Going to be tough to steal sales from Getz, but the Spark should smash it on looks alone. Such a shame they cant stick a decent motor in it. Suzuki stuck a brilliant little twin cam 1.3 in the GTi many years ago. It revved to 8500 rpm and scared the pants of many a car 3 times its capacity. Begs the question why Holden cant do similar
Should be hard to steal sales from anyone with this thing but knowing Australian consumers Im sure we will see a few of these on the road in no time.
There are better contenders out there such as i20, fiesta and mazda2; if after something slightly bigger, and they are not as offensive style wise.
I think John is totally right in labelling this a feminine car. I jut cant see many self respecting men purchasing this unless it is for their teenage daughter.
And isnt this the car that had a jamaican accent in transformers2 like 4 years ago? Oh it makes me hate it even more….
Four stars? I reckon that’s proof enough that the scoring system is irrelevant, but that aside, it seems this is a better car than the current Barina (not hard to do). Sure, the headlights would look oversized on a Mack truck, and that engine would be overwhelmed with the weight of some women’s handbags, but visual quality-wise is a noticeable improvement. The new Aveo would be better still.
Needs more headlight
Hehe – love it.
Duce Bigalo (dunno if I spelt that right) comes to mind:
“That’s a huge…..” er, face
“so it rises and falls as you height-adjust the wheel. It’s the one point of commonality between a Nissan GTR and a Barina Spark”
that’d be the 350/370z, not GTR
Sorry, you’re wrong. The GTR’s instrument cluster moves in tandem with the steering wheel up/down adjustment. At least it did on the two I’ve driven. And a bunch of other road testers seem to agree.
You are both right, the GT-R and the 370Z’s steering wheel moves up and down.
Im a male and actually really like it. It looks much better in the metal my only gripe is the 90s style door handles on the front doors, congrats to holden though for offering such a high level of safety and spec as the base model in the uk looks rubbish. also rate the projector fog lights
ok, hand em over. your balls I mean.
This is 2010. Are people really that insecure that they worry a car purchasing choice questions their manhood?
I drive my wife’s old 89 jelly-bean barina around the suburbs daily. It also is supposedly a girly gar (It’s the same one that had a sportsgirl promotional variant).
It is just another car. It is made of metal, it has an engine and it gets me to the train station on weekdays and carries a couple of bits of wood or bags of cement on weekends.
It owes me nothing, it does what I ask and that’s all that matters.
sounds like the kind of comment a woman would make about a car.
ooooh moderate that!
“Sportec is an easy-clean water-repellant faux leather finish.”
Translation: “it has vinyl seats”?
If so that is not a bad thing, some of us get dirty at work and play and it is nice to have an easy to clean car. Will holden be offering vinyl in other cars in their line up?
I wish they would just do it as an option. I can see the need for vinyl but I can’t see many tradies driving one of these and they’ll get terribly hot in summer.
geez vinyl seats are better than cloth at least
This with an auto?
Well, yeah – except if you can’t drive a manual. Think: Gen Y chick.
So… Gen Y Chick = Torture??
Yes but you pay extra for that….so I hear.
Or ,in my case, a stroke survivor with no movement in my left arm and little in my left leg. I too used to be horrified by the thought of a small auto, now it’s a neccessary evil. It’s either that or no driving at all.Still think I’d prefer this to anIndian built Alto.
Mmate, if you opened your scope a little, you would know that holden engineers have had a hand in ALL new GM DAT products, and some from the US and China. Get over the Korean=bad quality.
yeah korean cars can be good!!
hyundai and kia yes!! daewoo no!
Finally some nice small cars coming out of GM DAT. Holden is really gonna be scaring Toyota with all this new product coming from the empire. Maybe Holden is planning a more agrssive(read powerful) version in the future. With the Black extrior and red interior, it looks quiet good.
I totally agree with you Shak, but I’m very disappointed in the fact that many have voted you down (which will most probably happen to me now). As pointed out in the review, the Spark is a part of the “GM DAT 2.0″ vehicles, which are certainly a lot better than their predecessors. Further, Holden is offering a very competitive package here, and I think it is a very attractive proposition for prospective car buyers.
You could fit a full size spare behind those headlights lol
What is with that tack-on LCD next to the Speedometer? It hardly looks integrated! Rather distasteful I think. The proportions are also awkward, but that’s also what people were saying about the Cruz.
I would be that ‘boyfriend who hates it’, I’m afraid.
Being a bloke and having an opinion on this car is like being a bloke and trying to tell the difference between different handbags. It can’t be done.
Lol good one!
It’s a very safe car. And the quality seems pretty good to me.
Go to the motor show look at every car in this segment, and then tell me if this has good quality.
By far the worst quality car at the Motor Show! That’s a FACT!
i was just there yeaterday, and i went and sat in all of its competitors. it has by far the bst legroom, and interior design. The Alto is pure and simple BAD. Obviosuly i couldnt judge the new Swift, but that should be very competitive.
Safe eh? That’s a very, shall we say “subjective” word. Given the choice, I’d rather be in a 10 year old “dunger” Falcon/Commodore than that thing in a head on between the two.
yep, its people like you that have no clue about modern day safety tech, and things such as ultra-high tensile steels, and aluminium being used in cars. People like you think, that if i have a big mass of steel and iron in front of me, i’ll be right. cars like this have things called passive and active safety.
So true. I’ve seen an online video of a Chevy Bel Air in a head-on collision with a wall (It was a safety test I suppose)…it was crushed to its back passenger seats like a plastic party cup. Bigger car ≠ safety.
*Sorry, it was actually a Chevy Bel Air against a 2009 Chevy Malibu.
It will be interesting how many they actually sell. Will outer suburban Jersey Shore wannabe hairdressers be willing to learn how to drive a manual? Perhaps Holden should offer extra incentives by quoting the price in baby bonus payments or Tatts pokies payouts.
Still, as cheap as they are there’s no reason to pay full price. Wait a few months and your local Cash Converters will be full of them.
That’s a bit unkind – less than five per cent of people in this country tend to buy new cars every year. They tend to be among the richest third of the population. Also, it’s the same price as a Getz, broadly, and Cash Converters isn’t full of them.
i smell total fail.
who remembers the holden/opel tigra they imported as manual only, that died after 3 months.
The manual transmission is under development and on the way. Sixty per cent of Barina sales are currently manual.
they were 34,990 and were never advertised !!! i know i had to sell them
has it got reverse sensors? i dont know any woman that can parralell park,even in something that small.
I guess, to be fair, a woman would probably reply to you that she doesn’t know too many blokes who can even spell ‘parallel’…
ok ,got me on that one,I cant spell but you get the general idea.anyway marketing a manual car at women who only ever seem to want an auto is marketing suicide
Parking sensors for something this small are you serious?
There is intensive parking courses in Europe.
BUTT UGLY.!!! On looks alone this thing,will have trouble selling.
you have no sence of style!
Wow… I guarantee 99.99% of people will disagree with that – Gen Y females or otherwise!
this is a global design engineered by Chev Opel and input by Holden that happens to be built in Korea, one of several factories this will be built in globally.
When will people also see that 4cyl 1.2 lit is a big engine for its class. This competes with Alto not Getz.
As a sideline maybe Holden should market this with the tag:
\”Down with the Vadge Flash\” lol
This car is by far the worst car in terms of quality at the motor show. Interiors are rubbish a complete peace of crap.
Actually the Holden range had the worst interior quality by far, complete rubbish.
Only the Commodore kind of survives, but even when you close the door is doesn’t have that thump.
“Actually the Holden range had the worst interior quality by far, complete rubbish.”
I have to agree with that. It isn’t so obvious when you look at them in isolation but when I went to the motor show I was struck by how cheap and nasty the entire Holden range felt in comparison to, well, pretty much everything around them.
This is going to be a huge winner for Holden. Just watch and see!
The key selling feature is The badge. Girls just see “Holden” and assume that everything is hunky-dory.
It will be a huge winner for Holden (probably more so because Gen Y girls willbe prompted by their Gen-Y “Transformer” loving boyfriends to by one)
Will be a bigger winner when the Auto comes.
haha well im a 20yr old female and im actaully getting one on the weekend! i think there a great car! Oh and ill be getting a manual as its more fun!!
i think everyone should be tought how to drive a manual!
I drive a manual. Im picking this car up tomorrow. It’s my first brand new car and Im very proud. Yes it is very Gen-Y, however, ALL cars have their stereotypes attached. I have had a Mitsubishi Colt (’85), Ford Meteor (86′), Ford Festiva (’95), Nissan Pulsar (’03) and a Mitsubishi Lancer (’01), not through bad driving, rather just certain events in my life. I test drove the Spark and coming from a performance Lancer, it seemed perfectly fine to me. Oh and I bought it in Luscious Kiss Pink. Its interior and exterior is what you call Modern…you know that word…Modern. Yes I like the vintage cars of the 40-70’s and Ive grown up with a backyard full of very tough Holden Commodores, but the world has to understand that manufacturers have to move with the flow of society. We change our mobiles regularly due to sleeker designs amongst many other reasons…well this car is just doing that, keeping up with societies pace and want and need for modern looks.
WOW…. Hideous much?
More flairs than a 70’s Disco. Enough headlight to illuminate the Bat signal. 1.2 litre motor? and no auto? Survey says……. Swift. Suzuki owns this market closely followed by Getz due to price. My prediction, with in a few months the Barina will be back to its old drive away price point. You don’t have to be a bright Spark to work that out.
car advice rating is crap, 2 stars for how does it go, but still 4 stars as an overall rating. i would of thought how much power (or lack of) it has is more important than the other 2 factors. 3 stars for me
I don’t and have never understood the bizarre “rating” system caradvice use. Do the “How does it go, drive and look” have any impact on the final rating?
And what is the difference between the “Go” and the “Drive” rating? I presume the “Go” refers to the cars acceleration? A whole criterion for how a car goes? There is no rating for fuel economy, price or value, three areas in which for all intents and purposes this car has been designed for.
Insect , looks like a cricket , sometimes you can look dumb driving a certain car , this is one
only the green cocktail colour looks like an insect mate???
I like it
Hyundai are sooooo stupid, the i20 is still not for sale at my local dealer…yet they are spending tons on advertising it on TV….!!?!?!?
Go to a different dealer, I have seen heaps parked out the front of Melbourne ones near me.
That’s one of the most incohesive, ugly piles of crap I’ve ever seen. Fortunately for Holden marketing, it has a Holden badge on it and the younger generation (of which I’m a part) will believe almost anything they are told regarding style. No doubt it’ll be a sales winner for these two facts alone- I can see absolutely NO other reason to buy it.
well it shows that you have no idea what your talking about. This car is going to sell very well. You wait and seel.
…and clearly you can’t read because I said it would be a sales winner. Goose…
I am writing a bit off topic here, but i think many people at the AIMS felt the same as i did. I, being a Holden fan was looking forward to viewing each and every Holden and HSV, but to my surprise, when we turn up all the HSV’s are locked and there are no HSV employees/stand people their to even ask about the cars. Then onto Holden, and the employees were acting as if they were to high to talk to anyone, and when asked about HSV, they said thats not our department, we dont know anything about them, we dont own or sell them. How dare they be so stuck up and high and mighty, when i received better service at the MB, And Audi stands , not to mention the warm embrace you felt at the Ford stand. And the fact that you could sit in every Audi(bar the A8, which is understandable), and also every Merc(except the SLS, and CL). Shame on Holden for such a despicable reception. They have just lost My SS-V trade in. Plain and Simple i am VERY VERY angry with them.
Stop whinning you little girl, do you need a tampon
This is supposed to be your comments on the Barina Spark, and NOT a platform for you to whinge like a schoolgirl about your silly HSVs!
I’m sure Holden is gonna be absolutely mortified that you’re taking your trade elsewhere… not! Maybe you should be contemplating buying an Austin 1800… sounds more like your scene?
Another site gave this car the same rating as CA. 4 stars? Are you guys serious? I don’t see the sexy looks being described by some and I am amazed it rates as highly as a falcon or commodore. It’s an improvement on the current heap of crap but I’d rate that one at 2 stars and this is only just better to my eye. It must be a damned good drive to earn 4 stars.
The headlights look like they were stolen off a large car and forced to fit. I’m obviously missing something.
I think the rating system, sorta works against the competitors in the segment. So a mid sized sedan that gets four starts is not equivalent to the Four stars that a full sized Limo would earn. get me?
imho, they’ve completely missed their own target demographic by only offering it with a manual. how many young women are there out there who can drive a manual, or are even inclined to learn?
but having said that, put a holden badge on a lada and people will buy it…
I sat in one of these at AIMS. I cannot use the word “quality” in any sentence relating to this car. Many hard, shiny plastic pieces, rear lights designed by someone in kindergarten. It was simply abhorrent. It belongs back in the 1980’s.
@ shak I agree the people on the Holden stand were too busy talking among themselves to bother with the potential buyer who paid $20 to look at their cars. The stand was a disgrace. I agree the Ford, Hyundai, VW, Mercedes, Audi, Skoda stands and others were all full of men and women who approached the punter with a smile and talked openly about their cars. Holden = FAIL
its because they have to speak with time wasters like yourself,
@RS5 on what basis would you make that statement?
“-2 John Cadogan says:
October 23, 2010 at 6:37 am
The manual transmission is under development and on the way. Sixty per cent of Barina sales are currently manual.”
So they are happy to lose 40% of their market coz
1 Holden has to much money
2 Holden did not design it
3 Holden forgot to tick that box when they placed the order with GM Deawoo
4 Holden will provide free driving lessons
5 Holden don’t want fleet sales
Like posted above. Full price for a few months then out comes the big discounts.
there is not auto for the 1.2 Spark anywhere in GM world at the moment. Only the 1.0 that is sold overseas comes in an auto but they do not come with all the safety gear that the 1.2 does.
I would rather starve for 2 days a week and put the savings toward something decent looking like the slightly larger Swift or Fiesta!
The headlight is too big!! It looks out of proportion with the whole car.
I have driven this and it is a nice car perfect for a first car or just a run around
@RS5 do you work for Holden? Are they paying you to say this?
no I had one for a hire car.
My Housemate just bought one of these, First one in the Illawarra to be purchased. Black with Red interior and “rose stripe” seats… Picking up Monday…
When my housemate first saw the car, they fell in love.. loved the style, interior and features… not to fussed on the rear, but everything else tickled their fancy….
and yes, my housemate is a Girl…
AND she’s a fan of TF2..though i was surprised she didn’t recognize it…i had to google a pic and show her the twins.. she loves it even more now.. lol
I’m a 22 year old female, thankfully driving manual. I want this car. *drool*
If only the front design (*drool*) leaked around to the back…
I can’t help thinking of the family guy episode where Peter stupidly buys a Tank for Meg instead of a sensible car like this.An old army tank doesn’t even have half the safety products of this Barina.
Good design & the engine is good enough for a girl to like, as is the safety & equipment features. I seen one the other day near where I live & it was in red covered with black stripes it looked really good. I looked at the driver & it was a girl naturally
Barina Spark sold around 300 cars in 10 days in October 2010. Awesome job, Go HOLDEN!
I am a 20 yr old female and this is the ugliest thing I have ever seen. I saw one in a car park yesterday and it looks even worse in real life! I find it so bizarre that they are like “the car will sell based on looks” when it is so ugly. I would get a fiesta (my dream car), mazda 2 or 3, i30 or i20 over this any day!!
im a 20yr old female too and i love the car! getting one this wkend actaully! yes its more of a girly car but it has a few pros to it!
Nicola i would aim a little higher to have a dream car just as amazda 2 or 130 etc!!
Any company that makes something so ugly better be prepared to go out of business!
GM should start globalising the Corsa instead like Ford’s doing with the Fiesta. Stop rebadging dodgy Daewoos please!
I’m a 53 year old bloke living at the far south end of the Adelaide urban fringe who spends his weekdays looking after his 19 month old grand-daughter. My current car is a series one Ford Ka which has been the best car I’ve ever owned. The economics of the Spark compare well with the Ka, the Spark’s upholstery will stand up to more dirt and abuse than the Ka, the Spark has 5 doors so it’s easier to get the bub in and out of the child seat than the 3 door Ka, and it’s eight grand cheaper than the Mazda 2 that I’d really like! Ugly is in the eye of the beholder. Beautiful is a TR7 or an HG Monaro. Ugly is any HQ Holden or anything made by Chrysler except the Chargers. I’ve been for test drives in the Spark and the Getz and I’m thinking the Spark might just be the winner.
Drove one yesterday ( Dealer Demo loaned while waiting for fleet car being fixed) and I can honestly say I have nothing good to say about it ( and Im not going to harp on about where its made or its power or re badging or anything ) Im just saying from a purely ‘ just get in the car and drive’ point of view it was truely bloody awful ( no matter who makes it), its ugly,tinny,cheap plastic, uncomfortable… I could go on… Ive driven lots of cheap crap cars, and you can always find some redeeming feature, no matter how small… but this thing was just wrong in every aspect…
I drive a VSpec II Nur GTR and just bought one of these Sparks for my other half and we don’t find it too bad at all – in fact, I’ve got no issues driving it at all.
It serves exactly the purpose it was bought for; that is to be a cheap, economical car that we can feel happy leaving at the train station during the week.
It also runs and sounds better on 95 octane than it does on 91.
I am not really into small cars but… saw one of these (CDX?) in black with black alloy wheels. It actually looked very good.
The misogyny on this blog is extremely disturbing. The constant demeaning of women can only reflect a society that hasn’t yet grown up and sees cars as a mask of masculinity.
Grow up boys, your immaturity is showing. It’s 2011 not 1951 the rest of the world is moving on.
Just did a shoot for an upcoming production . Fiat 500 v Spark . The Spark ate the 500 on the track ! The lesser of two evils ? But check out the price difference . You pay for percieved character & the chance of sus’ reliability . The Fiat ain’t starting !!
I have owned a spark now for just over a month. I only have one fault; power. It is a little embarassing travelling along Mt Ousley, but at least it’s done in style.
The handling is great. Easy to use features. My dad is happy I drive it around now instead of my 1985 Toyota Liteace.
Sorry guys, it’s definately not for the men, but for girls looking for men. It gets tonnes of attention from the boys, especially the luscious kiss pink ones like mine with the green P’s on it.
My work car is some sort of 4wheel drive and they’re at opposite ends of the spectrum. You don’t need big guns to negotiate corners or a trunk sized left leg to change gears. (which might be a down point, gotta get that zumba dvd out instead or put down the fork, ladies)
Overall, it’s all that I need. Big enough to fit my closest friends in. Small enough to find a parking stop anywhere without a “hail Mary, full of grace, open up a parking space”.
I’m getting one for my Daughter she love the look I like the price.The comments from what I suppose are Commodore and Falcon loving males – what the hell are you doing looking and commenting on a small car like this??? you have no interest in this type of car
Awsome, You right Viv it is a very stylish little car im also thinking of getting a little red one in the future. I can picture myself driving down the city streets in it!
Do the white ones come with a little string out the back? Or even the red ones ewww don’t go there lol
My Favourite Colour Is Red, Whats Yours and why bother to comment if you are going to be stupid!
I bought my daughter the 2011 green cdx barina spark for her first car. Even though she loves it we are having a problem with a loud noise coming from the front. It sounds like metal ticking against something. She has only had it for about 6 months but the service repairer cant fix the noise. We have had it in for over a week a couple of times; they say they fixed it but it still makes the loud clanging, mainly in low gear. just wondering if anyone else has had this problem?
To anyone reading this in 2013, my sister has the 2010 CDX version, and she is trying to find tyres to suit the 165/60/15 alloys. No one makes them anymore. Her local Holden dealers response? Too bad.