Not a Santa Fe against an Audi for instance!

Maybe the guys need to indicate what their judging them against to help you!

From pillar to post Holden has been bragging about its Billion dollar baby, sadly though pouring good money after bad really hasn’t helped the cause. The Holden Commodore and all its offshoots still offer a level of refinement similar to a 2yr old being potty trained. And sadly though [Frugal One] I do not believe looking to the U.S. for a boost will offer much in the way of future stability.

With both General Motors and Ford trying to stay afloat whilst running with huge deficits I doubt that either will be making headlines with groundbreaking advancements or technology anytime soon.

Suffice to say I think this argument is one to rival religious debate and the only logical conclusion I can see on the horizon will come about as the Aussie-Americans fall into liquidation.

Debate aside, the Audi S8 is a powerhouse for the discerning buyer, and hopefully will continue to fly under the radar of the cashed-up Bogan for some years ahead.

As I said, I’ve driven both and the Audi is in a totally different league.

You mention they’re both “luxo”. The Senator doesn’t even come close to matching the Audi features list. The Senator is also smaller than the A8 – significantly.

Performance certainly isn’t similar. The 6-speed auto ‘box in the Senator is rubbish compared to the 6-speed used in the S8. The Senator also won’t corner at speed in the wet when compared to the S8.

Finally, the S8 isn’t the top-of-the-line model in the A8 range, that goes to the A8 L W12.

Your estimation of the depreciation of the car is also inaccurate. The S8’s depreciation percentage is actually lower than the Senator’s…

Seriously, the Senator isn’t competition to the S8 and anyone who buys an S8 would laugh at any attempt to compare the two.

There is a twin-turbo V8 Diesel available though, which produces some 650Nm of torque.

1.They both have over 300kW
2.Both are the top of the line model for each manufacturer.
3.Performance is similar
4.Both are large and luxo.

I think we should soon see a power boost in the HSV [maybe they can fit the Vette 7L donk] soon as FPV come out with its new range.

One things for sure, the S8 would drop $100k in the first year, a alarming fall really.

Yes the audi is in a different class, but they are offereing similar idea, just the audi is aiming for uber-rich upper clients.
Having said that, i would pay a extra $70k and step up to sister brand Bentley Cont. GT.Now THATS is a impressive beast!

Agree about the C63, its alleged the best sports sedan from Germany yet!

Cheers

F-0

There is a W12 diesel available. The flagship model is the Audi A8 W12.

Frugal One:

Having driven both the E-series Senator and this vehicle, the quality is not only a “little better”, it’s leaps and bounds better.

No, the car isn’t overpriced. You must compare this vehicle to its competition, not a vehicle in HSV’s range. When compared to its competition, it’s some $50,000 cheaper than its nearest rival.

C63…you do understand the C-class is to two model ranges smaller than the A8? The A8’s competition includes the S-class and 7-series.

WAY overpriced, no better than say a C63 Benz [M3 eater]

Impressive stero if nothing else, AND can have:

“Powered By Lamborgini” on the windscreen! :-)

Cheers

F-O

Hmmm… Why have a steering wheel then? :)

Each headlight cluster also has 5 LED lights which operate when the parking lights are on, in combination with the LED brake lights.