as used by the WM Statesman,

    Theres even the possibility of being able to extend the tray into the cabin [if required] by lowering the rear seats and bulkhead

  • realcars

    This is one hot looking ute!!!

    Makes a Hilux look agricultural.

    Yeah have noticed the Paint mismatch on Toyota bumpers too lately.

  • jbot

    Wheelnut, a tray that can extend into the rear seats? That I’d like to see!

  • Wheelnut

    Jbot the extendable tray was featured on both the GMC Denali Concept and Toyotas ATV-X Concept which were at the Chicago and Detroit Motor-shows earlier this year

  • http://. Naughtyius Maxiumus

    Iam on JBot’s side as would like to see how that works as seems weird as!

  • Frosty

    It obviously can be done if its been shown in 2 concept vehicles so far but I have to admit I am curious at how it works. Unfortunately haven’t see those 2 concepts or read up about them properly. With it being in a production vehicle it would show that GM are well up there in making concepts reality (not that we in Down Under have not already seen it happen with the VT Based Monaro) but this could really make a big selling point.

  • Frosty

    Further to what Wheelnut said about the GMC Denali, here is a extract from a Caradvice article from 4th Feb 2008

    “The cargo floor measures 1397 mm by 1206 mm and can carry 499kg – the Denali can tow 1587kg (which, as good as it sounds, is less than your standard VE Commodore ute).

    The Midgate can also be lowered to extend the cargo-carrying capacity inside the vehicle. When enabled, the rear seats fold flat to provide a longer floor for carrying items such as skis and surfboards.

    Despite all this, the Denali makes do with a simple fixed rear window to keep the mass and complexity on the low.”

  • Frosty

    In other words it works like a Station wagon with the rear seats down. That also adds more fuel to another thing I have heard about the VF. That being that it will have 60/40 folding rear seats in the sedan as well at last

  • Iamthestig

    Those (very) cheap and nasty LED gauges in the centre dash are absolutely awful. I wouldn’t buy a car just because of them. The coloured dials are also awful to read during daylight compared to the standard Omega ones – pay more and get less ! (visibility)…

    You need your head read if you choose the coloured dash option anyway…

    These aren’t a bad thing but the details let them down.

  • http://magmacrm.com/ fahry

    wow nice post

  • TP

    Honestly I wouldnt buy one cos Im not a ute fan and both Ford and Holden aernt exactly reliable… but its a very good looking car and is finished off UNLIKE the Falcon…. small things like projector headlamps and quad exhausts are nice touched which make parting with $46k not as bad. The Falcon on the other hand, its hard to part with that much money when yes it does what it was basically intended for well… BUT its missing finishing touches to make it worth the pricetag. Afterall thats alot of money, I want a near perfect car for that much, the Falcon falls more short then the Commodore.

  • Andrew M

    guys,
    fords 1999 4 door concept ute had rear seats that folded down into the cabin if you remember correctly or at all….

    its a shame that they culled the idea due to increasing costs. little did they know back then that now people will pay 50K for a 4 door ute.
    the falcon concept was a lot more thought out than the crew man.
    i used to have a link to the ute when it was doing the shows, but unfortunately i formatted my computer yesterday and have now lost the link, but im sure i would be able to find it again if someone wanted to see it.

    on the SS ute……..
    these things are selling in numbers. anyone who debates that is plain silly.
    for me its a pity holden still dont know how to design decent interiors. a decent welcoming interior is really important to me as i have to sit in the thing.
    other than that this is one tidy ute.

    and dont worry fools, tradies do use these kinds of utes.
    they tow trailers behind them so the sides dont get scratched. they are a much better, more comfortable way to get to work than in a japper ute

    holden does sell their utes for less than ford though. i wish i could get my new falcon ute at holden ute prices.
    you wont pay 47K for this at the dealers, i dont care what you say, you wont.
    realisticlly you will only have to fork out 40K.
    they really do do great deals on them

    it is interesting though, that ford is still selling more utes.
    the SS is great buying though.
    BUT PUT A DECENT INTERIOR IN IT PLEASE!!!!!
    compare it so an XR interior and the SS has nothing, Shame

  • Bob

    Here comes TP to save the day with his unbiased and utterly fair appraisal.

    If you didn’t want to spend $46k on a Falcon Ute, then by god you’d be feeling robbed paying for a TRD Hilux.

  • Andrew M

    no way bob,
    the entire TRD range is outstanding value (sarcasm)

  • Tom

    Is TP one of the Toyota fanboys?

  • CapnCrunch

    1800kg for a two door ute?! No wonder the fuel economy stinks. I also think the tray looks out of proportion – looks like a hearse or something.

  • TP

    I wouldnt buy a TRD ute would I… but it would be an attractive option for those in business who will be claim a deduction for its decline in value. I can also understand the premium attached, its a vehicle known WORLDWIDE for its dependeability… while the Falcon is known just in Australia for all the wrong reasons (ie 55% returning to dealer within 5 months)

  • TP

    Its not a Toyota fanboy… the only fairies here are you Ford and Holden folk. You aernt a fanboy when you merely state facts… Toyota has majority market share, surveys after surveys of good reliability, class leading features. All are facts. Your a fanboy when you try to say Fords I6 is a great engine despite it winning…….0 awards. Despite it not being used overseas…… despite it being dumped in the near future. Now those kind of people are fanboys. Face the facts.

  • realcars

    This ute is sooooo much better than a TuRD it isn’t funny.
    Can actually make the most of the power at hand safely!

    Sad thing is that many Turd owners will find the Turd dynamic limits too early! Just hope I am not coming the other way when they do.

    Pretty irresponsible of Toyota if u think about it.

  • Earl

    It just looks to overdone, to tryhard

  • Andrew M

    here we go again,
    TP sying the TRD Hilux is a great proposition yet he has never even driven a base model hilux yet alone a ute!!!!

    just keep defending blindly TP you are going great!!!

    oh,
    and just keep clinging to your opinionated survey results like Radar (from M*A*S*H) with his teddy bear.
    we know thats all you toyo tools have

    when i buy a vehicle i want something that is great to drive and gets the job done better, not some worthless piece of paper.
    ah, but what ever turns you on i suppose

  • http://asiacar.blogspot.com/ zam

    Look to recent fuel make me thinking twice to buy a new car.

  • TP

    I dont need to drive a Hilux…. millions of customers around the world speak volumes for the Hilux. It has an international reputation as being a rugged vehicle, like all Toyotas. I doubt many people overseas would have even heard of a Falcon and if they had, it would be for all the wrong reasons (unrelaible Aussie car)

  • http://www.worldofsolutions.org/extras/questions/wos-fuel-quest.htm TJ Short

    Wow man I am just reading your interview with Yaro you did in 2007. Checking Holden epica and found your still number 1 on Google. Interesting enough your a neighbour up in Brisbane and I did not even know about the site until today. I am going to sign up as you seem to have a great approach to a topic close to my heart.

    As a way of saying thanks if you or your readers head over to one of my sites, Australian solutions check out the goodies and want some just drop me a line there and I will see what sort of deal we can do.

  • The Axe

    Funny how TP appears everywhere to attack Ford and Holden… Mustn’t have a life or you work for Toyota. Which one is it??
    Not everybody likes Toyota, not everyone will. They are boring, lifeless cars to drive. Toyota has also given little regard to safety in some models EG: No ESP on Corolla, Camry was late to get ESP. Skinny tyres on practically all models Ford was first with ESP on an Aussie built car with the Territory, Holden the first with large cars.
    Toyota is riding a wave like GM and Ford have for most of the last century.
    While there have been many pioneering things Toyota have done, they will always be under threat.

  • Minnow

    I have to agree with Klaus on the paint, look at the 5th picture from the top, the shade of silver changes to a darker grey near the SS badge and in the middle of the door. How dodgy is that??! Dont to me its the light..

    • Iceydicer

      If you enlarge the picture you’ll notice that 1: its metallic paint and 2: that “discolouration” is because the angle of panel changes and then changes back 1cm later. In person, I can say that the line you referring to actually adds well to the lines of the car, just not in a photograph.

  • http://www.caradvice.com.au Anthony

    That’s exactly what is is Minnow. I took those pics at 7.30am one morning trying to capture different shades of the metallic silver due to light.

    I certainly would not have said that the paintwork around the vehicle is mismatched. If that were so, Holden would be flooded with requests to right such an oversight, would they not?

  • Golfschwein

    Have a look around any new or used car yard and it won’t be long before you spot the plastic bumpers of a different shade. Plenty of makers have this problem, not just Holden.

  • GhisGT

    About the paint, paint primer is different from the metal primer. Every car maker has this issue, have a look next time your on the road at other models.

    Some colours are worse than others. The red the Aurion comes out in is also quite obvious. It’s not Toytota’s or Holden’s fault, it’s life.

  • realcars

    My Grand Carnival is gold in colour and bumpers match the rest of the car perfectly.

  • Wheelnut

    I just can’t wait to get my VE Ute in a couple of months

  • Wheelnut

    Frosty – Imagine a slightly modified VE Front end [with more of a sloping bonnet]; rear end on the Denali along with longer rear doors and that’s pretty much what the new VF Crewman will look like

  • Wheelnut

    In response to your question Tom – is TP a Toyota fan boy the answer is YES? …. as evidenced by his reply

  • Wheelnut

    I have only seen ione TRD Hilux on the road – even then I had to look twice as there are no distinguishing features to make it stand out from a regular Hilux. [unlike a Maloo does]

    The thing is it had the number-plate TRD… yet I’d say the reason he got TRD is because he couldn’t have S–T

  • TP

    If you cant tell a TRD Hilux from the regular Hilux you shouldnt be driving….your blind

  • No Name

    Love it (apart from the red inserts on the dash, way too pimpy). Just wish GM and Ford would bring these things into Euroland with a decent diesel engine.

    Now comparing this to a Hilux TRD is wrong, thats 4WD how about Toyotas 2WD limp wristed Hilux. Ha Ha
    mmmmm the Hilux – isn’t that the one that can only pull a
    2250Kg trailer against Fords Ranger at 5kg under 3 Tonnes.

    Awww whatever

  • Glen

    TP, this is a review for a Holden product, fair enough you gave your view but have now done your usual “Holden & Fords are unreliable and Toyotas are perfect” speech, stick to the subject.

    Plus those surveys are in reference to what percentage of vehicles have returned to a dealership for a warranty claim. It doesnt mean how many cars have had a mechanical failure which would count as being unreliable, whereas a warranty claim for say a radio not working (which is outsourced from a different company) is NOT an indication of reliability. Plus those surveys don’t mention how many of those warranty claims were rejected for wear and tear items which aren’t covered, such as brake pads and spark plugs (don’t laugh people will try and claim them) you take those surveys with a grain of salt, I go by the what I see happen at my place of work which has a service garage and the only cars I seem to see the most for repairs are Holden Astra’s and Toyota Camrys. No bias here they are what I have seen. Yes I have seen Falcons and Commodores there for repairs 2 but not as many as the Astra and Camry

  • Golfschwein

    Wheelnut, I reckon the bloke got TRD as a number plate because it was still, uh, available. It hadn’t been SNAPPED UP! If ya know what I mean.

  • The Axe

    Hey TOYOTA FANBOY AKA TP, funny how you ignore posts that have some real facts..

  • Wheelnut

    The TRD was Jet Black and the tacky racing stripes doewn the side were graphhite [almost black] The TRD emblem is recessed into the grille which was u guessed it black the wheels where similar to that on standard Hilux but also black-ish
    So it looked like an All Black SR-5 Hilux – I mean if TRD were proud of their procut they’d make it stand out a bit more.. or the badge at least

    BTW: Did I mention if got beaten off the line by a Bus?

  • Andrew M

    wheelnut,
    and im sure that at the same time the bus driver rolled over in laughter at the tacky TRD badging,
    the TRD Hilux also rolled over trying to get off the line.
    (they tend to do that)

  • Wheelnut

    Lol beaten off the line by a bus… your not one of those people who thinks he has beaten a Ferrari in a race with is 80s Falcon?

    Glen I dont think I brought the TRD Hilux into this… my original post was comparing the Commodore ute with the Falcon.

  • Andrew M

    ^^^^^TP,
    you forgot to change your name back.
    ooooppppssssss

  • Wheelnut

    No its me, Wheelnut

  • burt

    wheelnut are you realcars!!!!!! because you are both daiwoo loving w**kers that wouldn’t know a great car if it ran over you! or maybe one already has, ha! ha! ha! ha! ha!

  • Wheelnut

    Theyt say that imitation is the most sincere form of flattery
    However TP; [wonder if that stands for Tiny P---s?]….
    If you are goint to use my name in the hope that it will get you more respect than the scherrick that you have at the moment you might want to think a bit more before hitting the keyboard.

    I mean when you set out to copy someone or something and fail as you have/are it just makes you look like a bigger idiot than you already are… Because I suspect that most people on this website who have been on here for a long time can tell when its me and when you are trying to be me

    For starters I have never praised Toyota as much as you would like to make out that I do [all of a sudden] and don;’t think I ever will..

  • burt

    i would take any model hilux or trd hilux over one of these s**t boxes any day of the week, as a builder we need a reliable 1 tonne ute with go and show not a 1/2tonne fuel gusling wanna be 2wd at a hilux sr5 price! it great to see one of these things stuck on a black soil worksite and watch a hilux pull them out! gotta laugh!

  • Golfschwein

    Even if a TRD Hilux looks ridiculous, Burt? Even my local community fish n chips wrapper gave it a bum rap, in addition to the one given it by the experts.

  • burt

    golfschwein hey sh*t for brains!! i take you have driven one you tosser! as i said give me a hilux any day over one of these sh*t boxes!

  • burt

    golfschwein i just got it! you must be one of the guys i pulled out of a bogged worksite hope i didnt bend your front bumper to much! ha! ha! ha! ha!

  • Golfschwein

    Is there some reason that work sites have to be the domain for these vehicles? If you get that, then you’re right. You’ve just got it.

  • Golfschwein

    Oh, I just read your first post, where you insulted me. That was unsophisticated and unnecessary, but I guess it’s the only way certain personality and IQ types rise to a debate. Did your mother suck the devil off to beget you?

    Now look up beget, moron.

  • burt

    ha! ha! ha! ha! golfschwein your not one of realcars mates are you! and you want to talk about insults, you have insulted hilux drivers numerous times so buddy what comes around goes around! MORON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • GhisGT

    Have a Hilux over one of these?

    Depends on what you do I guess. Generally, I’ll take comfort, looks and performance than a rattly, rough and rugged HiLux.

    Oh and Burt, whatever hole you crawled out of, piss of back there eh little fella? Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!

  • Golfschwein

    I suppose that’s true, Burt. I’ve never understood why people would buy something that’s unattractive and drives badly but, HEY!…That’s just me, I guess. Each to his own, and all that. :)

  • http://Cargocentral.com.au Car Salesman

    Burt,

    Just because he doesnt like an oversized rough as guts bag of crap Hilux doesnt make him a child but i think your earlier acknoledgement of expert was a bit closer to the truth.

    Why dont you go for a drive in your precios hilux and hopefull it will rattle some sense back into you.

  • Andrew M

    the hilux (and all jap utes to be precise) is an absolute pig to drive.
    you dont know what the hell you are talking about.

    how do the brickies go pulling around 1 tonne of sand in their hilux? well, they dont.
    they get the tougher falcon ute to do that.

    hilux’s have gutless motors.
    perhaps you could tell me why they gear the ratios so close???
    thats right, because they have no grunt to pull a load and must compensate by using painfully close ratios that ensure uncomfortable driving coupled with massive fuel bills.

    you arent a builder so cut your crap. firstly stop changing your name because you arent fooling anyone.

    who in their right mind would be silly enough to take a SS commodore ute to an area where they know you need to lock some hubs in?? and how many building sites are at places where 4wd is needed? (not bloody many apart from rio tinto??????)
    it just doesnt happen. vehicles being pulled off of worksites just doesnt happen as often as you say.
    the vehicles that get bogged on worksites are delivery trucks.

    you will see the likes of SS utes pulling trailers aroung worksites, and pull a trailer is something an SS would do far better than any Hilux.

    just to show how great the hilux isnt,
    how about you perform a little experiment for us all.

    go and measure the depth of the chassis rails on a falcon ute and compare it to your hilux.

    grab some log books and compare the torque levels of the diesel Lux to the petrol falcon

    and also grab your smallest hilux (the 4cyl single cab) and compare the fuel economy of that to the big 4.0L falcons…….

    is the hilux not looking so great now???

    come back when you have a life

  • burt

    andrewm so your a ford expert! can you tell me why then that when you buy a falcon ute for say $30,000 today keep it 12 months and if your lucky you may get back $15,000 (and thats if you trade it in on new falcon) buy any model hilux and good resale value is guaranted! i have never read so much ford s**t in my life! so buddy how about you get a @#@#@ life!

  • http://porsche Millatime

    I thought this was a Holden ute review….??

    Who gives a stuff about way overpriced (which is why their resale APPEARS to be so good, they start out priced so much higher than anything else) and over rated Hilux’s anyway???

    If you’re dumb enough to buy an overpriced Hilux you also need to call into the local moto-x shop and buy a kidney belt to prevent you needing dialysis later in life…

  • burt

    another expert ha! ha! ha! ha! ha! your so funny!!!!!!!!

  • http://porsche Millatime

    Truth hurts Burt

  • Andrew M

    BURT,
    maybe i am an expert on fords,
    but one thing for sure is that you arent an expert on anything.

    a falcon ute will not lose 15K in 12 months.
    as much as you keep wishing that it will, it simply doesnt.

    ive had my falcon ute for 5yrs now, and have had 12K thrown at me with out having to go into negotiations yet.
    not bad really if you ask me

    whats a 5yr old Hilux worth???
    dont try and tell me they only lose 1K in that time

    i also didnt know that if you bought a hilux they give you a written guarantee that in 12 months they will give you 99% of your money back when you trade……
    thats not bad. pffftttt

    ive driven a lot of different utes, and one thing is for sure that i wont ever purchase a dog of a jap ute.
    why would one shell out money for a car that is a handfull to drive.
    its bad enough having to battle trafic on the way to work let alone in a vehicle that makes you battle even harder.

    once again,
    cut your act you Dingo…..

  • Golfschwein

    Years ago, Andrew m, my employer gave me a Hilux SR5 to replace my Commodore wagon.

    My sales territory was in WA’s north west, so they figured the ute will be tougher and more economical than the Commodore. Well, I hated, but it’s probably still going somewhere.

    One day, I decided to reward the firm for buying me this soft-at-the-front hard-at-the-back bucking bronco that I didn’t want or need, by refilling at Nanutarra Roadhouse and driving flat-out to Paraburdoo, two and a half hours inland, at 140 km/h with the air con on full, just to see what she’d do.

    It was all out at 140km/h (or maybe it was me, I forget now) and returned the magical fuel economy figure of eighteen miles per gallon, or 15.6l/100km. It was a manual 5 speeder, too.

    I know everything you tell us about the gearing of these things.

  • Andrew M

    have you tried 2nd gear into corners in a jape ute Golfie?

    dont do it, its deadly.
    you are near on compression lockup if you do.

  • Golfschwein

    Been there, done that. I conjured the words “compression lock-up” a split second before I read them in your following sentence.

  • Andrew M

    golfie,
    what about the light as a feather steering, and 40 turns lock to lock?? ha ha ha ha

    and thats WITHOUT a load on the back

  • Andrew M

    yeah…..
    give me this SS over a dog of a jap ute anyday…..

  • Golfschwein

    All of that, Andrew M, not to mention the huge turning circle.

  • Duck

    Whats the tray dimensions? Im sure it’s bigger than the outgoing VZ.

    The VZ Holden Commodore ute must have been really sad if it only had 90L of storage behind the seats. The Commodore ute (VE) has 245L behind the seats and the Ford Falcon’s (FG) has 235L of storage space.

    I love this ute! I wouldnt get the coloured dash though, specially in red. IT probably would turn pink if sun is exposed to it for over a long period of time.

    Though why is the Load capacity of the SS V Ute less than the SS Ute?

    Wheelnut, what VE ute are you getting? SV6,SS, or SS V? I’m guessing it will be a V8, so is it the standard SS? What colour, is it leather, what other options etc?

  • Andrew M

    Duck,
    the VE tray is smaller.

    the notable difference is found from having done away with the compartment/space under the rear window in the tray.

    in a nut shell, that odd bit of space that was once in the tray, has become part of the cabin.

    its pretty much the same as what ford did near on 10yrs ago

  • Wheelnut

    It’ll be a 6 Speed Auto “Karma” SS V8 with leather; tinted windows and rear indicators.

  • Andrew M

    aahhh,
    the old point and shoot hey wheelnut? (auto)

    ha ha ha ha ha

  • Bavarian Missile

    Point and shoot Andrew soooo many cum backs on that but I wont Ill behave. You more of a do it yourself type of guy ha,like to go manual babe?hahaha

  • Andrew M

    what sort of a deal did you wrap up wheelnut?
    price wise….

  • Wheelnut

    Andrew; All up including on road costs rego etc it’ll cost me a little over $45k.. with no trade-in

    Then there’s the cost of getting the Remote Controlled Roll-A-Back Tonneau Cover fitted and painted

  • Duck

    Niccceeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!! Wheelnut have you got any other cars you drive/own? You know so you dont use the ute all the time or to take more people than 1 other person?

  • Andrew M

    Duck,
    who wants to carry more than 2 people??

    thats the whole point of buying a ute.

    oh, i almost forgot……..
    Good stuff DJR!!!!!!!!!

  • Duck

    Ha ha so funny Andrew M

  • Wheelnut

    The Ute will be used for my mobile car detailling biz..
    It will also help carry furniture etc for BM when she opens her Antique shop [which she has always wanted to do]

    However; I also have an ’02 Subaru Impreza RS Sedan which produces approx 150Kw due to a few enhancements to the intake and exhaust.

  • Andrew M

    Wheelnut,
    you will have to come over and give my ute a scrub then.

    i havent had time to polish it as much as i used to lately.
    it needs a good detail soon, because as soon as i get a bit of free time ill be off to the dealership for a trade in.

    that will be the time when i bid farewell to yet another trouble free, well served falcon ute.
    (but apparently they dont exist, just ask you know who)

  • Wheelnut

    Sorry Andrew because BM’s the first in line to be Buffed and Polished…. Wax on – Wax Off…. A Bit of a Touch-Up

  • Bavarian Missile

    Touch me up ? Where?

    2 seater only,mmmmm wheres the pita-pata of little feet going to sit?

    • morgan

      no where…

      thats why you wouldnt buy a ute.. ha ha

  • Wheelnut

    Touch you up: In the back of the ute; and the bedroom; and the kitchen; and the lounge room and; the pool table and the….

    The Pita-Pata of tiny feet: That’s what the Subie is for babe or even the AWD V70 T-6.

  • TJ

    Ok so the Hilux has what to do with a SS-V ute?? You’d buy those two cars for completely different reasons, why compare??

    Personally I’ve just ordered a VE SS-V. It’s silver, 6sp Manuel and doesn’t have the red interior (stuck to Onyx!). I didn’t buy it as a ‘work ute’ (24yo female with an office job) I bought it because it drives awesome, looks hot and is a lot of fun!
    We have another (VE SS) at home and am using 14l/100kms with normal driving, can’t complain too much.

  • Jason D

    Ive spend some time reading these comments and I have never read so much bull*&$t in my life.
    I am absolutely convinced now that review responses are a complete waste of time.

  • Slick

    Holden have not made a secret about there utes being for play more then work. Yet time and time again it’s the same old shit written up by death people like post 3.

    But anyway, If this ute is shocking for it’s payload, What do we think of the FPV utes with a even lower payload?.

    On th A pillars, So dangerous that no accident has been recorded anywhere because of them.
    Most people don’t even know they are thicker then any other car. You would need to tell them first, And then they more then likely wouldn’t care.

    But this Santa Klaus i think he shouldn’t have posted, Clearly he has issues before he wrote a single thing.

  • http://www.images.google.com.au ryan

    its funny what you all say because i live in a town were tradies are everywhere! and i swear everyone of them either has a ve ss or a hsv. its pretty good actually and they tow massive trailers .. oh about the interior and paint if you read your car manuals correctly it will state that the car should be garaged as much as possible to prevent sun damage. leaving your car always in the sun is just showing the disrespect for your car. handbrake was also made on the ve like this to suit lhd and rhd so yea

  • h8ford

    FORD’S is a bucket of shit

    Holden way betta lookin n has to be Australia’s best Car.

  • Bret

    Do any of you guys actually realise that with both the Ford and Holden hot utes, the payload limitiations are actually caused by the load ratings of the low profile tyres?

    And H8**** , why don’t you actually try contributing next time, instead of being a total waste of space.

  • Leafspring

    Wheelnut – you got your SS ute yet – whaddya think?

  • geh

    To TP: Remove yourself from the gene pool, stupid moron.

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  • Shak

    One question. Why does a ute that doesnt have any rear seats, or the rear part of the roof, or the rear doors for that matter weigh about the same as the sedan equivalent. Shouldnt it weigh about 200kg’s less without all that exrta metal around the rump?

  • john a

    shak,the extra weight comes from the bracing and stiffening of the chasis from the doors back,as you are aware the roof and rear structure does all that on a sedan.

  • Pat

    I really like the new VE Ute. AM looking at getting a MY10 SS with 6 sp manual in Voodoo blue. What do you all think of that colour?

  • http://preview.tinyurl.com/yaunsuw DAZR

    SINCE this pic was taken: http://preview.tinyurl.com/yaunsuw – I had the remote-locking hard deck (aka boot lid) added. It has a nifty LED light too. This is after the Holden ByDesign one allegedly didn’t pass muster. This is my second SS Ute and first SSV, because it’s a new model. No-one could tell me what the V meant. Holden, no-one. So I now deduce, after nearly two years of ownership, that V being the roman numeral for 5 denotes the price point of another $5K over baseline SS.

    Missing is the rear ‘parcel’ shelf and added was cubby-bins under the floor.

    The brushed aluminum gone from the VY an ad added extra on top of the top range for the SSV.

    No lower door sill guards just above the rocker panel.

    Why have the embroidery of the floor mats right in the wear position!

    The other changes over the VY are substantial, so no point repeating them here.

    Major points to Holden (apparently) listened to my feedback. Better speakers over the old 8 Watts or something equally ridiculous. To 100+
    This is the first Holden I’ve owned without recall issues or warranty/build issues of any kind. Worth the four month delay in delivery 2007/08.

    The cabin with its dark roof and ‘Spiderman’ inspired dash, mimicking somewhat cheekily the mods I’d done to the old VY. I added the hard-deck, but didn’t need the wing I purchased for the old one to keep the arse (an ass is a donkey) firmly planted on the tarmac.

    The oil/battery gauges see, a bit overstated, unless it’s one of those multi purpose ones, which somehow is an accessory I haven’t yet purchased.

    Thankfully the tyres have come down in price from over $700 in the course of the drive to $380. Fuel economy around 11.8 in my experience. Speedo is calibrated to scare you at high speeds making you think you are hooning, when you maybe in fact not.

    A real head-turner, a neat package. If Holden went the turbo diesel route a whole new market would open up for this baby.

    Utopia.

  • http://www.befuelsaver.com.au Alan (Befuelsaver)

    Thought I’d add my 2 Bobs worth here in favour of the 2008 SSV Ute I have just acquired. After driving round in a Rodeo Crew cab ute for 5 years and the crap fuel Economy off that, I have to say I’m rapt with the SSV as getting a better Fuel Economy than the Rodeo.
    Mine is the 6 speed Auto and Super responsive , a drive up to Smiths Lake near Forster and Back last Saturday after plugging in THE PANTHER , I travelled there and back cruzin’ between 110 -125 kph with a couple of spurts there too but wary of the Speed Cameras etc too, and arrived back in Sydney with Fuel just under a quarter tank. With the last of it run out around the City, I ended up doing 570 Kms before it said Low Fuel . I had an Average 10.8 Ltrs /100 kms, so figure I at least saved a litre per 100kms with THE PANTHER plugged in.
    Love that UTE,
    Smittoon

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