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Subaru suspends 2.5-litre turbo sales

By Alborz Fallah |

Subaru’s once bullet-proof 2.5-litre boxer engine has hit its first issue with the Japanese company suspending the production and sale of all vehicles powered by the four-cylinder turbocharged engine.

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The vehicles which were built between 8th of January and April 5th this year include the new Forester XT, Impreza WRX and WRX STi as well as the Liberty GT. Altogether 1233 vehicles could be effected.

Thankfully only 171 of the 1233 have been sold to customers and none have yet suffered any engine issues (such as engine knocking noise).

However in overseas markets several reports of “Engine Knocking Noise” have been reported and initial investigation has confirmed an internal wear issue on the failed units.

Details regarding Subaru vehicles affected by the issue:

  • Forester XT – chassis 002070 onwards
  • Liberty GT sedan – chassis 038385 onwards
  • Liberty GT wagon – chassis 068148 onwards
  • Impreza WRX and WRX STi – chassis 015006 onwards

Subaru has decided to issue a quality assurance action (instead of a recall) in order to avoid “possible damage to the engines of potentially affected vehicles”.

“Therefore, in the interests of preventing any possibility of engine damage, we are isolating any potentially affected vehicles from sale until the cause and correction are identified,” a statement from the company said.

Current owners need not to worry unless the issue arises.

“As far as Subaru Australia is aware, no customers have reported instances in Australia, but if any are forthcoming, they will be given a loan car until their vehicles can be checked and, where necessary, fixed,”

Naturally aspirated and 3.0-litre boxer engine vehicles are not affected.


 
  • Duck

    ************************PRIMO************************

    I beat Frugal One…………………………….poor,poor Subaru!

  • Frugal-One

    Indeed you did Duck! :-)

    Like i said, a VERY OVER RATED brand, WILL improve once BIGT takes over

    Cheers

    F-0

  • Flying High

    F-O is very over spoken about a subject which she obviously knows nothing.

    There is nothing Over rated about Subaru. About as good as it is going to get with car companies.

    You could even go so far as to say the Big T coming in may have cause the problem in the first place.

    :-)

  • Carl

    First UGLY!! Now this?????

  • http://caradvice.com.au Chris Parr

    The diffrence is subaru actually acknowledges the problem
    and resolves it straight away, unlike other manufacturers
    who know about inherent problems yet choose to do nothing about it until the owner complains!! ie(holden,kia,nissan)

  • http://www.myspace.com/tjantilag Tom Jakovljevic

    The 2.5l EJ motors have never been super reliable as relayed by the writer of this story.

    Bore warp ftl!

    Be real Subaru, gives us the JDM EJ207 goodness we deserve.

  • Reckless1

    Well, well, well – as soon as Toyota has a hand in things, engine reliability suffers.

  • http://aca Dingo

    God some people speak utter sh*t !!

    No wonder the typical Holden/Ford freak is a common dart board, they are CLOWNS.

    Toyota has got nothig to do with the development of Subatu engines. How running scared are these idiots of Toyota just because the BIG T is screwing the ar*es out of your beloved Holdens and Fords with thier size 20 Steal Capped Boots …. ooouch !!

  • Anthonii

    Reckless1 Says:
    Well, well, well – as soon as Toyota has a hand in things, engine reliability suffers.

    Dumbest most ill informed thing i have ever heard…

  • Frugal-One

    Chris Parr

    BIGT did the right thing, they withdrew both the RAV6 and TRD Aurion from sale till *issues* where fixed.

    Cheers

    F-0

  • Bavarian Missile

    Um What the Hell Dingo………Its about Subaru not Holden Ford or Toyota ! Do you get some sort of kick back from Toyota if you mention their name on every post?

  • http://aca Dingo

    Bavarian Freak … EXACTLY – It’s about Subaru not Toyota so why the negative comments about Toyota … durrr !!

    You really do wallow like a lost missile.

  • http://. Naughtyius Maximus

    DINGO states obscurely….”thier size 20 Steal Capped Boots …. ooouch !!”

    NM response. You have TP’s problem. Shyte spelling and weird mindset! As for reality….do majority of people where Size 20 as your average figure is high. Like your comments mostly…..high! Get it!

  • troy

    Wallow like a lost missile?

    do you have a catchphrase generator? LOL!!!!!

    Strange noise coming from the engine??? that IS the engine…. stranger noise coming from the exhaust if u ask me :p

  • Captain Mainwaring

    Have you children finished yet?

  • Reckless1

    My feelings have been hurt. How can a feral dog say my comments are dumb.

    I’m really TP using a different sign-in like I frequently do, to make sure Toyota gets mentioned in every post.

  • http://realcarsbigpond.com realcars

    Dingo the dingbat at it again. Where are the Nascar stats u
    flacid flanker?

  • Sunny

    one thing about subaru is that they accept that they made mistake and are taking steps to fix the issue..

    unlike VW and other prominant car makers

  • http://realcarsbigpond.com realcars

    I quite like the look of this.

    Subarus are excellent value considering u get the real deal AWD and the excellent horizontally opposed boxer engines for the same price as oppositions FWDs and sewing machine engines.

    Very torquey engines for what they are. A characteristic many aussies find agreeable. Very reliable and long lasting.

  • PoisonEagle

    Subaru makes the best sounding mainstream 4 cylinder IMHO, and at the risk of being branded a rice-burger the only instance where I enjoyed the addition of a ‘cannon’ was on a Subaru boxer. Cannons are still totally gay though. Maybe we should get the peakier 2.0 litre turbo to replace the 2.5.

  • Jamie

    Anyone else noticed (lurkers?):

    caradvice = great news/articles yet very bad comment system/user base.

    Nothing but complaints and put-downs, poor form. I just end up reading the article, then skim thru comments to actually find something insightful/genuine.

  • MrGriffon

    Good point poison eagle, perhaps the WRX should get the 2.5 turbo and the STI should get the rev-happy jap-spec 2.0

  • http://AustralianCarAdvice Dingo Supports Toyota Motorsport

    Realcars – a 1st and 3rd for Toyota in NASCAR last weekend in Texas thanks to Kyle Busch and Denny Hamlin of Joes Gibbs Racing / TRD USA.

    More racing this weekend coming in Phoenix so will proudly state the results.

  • Here we go again… :(

    Dingo: This a thread about Subarus, not Toyotas. I know it’s hard for you, but for once, leave the keyboard alone.

    Nobody here cares or wants to hear the total $hit you dribble little man, go and flog over your TuRD Hilux while I wait for it to blow the F*uck up just like the TuRD Aurion.

  • http://caradvice.com.au Chris Parr

    The 2.5 turbo boxer engine has been around a few years now
    and has been extremely reliable so far, this is an isolated incident to a small build of cars, which says to me its probably just a production line fault on a certain batch where a robot/computer had the wrong settings or a fault. Which has obviously been fixed and doesnt affect any earlier examples..as i said before good on subaru for rectifying the problem straight away ,unlike other manufacturers ie(holden,kia,nissan)..

  • Titan

    Very true Jamie, there is an extremely vocal minority on this site that constantly try to force their version of reality on everyone else. Unfortunately they masquerade under various names to try and appear more than they really are. It’s a shame really because it totally undermines the quality and perception of this site. It is no longer a regular on my list of favourites and I know as word gets around I’m not the only one.

  • Ivan

    I believe that car advice is trying to be indifferent, which is a very big plus IMO. I hate those site reviews that slams this brand or that brand because they simply don’t like it.
    Let US (not U.S.) do the slaming and share our experience with the vehicle (subaru in this case).

    This site is stil my favourite, and reading the posts gives me a more open mind and respect about people’s opinion on cars, while I stand firm on my own.

    Anyway, about Subaru, I do agree that they should bring the 2.0L turbo back into the Oz STI. If you can’t take the lack of mid-range torque, just shift down and floor it. Otherwise don’t buy the STI.
    Too bad the emission laws prohibit their imports.

  • TP

    Flying High what an idiot you are… trying to claim this is Toyotas fault. If anything Toyotas input has been to suspect sales, unlike others, to fix the problem before it spirals out of control (see Commodore 3+ recalls for reference or Falcon diff and transmission problems… or just read the stats, Falcon and Commodore LAST in quality and reliability idustry figures)

  • Wheelnut

    Isnt it ironic Subaru are having problems with Turbos and Toyota [Subarus major shareholder] is having problems with Superchargers

    Whilst Ford and Holden haven’t had any problem with either Turbo or Superchargers.

    Even Lotus haven’t had any problems with Turbos on the Exige – and they use Toyota engines

  • Wheelnut

    Subaru bolted a turbo onto the 2.5 Boxer to take power up to approx 160Kw for the WRX.. yet I have been able to get a noticeable inrease in power from the standard 110Kw in my 2.5 Non Turbo RS by adding a performance air filter and cold air intake

  • http://realcarsbigpond.com realcars

    RP u forgot to mention all the probs Toyota have had on various models over the years. Would list some but couldn’t be bothered.

  • http://realcarsbigpond.com realcars

    …and tell us where we can view these ” industry figures”.

  • http://realcarsbigpond.com realcars

    …and when was a recall letting things spiral out of control. Doesn’t Toyota have recalls TP?

  • TP

    Oh gooooood Wheelnut you are one of those people who think adding a K&N filter (which lets more dirt into the engine) and a CAI (often less efficent then the intakes that come standard with most cars these days) adds 50kw. How about 10kw at the fly… if your lucky.

  • jamison

    Not that big of a deal, warranty will cover it.

    And actually, I would actually expect Subaru to do more recalls.. not for mistakes or “problems”

    but potential problems… Toyota policies might be kicking in.

    Thats why lately, a lot of recalls against Toyota’s name has been issued, a lot of them are not “real” problems or serious, but basically anything that isnt “bulletproof”…

    a lot of manufacturers don’t follow the same suit… and most of the “issues”, are again supplier issues…. not by the manufacturer themselves.

  • Wheelnut

    So when the engine seized in the TRD Aurion and started a fire that was a Potential problem was it

    And TP: as for K&N filters letting more dirt into the engine etc… then why do WRC teams use them or similar ones like BMC as well as a number V8 Supercar teams

    Are you just annoyed that you can’t get K&N air filter let alone a CAI for a Camry

  • hyper

    Recalls are common practice & some handle them better then others, its whats done with the QA process after the fact to ensure a similiar issue doesnt happen again which is important, subaru & more over the big T have the least defaults per 1000 units shipped then any other car Manufacturer in the world. Their lean manafacturing methodologies are second to none in the world. Like them or not, they are amoungst the most reliable cars in the world, notwithstanding current issue, or peoples total dislike for the current style of subie

  • marz

    i was thinking of getting a sub with the 2.5 liter engine but now its put me off the brand im made my mind on which car it the lancer ralliart now

  • aw

    Marz,

    There are no problems with the Subaru engines. This was precautionary, and done early enough so that the problem could be dealt with promptly before it arose within some of the Turbo engines. The Naturally Aspirated engines are still working fine, and are very reliable, and so are the turbo ones. It is a pity some car companies couldn’t follow their suit and fix the problem early, or halt sales for a short period to fix the problem. Are you listening Holden and Ford. It is called customer service

  • marz

    Aw

    yeah i know and its true what you said is customer sevice
    i went any way to sit in one a few days a go to small for me im just a 6ft 2 gaint so i was not that comfortable

  • AW

    Marz,

    If the impreza was too small, did you look at the forester. I am 6ft and had plenty of room in it. And normal Forester XT is about the same price I think, same engine, but with a bit more room.

  • marz

    no i havent but i will gie it a go

  • Dave284

    Wow only just found this article and given the problems with my Liberty GT am glad I did. Here is a story for you:

    Purchased a 2008 Liberty GT Tuned by STi in August last year (2008). After 4 weeks of ownership the engine started making a knocking noise. Took it to the dealership and they were acting very surprised and telling me that they had never heard of this before and that Subaru Australia are shocked and sending a replacement engine immediately (the old “don’t worry sir we are REALLY looking after you”). So the engine gets replaced and when I ask what happened the service manager tells me that they drained the oil and metal flakes came out and they have found that the big end bearings were busted. Ok I think, well I have a new engine now so must have just been a one off right!

    Well fast forward to yesterday and I am sitting stranded coming back from holidays still 1000km from home. Engine started making the EXACT same noise on the highway. So was left sitting on the side of the road with my wife, 2 kids and a small dog trying to find a number of anyone that could help. It was a Sunday and every 1800 number had a recorded message that they are closed on Sunday! So I had no option but to drive another 50kms to the nearest town and book accommodation for the night so I could call my dealership when they open.

    Now I keep reading reports that this engine problems is very minor and only a small number of engines were affected. Well I have now had two engines with this problem so I am either the unluckiest person in the world or this problem is more widespread than Subaru want to admit.