Comments on: New Mazda6 MPS in doubt? http://www.caradvice.com.au/8373/new-mazda6-mps-in-doubt/ Resource for Car Reviews, News, Advice, Road Tests, Green Cars, Hybrids Sat, 11 Feb 2012 09:17:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Ursh 29 http://www.caradvice.com.au/8373/new-mazda6-mps-in-doubt/#comment-239122 Ursh 29 Thu, 02 Dec 2010 07:14:21 +0000 http://www.caradvice.com.au/8373/new-mazda6-mps-in-doubt/#comment-239122 Mazda MPS, SECOND TOIME REPLACING MY CLLUTCH, FIRST AT 12000 NOW AT 70 000. if I did not know better I would have question my driving skills.. Seems that Mazda 6 MPS clutch is overall problematic. Any advice how to preserve my clutch or maybe I hould think of seeling the car Mazda MPS, SECOND TOIME REPLACING MY CLLUTCH, FIRST AT 12000 NOW AT 70 000. if I did not know better I would have question my driving skills.. Seems that Mazda 6 MPS clutch is overall problematic. Any advice how to preserve my clutch or maybe I hould think of seeling the car

]]> By: Sambo http://www.caradvice.com.au/8373/new-mazda6-mps-in-doubt/#comment-115806 Sambo Sat, 14 Feb 2009 00:54:44 +0000 http://www.caradvice.com.au/8373/new-mazda6-mps-in-doubt/#comment-115806 Having travel nearly 200000km in my 06 mazda 6 mps, this car has some good n bad points. Firstly the part time AWD system is an absolute piece of shit, it should have been a constant awd or a rear wheel drive. Having done mainly hyway kms the car runs in front wheel drive only. this causes the rear wheels to drive the diff and drive shaft back to the gearbox, applying load to the wrong side of the diff gears, which im my case has resulted in 3 failed diffs, on no 4 at the moment. The clutch problem which we all experience is actually more related to the throttle, drive by wire works fine for autos, but not so well for manuals as you lose all feeling of whats going on. Ive had mine replaced with a cable and throttle body and it made it so much more drivable. I found the clutch/clutch pedal upgrade from mazda made no difference. The suspension could be slightly firmer, bit floaty when bouncing of the speed limiter at 250kmph. Other wise i reckon its a great car, its not a cop magnet , not like the evo or wrx and still is a good performer Having travel nearly 200000km in my 06 mazda 6 mps, this car has some good n bad points. Firstly the part time AWD system is an absolute piece of shit, it should have been a constant awd or a rear wheel drive. Having done mainly hyway kms the car runs in front wheel drive only. this causes the rear wheels to drive the diff and drive shaft back to the gearbox, applying load to the wrong side of the diff gears, which im my case has resulted in 3 failed diffs, on no 4 at the moment. The clutch problem which we all experience is actually more related to the throttle, drive by wire works fine for autos, but not so well for manuals as you lose all feeling of whats going on. Ive had mine replaced with a cable and throttle body and it made it so much more drivable. I found the clutch/clutch pedal upgrade from mazda made no difference. The suspension could be slightly firmer, bit floaty when bouncing of the speed limiter at 250kmph. Other wise i reckon its a great car, its not a cop magnet , not like the evo or wrx and still is a good performer

]]> By: Ursh http://www.caradvice.com.au/8373/new-mazda6-mps-in-doubt/#comment-101083 Ursh Wed, 05 Nov 2008 10:13:02 +0000 http://www.caradvice.com.au/8373/new-mazda6-mps-in-doubt/#comment-101083 I am not sure which one takes preference; Being disgusted with the Mazda 6 MPS clutch prob after 12 000 km or the principal dealer neagting liability and inferring I drive like a maniac. To you guys that are Mazda MPS fanatics, after all this thrash, I dislike any Mazda.... U I am not sure which one takes preference; Being disgusted with the Mazda 6 MPS clutch prob after 12 000 km or the principal dealer neagting liability and inferring I drive like a maniac.
To you guys that are Mazda MPS fanatics, after all this thrash, I dislike any Mazda….

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]]> By: Latool http://www.caradvice.com.au/8373/new-mazda6-mps-in-doubt/#comment-91311 Latool Tue, 02 Sep 2008 02:36:47 +0000 http://www.caradvice.com.au/8373/new-mazda6-mps-in-doubt/#comment-91311 I have only recently stumbled across this car and am completely blown away. I LOVE IT. Our family has both the Mazda SP23 and the RX8. I took this car for a test drive yesterday and am completely sold. As i am rather disappointed with the new 6 range i love the old look more. I am working on trying to purchase, as the dealership has 1 and only 1 left. Should be able to snag it at a good price to due to its un-popular time. In comparison to whats out there for the price this car is fantastic. It would compete well with the $56k TRD Aurion and is $15k less. I love the shape of the bonnet and the room the car has. I find Mazda have always been better than every one else when it comes to the little things. Such as comfort accessories like reading lamps positions of cup holders and even the shape of things inside the car. Mazda offers a different level of class you can't find at a Ford or Holden dealership. Honestly can't wait to own this car and i am upset they canned it. But supply in demand i guess. I have only recently stumbled across this car and am completely blown away. I LOVE IT. Our family has both the Mazda SP23 and the RX8. I took this car for a test drive yesterday and am completely sold. As i am rather disappointed with the new 6 range i love the old look more. I am working on trying to purchase, as the dealership has 1 and only 1 left. Should be able to snag it at a good price to due to its un-popular time. In comparison to whats out there for the price this car is fantastic. It would compete well with the $56k TRD Aurion and is $15k less. I love the shape of the bonnet and the room the car has. I find Mazda have always been better than every one else when it comes to the little things. Such as comfort accessories like reading lamps positions of cup holders and even the shape of things inside the car. Mazda offers a different level of class you can’t find at a Ford or Holden dealership. Honestly can’t wait to own this car and i am upset they canned it. But supply in demand i guess.

]]> By: ola kala http://www.caradvice.com.au/8373/new-mazda6-mps-in-doubt/#comment-75012 ola kala Sun, 25 May 2008 23:28:04 +0000 http://www.caradvice.com.au/8373/new-mazda6-mps-in-doubt/#comment-75012 The understated muscle and clean lines of my 07 6MPS are commented on all the time, classy. No ugly look at my butt in the air spoilers and it doesn't sound like it has holes in the exhaust. Before you jump to conclusions, I have a custom exhaust that while definitely not loud gives a hint of the power available. As for not being garish or standing out in the crowd I agree with Daniel Dacy, I like the sleeper philosophy, I am confidant in the power of my car and don't need to be in your face with it. Don't get me wrong my husband and I like our toys we have a horse for nearly every course, a Harley softail custom 99, a Kawasaki ZX14 07(still the fastest production bike on the road,he he) a CORVETTE 89, his SS commodore 93, and my 6MPS 07. We know what we like to drive and the MPS is a winner. The understated muscle and clean lines of my 07 6MPS are commented on all the time, classy. No ugly look at my butt in the air spoilers and it doesn’t sound like it has holes in the exhaust.

Before you jump to conclusions, I have a custom exhaust that while definitely not loud gives a hint of the power available. As for not being garish or standing out in the crowd I agree with Daniel Dacy, I like the sleeper philosophy, I am confidant in the power of my car and don’t need to be in your face with it.

Don’t get me wrong my husband and I like our toys we have a horse for nearly every course, a Harley softail custom 99, a Kawasaki ZX14 07(still the fastest production bike on the road,he he) a CORVETTE 89, his SS commodore 93, and my 6MPS 07. We know what we like to drive and the MPS is a winner.

]]> By: David Mc Bratney http://www.caradvice.com.au/8373/new-mazda6-mps-in-doubt/#comment-70762 David Mc Bratney Sat, 03 May 2008 22:11:25 +0000 http://www.caradvice.com.au/8373/new-mazda6-mps-in-doubt/#comment-70762 Chris I bought a Mazda 6 MPS in Noveber 07, have done 25K since and have driven the 3 version as well. There is little comparison because the 3, whilst having the more sporty feel at speed and acceleration, is short on the easy confidence that the 6 takes for granted at real acceleration and in high speed conering. It's like chalk and cheese, you get what you pay for and I'm sorry to hear that Mazda don't have the 'cahones' to continue the 6's development, perhaps it's their own marketing in the new 'green' world? Chris
I bought a Mazda 6 MPS in Noveber 07, have done 25K since and have driven the 3 version as well.

There is little comparison because the 3, whilst having the more sporty feel at speed and acceleration, is short on the easy confidence that the 6 takes for granted at real acceleration and in high speed conering.

It’s like chalk and cheese, you get what you pay for and I’m sorry to hear that Mazda don’t have the ‘cahones’ to continue the 6′s development, perhaps it’s their own marketing in the new ‘green’ world?

]]> By: Devil's Advocate http://www.caradvice.com.au/8373/new-mazda6-mps-in-doubt/#comment-42340 Devil's Advocate Sun, 16 Dec 2007 23:00:32 +0000 http://www.caradvice.com.au/8373/new-mazda6-mps-in-doubt/#comment-42340 I forgot to mention, wrt VXR vs MPS about being able to handle the torque steer much better. Watch the Top Gear episode with Jeremy and the VXR when he plants it with his hands off the wheel. The wheel turns a ridiculous amount to the left. Now go on youtube and there is a vid of a local doing the same in a 3MPS, the wheel hardly moves at all in the first 3 gears. Pretty much every review you read on the net/in mags bags the VXR for having ridiculous amounts of torque steer and WAY more than a 3MPS. You would be one of the first people I have seen that says the opposite. I am beginning to think that you are wee bit upset that it is faster than your beloved Subaru out of the box in the majority of situations. If that is the way you feel, I am sorry and hope the status quo returns soon! Horses for courses I guess. :-) I forgot to mention, wrt VXR vs MPS about being able to handle the torque steer much better. Watch the Top Gear episode with Jeremy and the VXR when he plants it with his hands off the wheel. The wheel turns a ridiculous amount to the left. Now go on youtube and there is a vid of a local doing the same in a 3MPS, the wheel hardly moves at all in the first 3 gears. Pretty much every review you read on the net/in mags bags the VXR for having ridiculous amounts of torque steer and WAY more than a 3MPS. You would be one of the first people I have seen that says the opposite.

I am beginning to think that you are wee bit upset that it is faster than your beloved Subaru out of the box in the majority of situations. If that is the way you feel, I am sorry and hope the status quo returns soon! Horses for courses I guess. :-)

]]> By: Devil's Advocate http://www.caradvice.com.au/8373/new-mazda6-mps-in-doubt/#comment-42338 Devil's Advocate Sun, 16 Dec 2007 22:52:05 +0000 http://www.caradvice.com.au/8373/new-mazda6-mps-in-doubt/#comment-42338 Well Chris Parr, working for a Subaru dealer says it all. Obviously the Subaru blinkers are on firmly (nothing wrong with loving your fav brand, but don't let it cloud your judgment so much that you can't give credit where it is due). I would hazard a guess that the reason you experienced so much understeer in the 3 MPS is because you were driving it like an AWD Subaru. I would bet you that if you drove a WRX like a RWD it would show just as much, if not more chronic understeer. It is HOW you drive it as a Hi-po FWD needs a slightly different style to an AWD just like you can't drive an AWD like a RWD etc. I have owned all 3 of these configurations in a high performance car and if driven like it should be, the 3 is one of the fastest cars I have driven point to point. As for the most dangerous car you have driven, obviously you haven't driven cars like a Mazda MX-6 turbo, Cortina 6 cyl, insert pretty much all FWD turbos, RWD solid rear axle hi-po car from the 80s etc etc. Also Scott, yes, the Liberty has a much better chassis than the 6 with the full time symetrical all-wheel-drive etc, but I would say that, while it may not sound as nice with a modded exhaust, the 2.3 DISI in the 6 is a better engine with more accessible torque more of the time than the 2.5 boxer. IMHO it is a more drivable engine in real world conditions. Why else would it have made it to Ward's top 10 engines in the world every year since it has been released? At the grand daddy of all race tracks, the Nurburgring, a stock 3 MPS cut a lap time of 8min 39sec with a driver who had only ever driven the track that day. To put that in perspective it was only 1 second slower than the lap record for a stock Porsche 996 Carerra S and 13 seconds faster than a stock MkIV Golf R32. We all know that this track has a bit every kind of 'my favorite road' in it. You don't have to love it, just respect it for what it is as I know a lot of people who love the way it give you a huge grin on your face when you get it right! Take care mate :-) Well Chris Parr, working for a Subaru dealer says it all. Obviously the Subaru blinkers are on firmly (nothing wrong with loving your fav brand, but don’t let it cloud your judgment so much that you can’t give credit where it is due). I would hazard a guess that the reason you experienced so much understeer in the 3 MPS is because you were driving it like an AWD Subaru. I would bet you that if you drove a WRX like a RWD it would show just as much, if not more chronic understeer. It is HOW you drive it as a Hi-po FWD needs a slightly different style to an AWD just like you can’t drive an AWD like a RWD etc. I have owned all 3 of these configurations in a high performance car and if driven like it should be, the 3 is one of the fastest cars I have driven point to point. As for the most dangerous car you have driven, obviously you haven’t driven cars like a Mazda MX-6 turbo, Cortina 6 cyl, insert pretty much all FWD turbos, RWD solid rear axle hi-po car from the 80s etc etc. Also Scott, yes, the Liberty has a much better chassis than the 6 with the full time symetrical all-wheel-drive etc, but I would say that, while it may not sound as nice with a modded exhaust, the 2.3 DISI in the 6 is a better engine with more accessible torque more of the time than the 2.5 boxer. IMHO it is a more drivable engine in real world conditions. Why else would it have made it to Ward’s top 10 engines in the world every year since it has been released?

At the grand daddy of all race tracks, the Nurburgring, a stock 3 MPS cut a lap time of 8min 39sec with a driver who had only ever driven the track that day. To put that in perspective it was only 1 second slower than the lap record for a stock Porsche 996 Carerra S and 13 seconds faster than a stock MkIV Golf R32. We all know that this track has a bit every kind of ‘my favorite road’ in it. You don’t have to love it, just respect it for what it is as I know a lot of people who love the way it give you a huge grin on your face when you get it right! Take care mate :-)

]]> By: Chris Parr http://www.caradvice.com.au/8373/new-mazda6-mps-in-doubt/#comment-39604 Chris Parr Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:11:04 +0000 http://www.caradvice.com.au/8373/new-mazda6-mps-in-doubt/#comment-39604 yeah the problem with type R civic is weight unfortunately!! it is a great engine with a good gearbox and chassis but the car is just to heavy for the torque available out of that engine...I actually quite like the hsv vxr to drive it seems to handle the power/torque a lot better on the road than MPS even although not quite as quick in straght line, i find it a better all round package on the road.. yeah the problem with type R civic is weight unfortunately!! it is a great engine with a good gearbox and chassis but the car is just to heavy for the torque available out of that engine…I actually quite like the hsv vxr to drive it seems to handle the power/torque a lot better on the road than MPS even although not quite as quick in straght line, i find it a better all round package on the road..

]]> By: Nick http://www.caradvice.com.au/8373/new-mazda6-mps-in-doubt/#comment-39564 Nick Fri, 30 Nov 2007 12:26:27 +0000 http://www.caradvice.com.au/8373/new-mazda6-mps-in-doubt/#comment-39564 Momo, the MPS 3 does not need modification to get it to handle. If you do track work, with the stock tyres, its best to run around 40-42PSI. This car will pull a higher lateral G than a WRX anyday. There are countless comparissons on youtube that demonstrate this. If you jump on the picks, tip the nose in, the rear end will actually come around, and if your not used to this car, most people are always in a gear lower than what they should be driving out of a corner. This is where weekend warriors like Chris Parr, AKA Cody Crocker experience torque steer. The challenge still stands, oran park or wakefield park. Also, just browsing through the UK car Magazine EVO. Their test track is Bedford, and here are a few times that might raise some eyebrows. MPS3 1:30.35, WRX 1:31.19, Astra VXR 1:33.55, BMW 130i Sports 1:31.7, VW Golf R32 1:32.55, Golf GTi V 1:33.75, FOCUS ST (XR5) 2:33.9, HONDA CIVIC TYPE R 1:41.45. Scary to think that this is caradvice's prefered "hot hatch". Momo, the MPS 3 does not need modification to get it to handle. If you do track work, with the stock tyres, its best to run around 40-42PSI. This car will pull a higher lateral G than a WRX anyday. There are countless comparissons on youtube that demonstrate this. If you jump on the picks, tip the nose in, the rear end will actually come around, and if your not used to this car, most people are always in a gear lower than what they should be driving out of a corner. This is where weekend warriors like Chris Parr, AKA Cody Crocker experience torque steer. The challenge still stands, oran park or wakefield park. Also, just browsing through the UK car Magazine EVO. Their test track is Bedford, and here are a few times that might raise some eyebrows. MPS3 1:30.35, WRX 1:31.19, Astra VXR 1:33.55, BMW 130i Sports 1:31.7, VW Golf R32 1:32.55, Golf GTi V 1:33.75, FOCUS ST (XR5) 2:33.9, HONDA CIVIC TYPE R 1:41.45. Scary to think that this is caradvice’s prefered “hot hatch”.

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