hmmm cheaper look for the zetec, no more projector headlights and from what ive heard a significant drop in interior materials quality
Yeah the plastics inside are harder than the previous version, and the steering wheel only adjusts up and down… but dont think either would be a deal breaker, considering all the safety gear they come with now, and the upgrade to 1.6 for the auto as well.
still, heaps better than the ex-Daewoo rubbish Holden feeds us.
Total agreement there ‘speak your mind’ I mean ford/mazda could have just rebadged their cars and left everything else the same… like Holden have done with Barina etc, but at least Ford and Mazda have made efforts to make their versions of the 2/fiesta different.
sorry duckula. you seem to be under the impression that ford and mazda are still closely linked. this model fiesta is made by ford. the only mazda link is the chassis/subframe. everything else ford makes.
So the diesel gets less power but more torque, and costs 10% of the purchase price of the car more than the petrol options? Hmm.
I am not trying to justify the extra cost of the diesel, but torque is much more important in everyday driving than power. The average driver spends a lot more time in the torque band than the power band.
power is torque times revs
greater peak torque means more greater power, at a particular rev range
commuting in traffic then requires lower revs
but of course the difference is smaller at lower revs
and ultimately it is power that does the work
lower peak power makes overtaking dangerous
its a not a great sight when a small car tries to overtake on the freeway
What the above does not take into consideration is if you measure AVERAGE power across the rev range, the deisel is likely to have more power (say, 60KW) than petrol (say 40KW average despite 88Kw max). This means petrol version won’t go faster unless you manage to constantly keep it at max revs, which is not realistic.
Diesels always have less power and more torque than petrol versions. And diesel engines always cost more that petrol equivalents. So nothing new or surprising here…
i think you need you get in touch with this century,not last.most diesels now have a touch more power,and twice the torque…
My god that sedan is hideous. Why would anyone even consider buying that?
It’s unbelievable that Ford is not providing the 2011 Fiesta diesel with an automatic transmission. They are light years behind Volkswagen. The Polo can be had with a seven speed dual clutch for both petrol and diesel. Also Polo has curtain airbags across the range as standard equipment. Ford doesn’t even provide curtain airbags as standard equipment across the Falcon range; very disappointing.
Perhaps if people in Australia weren’t so fussy about changing gears this wouldn’t be a problem. Maybe it would encourage people to actually learn how to drive a car as well. Having said that, maybe the working parameters (e.g. diesel engine) and/or final product in terms of lowering emissions disallows an automatic transmission. I’m sure for the banana/s that wish to complain about this will get their way one day when ford can afford to equip a seven speed automatic transmission to a respective diesel engine and sell it to the masses.
It’s a shame the nice looking 3-door model has gone in exchange for that hideous sedan.
Some of us buy the car that meets our needs. For me, the space in the boot for a wheelchair is a dealbreaker. It’s why I’m not buying a Polo. Thats why the Mazda 2 is now off the shortlist. The Fiesta would be nicer with a CD stacker, but I can put up with it.
I will wait a few months and hope they recognise the demand for an auto diesel.
Again, the sedan variant won’t selling well in Australian market, same like Mazda2 sedan & Honda City. It might be attractive in Asia, but not in here.
You also pay a hell of a lot more for a Polo and if you want the extras that a Fiesta has, you have to add that onto the already bigger price of the Polo. For the money, the Fiesta is a better buy
i have seen the sedan in the flesh. its not ugly at all. yes the photo is ugly and the photographer should be shot.
I am absolutely furious that the Ford Fiesta that I have just bought brand new has NO SPARE WHEEL, NO JACK AND NO BRACE. All we have is a dangerous, useless mobility kit. Shame on you Ford! We were not told by the salesman that it had no spare wheel and indeed when we spoke to him HE didn’t know it didn’t have a spare. If we had known we would have walked away and not bought the car. This is a deceitful and unfair practice which needs to be changed by law. SO buyer beware. If you have been caught out do as I have done and make a complaint to the Office of Fair Trading.
I totally agree with you. I too was caught out. The worse part was I ordered a space saver (as an added extra for $370) which was on backorder when i picked up my car. Then I actually got a puncture within the 1st week. That crap mobility kit they provide did not plug up the puncture. So i had no spare and no jack. Then ford could not fix the brand new tire and wanted to charge me $300 + to buy another tire as punctures are not covered under warranty. I was less than impressed
My daughter has an automatic and has nothign but trouble with the transmission. It has “dead” spots when it changes gear ( as if it is gliding in nuetral), worse under heavy accelaration (pulling out at an intersection or overtaking) and stalls under heavy breaking. She doesn’t feel safe driving it but is stuck with it. Ford checked it out, upgraded software, reset it, taught it to change gears again etc etc and it still happens. Every time it goes in they spend hours driving it around to identify ot fix the fault and send it back with no fuel. Not happy.
Hi Michael and all the members on this page. My wife is thinking of buying the Ford Fiesta Zetec auto and I have been doing some research and it seems that people are having problems with the transmission, with jerking and the transmission shifting into neutral. It seems that this car is useless. Can anyone advise if they are having the same problems as Michael. Did your daugther take the care for a dest drive before buying it? Thanks
I was in the exact same situation and had not been informed… my user manual told me where to find my jack etc but when looking all there was is a dicky pump!!! Might I add that on a 2cm side wall gash, all it achieved was spraying me with flix! The tow truck driver had a good laugh at me, as after being run through the ringer trying to get hold of ford, I was told that they only offer new car towing AFTER the 15,000km service (my car was 2 months old) – again, something they should probably mention in the manual??
Now looking into spare tyres, jacks and braces – all of which I believe should be a given!
Yes i fully agree i was caught out aswell i bought the 2011 ford 5 door hatch auto ,all cars should come with a spare wheel etc,i couldnt believe it after paying for my car at the car yard when i was checking everything and looked for the spare and all i seen was a pump and puncture kit,then the salesman said o yes they dont come with a spare wheel etc now, i was shocked,its bad enough they dont have a fuel cap let alone a spare wheel ,come on ford what are you thinking ,money saving, i call that ripping the buyer off maybe if all of us complain about this, ford might have some heart and give us a spare wheel after all we have paid for it in the total price of the car.Anyway the Zetec auto is a top car and would be better again if we all had a spare tyre .
Same story here. I was caught out while away visiting my daughter on the coast. There is no way I can use the stupid repair kit. I had to leave my car with flat tyre overnight for it to be repaired the next day. I then went to ask about a spare tyre for it and was quoted $370 for the yellow emergency excuse for a wheel. It would not have got me out of trouble anyway as it is only good up to 80kms per hour and not for a long 4 hour trip home.
If I buy a full size wheel it was quoted at $490 just for the wheel, then a tyre is needed. I presume a jack and wheel brace as well!! I am NOT happy. And yes, I do believe that I paid for a spare wheel when I bought the car new. I am told that there is not enough room for a full size wheel in the wheel hub so it will cause the cover to have a hump in it! What is Ford thinking?