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	<title>Comments on: VE Commodore diesel confirmed</title>
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		<title>By: john woods</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/9882/ve-diesel-confirmed/#comment-167612</link>
		<dc:creator>john woods</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>4.0Liter Barra 182/190 will still beat it for torque and power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>4.0Liter Barra 182/190 will still beat it for torque and power.</p>
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		<title>By: Um</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/9882/ve-diesel-confirmed/#comment-104529</link>
		<dc:creator>Um</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont care how long it take to get my money back from driving a diesel. it&#039;s not the issue. If you test drive a diesel manual like i have you would not go back to petrol engine. i just got a brand new I30 diesel it blows much large cars of the lights with only 1.6. Now that i own one (a diesel)i can say this &quot;why would any one buy a petrol engine car&quot;. 3.0 commodore diesel would be very close to 6.0 petrol over the 1/4 and drink sweat FA. with so mauch torque and if thay get the gearing wright it will be one very quick car. as for the 4.5l dmax diesel humm a bit of over kill if you ask me. i cant see why you would need that much torque unless if you are planning to tow a 747 and then the car may not tow that much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont care how long it take to get my money back from driving a diesel. it&#8217;s not the issue. If you test drive a diesel manual like i have you would not go back to petrol engine. i just got a brand new I30 diesel it blows much large cars of the lights with only 1.6. Now that i own one (a diesel)i can say this &#8220;why would any one buy a petrol engine car&#8221;. 3.0 commodore diesel would be very close to 6.0 petrol over the 1/4 and drink sweat FA. with so mauch torque and if thay get the gearing wright it will be one very quick car. as for the 4.5l dmax diesel humm a bit of over kill if you ask me. i cant see why you would need that much torque unless if you are planning to tow a 747 and then the car may not tow that much.</p>
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		<title>By: OZMAN</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/9882/ve-diesel-confirmed/#comment-74941</link>
		<dc:creator>OZMAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 08:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frugal one:
The price gap for diesel has blown out recently because China is stockpiling diesel to guard against problems during the Olympics but still only 22 cents if you shop around.  That won&#039;t last long.  Diesel is not as expensive to refine as petrol but the low volumes in Oz are said to contribute to the higher price.  That gap will narrow as diesel cars are more common, especially when GM and Ford release a diesel. 

I&#039;ve had several vehicles on LPG and yes, it’s cheap to buy but the conversion is still quite expensive even with the subsidy.    Have you considered the increased engine wear from diesel and the valve problems?  Both cause additional expense and reduce engine life.  Diesel engines last longer than petrol engines and compared to petrol engines using timing belts (not chains), the servicing costs over 90000K are much less.

I’m still in the queue for a Commodore diesel and if there’s an option for the 4.5 litre diesel I’ll pay the premium!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frugal one:<br />
The price gap for diesel has blown out recently because China is stockpiling diesel to guard against problems during the Olympics but still only 22 cents if you shop around.  That won&#8217;t last long.  Diesel is not as expensive to refine as petrol but the low volumes in Oz are said to contribute to the higher price.  That gap will narrow as diesel cars are more common, especially when GM and Ford release a diesel. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had several vehicles on LPG and yes, it’s cheap to buy but the conversion is still quite expensive even with the subsidy.    Have you considered the increased engine wear from diesel and the valve problems?  Both cause additional expense and reduce engine life.  Diesel engines last longer than petrol engines and compared to petrol engines using timing belts (not chains), the servicing costs over 90000K are much less.</p>
<p>I’m still in the queue for a Commodore diesel and if there’s an option for the 4.5 litre diesel I’ll pay the premium!</p>
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		<title>By: Golfschwein</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/9882/ve-diesel-confirmed/#comment-74697</link>
		<dc:creator>Golfschwein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 05:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing new there, Frugal One. Even at now 30 cents higher than ULP (you can usually find a narrower price gap than that), price parity remains at the traditional 15-20%. Nothing&#039;s happened to make me feel like a loser yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing new there, Frugal One. Even at now 30 cents higher than ULP (you can usually find a narrower price gap than that), price parity remains at the traditional 15-20%. Nothing&#8217;s happened to make me feel like a loser yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Frugal One</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/9882/ve-diesel-confirmed/#comment-74692</link>
		<dc:creator>Frugal One</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 04:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SIMPLE [and cheaper] solution.AND can be had TODAY!

GEN4 on LPG, more power and performance than a DIEsel, complete different league full-stop!.

Made in Australia fuel, $2k back from GovCo

Green and clean fuel too

winxwinxwinxwin!

Cheers

F-0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SIMPLE [and cheaper] solution.AND can be had TODAY!</p>
<p>GEN4 on LPG, more power and performance than a DIEsel, complete different league full-stop!.</p>
<p>Made in Australia fuel, $2k back from GovCo</p>
<p>Green and clean fuel too</p>
<p>winxwinxwinxwin!</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>F-0</p>
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		<title>By: Frugal One</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/9882/ve-diesel-confirmed/#comment-74691</link>
		<dc:creator>Frugal One</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 04:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All NOT good,

DO - THE - MATH!!

DIEsel has cracked 0.30cpl MORE than ULP, they do it because they can get away with it.

DIEsel will break through $2/L by XMAS.

I expect the gap between DIEsel and ULP to get even larger [LOL more than Premium PULP!]

DIEsel MUST go up on 01/01/2009 because the sulfer level is being reduced to EURO ?? level, simple math needs more refining, costs more to do, and it will have to passed on to the consumer.

One day soon the hoodwinked blinker-wearing blind buyers of DIEsel will twig and we shall see a flood of cheap DIEsel powered vehicles that nobody will want to buy.

THE SIMPLE ANWSER IS THE AUSSIE-MADE-FUEL L*P*G

Cheers

F-0

PS With high fuel prices will anybody want a large-aussie-sedan anymore?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All NOT good,</p>
<p>DO &#8211; THE &#8211; MATH!!</p>
<p>DIEsel has cracked 0.30cpl MORE than ULP, they do it because they can get away with it.</p>
<p>DIEsel will break through $2/L by XMAS.</p>
<p>I expect the gap between DIEsel and ULP to get even larger [LOL more than Premium PULP!]</p>
<p>DIEsel MUST go up on 01/01/2009 because the sulfer level is being reduced to EURO ?? level, simple math needs more refining, costs more to do, and it will have to passed on to the consumer.</p>
<p>One day soon the hoodwinked blinker-wearing blind buyers of DIEsel will twig and we shall see a flood of cheap DIEsel powered vehicles that nobody will want to buy.</p>
<p>THE SIMPLE ANWSER IS THE AUSSIE-MADE-FUEL L*P*G</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>F-0</p>
<p>PS With high fuel prices will anybody want a large-aussie-sedan anymore?</p>
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		<title>By: um</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/9882/ve-diesel-confirmed/#comment-71603</link>
		<dc:creator>um</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 22:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personal would buy the Diesel if it cames with a Manual transmission. I have vt wagon  and i can&#039;t upgrade it because manual are not offerd. I refuse to downgrade to an AUTO. Don&#039;t be lazy like the american, Drive, and enjoy your car don&#039;t just sit in it. if you are buying a car to just sit in it dose it matter what engine is under it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personal would buy the Diesel if it cames with a Manual transmission. I have vt wagon  and i can&#8217;t upgrade it because manual are not offerd. I refuse to downgrade to an AUTO. Don&#8217;t be lazy like the american, Drive, and enjoy your car don&#8217;t just sit in it. if you are buying a car to just sit in it dose it matter what engine is under it?</p>
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		<title>By: OZMAN</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/9882/ve-diesel-confirmed/#comment-68899</link>
		<dc:creator>OZMAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 05:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m joining the queue to buy one, I&#039;ve got a 2005 Clubsport at the moment and I&#039;ve been waiting for the diesel Commodore.  With 550nm of torque from the 2.9 litre Motori it has to be a winner, that&#039;s the same as my 6 litre Clubsport!

For those of you who aren&#039;t convinced about the value of diesel power, take a look at the Hyundai I30 1600 turbo diesel. You can get one for $23000 on the road and it is a pleasure to drive.  My wife bought one a few weeks ago and it&#039;s outstanding value.  It eats hills and deliveres 17 kilometres per litre in normal driving.  It feels like it has a 2.5 litre engine under the bonnet, in fact it drives better than the 2 litre Ford Focys turbo diesel and it&#039;s about $7000 less on the road.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m joining the queue to buy one, I&#8217;ve got a 2005 Clubsport at the moment and I&#8217;ve been waiting for the diesel Commodore.  With 550nm of torque from the 2.9 litre Motori it has to be a winner, that&#8217;s the same as my 6 litre Clubsport!</p>
<p>For those of you who aren&#8217;t convinced about the value of diesel power, take a look at the Hyundai I30 1600 turbo diesel. You can get one for $23000 on the road and it is a pleasure to drive.  My wife bought one a few weeks ago and it&#8217;s outstanding value.  It eats hills and deliveres 17 kilometres per litre in normal driving.  It feels like it has a 2.5 litre engine under the bonnet, in fact it drives better than the 2 litre Ford Focys turbo diesel and it&#8217;s about $7000 less on the road.</p>
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		<title>By: stumpy</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/9882/ve-diesel-confirmed/#comment-53214</link>
		<dc:creator>stumpy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 13:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Diesel was cheaper in the 80&#039;s before tax/tariff changes, it is cheaper in most countries around the world where the tariffs are equal to that of petrol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diesel was cheaper in the 80&#8242;s before tax/tariff changes, it is cheaper in most countries around the world where the tariffs are equal to that of petrol.</p>
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		<title>By: standfast</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/9882/ve-diesel-confirmed/#comment-51902</link>
		<dc:creator>standfast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 21:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeh yeh volkswagen still have it all over you guys 
thanks for trying</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeh yeh volkswagen still have it all over you guys<br />
thanks for trying</p>
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