I’ve had several vehicles on LPG and yes, it’s cheap to buy but the conversion is still quite expensive even with the subsidy. Have you considered the increased engine wear from diesel and the valve problems? Both cause additional expense and reduce engine life. Diesel engines last longer than petrol engines and compared to petrol engines using timing belts (not chains), the servicing costs over 90000K are much less.

I’m still in the queue for a Commodore diesel and if there’s an option for the 4.5 litre diesel I’ll pay the premium!

GEN4 on LPG, more power and performance than a DIEsel, complete different league full-stop!.

Made in Australia fuel, $2k back from GovCo

Green and clean fuel too

winxwinxwinxwin!

Cheers

F-0

DO – THE – MATH!!

DIEsel has cracked 0.30cpl MORE than ULP, they do it because they can get away with it.

DIEsel will break through $2/L by XMAS.

I expect the gap between DIEsel and ULP to get even larger [LOL more than Premium PULP!]

DIEsel MUST go up on 01/01/2009 because the sulfer level is being reduced to EURO ?? level, simple math needs more refining, costs more to do, and it will have to passed on to the consumer.

One day soon the hoodwinked blinker-wearing blind buyers of DIEsel will twig and we shall see a flood of cheap DIEsel powered vehicles that nobody will want to buy.

THE SIMPLE ANWSER IS THE AUSSIE-MADE-FUEL L*P*G

Cheers

F-0

PS With high fuel prices will anybody want a large-aussie-sedan anymore?

For those of you who aren’t convinced about the value of diesel power, take a look at the Hyundai I30 1600 turbo diesel. You can get one for $23000 on the road and it is a pleasure to drive. My wife bought one a few weeks ago and it’s outstanding value. It eats hills and deliveres 17 kilometres per litre in normal driving. It feels like it has a 2.5 litre engine under the bonnet, in fact it drives better than the 2 litre Ford Focys turbo diesel and it’s about $7000 less on the road.

Then theres also the issue of having a suitable auto box that will handle any more torque and be reliable over a long time. Nothing kills resale values like a car that has gearbox troubels as soon as its out of warranty. Just ask Mitsubishi.

Even with these figures it should match the V6 in acceleration atleast to say 80kmh, and probably average 7 to 8 l/100 in a combined fuel cycle.

2009 is probably 5 or 6 years late but, better late than never.

my guess is that as usual commy and falcon will get diesel at pretty much the same time. territory would be expexted to have it before the falcon.

does anyone know what sort of economy this proposed commy diesel would expect?

As such diesel prices aren’t subject to the same discount cycle and competion as ULP which is sold in greater volume and where demand does change in relation to price per litre. Let’s face it if they wont sell ulp at price that reflects their cost in relation to the oil price they wont sell diesel for less than they do now either!

Now Ford need to do the same.

Could and should make the platform a better fit in some export markets.

Now will the uptake of diesel cars in Australia how long is it going to be before Motoring groups start asking for the duty to be taken off deisel to bring it in line with petrol.

The production cost of diesel is far less then that of petrol so why the big price difference

My 2.2L Diesel has 400Nm. 550Nm out of a V6 should be achievable.

VM Motori is/was jointly owned by Penske and daimler/chrysler. Not sure who of the divorcees got to keep the shares in VM, though.

If the VM 3.0 is used in the GM vehicles, it WILL have 550nm, why would you detune it? The Touareg 3.0 has 550nm already, and the R30 has 850nm. Yes, at $74,990 it’s dearer than a Commodore Omega, but no dearer than a V8 Caprice which is $71,990 – add say $3000 for the diesel and Bingo, same price.

Dare say at that price point, the Touareg will crap all over the Holden offering, but when you consider the Omega at $36,490 plus diesel, the Holden would be a bloody good thing.

Then my little dream of a Torana at say $5,000-7,000 less than a commodore, lighter, with the same engine – YEEEHAAA,
yes please. Then as no-name says, chip it, daddy and look out :)

Holden are making a good move here judging by the interest. The economical critics are wrong, it will cost more say $2500 more than the petrol equivalent this Is partly recovered in a higher residual value, over about 60,000km the difference is paid off. There’s also greater enjoyment driving due to the huge torque available and gutsy turbos doing their stuff.

Diesel is about 3.5% more than petrol but the economy saving is about 20-30%. Then theres the increase mileage per tankful to consider. I get as much as 768Km out of a tank meaning less time at the fuel station. Also bear in mind servicing periods are greater typically 32000km for my vectra 3.0 diesel. Cam belts at 160,000kms