Comments on: GM goes turbo

By: Gibbo

Gibbo — Thu, 31 Jan 2008 23:53:54 +0000

Turbo charged cars go hard and perform well, eg F6 Typhoon vs Falcon GT,a lot of rewiews stated that the F6 out performed the GT because the front end of the car is lighter and the GT’s V8 doesnt get going until 4500 rpm. However, turbo 4s and 6s just dont have that sweet, sweet sound of a thumping huge V8!!!

By: Andrew M

Andrew M — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 10:40:05 +0000

TP,
once again just because toyota (and others) are not doing it you see that as your reasoning why it is not a good enough option?

also you have made around 4 incorrect statements about LPG. here are some corrections……..

1. engines on LPG typically last longer
2. engines with a decent LPG system can easily match and in some cases better the power output of the unleaded variants
3. LPG typically offers increased Torque
4. engines with a decent LPG system only drink around 1L more than the petrol versions
5. Australia has a MASSIVE supply of LPG.
what reason makes you think LPG is more scarce?

also im still waiting to hear your thoughts on your confident statement that LPG is behind diesel………

By: TP

TP — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 10:17:39 +0000

Your obviously biased because your LPG crazy… I dont know detailed reasons but as I already said logically if it was such a good thing then it would be in manufacturers best interest to invest into it (especially because LPG is so cheap)… BUT THEY DONT!!! I dont know heaps about LPG, but this is a logical conclusion to make. Other reasons I could guess at is that the higher combustion temps for example reduce engine longetivity, they reduce the power output of vehicles and above all and Id think the main reason, they require more fuel to get the car the same distance (so your talking about LPG which I believe is more scarce then oil… and needing more of it! Ok while some small companies have it, but its not viable as something we can move to from fuel)

By: Andrew M

Andrew M — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 08:36:55 +0000

TP,
come on mate you have to be kidding yourself if you know my reasons better than myself…..grow up.

i too took a backwards step the first time a salesman uttered the words LPG at me. it was the concept of it being a dedicated fuel system instead of a duel system that grabbed me to look a little further at it.

just cause others arent looking heavily into it doesnt mean it isnt a viable solution. after they are cheaper to run than a hybrid and as i said they emitt 90% less particulates than diesels so i am still waiting to hear how you figure its behind even diesel????

i doubt you have had ZERO interaction with LPG and are scared to look outside what the marketing box is saying. most people i know or have heard from absolutely love LPG once they have used it

so how exactlly is LPG not a viable option?
and im waiting for your reply….(the famously uttered words from you toyota loyals)

By: Bavarian Missile

Bavarian Missile — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 08:04:11 +0000

mmmmm,maybe TP…….but I don’t see Taxi drivers driving Prius’s……………Come on just because one uses it and it works for them,how does that make it a non viable solution ?

By: TP

TP — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 08:01:01 +0000

Not wrong at all… you are fascinated purely because your beloved Falcons offer it. You claim its so great, well Im sorry but most manufacturers havent invested much into LPG, they have far greater resources to determine if its a viable soltuion… they obviously know it aint!

By: Andrew M

Andrew M — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 07:44:43 +0000

actually yes P platers were mentioned at the start

By: Steve

Steve — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 07:17:16 +0000

I’m suprised that after all these comments no one has meantioned that L and P platers won’t be able to drive one of these tiny engines because there’s a hair dryer on the exhaust. But they’ll be allowed to get in dad’s fleet Commodore that makes more power and weights more (note, that’s referring to power output and handling/braking).

Aparently Peugeot are working on a Diesel Hybrid, if not already released it in other parts of the world. I think Hybrid power only works with Diesel. The petrol otto-engine hasn’t really changed in design in over 100 years now. Rather than flog a dead horse, I think it’s time someone like Rudolf Diesel was born and makes a new, revolutionary engine…. then get’s bought out or murdered by oil companies or other car manufacturers. :p

Steve

By: goog

goog — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 06:04:50 +0000

i think lpg will always be the same with all the car makes. but they need to start really making deisel v8s and other deisels, and hurry up with the hybrid. honda and toyota have for like 2 years and holden and ford say they wont have it until like 2011 or something. way 2 slow 2 react

By: Andrew M

Andrew M — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:57:44 +0000

TP,
wrong.
i have a fascination with LPG because i have actually used it.
how is LPG behind diesel when LPG vehicles run even cheaper than a hybrid and also that LPG vehicles emitt 90% less particulates than diesels