Toyota Camry TRD - 2008 Detroit Auto Show
15 Jan, 2008
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Toyota Camry TRD - 2008 Detroit Auto Show
Toyota Racing & Development has its way with the humble Toyota Camry.
The end result is basically bigger wheels, leather seats and a sunroof with no power increase. A bit of a disappointment for a car with a TRD badge.
On another note Toyota and Microsoft seem to be having a bad partnership to lead the way…
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January 15th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
pretty sad effort
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January 15th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
^haha agreed,
a Sportivo painted all shiny with bigger alloys,
hardly a polished TuRD.
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January 15th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
they need to stop making boring cars. a new celica or supra would be perfect or even the scion tC in aus
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January 15th, 2008 at 4:05 pm
As long as we didn’t receive any of the other junk from Scion. The tC is actually quite good looking.
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January 15th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
Big deal
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January 15th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Someone forgot to activate windows prior to putting the kiosk on show…
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January 15th, 2008 at 4:26 pm
I was expecting something like an American version of the TRD Aurion, with the same supercharger, suspension bits, etc.
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January 15th, 2008 at 4:39 pm
So wheres Dingo/Mikka ….???????? Tick..Tick…Tick..
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January 15th, 2008 at 4:44 pm
A contradiction of terms, Camry and Sport……
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January 15th, 2008 at 4:55 pm
Wow, a Camry with a set of mags.Toyota went to a lot of trouble. The possibilities are endless.
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January 15th, 2008 at 5:00 pm
It’s obvious Toyota don’t need to try to hard these days.
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January 15th, 2008 at 5:00 pm
The new GM has lost its way already.
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January 15th, 2008 at 5:12 pm
Wow it looks like TRD have gone all out on this one and added TRD to the wheel centers, so sporting it might ruffle a cardy, not lol.
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January 15th, 2008 at 5:22 pm
Poor old Camry……..
Just read another review on the Aurion TRD, Falcon XR6 and Subaru Liberty GT-B …….anyone else read it???Wheels!!
Guess what gets the best write up…….hehehehe..
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January 15th, 2008 at 5:30 pm
TiReD & Degenerated thinking - pretty embarassing really.
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January 15th, 2008 at 5:37 pm
YAAAAAAAAAAAWN… another attack on Toyota, obviously supported by this site.
What you uneducated bums dont realise is that if that TRD Camry is the V6 version that the U.S gets, its good for high 5s to 100km/h… it doesnt need an upgrade in engine performance… it gets the same performance from 3.5L that takes your POS Falcon an extra 0.5L displacement and a blower slapped on!!!
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January 15th, 2008 at 5:44 pm
^YAAAAAAAAAAAWN… another biased Toyota freak
Who cares about it’s performance, it looks to plain. Now you can’t say the Falcon is POS, because that camry is FWD and Falcon is RWD and RWD is alot better than FWD.
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January 15th, 2008 at 5:45 pm
I was wondering when you were going to show up Paul, no one has really commented on performance but more on TRD’s lack of effort to make the Camry ’sporty’, similar to you critcising the concept Mazda 2 MPS for looking tacky.
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January 15th, 2008 at 5:46 pm
Who cares if you are getting 5s to 100km/h, you are driving what looks like a driving a polished turd.
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January 15th, 2008 at 5:51 pm
If you blame this site for supporting attacks on Toyota, why don’t you just leave Paul. So you claim Alborz E-mails us to say negitive comments about Toyotas? makes me laugh!
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January 15th, 2008 at 5:51 pm
well good to see you gave the car a yaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn too Paul. you must have started to shake a bit of bias.
mate no way in hell will a stock as a rock V6 camry motor out do an XR6 Turbo.
on the flip side toyota has to lose .5L of displacement to achieve the same fuel figures as the falcon.
im not going to sit here and bag it for not having enough differentiation but rather say if toyota will slap a TRD badge on something that should be labelled a “special edition” they will not create any exclusivity or desire for the TRD name plate.
they will ruin the feel of such a name plate before it even takes off.
in the same way if HSV were to do a daewoo
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January 15th, 2008 at 5:51 pm
Disappointing.
This proves one thing
Aust>USA
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January 15th, 2008 at 5:58 pm
No Im not claiming that Oz… you are putting words into my mouth. What they are doing is providing ‘material’ for their market of viewers, Ford bogans who are strongly opposed Toyota.
As for the rest, the regular Camry looks good already… the rims are all thats needed… maybe Mazda could have used this tip for the RX8 which they butchered… tasteful additions.
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January 15th, 2008 at 6:01 pm
Sorry Andrew.M they are the facts… the V6 Camry in the U.S is good for high 5’s low 6’s… similar ot XR6 Turbo. Hell the Aurion is good for high 6’s — All this with less displacement and the absence of boost. I mentioned performance btw for those who questioned it because we attack it for ’sporty’ reasons, it has the looks… it has engine… and its handling aint to bad…. if a Camry aint sporty then either is your Ford Falcon or Holde Commodore
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January 15th, 2008 at 6:03 pm
oh one other thing,
have toyota not yet learnt to make a one piece front or rear spoiler/bar?
i think that leads to some toyota sports models not looking quite right.
yes they may do it to reduce moulding costs, but in the interest of styling for a high priced sports car somethings gotta give
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January 15th, 2008 at 6:08 pm
sorry Paul but the Aurion does mid 7’s
i suppose it could also be said CA also provides material in the the mazda, ford and holden range for toyota tossers to attack
what do they charge for this in the states do you know Paul?
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January 15th, 2008 at 6:09 pm
“the regular Camry looks good already” HAHAHAHAHA, whether that is true or not, any car can improve on its looks. Take the DB9 for example, one of the most beautiful cars in the world, despite this Aston made it even better with the DBS.
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January 15th, 2008 at 6:10 pm
hey if it is 5 something seconds wouldnt it also beat the TRD aurion which also has a hairdryer?
man if so this thing would torque steer like mad
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January 15th, 2008 at 6:21 pm
Not getting into the ToyotavFordvHolden,FWD V RWD rubbish,but those TRD wheels mounted on a midrange SE CAMRY is really tacky.
Not a good look.
The less is more principal is still lost on the Americans.
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January 15th, 2008 at 6:23 pm
1. No the Aurion does it in 6.9 seconds, as per satellite test. This sounds more realistic given the U.S Camry has same engine but its in the 6 flat range.
2. You cant win with everyone Myke, TRD did the Aurion up… people like NM whinge… they dont do the Camry up much… people whinge.
3. Its very high 5’s low 6’s to 100… perhaps beat the TRD I dont know, I think the TRD is quicker then recorded though, it cant just be 1 seconds quicker then the regular Aurion given its got alittle bit more power and waaaaay more torque. Eitherway Im sure it doesnt torque steer to bad, it has Toyotas engineeering afterall!! Here is something interesting, people have been complaining about their 08 Lancers torque steering… an example of poor engineering, cant even control 113kw and 200Nm.
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January 15th, 2008 at 6:25 pm
hahaha……see Wheelnut..I told you!
True,True ,True AndrewM…….Yep if your still recovering from broken fingers from the steering wheel being ripped out of your hands in an Aurion TRD……your hand would be amputated in a 0-100 high fives from Yank land!!
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January 15th, 2008 at 6:26 pm
Same TeRD, different wheels, senior’s around the country will be happy.. me I’m bored with this Toy Mota next please……….
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January 15th, 2008 at 6:27 pm
Is this TRD being offered for sale btw or just for show? This obviously isnt a true effort by Toyota but merely showcasing what can be done to the Camry… it hasnt got any TRD specific features… the rims for example are the optional 19s we have here with TRD badge replacing the Toyota one.
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January 15th, 2008 at 6:27 pm
5 secs in a Camry V6/Aurion wouldn’t that be an interesting ride. Read the Toyota Tarago v6 review on this blog and it’s nearly as fast apparently. Perhaps they should put this engine in Ferraris or Aston Martins or whatever and they will all go faster too.
Toyota can pass any crap aka TuRD off as a sports saloon to the saps that buy Toyotas. Why develop a rear drive platform or awd when they sell these front heavy understeering monsters anyway. I doubt if Toyota owners will ever drive them in anger anyway so the debate is academic really.
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January 15th, 2008 at 6:28 pm
Hey TP, just wondering, what car do you drive?
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January 15th, 2008 at 6:28 pm
You even driven an Aurion BM let alone the TRD? Doubt it, just another Ford armchair critic.
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January 15th, 2008 at 6:30 pm
If u want a rear drive Toyota sedan u have to buy a Lexus.
Toyota obviously think rear drive is superior as well.
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January 15th, 2008 at 6:32 pm
Realcars the debate is good… good for a laugh. You have smart Toyota buyers driving around in Tarago’s beating ricers in their Falcons and Commodores off the line!!! Oh but its FWD… so if your taking corners at 100km/h its not going to handle as well lol. For street use, accleration is far more important then cornering, you have to really push cars to start telling them apart, mind you the Falcon was reviewed poorly in handling over rough surfaces (again REALworld application, does poorly).
Bob what does it matter? I drive a Camry… even if I didnt have a car I have every right to contribute here.
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January 15th, 2008 at 6:34 pm
Realcars this FWD v RWD argument including the Lexus argument has been done to death, your half a year to late.
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January 15th, 2008 at 6:35 pm
“You cant win with everyone Myke, TRD did the Aurion up… people like NM whinge… they dont do the Camry up much… people whinge.”
Maybe the problem being, it was a bad product to begin with…
The Aurion TRD is a dressed up Aurion, which is a dressed up Camry.
Lexus is an example that Toyota can do better.
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January 15th, 2008 at 6:38 pm
The TRD looks hot… its performance is adequate, I dont see any argument their. Obviously Lexus is the pinnacle, just like a Tpyoon is the pinnacle. But is the XR6T still alrite? Yes. Same applies to TRD and the lower Aurions. There area always compromises.
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January 15th, 2008 at 6:38 pm
Toyota offer the cheap option i.e front drive and charge a premium. Did u ever see that Motoring show on Saturdays where they sawed an old Ford Meteor in half and rigged it up so it could be driven without the rear half and dragging on the ground. I can imagine someone doing this to an Aurion in a few years time.
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January 15th, 2008 at 6:38 pm
Paul, Maybe you don’t want to bring up a FWD vs RWD fight because you don’t want to be pounded?
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January 15th, 2008 at 6:41 pm
V6 Camry stateside has the same 200kw engine as in Aus. therefore performance is just standard Aurion 0-100km/h is 7.42 according to CA.
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January 15th, 2008 at 6:47 pm
is it true the aurion trd self detonation at high revs problem could not be overcome, so their answer was to drop the rev limiter by 500rpm ? - if true not a good look.
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January 15th, 2008 at 6:48 pm
The Avalon; sorry I meant Aurion [they both start with A end with N.. easy to get confused] may do 6.9 seconds via satellite. However very few car magazines use satellites.. they prefer either the correvit system.. an on board telemetry system similar to that of a V8 supercar - or the good old stop watch
I would say one of the reasons they don’t use satellite timing is because satellite navigation systems are by no means what you could call accurate - they tend to give a general approximation ‘its within 500m of here’ and sometimes its completely wrong “in 20m turn left” yet if you were to do so youd be going the wrong way down a one way street.
Not to mention a thing called paralex error which depending upon the angle and proximity can alter your perception of distance and speed..
so you [or the satellite] may think the car went from 0-100 in 6.9 second but the onboard telemetry/correvit system which is on/in the car shows 7.4 or higher
Or it covers 400m in 12.5 yet in that time its only covered 360m
Because the Correvit system is wired in to the car it removes the paralex error which can affect judgements etc and therfore is far more accurate as well as reliable.
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January 15th, 2008 at 6:52 pm
Yeah. lets all drive rails on the street if acceleration is more important than cornering ability /handling. Weld the steering linkage up on the Aurion and let her rip.
How about dropping a supercharged v8 into that cheap arse front drive platform. That will give the retirees something to brag about.
If people stopped buying this crap Toyota may finally be pressured to offer a rear drive platform for this range. How about a Yaris with 200kws. Now that definitely wouldn’t go around corners.
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January 15th, 2008 at 6:52 pm
Realcars the FWD option also happens to be the more practical for street use. FWD are more efficient… they lose less power through the drivetrain, therefore you can slap on a small engine and have better acceleration. Eg Aurion v Falcon, smaller engine, way less torque, tiny amount of extra power…. half a second quicker to 100 (mind you thats with skinny arse tyres, thats takes away abit from initial acceleration).
Oz the only people losing were those in the RWD camp, Ive won… battle is over, no uprising.
Bret do your research before coming here and making such claims, the Aurion has been satellite tested by I belive Drive (not 100% sure, was in newspaper for car of year) at 6.9 seconds…. furthermore go to any U.S auto site, the V6 Camry does the 100 in at the very slowest recorded at 6.5seconds. Hell many forums even talk about how the same engine in a different frame is more quicker.
Lcat it is true that 55% of Falcons are back at the dealership within 6months of sale (and thats one of Fords better performers in that department!!!!).
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January 15th, 2008 at 6:54 pm
Hey Paul I was going to book for a test drive then the dealers pulled them……remember!!!!!!I can book one if you want.. so I can still tell you how much Torque steer it has!!
Paul says…..”Realcars this FWD v RWD argument including the Lexus argument has been done to death, your half a year to late.”
Ahhhhhhhhh Paul……the same could be said with fuel economy figures……Toyota History and the big one!!! RELIABILITY!!!! Can we agree not to bring those up again too…….
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January 15th, 2008 at 6:56 pm
Wheelnut all well and good but they used both systems… dont quote me but I believe they may have averaged it off. Face the facts, the Falcon does do the 100 in 7.5seconds… the Aurion as that video I showed ages go easily beats it.. Therefore it must be quicker to 100, 6.9seconds sounds about right.
Why would we want a RWD platform? So inexperienced drivers can spin out and kill themself? So we can get less power AT THE WHEELS. I will take FWD and its efficiency over RWD and its superior cornering ability… around a track. I think youve been watchng to much top gear real cars, they do those power slides and show the advantages of RWD at HIGH speed, on the streets you rarely get an opportunity to push a car hard enough.
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January 15th, 2008 at 6:58 pm
What are you on about BM? The Aurions better fuel efficiency? Toyotas still have far bette reliability then Ford? By all means bring it up. As for the test drive attack, that was the TRD, not the Aurion… maybe you should stick to painting your nails then commenting on vehicles haha ;)
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January 15th, 2008 at 7:00 pm
Im off I will comment at a later date on the attacks to follow after this post
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January 15th, 2008 at 7:02 pm
Oz, on my monthly drives from Perth to Kalgoorlie in a then brand new Commodore VS, I had to hang on for Dear Life as the old girl squirmed from side to side as the auto tranny lunged from fourth to second gear as I overtook semis travelling at 90km/h.
At times like those, I would have given anything for a bit of stability, which is what you get with front wheel drive. In blustery conditions with the rain coming in sideways, it’s the front drivers leaving the old Commies for dead at freeway speeds. Oh yes, the fwd/rwd was as alive then as it is now! For the record, I’ve owned both and enjoyed their respective merits. For example, somewhere along the Great eastern Highway, there was a massive gravel-surface rest area and I used to swing the Commy into there and let her off the rwd leash…ooh er!
As for this here Camry, you could achieve the look at a spoiler and mag shop. A nice advance on the far less-ugly-than-before current Camry, but nothing earth shaking.
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January 15th, 2008 at 7:13 pm
What am I on about…..you telling Realcars that the FWD v RWD argument has been done……….
Yep true, when we bring up something that has been mentioned you want to move on…..the same thing about Reliability ,Efficiency and Toyotas history keeps getting mentioned by you ,when you see fit ,as you have simply just demonstrated ….
I know it was the TRD…..{WHY WOULD I EVER BE INTERESTED IN DRIVING ANYTHING LESS }Me go and bother test driving an Aurion…..hahahaha
Paint my nails…who does yours????
I would be interested to know whats the fastest car you have driven…cause I can tell you as a TRUE PERFORMANCE driver {that wears heels} once you move forward into real grunt ….you don’t want to step backwards!
Anyone got Dingos/Mikkas number…..
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January 15th, 2008 at 7:14 pm
Good on u TP keep the Toyota reliability myth alive by making up stats about our big two. I take my hat off to Toyota they are definitely better spin merchants and I give credit where it is due as they have a dealer network that is more responsive to warranty claims than the others.
I think claimed efficiency gains of FWD over RWD are not as great as u claim.
The main advantage of FWD is that it is cheaper and thats it.
Unfortunately for the TuRD it’s all down hill from there.
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January 15th, 2008 at 7:20 pm
First of the widebodies I bet.
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January 15th, 2008 at 7:23 pm
TP is correct, they are more fuel efficient as not old hack design motor. Look at motor size, power, setup, and how efficient. The Toyota on current form shits over base model Falcon. Ford’s only hope is rechange majority of there shit useless designs on offer as I stated and get cars into a bigger range offering such as Verve, Iosis, Kluga. HENRY FORD must be turning in his grave. Bit like me when I build homes…I must put more inclusions, unreal price and jaw dropping design to get success. Aside from my Falcon, Fiesta, Mondeo, Ranger, updated Territory the future looks crap and will only widen against Toyota. THE SOONER ALL FORD SUPPORTERS FACE UP TO REALITY…THE BETTER AS LIKE ME YOU SHOULD BE FULLY PISSED AT RANGE AS TOYOTA AND MAYBE GM AND HYUNDAI WILL LEAVE FORD IN WAKE!
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January 15th, 2008 at 7:26 pm
Ohhhhhhhh wide bodied ones…mmm they were attractive.
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January 15th, 2008 at 7:28 pm
Hi Golfie…I’m with you there dude. My old fella when talking about FWD/RWD used to say horses pull carts not push them.
I remember being greeting by many a sideways sliding falcon or commodore in Mel on the wet spring days. RWD for the race track FWD for average drivers on the road.
Where’s Mikka hiding
As for the TuRD not really impressed looks decidedly dull to me. 4/10 see me. Teach
Hey BM you sure look good in the Pedal car.
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January 15th, 2008 at 7:35 pm
No Paul, you lost, you were banned remember? Sucker!
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January 15th, 2008 at 7:39 pm
hahaha…gee thanks No Name……I guess you now know what we export to you in the UK…..hehehe
Hey Golfschwein……..you go to Kal regularly..for how long?
I may come up with you one day ……my best friend lives up their!But what are we driving up their in???? hahaha
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January 15th, 2008 at 7:49 pm
Hey Bav Mis, that was in a previous life. I used to be a sales rep for what is now Blackwood Atkins. If I try real hard, I can still remember Bosch 10 digit part numbers; 9001066236 for a Holden starter drive and 9001066239 for a Ford. Gosh, it WAS 10 years ago :)
Off to gym now. I’ve larded up horribly over Xmas.
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January 15th, 2008 at 7:54 pm
holy hell this one has gone off!!!!!!
ill go have tea before i even start to read this.
please dont post too many more before im back
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January 15th, 2008 at 7:56 pm
Toyota’s bolting on of sports bits and then referring to them as “sporty” without actually changing the mechanical components is becoming a bit tedious… I have nothing against the brand or the cars, but if other manufacturers can give you a power increase and better dynamics then why can’t they. Lets hope they realise this sooner rather than later.
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January 15th, 2008 at 7:57 pm
Andrew, sometimes it’s hard to resist when TomBoy Puller is taking drugs. :)
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January 15th, 2008 at 8:01 pm
Just thinking about it, I’ve not yet driven a modern, powerful Aussie rear-driver with ESP. So it’s possible that you no longer get the feeling that the back’s gonna overtake the front when you gas it whilst passing someone. I don’t know. It’s a fair call that, if so, fwd and 4wd have advanced similarly.
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January 15th, 2008 at 8:12 pm
Nothing wrong with that feeling Golfschwein…at least you can steer with the throttle in RWD. Good fun…..I can see I need to take you for a run soon!!!!!
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January 15th, 2008 at 8:42 pm
Ok AndrewM is either having a big tea or..hes madly typing!!
hahaha
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January 15th, 2008 at 10:05 pm
ok before it goes any further i want something explained to me…..
if the FWD set up is soooo much more efficient then how come the falcon with 10kw less, more weight and RWD does the 0-100 in the same time?
also how come the heavier, RWD and larger motored falcon still only drinks as much as the Aurion?
i say the 6yr old falcon does quite well.
TP,
you change your story all the time. now cornering isnt as important as acceleration? WTF
NM,
what the hell is more fuel efficient?
ive done a quick comparison of economy through out toyotas range V fords range before and in some the toyota edges ford and in others the fords edge the toyota. toyota dont really extract more efficiency than any other maker (or specifically ford)
TP,
im still waiting to see this 6.9 secs from the aurion too.
when they are both tested using the same method the return THE SAME. have you ever heard of a “fair test”. you just finished UNI didnt you? anyone with a bit of scientific knowledge will tell you how important that is.
so this US camry has gone from high 5’s to low 6’s now has it? well it wont beat an XR6T. and if it does it will embarras a TRD Aurion
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January 16th, 2008 at 12:17 am
Hehe,
I dunno why Toyota USA showed this car…
seriously my colleagues here in Toyota USA, Love the look of the Aurion. Aurion was designed by my work there in Oz so.. props to them.
And someone bluntly saying RWD > FWD…. not necessarily… for sports/race cars you have a point.. but try driving a RWD car in the snow with family with you and you will crap your pants every turn… although it depends highly on driving style.. but FWD is not only more economically cheaper for manufacturers (hence most are opting for it, except for Australia’s Ford and GM, which is still sticking to the RWD platform, I dont blame them its their biggest selling point in my opinion)… FWD is all you really need for everyday driving… GM and Ford here in US are switching to FWD soon… Honda, Nissan etc best selling sedans are FWD… actually.. lemme double check on that… Honda for sure.
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January 16th, 2008 at 12:23 am
And oh… Lexus.. RWD platforms..
again supports my case that it is more economical for manufacturing purposes.
RWD setups are definitely better for sports/performance as I said above. But I’m just saying nothing wrong with FWD… if its simply an everyday car.
Nothing wrong with it at all….
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January 16th, 2008 at 1:39 am
slot the 3.5 aurion engine into the camry. or maybe just borrow liberty’s chassis slap on a camry look and put the supercharged 3.5litre inside.
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January 16th, 2008 at 5:58 am
Ummmm and the Falcon is a much bigger motor then the Camry /Aurion and has more power and that motor is more fuel efficient versus the Falcon. Even when driven in real world situations (off the showroom floor) it is better. Maybe Ford will replace its motor soon as read and that will change….where will that motor come from? Not Australia!
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January 16th, 2008 at 6:10 am
Lets just focus purely on Falcon and Camry / Aurion motors as thats what Iam referring too.
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January 16th, 2008 at 8:43 am
Let me start by saying WHY ARE WE COMPARING TOYOTA TO FORD, especially camry to falcon, They are completely different cars.
1. Camry is a mid size so its competition is Mondeo.
2. Both camry and Aurion are FWD sedans, never a good combination here, look at 380/magna.
To comment on the post, TRD need to do more than rims and sunroof, They are both optional extras.
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January 16th, 2008 at 9:57 am
TP,
Typical, straight into the personal attacks.
Don’t go acusing me of not doing my research, when you just regugitate any spurious crap you read on the ‘net. But then you probably don’t realise that “research” doesn’t mean “search the internet then quote it”.
Anyway, V6 Camry (Aurion in Aus) does not do high 5′ low sixes to 100 km/h (Oh “satellite” - inaccurate uless its uses Defence coding, and civilian CAN’T access that).
BTW US testers test 0-60 MPH (or 0-96.5 km/h), which can’t actually be compared. So 6 secs for 0-60 is not 6 secs for 0-100.
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January 16th, 2008 at 10:31 am
Its just a bloody sportivo. Same as an XR6 is just an XT falcon with the feel good bits, wing, wheels and seats.
What a waste of a TRD bagde. They could have just started selling this model as the new base model over there and no-one would have even noticed.
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January 16th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
Not to feed anymore fuel to the fire but, Motor tested the Aurion and did 6.8secs to 0-100 having a V8 supercar driver behind the wheel.
As for this TRD, its quite the joke! Even Australia did better for a TRD.
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January 16th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
Ummmmm
Good point David N….but the latest Wheels has them both against each other…..
Did ANYONE mention the cost difference between the two?
TRD?????
XR6T ?????
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January 16th, 2008 at 12:52 pm
Yet again very boring Toyota much like the TRD Hilux and the Aurion. I have driven the crap out of an Aurion and was very dissapointed with performance, handling and braking. It was not up to par…..I did a direct comparison with a SV6 and reackon the SV6 would smash it in all areas. The Falcon is there with technology and handling but is due for the update which I think will be better than the SV6 and Aurion. Ford has had a years to review the opposition and should beat them. But the pathetic camry is just lame and a waste of time…..i can’t even put sport and camry together….
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January 16th, 2008 at 5:43 pm
Which Aurion are you talking about Shane?
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January 16th, 2008 at 6:18 pm
Andrew.M… you have trouble dealing with facts, such as FWD being more efficient, its just common sense. The fact is Aurion only has 10kw more to its advantage (weight offset by torque), yets its far quicker in accleration.
Bret… you wanna nitpick go around, the fact is as I stated the V6 Camry in the states is dam quick for what it is, just as quick as a 4L turboed Falcon!!! That is enough to make you laugh.
Anothonii he’s talking about the Aurion were the gear shifter is that cyclindrical object between his legs…I dont think Ive come acorss one person yet who has ACTUALLY driven the Aurion and been disappointed.
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January 16th, 2008 at 6:19 pm
SRTargets,
did they test the falcon on the same day using the same driver and same equipment?
its simple……..
when ever they are compared together they seem to come out with the same numbers as each other.
so would you call it a fair test if wheels for eg took a falcon and tested it on a cold night down a slight grade and a 60km/h tail wind?
both comparisons must be done together
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January 16th, 2008 at 6:25 pm
TP,
the official figure for the aurion is 7.4secs. read my above post regarding a “fair test”.
yes i know the theory behind a fwd is they are more efficient, but when i look at a aurion V falcon when it comes to fuel efficiency and acceleration i dont see a remarkable difference.
for this camry in the states to beat an XR6T it would smash an TRD Aurion which also has a blower. it wont beat a XR6T if it does run low 6’s any how.
im also assuming the camry motor you are talking about has direct injection?????
also is it 0-60mph or 0-100kmh times
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January 16th, 2008 at 6:49 pm
No its the same engine as ours, Im assuming different tuning or lighter car. As for acceleration no, I linked the test Toyota did between them ages back, the Aurion convincingly beat the Falcon… alot of reviews now area also stating the Aurion is quicker, the Drive one was the most accurate given it used a number of measures. As I also said, given the U.S Camry with the same engine does the 100 in 6 seconds… FACT… then the Aurion must be relatively close, not in 7s.
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January 16th, 2008 at 7:06 pm
well this sub 6 sec camry really makes the TRD look like a POS then hey??
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January 16th, 2008 at 7:07 pm
Who gives a flying F..k what fuel economy it gets?
The XR6T is $12,000 cheaper than the AURION TRD..thats a lot of extra petrol you can afford……not to mention its quicker!
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January 16th, 2008 at 7:44 pm
BM stick to the womans mags… we aint talking about fuel efficiency or the TRD.
Andrew.M… its all Toyota… its all better then whatever Ford can offer
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January 16th, 2008 at 8:15 pm
Ok, if toyota offers better vehicle (performance wise) then ford, why does toyota need to get there performane arm TRD just to get close to the XR6Turbo. n even then its more expensive. If trd n toyota had a brain they would have taken there arion n let TRD put an all wheel drive system n some decent power n torque figures. If the XR^turbo can beat it, whats the F6 Tyhphoon gonna do to it, let alone the orion version of the XR6Turbo n F6 Tyhphoon. So BM can stick to this website n you can go to ur toyota website!!!
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January 16th, 2008 at 8:34 pm
hahaha……Thanks Cobra 302
Ummm Paul so what the hell was this then
‘Andrew.M… you have trouble dealing with facts, such as FWD being more efficient, its just common sense. The fact is Aurion only has 10kw more to its advantage (weight offset by torque), yets its far quicker in accleration.”
Heres a tip for you next time Paul………when some one mentions PERFORMANCE CAR……..we don’t want any mention of bloody economy figures in it,please !!
So why are we talking about poverty pac cars in one breath and performance in another .Thought this was about a soooooooo called Toyota FWD Performance Car…..now that was an Oxymoron …hahaha
Oh and as for the mags………don’t read them !!!! Money on it there more of a range of car books on my coffee table than yours.. How many Toyota mags do they make?hehehe
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January 16th, 2008 at 8:38 pm
TP,
just face it Toyota is just the poor mans version of a Lexus.
they take all the good bits out. in most cases the sheet metal is exactlly the same
“Andrew.M… its all Toyota… its all better then whatever Ford can offer”
^^^^ whats that mean? does that mean you love yourself? thats how i translate it
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January 16th, 2008 at 9:02 pm
“just face it Toyota is just the poor mans version of a Lexus.”
Want to make a more obvious statement?????
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January 16th, 2008 at 9:04 pm
The fact that Toyota owns Lexus ensures that Andrew M!! And technically, Lexus is a rich man’s Toyota, not the other way around…
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January 17th, 2008 at 4:09 am
lol at the “toyota is a poor man’s lexus” comment.
but just a tid bit on Shane’s post.
Care to elaborate on how you were able to “drive the crap out of the Aurion” and managed to compare it “directly” mind you to an SV6?
and still manage to claim that SV6 craps on it?
Our evaluation group drove them and tested both and they didnt notice anything significant enough… mind you they factor in, that one is FWD the other is RWD… for them to claim one “craps” on another… that wording just doesnt hold itself in engineering/evaluation.
built wise… SV6 has some good bits but as all cars have bad bits too. In the end, both cars are good for their purpose, again the buyer will choose which ever suits his/her needs more…. the RWD obviously biased towards RWD-fans.. obviously.
And for the price, TRD Aurion, Ford XR6 Turbo…. and Subaru Liberty Spec B GT… I’d get the Liberty to be honest. Aurion is nice, so is the XR6.. but Liberty is very under rated I think.
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January 17th, 2008 at 6:00 am
GEE COOL!
If it is a poor man’s Lexus…dam the quality is high! Must be fairly accurate as more written of them positive then negative. Finally the Celica is coming back in 2009, and yes I like its raw edgy look. Why……….well Toyota take the envelope on that model and set the pace and not just design same as opposition! WOULD NOT IT BE SO BORING IF ALL CARS LOOKED SORT OF SIMILAR! On that note, any car maker who does that deserves comment positive! MAZDA, HYUNDAI ARE TWO I SPEAK OF.
And by the way loved the Topgear trek on the North Pole, dam bulletproof 4WD and loved the look of it heaps! What did Jeremy Clarkson utter at end of show?????????
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January 17th, 2008 at 6:06 am
….oh yeah Clarkson and his trusty sidekick where in a massive Toyota Hilux. Top colour, wicked flares; and gee didnt he abuse the absolute crap out of it as was clearly evident. Some minor hickups with suspension but it was clear to see how that happened. The most barren harshest place on earth conquered first time with massive amounts of luck and a car that is built to take it! TOP SHOW THAT WAS! CONGRATS TOYOTA!
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January 17th, 2008 at 2:49 pm
i drive a camry ateva,,my wife she is driving an aurion trd,,not big thing mat ,i lke more ateva is more secure ,,tha aurin is v6,,200 kw,,but it takes very hard,,i prefer more camry ateva,,if somebody nevare drive’s 1 of this cars dont wryte nothing
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January 22nd, 2008 at 10:44 am
“Toyota leads the way!”………..with another unsafe overpowered FWD!
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January 22nd, 2008 at 11:14 am
Look at the 3rd pic, “regenerate your thinking”. Yes they do need to regenerate their thinking, by doing something about unsafe overpowerd FWDs.
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January 25th, 2008 at 1:24 pm
Why pay about………….say another $10,000 over a sportivo for no power all you are paying for really is the TRD Badge and different rims!!!!! WOW!!! What a waste of money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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