Comments on: GM vs Toyota – down to the wire

By: Alvaro

Alvaro — Wed, 23 Mar 2011 15:09:19 +0000

In the past decades japanesse cars were investing lots of founds into developing more eficient thermodinamic motors, reducing volumes, weigth and energy eficient. However the genioses of GM said that the GM didn´t neet to waste money in that, cause American cars are in great majority for american people who happen to be the number one economy in the world and so they are paying cheap oil prices while the rest of the poor world is paying the same prices. So why to care about eficiency dinamics ?.
Secondly; While a ford pick up truck costs arround 25000 USD a Toyota Hilux is about 35000. However depreciation in toyota cars is not as big as GM cars after the same period of time since bougth new. It is well known that once you buy a Toyota you can pass it to your children and thy to their children and the machine remains reliable.

By: Watto_Cobra

Watto_Cobra — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 05:48:48 +0000

Well, generally fine except that fuse that keeps blowing. We’ve tried looking for wires chafing on steel body, replaced switches and the interior light. Nothing has worked.

Might have to settle for hooking up some sort of circuit breaker in place of the fuse, unless he does decide to trade it soon.

Haven’t had issues with trailer circuit, but it’s a 2000 model, so I wouldn’t know if newer models do. What kind of safety recall? Just inoperative lights or possibility of melting wires?

By: Andrew M

Andrew M — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 05:40:39 +0000

Watto,
well electrical gremlins must be a problem with them then??

they also have a safety recall out on the current lux’s at the moment due to electrical issues when connected to a trailer

By: Watto_Cobra

Watto_Cobra — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 00:18:45 +0000

“OMG Cobra it crapped its timing belt man thats a major engine floor… are your kidding? What else you gonna dig up, at 300,000kms it misfied once? What kind of a stupid comment is that, such a minor problem… at least it had a non-intereference engine and didnt screw the valves up… a postitive for the engine design”
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OMG TP, stupid comment is it? Not so minor when you’re stuck in the mountains. And a problem is still a problem TP, you can’t just ignore it the way you do other things *nudge*. Other than that it has been resonably reliable.

That “positive” you mentioned is the one I bloody well mentioned. It’s also always blowing fuses on the interior light circuit, despite two auto-sparkys looking at it. I only mentioned it’s major problems, put the belt together with it’s terrible fuel consumption, poor bush ability, and he regrets ever buying it, or at least wishes he’d paid extra for the diesel.

It seemed like the best vehicle for his needs at the time, but not now.

By: Dingo Mikka

Dingo Mikka — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 23:23:51 +0000

Bavarain – some time when the grounds are dry enough to SAFELY commence production.

Don’t want any rollovers.

By: Dingo Mikka

Dingo Mikka — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 23:20:21 +0000

Sorry … my mistake (and the above comment) – it should have been directed at Wheelnut not yourself.

Thanks for the correction !!

4×4 tests are conducted over hoW many kilometers – 2 / 3
thousand.

How do they handle the conditions over an extended period of time through rain, hail or shine, day-in, day-out, 365 days a year.

Believe you me Andrew … i am in the poition to answer that question not yourself.

YOU CAN HAVE NY WORD ON THAT

The solid reputation that the Hilux has rightful earn’t itself just does not happen by mistake and you should be smart enough to be able to respect it.

By: Dingo Mikka

Dingo Mikka — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 23:11:43 +0000

Andrew – get over it … it’s advertising just like Holden with it’s Billion Dollar Baby that can challenge the worlds very best or the old thunderstruck adds that had GEN3′s doing burnouts yet knocked back people’s warranty claims when they admitted to driving them hard or the fact there’s that Epica add that makes it look like a prestiages motorcar.

Anyway – good to see you know understand that GM no longer holds shares in Izusu.

Haa … you learn’t some new – what’so bad about that.

But now you have your chance to teach me something new and that is wether your company is changing over Hilux’s to another brand.

Maybe your story is true because Toyota is unable to satisfy the contract in full or within time because of the demand of the Hilux so yes then you are right but failed top highlight a resonable explanation why.

Then again – it could have simply came down to them being undercut by thier competitor.

I’m just curious … that’s all !!

By: Andrew M

Andrew M — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 23:11:07 +0000

Dingo,
CORRECTION……….
i am not wrong. i too pointed out that you were suppose to go back today. even you said you were suppose to so are you WRONG too?

I take it that second part isnt for me?

By: Dingo Mikka

Dingo Mikka — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 23:00:49 +0000

Andrew … WRONG – i was suppose to go back today but because of the heavy rains we probably won’t make it back until Monday the earliest but haa … i don’t mind because it means it will just be a short week for myself.

Surely you are a resonable enough person to understand that.

Anyway, like i asked – i would appreciate if i can varify your story and like i said i don’t want to know who you are or even your position so that way we can keep the personal info to the side therefore no harm is done.

Haa … If it true then why the dilemma especially considering you have the oppurtunity to ‘show me up’ … gee – if i was you i would jump at the idea !!

By: Andrew M

Andrew M — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 22:58:33 +0000

Dingo,
mate you question wasnt to hard it is just pointless.
Im not your little B***h that runs for information at your request. as i said i wasnt doubting you on the ownership just curious as to how they could still keep selling Isuzu when they dont own them anymore.
Im not going to look out of principle as there is nothing to prove.

oh and no one has ever said the Hilux is unbreakable?
gee you must love your toyotas if you havent even realised that Toyotas slogan for Hilux’s for many years was in fact “Unbreakable Hilux”. they even put a little sticker on the owners rear screen.

i wouldnt be so quick to class the ranger as not being as rugged as the hilux. the Ranger/Courier has held its own over many years too but only promoted less than the hilux.
didnt the Ranger and BT50 both out do the Hilux in the 4X4 test to find that very thing out?