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	<title>Comments on: Tough new anti-hoon laws for NSW</title>
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		<title>By: glen</title>
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		<dc:creator>glen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>also this is gonna make people panic if they get seen hooning and try and get away from the cops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>also this is gonna make people panic if they get seen hooning and try and get away from the cops.</p>
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		<title>By: glen</title>
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		<dc:creator>glen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is there any law about doing a burnout in your own driveway</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is there any law about doing a burnout in your own driveway</p>
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		<title>By: mitch</title>
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		<dc:creator>mitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 09:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the simple fact is the government cant stop speeding, police are cracking down on it because P platers keep killing themselves. alot of people on this thread do sound like hoons that just want to go fast and thats perfectly fine but just remember one mistake at speed and thats it. i lost a best mate of 12 years last week because he was a hoon. pulled a telegraph pole out of the ground in a 180sx. im not looking for sympathy or anything just trying to give another perspective on the matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the simple fact is the government cant stop speeding, police are cracking down on it because P platers keep killing themselves. alot of people on this thread do sound like hoons that just want to go fast and thats perfectly fine but just remember one mistake at speed and thats it. i lost a best mate of 12 years last week because he was a hoon. pulled a telegraph pole out of the ground in a 180sx. im not looking for sympathy or anything just trying to give another perspective on the matter.</p>
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		<title>By: daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 13:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nuthing will stop speeding ,the only thing to do is to control it!!
limiting the engine size to a 2l engine is also stupid coz a 2l car has a fair bit of balls ,some n14 pulsars have an sr20 ,which is fast enuff to do damage ,nothing will stop speeding ,like i said ,the only way is to control it by having drag meets and stuff like that

thats juust my opinion atleast</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nuthing will stop speeding ,the only thing to do is to control it!!<br />
limiting the engine size to a 2l engine is also stupid coz a 2l car has a fair bit of balls ,some n14 pulsars have an sr20 ,which is fast enuff to do damage ,nothing will stop speeding ,like i said ,the only way is to control it by having drag meets and stuff like that</p>
<p>thats juust my opinion atleast</p>
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		<title>By: SickBro</title>
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		<dc:creator>SickBro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 06:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good laws i reckon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good laws i reckon</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 05:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two words: driver ed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two words: driver ed.</p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 04:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These laws aren&#039;t going to stop &#039;hoons&#039; from driving recklessly, they&#039;ll just make it more exciting, knowing the consequences. And why should the police have the right to suspend your licence for up to 12 months when thats what we have a magistrate for!
Thats totally barbaric!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These laws aren&#8217;t going to stop &#8216;hoons&#8217; from driving recklessly, they&#8217;ll just make it more exciting, knowing the consequences. And why should the police have the right to suspend your licence for up to 12 months when thats what we have a magistrate for!<br />
Thats totally barbaric!!</p>
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		<title>By: JET12V</title>
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		<dc:creator>JET12V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 05:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The one thing that ticks me off about the NSW Government is their constant use of quick fix tactics on all things related to driving. Tell me why we built a state of the art drag racing complex which takes at least 50 min waiting for your next run and only on a wednesday night, what about Friday and Saturday nights????
And with Hoons being such a problem, why are we closing another great track, Oran Park to build more houses??? Will it be replaced with another simular venue, i don&#039;t think so and Eastern Creek are so full of themselves, they offer nothing. The majority of driver training days are held at Oran Park.
Just goes to show, NSW gov only have dollar signs in their eyes and really don&#039;t care what happens to society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The one thing that ticks me off about the NSW Government is their constant use of quick fix tactics on all things related to driving. Tell me why we built a state of the art drag racing complex which takes at least 50 min waiting for your next run and only on a wednesday night, what about Friday and Saturday nights????<br />
And with Hoons being such a problem, why are we closing another great track, Oran Park to build more houses??? Will it be replaced with another simular venue, i don&#8217;t think so and Eastern Creek are so full of themselves, they offer nothing. The majority of driver training days are held at Oran Park.<br />
Just goes to show, NSW gov only have dollar signs in their eyes and really don&#8217;t care what happens to society.</p>
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		<title>By: F@ GTHO</title>
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		<dc:creator>F@ GTHO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 01:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>maad i say maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaddd</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maad i say maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaddd</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 04:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, forgot to add...

restricting a driver to a car with a smaller displacement or no performance mods is another stupid idea.

anyone could wrap their mums excel around a pole, it just means they have to push it harder than a v8 or a turbo 4.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, forgot to add&#8230;</p>
<p>restricting a driver to a car with a smaller displacement or no performance mods is another stupid idea.</p>
<p>anyone could wrap their mums excel around a pole, it just means they have to push it harder than a v8 or a turbo 4.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 04:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is just nonsense. Instead of making up laws targeting hoons, why not spend the millions of dollars they take from tax payers and fund some driver education courses?

Learning how to control a car and learning about the consequences of speedind, racing and burnout is the main key in kurbing this behaviour. 

i&#039;m 18, and i like to drive quick. Fortunately i have a drag strip and track not too far from home, however why isnt there money thrown into creating a designated drag strip for people to have fun?

Just another revenue raising plan by the government</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is just nonsense. Instead of making up laws targeting hoons, why not spend the millions of dollars they take from tax payers and fund some driver education courses?</p>
<p>Learning how to control a car and learning about the consequences of speedind, racing and burnout is the main key in kurbing this behaviour. </p>
<p>i&#8217;m 18, and i like to drive quick. Fortunately i have a drag strip and track not too far from home, however why isnt there money thrown into creating a designated drag strip for people to have fun?</p>
<p>Just another revenue raising plan by the government</p>
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		<title>By: dw49on</title>
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		<dc:creator>dw49on</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 01:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>u CANNOT get in shit for taking off quick,hell u could even rev the fuck out of ur engine in front of a cop station and they wouild only do u for loud exhaust.These rules are SHITHOUSE,im losing my licence because some cop thought i was speeding in a school zone which is a deadset crok.
So now its my 2nd conviction,wat now i better get my hands on some prison greens and there going 2 samsh up my custom VR commodore wagon as well?Fucking joke</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>u CANNOT get in shit for taking off quick,hell u could even rev the fuck out of ur engine in front of a cop station and they wouild only do u for loud exhaust.These rules are SHITHOUSE,im losing my licence because some cop thought i was speeding in a school zone which is a deadset crok.<br />
So now its my 2nd conviction,wat now i better get my hands on some prison greens and there going 2 samsh up my custom VR commodore wagon as well?Fucking joke</p>
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		<title>By: Casey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Casey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 01:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did the NSW gov&#039;t ever consider spending money on getting driver&#039;s ed in to the cirriculum at school instead? 

I know it won&#039;t entirely solve the &#039;hoon&#039; issue, but it&#039;d give kids a better understanding of what a vehicle is and isn&#039;t capable of and allow driver development in a monitored environment.

Most parents can&#039;t drive, so what hope have kids got in learning from them. Private lessons are too expensive for most families, and unchecked a probationary driver just develops bad habits. 

I think Driver&#039;s Ed is an idea that is being discounted far too quickly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did the NSW gov&#8217;t ever consider spending money on getting driver&#8217;s ed in to the cirriculum at school instead? </p>
<p>I know it won&#8217;t entirely solve the &#8216;hoon&#8217; issue, but it&#8217;d give kids a better understanding of what a vehicle is and isn&#8217;t capable of and allow driver development in a monitored environment.</p>
<p>Most parents can&#8217;t drive, so what hope have kids got in learning from them. Private lessons are too expensive for most families, and unchecked a probationary driver just develops bad habits. </p>
<p>I think Driver&#8217;s Ed is an idea that is being discounted far too quickly.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 23:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Limiting everyone to 2.0L Engines makes more sense and even that is retarded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Limiting everyone to 2.0L Engines makes more sense and even that is retarded.</p>
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		<title>By: bubba ganush</title>
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		<dc:creator>bubba ganush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 22:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also agree with reckless.  It seems the only thing cops can do is crack down on motorists.  I&#039;m not dirty at the average cop doing his duty and yes there are good and bad cops out there.

But i bet he/she gets pissed off having to enforce these laws and also catching someone red handed for murder, go through all the paper work and hear that some slimy lawyer got them off due to &quot;society failing them&quot; and other nonsense.

They are not looking at all the factors of this problem. what about the insurance companies, finance companies, mummy and daddy that put their kids cars under their insurance policy so they can either own or pay cheaper rates or even worse just whip out the wallet and pay the fines for them?

and yes i know not all hoons drive import turbos or v8s there are alot that do it in clapped out camrys corollas hyundai excells EA&#039;s etc but i think punish repeat offenders but as time has proven tickets or losing a peice of plastic with their photo on isnt gonna deter them that much</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also agree with reckless.  It seems the only thing cops can do is crack down on motorists.  I&#8217;m not dirty at the average cop doing his duty and yes there are good and bad cops out there.</p>
<p>But i bet he/she gets pissed off having to enforce these laws and also catching someone red handed for murder, go through all the paper work and hear that some slimy lawyer got them off due to &#8220;society failing them&#8221; and other nonsense.</p>
<p>They are not looking at all the factors of this problem. what about the insurance companies, finance companies, mummy and daddy that put their kids cars under their insurance policy so they can either own or pay cheaper rates or even worse just whip out the wallet and pay the fines for them?</p>
<p>and yes i know not all hoons drive import turbos or v8s there are alot that do it in clapped out camrys corollas hyundai excells EA&#8217;s etc but i think punish repeat offenders but as time has proven tickets or losing a peice of plastic with their photo on isnt gonna deter them that much</p>
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		<title>By: daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 14:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is about time they got tougher with these laws - but its still not going to work.

On paper the laws look good (in the governments eyes) and when looking at them on paper I say to myself &quot;shit better be careful&quot;....which is what most people will say. How many people are going to say &quot;shit better not race, speed, race other cars anymore&quot;

I don&#039;t think the government will support the idea of a race track. Why would they put their name to a race track that a bunch of kids are going to kill themselves on? They all think they are Michael Schumacher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is about time they got tougher with these laws &#8211; but its still not going to work.</p>
<p>On paper the laws look good (in the governments eyes) and when looking at them on paper I say to myself &#8220;shit better be careful&#8221;&#8230;.which is what most people will say. How many people are going to say &#8220;shit better not race, speed, race other cars anymore&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the government will support the idea of a race track. Why would they put their name to a race track that a bunch of kids are going to kill themselves on? They all think they are Michael Schumacher.</p>
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		<title>By: Glen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 12:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no law against how fast you accelerate. And if the cop trys to charge you for it take it to court.

12 months jail for 1 measly burnout, what quantifies a burnout??? If its blatant hoon type stuff then maybe a night in the slammer but 12 months. You get less than that for drunk driving. J O A K joke</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no law against how fast you accelerate. And if the cop trys to charge you for it take it to court.</p>
<p>12 months jail for 1 measly burnout, what quantifies a burnout??? If its blatant hoon type stuff then maybe a night in the slammer but 12 months. You get less than that for drunk driving. J O A K joke</p>
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		<title>By: Me.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Me.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 11:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So this means if I lived in NSW, I take off at the lights and hit the gas too hard, I get a $3300 fine, 9 months jail &amp; 12 months license loss??? 

Come on! I understand if it were illigal well planed out drag and burnout competitions on the street and they keep doing it after they have already been in troble for it, but taking off too hard and you&#039;re faced with all that has gone too far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So this means if I lived in NSW, I take off at the lights and hit the gas too hard, I get a $3300 fine, 9 months jail &amp; 12 months license loss??? </p>
<p>Come on! I understand if it were illigal well planed out drag and burnout competitions on the street and they keep doing it after they have already been in troble for it, but taking off too hard and you&#8217;re faced with all that has gone too far.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 11:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Reckless1 - $3300 fine, 9 months jail, 12 months license loss just for doing a burnout? I mean seriously its just a simple act of spinning a rubber tyre!

These laws are ridiculous and the penalties are completely out of whack with the offences. The state government should wake up to itself and spend more resources putting facilities in place to promote such activities in a controlled environment.

Seems the goverment thinks speeding, running redlights and drink driving are less serious offences. A quick check of the RTA website reveals that doing more than 45km/h over the speed limit in a school zone attracts a smaller penalty than the proposed new hoon laws. Make any sense in that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Reckless1 &#8211; $3300 fine, 9 months jail, 12 months license loss just for doing a burnout? I mean seriously its just a simple act of spinning a rubber tyre!</p>
<p>These laws are ridiculous and the penalties are completely out of whack with the offences. The state government should wake up to itself and spend more resources putting facilities in place to promote such activities in a controlled environment.</p>
<p>Seems the goverment thinks speeding, running redlights and drink driving are less serious offences. A quick check of the RTA website reveals that doing more than 45km/h over the speed limit in a school zone attracts a smaller penalty than the proposed new hoon laws. Make any sense in that?</p>
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		<title>By: Gibbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gibbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 11:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the article. If the government wants to get &quot;hoons&quot; off the road then build us a burnout/race track that is cheap to use and easilly accessible to all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the article. If the government wants to get &#8220;hoons&#8221; off the road then build us a burnout/race track that is cheap to use and easilly accessible to all.</p>
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