Comments on: Evo X vs MY08 STi vs MY07 STi vs EVO IX

By: jamison

jamison — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 01:59:26 +0000

well I just came back from the detroit motor show industry day. and I went straight to the Subaru stand, and had a much closer look. Its does look nice… even my work mate who didnt like its look… said “its not bad” at all… and he actually got in and started looking at the brochure… and even examined the underbody…. hehe.. same here.

the red one is nice… its actually “tighter” looks wise. meaning its wider than the compact hatches but still small. The rear difuser combined with the quad exhaust looks mean as. And the front pumped out fenders really does have a lot of potential to house wider wheels which even gives it a much more aggressive look. If I was Subaru, I would of put 18×9 on the fronts and 18×10 on the rears, it makes a huge difference….
took a look at the Evo too… its not that special to be honest… it has a narrow look… Mitsubishi should of opted for a more aggressive fender design. The front look is still very aggressive looking, but it does have a “flat” front, which can increase drag, although it does allow a lot of air into the intercooler and engine.. so cooling will not have issues… from impressions anyways.

The interior is very nice also…. just a very good packaged car… it should win best performance car under 70k…. quiet easily in my opinion…

By: Nick

Nick — Thu, 17 Jan 2008 22:27:46 +0000

New STI = Weapon! I reckon an Evo6 would have finished between the 2 Subarus.
Ivan, how can you even type R32 and STI in the same sentence lol. If you were comparing them in a sense of being Grant Tourers, or in terms of fit and finish ,fair enough, but around the track. Please.

By: Typhoid

Typhoid — Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:06:56 +0000

towards the end there is a segment where they decide which car they like best. almost all chose the evoX mr except the drift king.

being the drift king i suppose he has his reasons. btw the show is meant to be in a format with a bit of humour. with cars like evos or stis where they are able to handle it with ease (being professionals) they are less strung up and try to have fun while giving comments on their cars as well as in comparison to the cars they are racing against. i just wish they would continue the Best Motoring International series that has english subtitles.

i think Jeremy clarkson will also have the same opinion. he would slam the evoX for being slower. but he would also like the car. more than the sti

By: Taka

Taka — Thu, 17 Jan 2008 03:12:29 +0000

I agree with you Jamison the new STi does look nice. As I have said in the past, the new STi hatch platform is built ultimately for the WRC programme and to make a fast a rally car it must be in this form. It is a winning combination or “formula” and as a result you can see it beat the EVOX and |V hands down.

By: Bret

Bret — Thu, 17 Jan 2008 02:06:56 +0000

This is perhaps a bit of a guess on my part as I can’t view CA videos behind our firewall (why is this Alborz – I can view them from other sites), but I think these comparisons are aften run with each driver back to back in each car, and the times averaged, so that the cars are compared not the drivers.

By: Anthony

Anthony — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:57:03 +0000

I mentioned professional drivers as there were more than a few times when the apex was missed by a wide enough margin. But hey, if they have raced in the Le mans and Nascar series, then I stand corrected!

I think I’m just pissed off that the EVO’s got trounced!

By: Flying High

Flying High — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:51:42 +0000

actually the Mitsu fans are decidedly quiet today!! Not a single post!

I really wonder what went wrong with the Mitsus getting 3,4,5 and the new glorified one of that breed getting dead last.

I still think for general use the DSG is a glorified auto and despite having quicker shift times, in the real world, the way you tell what gear you are in is by feel of the gear stick – Sound of engine revs (which some readers have posted as to how you know when to change gear) don’t necessarily tell you what gear you are in so you can tell exactly what you need to do so you end up where you want to be in terms of gearing. Having driven enough auto cars with ‘manual’ override in my opinion it is just a shit house way of changing gears – esp shifting down. It seems obvious that the Mitsu Evo MR driver, who is a professional, was struggling with it.

Seems the Evo MR really is the lazy mans ‘sports’ sedan with the resultant lazy mans result. The truth is in the result of this race.

By: Ivan

Ivan — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:57:47 +0000

The new STI is definitely not photogenic. But if you were to see in the metal, it does actually look buffy.

I myself haven’t seen it in the flesh, but every friend I know who’s seen it in the flesh are actually quite surprised, because the picture and the real thing is quite different.

Can’t wait for the Stig to drive both and compare the times. Maybe include the Golf R32 as well…=)

By: Chris Parr

Chris Parr — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:50:38 +0000

like how I have been saying all along the new sti had to be quicker with more power/torque simalar weight to old model and a newer much improved chassis.. Also it was more obvious it is quicker than evo lancer with more power, less weight and a proper 6 speed manual!!! not stupid dsg or old 5 speed like in lancer! GO subaru love your work..

By: Chad

Chad — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 21:40:41 +0000

Its still ugly