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2007 Toyota LandCruiser 76 Series GXL Wagon review

By Anthony Crawford |

2007 LandCruiser 70 Series GXL Wagon – review

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“They don’t come any tougher than a Toyota LandCruiser 70 Series. You could drop it off a building or leave it in Baghdad for a year, and it would still go”

Test Model: LC76 4 Door 5 seat GXL wagon with a five-speed manual transmission and 4.5-litre turbocharged V8 diesel.

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Recommended Retail Price:
$57,490

Options Fitted:

• Air Conditioning – $2640 (a necessity, but not what I would call a bargain and probably should be standard in the GXL)
• Diff Locks – $2735 (again, a must if you are using the vehicle in tough country but seems like an expensive option)

Price as Tested: $62,865

Where it sits: With kit such as floor carpet, remote central locking, power windows and power antenna, the GXL wagon is the Rolls-Royce of the series, but surprisingly, not the most expensive model. The famed Troop Carrier tops out the range.

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The 70 Series range has been expanded to eight models, with three body styles. It’s a little confusing but here’s a simple model-by-model breakdown of the Series variants.

• Cab Chassis (LC79) 2-seat – Workmate ($53,490) GX ($55,490) GXL ($56,490)
• Wagon (LC76) 5-seat –Workmate ($53,990) GXL ($57,490)
• Troop Carrier (LC78) – Workmate (three-seat $58,890) Workmate (11-seat $59,990) GXL ($61,490)

You don’t mess with a LandCruiser 70 Series. When it comes to hard core mechanical workhorses, this is one of the heavyweight contenders.

Talk about staying the course. From the moment the US government asked Toyota to build one-hundred Willys-spec vehicles, in the form of the Jeep BJ in 1950, Toyota has been in the off road business.

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Back then there were few competitors, but none more able than Land Rover. They had the civilian off road market cornered, despite their dodgy reliability.

Hanji Umehara, the technical director at Toyota, liked the name Land Rover too (who wouldn’t). He was desperate for a brand name, which sounded no less capable than the British marque. He came up with “Land Cruiser” and the rest as they say, is history.

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Oddly enough though, for someone so concerned with getting the off-road image right and holding Jeep and land Rover in such high regard, it comes as a surprise, that both the Jeep BJ and the second generation 20 Series were without low-range!

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Australia’s affection with LandCruiser was forged in the brutal battle lines around mining sites and the enormous Snowy River project, where the first batch of 3.9-litre six-cylinder petrol 20 Series were delivered in 1959. But still, no low range!

Toyota finally got the message in 1960, when the 40 Series hit town with a larger 3.9-litre engine and low range was introduced as a LandCruiser staple.

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Basic creature comforts such as air conditioning and a rear heater were introduced into the fifth generation LandCruiser known as the FJ60 Series. These were still very agricultural vehicles although, no different to what you would find in a Land Rover at the time.

In 1981 things were going very well for Toyota and LandCruiser sales topped the one million mark.

The 70 Series was introduced in 1984, with a range that included a soft-top, hardtop, utility, cab chassis and the famed troop carrier, which was probably adopted from the original US army Jeep, which had inward facing rear seats.

This latest 76 Series may have electric windows and air conditioning but believe me, it is still a hard core workhorse for the farm or better still, construction.

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LandCruiser die-hards will applaud the carry over metal glove box, plastic vent on the rear guard and the overly simple chrome door openers. It sure doesn’t say much for twenty-first century evolution!

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Die-hards are right. I took the 76 down to my local shopping mall on Sydney’s Northern Beaches for a quick Bunnings expedition and on my return to vehicle, found a bloke and his wife having a good old sticky beak. Of course, I asked the chap if he was right? “Is this the new one mate” “Yes mate, the new 76 Series wagon” which to be perfectly honest, apart from the extra doors, looked identical to the couple’s older, two door Troop Carrier, at least from the outside!

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He was such a passionate LandCruiser owner that I felt obligated to offer the guy a ride in the “newie’. He nearly fell over with excitement, with a grin from ear to ear. Of course, I offered his partner the same courtesy, but she seemed happy to let it be a bloke-only experience.

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When I told him that under the bonnet was a spanking new 4.5 litre V8 turbo-diesel, it was as though Christmas had come early. The guy was in heaven. If I was I rich man, I would have handed the keys and registration papers over to him in flash, just to see the look on his face!

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These are the kind of folks who built the LandCruiser legend in this country and Toyota have got a lot to thank them for.

It’s by no means a quiet engine but it sure does pull. The Euro IV-compliant donk is a sophisticated unit. The 32-valve V8 puts out a not too shabby 151kW at 3400rpm and peak torque of 430Nm at 1200rpm. Pulling and climbing are what this vehicle does best!

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First gear is incredibly short, so you may find it easier to move off the line in second, where there is ample torque to do so. Sheer habit prevented me from doing so as often as I would have liked, but it was definitely the way to go, if on level terrain.

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The 76 Series might operate in a predominately man’s world, but don’t think for one moment that this 4X4 is hard to drive. It’s not. You can move through the five speed manual gearbox as easy as you can in a Corolla – well, almost.

My point is, if your wife or partner wants to drive this glammed up workhorse, give her the keys! (I don’t mean to be chauvinistic – really!)

And that’s the real advantage of this five-seat wagon body. One day you’re out in the sticks or down in an open cut mine, the next day you’re heading into town in your best threads for a royal feed at the local Chinese.

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I can’t get over how high you sit in this thing – I found myself window-to-window, with truckies in their 10-tonne plus rigs.

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Come to think of it, the 76 Series sounds like a 10-tonne rig. At least at idle. Once you’re on the move though, engine noise in the cabin is more than acceptable for this category.

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It’s not exactly slow either. I can’t find any 0-100km/h times in the press kit, but the 76 Series is more than capable of keeping up with city drivers in a hurry.

And don’t worry about the fact that you can only get a V8 engine in the 76 Series. While power and torque might be up against the old straight six, fuel consumption has gone down, at least marginally, to 11.9 litres/100km (combined).

Steering is hydraulic power assisted and for a large vehicle I found the turning circle at 12.6m more than manageable in suburbia. Reverse parallel parking was also nothing to fret about.

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General braking technology has come along way in the last ten years or so, and this 4 X 4 has not been forgotten. Try large ventilated discs front and rear, with twin pot and single pot calipers respectively. This wagon can stop as well as most modern sedans.

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Of course, this being the luxury wagon version of the Land Cruiser workhorse family, you’re more likely to see these performing city-based duties than any of the previous models. Watch out for some underground car parks though. This thing won’t fit under all of them!

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I can’t tell you why, but I like the metal glove box. It has that “this will never break” feel about it. Let’s hope Toyota never resorts to plastic. The die-hards won’t buy it for that reason alone.

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Believe it not (I’m speaking to those under 40 years) a manually operated electric aerial used to be a luxury item. Of course with a go anywhere vehicle like a 70 Series, it’s mandatory to be able to control this function from inside the cabin, unless you want to replace it at $200 a pop, every time you go bush.

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Another unique feature is the idle up switch for those icy cold mornings when the battery may be struggling.

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The standard fit 4 speaker audio unit sounds decent enough and although only a single disc player, it is MP3 compatible.

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Unlike the Cab Chassis and Troop Carrier versions, which come with hard wearing vinyl seat trim, the GXL wagon will have you backside perched on some salubrious and surprisingly comfortable, cloth fabric – just don’t go near a coal mine and climb back in!

It’s tall yes, but there’s a grab handle for each door, along with decent width aluminium side steps, to make entry and exit not so difficult.

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Storage inside the cabin area isn’t bad either, with side door pockets and a centre console bin. Even with the rear bench seat up, there’s a tonne of load space in the boot area and even more with the seat folded forward. It just doesn’t fold flat which is a bit of nuisance.

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For a heavy-duty four-wheeler weighing in at 2335kg (kerb weight) braked towing capacity at 3500kg is identical to Land Rover’s Discovery and Range Rover.

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With its hard-core workhorse reputation, I wasn’t expecting much in the way of ride quality. The word harsh, would have best described my expectations, given the rigid live axle set up, front and rear.

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Wrong. Potholes and speed bumps barely registered, and the off-road track we chose in Duffys Forrest in Sydney’s north, grossly under challenged the 76 Series, with creek crossings and rock infested tracks, presenting nothing more than a kiddies playpen for this vehicle.

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The driveline across the 70 Series range is a part time 4WD system with dual range transmission and manually adjustable freewheeling front hubs. A limited-slip differential is standard fitment except, if you opt for the front and rear diff locks, in which case, you won’t need it.

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Ground clearance for the wagon is 215mm (visually it looks much higher) and while this is not class leading (Land Rover Defender 314mm) but its on par with the Hummer H3 (216mm) and marginally better than the Jeep Compass (213mm).

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With a roofline hitting 1940mm, I was prepared for some serious body roll into corners, at least on the bitumen.

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Wrong again. While there is some weight transfer lean on turn in, it was far less than expected for a vehicle with these dimensions.

The LandCruiser 70 Series has been dragged, kicking and screaming into the twenty-first century and has fought well to retain its ‘hard as nails’ DNA.

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The GXL Wagon will outsell its competition on the basis of one thing and one thing only. Toyota reliability!

By: Anthony Crawford


 
  • Richo

    i dont know what it is about em, they’re rough as guts, but something about em just makes em cool!

  • http://www.caradvice.com.au tony

    I’d prefer a Land Rover Defender but I’d buy this Land Criuser!

  • 280zx

    Looks like a microwave on wheels!

  • SPEED FREAK

    DONT LIKE IT, LOOKS OLD, BOXY AND HEAVY. ALSO THE STYLING LOOKS LIKE IT BELONGS ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO…ATLEAST THEY GOT IT RIGHT WITH THE KLUGER…

  • http://www.caradvice.com.au tony

    Yeh, but its a hard core Land Cruiser – who cares what it looks like. It’s the off road king!

  • Casey

    Good to see this review hot on the heels of the LR guys – well done!

    Think I’d still take the LR if it was a choice between the two though.

  • Me.

    Strange, a 4-Door Troop carrier. Just like the new Jeep.

  • Frugal One

    Front and read diff-locks [they are priced right BTW] and factory snorkel this will destroy a Defender.

    Not only that on the wat there, the V8 Turbo can pull out and overtake [broken down?Ed.] the Defender WHILE TOWING A TRAILER UP HILL.

    Is it any wonder its the most wanted HD 4×4 on the planet?[Patrol close 2nd]

    Cheers

    F-0

    *VOTE-NOW!*

  • Frugal One

    Good report Andrew!

    I believe this comment [well proven] sums it up 100%:

    “The GXL Wagon will outsell its competition on the basis of one thing and one thing only.**Toyota reliability!**

    Yeap, 400 dealers Aussie wide, parts warehouses in each state/territoy, Defender is bombed against that!

    Finally, the ONLY other vehicle that has similar off road ability is the Jeep Wrangler Rubicon edition…BUT no diesel on that model….why?

    Cheers

    F-0

  • Reckless1

    Love the comment that the early models didn’t have Low Range – having driven some of the early examples plus early L/R and Jeep, it would be truer to say they had no High Range :)

    The output of this V8 engine is truly pathetic – only 430Nm of torque. This figure is achieved by much smaller engines from other manufacturers. Basically it means it has 4 lazy pistons……which the other 4 have to drive, increasing fuel consumption.

    and no AIRBAGS or ABS SHAME SHAME SHAME Toyota.

  • azza85

    I know it’s a work horse and belongs out in the sticks by the styling is absolutely horrendous. You’ve got the slightly curvy front end with a very geometric/straight edges, retro looking back end and side panels, it just doesn’t go together. You have it either all curvy or all boxy, not half and half!

  • Casey

    I kinda agree Azza. I also think work horses like this should have more readily interchangable parts, such as round headlights which can be purchased CHEAPLY anywhere to avoid buying expensive factory parts.

  • Iamthestig

    Not even a single airbag ? – Welcome back to 1980…

    Yes, it is tough but only people who are going to use them in the rough environments should be allowed to buy them.

    Anyone who buys one to transport their family around the town/city should be classified as a child abuser. There are much safer vehicles that they should have bought instead.

    • OMG!!

      I lay a challange. You have the choice of two vehicles to put your 18yo daughter in behind the wheel of and then get her to drive head on into a telegraph pole at 60k’s an hour. A large 4wd or a small butter box style car. I’m a police officer that attends accidents. I know what I’d be choosing. Your not educated in this area to make comment. Sorry. :-)

  • Reckless1

    Iamthestig, your sentiments are correct. But I would classify any adult as a child with a few years under its belt, so transporting anyone in these things is child abuse.

    Your bad, Toyota (and LR for the Defender)

  • Brain_Abusers

    Yeah lets demonise Toyota… this is a purpose built offroad vehicle, it isnt designed for families nor would anyone in their right mind buy it for this purpose. Whats next we attack Hummers because in the military they dont have airbags…

  • Richo

    Iamthestig – i have never EVER seen someone using a 70 series cruiser as an oversized pram like you see with the regular landcruiser or prado. I think your comments might be a bit mis-guided, you dont need to regulate that only people who will use em for their intended purpose should buy them because those are the only people who buy them anyway!

  • Richo

    and frankly i think its a bit tough to put landcruiser 70 and land rover defender owners into the same class of people as those who beat, starve and rape little kids, your drawing a pretty long and unfair bow, think about your comments a bit more before you make them i think!

  • Gibbo

    Yes the new Land Cruiser 70 series leaves the Defender for dead!!!! It is true 4WD with out all the un necessary bits and pieces that all the soccer mums have on their “city” 4WDs. It would be cool if we could get the twin turbo system off the 200 series and bolt it on to the 70 series….it would then be an insane 4WD

  • Me.

    Iamthestig, great point in your comment!!! Hope people in city areas don’t buy them just because they think they’re “safe” in them. Not to mention theres no side airbags.

    • OMG!!

      I lay a challange. You have the choice of two vehicles to put your 18yo daughter in behind the wheel of and then get her to drive head on into a telegraph pole at 60k’s an hour. A large 4wd or a small butter box style car. I’m a police officer that attends accidents. I know what I’d be choosing. Your not educated in this area to make comment. Sorry. :-)

  • Me.

    But I’m not dissing Toyota, because…Let me say, I don’t want to bring back Toyota Paul saying “they more reliable”.

  • Bavarian Missile

    But isn’t it classed as a commercial vehicle? Do Commercial Vehicles normally have Airbags?

    Do the mine sites require airbags……..cause those guys are ultra safety conscious! Perhaps I should ask Cobra045 as would know!!!!!!!!

  • Iamthestig

    \”Richo Says:
    November 23rd, 2007 at 2:47 pm

    Iamthestig – i have never EVER seen someone using a 70 series cruiser as an oversized pram like you see with the regular landcruiser or prado.\”

    Well, sorry, I have seen exactly this more than once and even been to a BBQ listening to a dimwit (hence my comment) saying how he bought one for his wife (and kids) to drive around in because they are \”safer\” (!) than getting a Prado…

    In another breath, (more directed to the men listening!) he then said he got one instead of a Prado because of the motor (to which there was much nodding of heads while I simply rolled back my eyes and thought what a tosser I was listening to…)

    • matt

      lol, holidaying in the country lam??

  • Me.

    The cab chasses, (which are the same front end as this) would be classed as commercial vehicle. But this is an SUV, but wonder if thats classed as a car or a truck?

  • Richo

    Iamthestig – your aware that kids under the age of 10 shouldn’t be sitting in the front seat anyway, so assuming the kids are sitting in the back seat anyway, what difference does it make? their isn’t usually frontal impact airbags for rear seat occupants!

    and as someone else said, the 70 series is classed as a comercial vehicle, not a passenger car

  • Bavarian Missile

    Na……..I think troopys are classed as commercial so this must be the same series.

    Hey isn’t that why in the USA F TRUCKS are classed as trucks not pickups so no safety standards have to be met?

  • Me.

    Depends if they F-150s or F-250s.

  • Bavarian Missile

    Does it? How ? I saw something on Top Gear when they where test driving some big SUV {Chev I think} and Clarkson mentioned that the American class their pickups as Trucks !

  • Richo

    they popularly refer to them as “trucks” as in “mate check out my new truck!” but they are still classified as pick-ups.

    And yes the 70 series wagon is classed in the same class as the troopcarrier, ie commercial vehicle

  • Me.

    “pick-up” is an American slang for Trucks such as Dodge Ram, Toyota Tundra, Chev Silverardo, Ford F150 – Super duty(250,250). But “UTE” is a name for Ford Falcons, ’34 302(First Ute) and Holden utes.

  • westaussie

    Well as an owner of one of these vehicles I find the wagon very capable however my only criticism would be the center floor console or lack of storage area. The carpet is of a very poor quality as well having done one trip down south
    with children in the rear and it rubbed though to underside in several spots!!
    As a drive vehicle in the city it gives very good vision however 2nd gear take off is a good option.As a country boy they give very good manageability and decline control plus reasonable fuel economy and plenty of low down torque where its needed. I pull a 3.5 tonne trailer with ease and fuel is not allot different when towing so all in all I am happy with the new 76 Series.

  • Duck

    It is probaly one of the best 4×4 you can buy for perfomance and reliability off road, but for safety it is terrible no airbags at all and you’d want a few for the money you pay for it. And it’s not like Toyota.

  • Ned

    A 2.7 l landrover diesel has more torque than this

  • Jens

    Great car and I would like one but there is not much of a range to choose from. I like 4 or 6 cylinders and an auto, plus a third row of seats would be nice. The V8 uses too much fuel, something like 11-12L would be better instead of 16l which some of the test runs have returned. I bought an old 91 70 series Prado which is the same as the new one except it is 4 cylinder and auto. Electric everything and A/C, I think I’ll keep it.

  • Blinky Bill – Bellingen

    Gibbo Says at 3:37 pm on 23/11/07.
    ” Yes the new Land Cruiser 70 series leaves the Defender for dead!!!!”

    How do you figure that? Defender has way better ground clearance, constant 4 wheel drive, comes standard with diff lock, delivers with amazing fuel economy and has way better suspension than the Toyota.

    Don’t get me wrong Defenders are a long way from perfect & Land Rover Australia has done a bloody crap job supporting it’s product in my part of rural Australia.

    In fact I’m very interested in the new Toyota as a replacement for my Defender, but so far all I’m hearing is hype. Let’s see how they go over the next 12-24 months when cashed-up city folk take them around Australia.

    Early reports seem to indicate concerns over the placement of key components (starter motor & air intake etc) that may seriously effect the Toyota when it comes to water crossings.

    Chances are Toyota will improve on this come generation 2 but why couldn’t they get it right from the start?

    I’d doubt those fuel consumption figures too. Below 12L per 100kms? Yeah right!

  • Oiler

    I have just been to the local dealer and was told it couldn’t have an air bag because of the rigid frame. Doesn’t make sense to me as I thought they worked off a G switch. Also found the rear wheel track is about 75mm narrower than the front. Done to accomodate the V8. Not a good thing on sand.

  • In Montana

    I would love to have one of them. Many people who farm and off road here in America would love to have the pickup but they won’t sell them to us. Montana is unique in the fact that we can run off road vehicles on our main roads and I could possibly import one and register it as an offroad only vehicle. They would sell like beer over here but our DOT makes it difficult.

    Till then, I will keep dreaming….

  • Leigh Franks

    I still can’t believe Toyota actually launched the 70 series without what is pretty much accepted as standard safety features – I’m talking about airbags. I would buy one of these tomorrow for work, but since my industry requires airbags – it’s no go I’m afraid Toyota. My first vehicle was a Landcruiser and I’ve had 6 (owned) and about 20 for work. What a cock-up! Goodness – professionals will be driving around in Nissans next! I’m REALLY disappointed.

  • philmack

    I have ordered one and arrives early June, My previous vehicle was a 98 model LR Discovery, that has just clocked over 500000 km albeit expensive and alot of time spent on the side of the road waiting for the tilt truck and this was also after serviceing it every four weeks or so, it was well maintained.
    The new 70 series was an easy choice, as I did not want all the bells and wistles that came with the 200 series as well as the price tag,I am in country Queensland where these vehicles will hold their own, and the issue no airbags is simple, drive defensively, be aware of whats around you and drive to conditions and your capablilities. 10 years and 500000 km in the Discovery without any accidents or near misses, just take your foot of the accelerator, unlike 95% of the idiots out there driving their airbag complete sedans, there the problem not the any of the vehicle’s we all drive.

  • http://www.caradvice.com.au Lightbulb

    Philmack,
    Congratulations on buying your new Toyota & I agree with your comments. Personally, I like the new 70 series “Troopy” in sandy color & would buy one tomorrow if I wanted to travel around our countries outback.

    Cheers !

  • AK

    Hello,
    I was wondering if anyone knows if there will be a swb (3 Door) version of this Landcruiser??? I would very mush appreciate any info as I have seen a picture of one tearing up the dunes in the middle east but maybe it was a facelift conversion. Thanks

  • The Texan

    I want one. Damn Toyota wont sell the 70s in the states. my FJ60 is 22 years old and still running strong. The FJ Cruiser is a soccer mom express. Toyota is giving me two choises. Mahindra or Jeep.

  • vinnie

    ah memories…not sure what do u mean by unique feature both my parents’ 70 and 80 series has the idle up switch, one of them has the idle up dial that u can fine tune how much extra revs you want

    the glove box is not break-proof, my parents old 70 series has a dodgy glove box, it wouldnt stay close unless u slam it hard enough. i didn’t like that particular car because it wasnt properly maintained before and after we bought it. but i’ve seen sound examples of the old 70 series. given the chance, i’d take any short wheelbase old or new 70 series!

  • richard

    i have one and the wife and kids go every where in it (she loves it) in the city it easy keeps up. on the beach, up rough rocky pilbara hills, hitting roos… nothing has stopped it … i am up for the challenge. i say you can’t knock it till you tryed it. i have a 170lt tank and i did a combined run (& some circle work in the padock) 13lt/100km. i think every litre is worth the driving pleasure. 100% better than my GXL 100 series… o what a feeling is right with this one… keep it up toyota.

  • Getalife

    my goodness.

    Get a life. Iamthestig, no one cares about your BBQ chatter. If you think the LC76 is a piece of junk then why would you bother commenting. If you were informed in any way whatsoever about 4x4ing you would know that Airbags and abs are not real important. These work horse trucks are built and bought for a purpose. To work. If people are going to buy these things for bumming around woolies and their excelent touch parking properties then that is their decision. Toyota designed this as a useable truck and hav worked to the “if it ain’t broke then don’t fix it” approach.

  • TJM

    Hey all, prtty sure there are a few unfair coments on this car and things such as “Anyone who buys one to transport their family around the town/city should be classified as a child abuser. There are much safer vehicles that they should have bought instead” well air bags or not if you slam into a tree at 100kms 4 instence your ganna get seriously hurt, and a “child abuser” is takeing it a bit to far, if some one buys one 4 family trans port they will know wats best 4 them NOT YOU!!
    thnks

    PS. if you drive as safe a u can than there should be a problem!!

  • ALAA AL HINDI

    IM GIONG TO BUY THAT LAND CRUISER AMAIZING 70 SERIES BUT SO SO AUFULLY THAT ONE WITH DIFLOCK IS NOT AVAILABLE IN THE GULF COUNTRY :( IT CAMES AS FULL OPTIONS SUCH AS POWER STEERING AND POWER WINDOWS POWER MIRRORS BUT NO FU..EN DIFLOCK,CAN SOME ONE INFORM ME WHAT TO DO?

  • james bourn

    DEFENDER IS BETTER THAN A TOYOTA 70 SERIES OFF ROAD FOR A START AND YOU TOYOTA FANS KNOW IT. A DEFENDER USES LESS FULE AND ITS AXLE ARTICULATION IS MUCH BETTER THAN THE TOYOTA. AND THE GROUND CLEARNCE IS BETTER. THE TOYOTA IS IN MY OPINION A GREAT 4X4 AND IS VERY TOUGH AND RELIABLE AND I DO LIKE IT. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO SERIOUS OFF ROADING THE DEFENDER RULES

  • Del

    james bourn sorry,but you are idiot.
    How you can possibly compare lc70 to that english unreliable junk?
    When it comes to offroading, defender will lose in anyway.
    “Def” got bigger clearence? Thats only because its fitted with bigger tires as standard,and that the only reason. And if you dare to put tires bigger-very soon you’ll lose your axles. ;)
    With LC70 on other side you can put wheels as big as you like without compromising on reliability.

  • Blinky Bill from Bellingen

    Well it\’s getting close to 12 months since I first posted about this car and maybe now is a good time to ask if those in possession of one would mind sharing with us.

    1. Is it as good to own as it looks?
    2. Real world fuel economy stats (highway etc)
    3. Service – how often and how much?

    I currently drive a Land Rover Defender BUT……. reliabity…ouch! Despite regular service & a check by my mechanic before a 1 month trip to Victoria, the bugger let me down right on Xmas Day. By the time I was back on the road I\’d lost 25% of my holiday & a wad of money for repairs. So now I\’m thinking Toyota may just be the answer.

    And IF I\’m buying should I go Prado or this Landcruiser with it\’s easier towing capability.

    Any owners or experts willing to offer advice?

  • http://australiancaradvice J.J.T.

    Blinky Bill – a few comments above you questioned wether the 70 Series is better then the Defender but now it seems you know the answer to that yourself.

    As much as i respect Nissan, i believe all things considered including reliability, dependability and durability … Toyota commercials / 4×4′s remain the benchmark and there is no denying that the Hilux, Prado, 70 series and Cruiser Wagon are all extremely good units for thier intended (design) purpose.

    The 70′s series … undeniably the most rugged of them all alwhile the Landcruiser and Prado provide strong off-road credentials but in comfort.

    Wether to go for a Prado or ’70 series … completely up to you in exactly what you want.

    The ’70 series will defantly be more rugged but the Prado will do everthing with absolute competancy but with comfort !!

    You choose what suits your needs better and that is what’s good about Toyota – they offer a variety of commercials / 4×4′s to choose from with different capabilities to suit thier intended purpose.

    Landrovers are strong, but thier reliability is not.

  • Blinky Bill from Bellingen

    J.J.T. – As you rightly say “Landrovers are strong, but thier reliability is not.” and it’s certainly the reliability factor that concerns me most.

    That’s why I’m looking for information from owners of the LC70 to get it from the ‘horses mouth’ so to speak.

    Regards the Prado – the D4D certainly looks the goods and I’ve not discounted it but the LC70 seems to suit my needs better. Not with standing I try to keep my eye on things about Prado too.

  • http://australiancaradvice J.J.T.

    Blinky – outright off-road ability is not the only judgement towards a good 4×4 … reliability, dependability and durability go hand-in-hand to complete an overall package amoung other things.

    Question is … do you want to visit a remote and challenging location in a strong vehicle or do you want to visit the same landscape in a strong and reliable / dependable vehicle.

    Don’t get me wrong, every manufactuer and every model have thier faults but the differance is, some have more then others.

  • kelvin

    hey i like the new 70 series n like other toyotas nothing even comes close it is not a svu it is a commercial h/duty wagon with tares and gross figures no other heavy comercial has air bags ive just traded my 79 t.d cab chassis on it but unlike the so called opposition there is non on the shelf so i gotta weight like all the other tojos you want u order the supply and demand tells the story above no other like to catch all u tojo fans on the trails where others fear to tread

    • Jack

      What, exactly, does all that mean???

  • Mick

    I think I may have found a replacement for my beloved 60 series when the old girl dies, might take another couple of decades though!!!

    • Jack

      Me too.
      I love my HJ60, it took me all over Australia. Fantastic car; here is its natural successor.

  • yoda

    reckless1 can you please show me a car that makes more then 430nu @ 1200rpm’s ???? smaller motor at what crazy rpm make this torque ? and not from a dyno sheet either as the torque get’s mulitplyed on a roller dyno only an engine dyno can show true readings..

    some people, if you dont know what your talking about dont post you unture facts and try and make this car look bad
    haveing 430nu @ 1200rpm is a great feet, and make one good engine for 4×4 use, good torque at high rpm is useless for proper 4×4 use

  • paddymelon

    I reside in small town in fnq, only people that drive these are a few farmers and mostly posers, most of em look that clean n shiny, they’ve probably neva seen a dirt road. Besides, whenever your on the road and you see camo army vehicles drive past what are they driving ? Defenders and Merc Benz trucks, why not cruisers ?? up here if you dont have a landcruiser with a toolbox in the tray or your dogs, you havent made it in rural fnq. What Im sayin is, cruisers are status symbols.

  • Sandgroper

    paddymelon you are 100% right i met plenty of posers in FNQ in fact everywhere i went in QLD.
    I come from the Goldfields in WA and more than anything you want reliabilty in the desert.
    There are more cruisers per head of capita in the golfields region than anywhere else in this country, all of the mining companies here buy and lease them, pretty much says it all.

    I have just put an order in for the new wagon loved the cab chassis had it on fraser island in QLD for a week and loved it.

  • Richo2

    Metal Glove Box – OK
    Small plastic air cleaner off a prado for a V8 – no good at all Toyota. In the 08 bush fires in Victoria, DSE had real issues with constant blocking up of the air cleaner, dust getting past the air cleaner element.
    Also there is a problem with the weight on the front end, apparently the axel is over weight if you mount a bull bar, winch and three blokes in the front seat. Sources say that even with front bucket seats, total passenger weight restriction are 80kg’s each (total of 160 kg’s)
    Real 4X4 well if you have issues with a under rated front axel, cant mount a decent bull bar, winch, driving lights, CB aerials, tow hooks, Gling hot water shower, and go on a diet then at this stage you’ll need to look else where.

  • LandRover_Toyota

    Gday Guys

    i think the best 4×4 to be ever made would be this V8 diesel in a Land Rover Defender. Defender is all around coils ( Real 4×4) this is coil and leaf … even the Defender Ute is all round coils … im a Toyota Fan and Land Rover … if the two came together the outcome would be mind blowing : )

    cheers

    • Jack

      I dunno… I did some truly hellish tracks for work (fun! :) )in the HJ60, all leaves, and unless I am mistaken it made it everywhere, was not bogged and did not bottom out… all on leaves. Spooky.

  • Stevo

    Just wondering if anyone has heard or seen anything about the new dash and airbags going into the 76 series wagon, i have just ordered one and am told that after mine is delivered in Aug the new ones will have these changes

  • Figjam01

    Hi Stevo, i too have just recently ordered a new VDJ79R cab-chassis 79 series and it was ordered on 10 jun only to be told mine will be an august build and sept delivery.How come yours is a august delivery when mine was ordered in june.Where and when did you oreder yours mate.Mine was ordered at torque toyota brendale on brisbanes north.I am yet to have confirmation of the so called new updates to my ordered vehicle.Can anyone add to this info.

    Cheers

  • Stevo

    Hi Mate i Ordered mine start of June and should be in Perth wa on 27 of this month, you might have the upgrades on your model, i only found out my delivery date start of July after alot of phone calls, the dealer has told me he hasnt even seen the pics for the upgraded model yet

  • Steve Clark

    one of the mags had picks this month: 4×4 Aus. I think.

  • Bill Davis

    I’m a grey nomad pulling a 2.4ton caravan and would say my 76 series S/W could not be better other than requirements of a long range tank. Lacking in most modern 4 x 4’s is rear leaf springs to which I have added an extra leaf and reset. Fuel economy exceptional and don’t need to mention the pulling power. I don’t really need four wheel drive, but no car manufacturer produces a designed car for towing unfortunately.

    Last year on the west coast we were hit with 60 to 80 klm head winds to which my previous Prado looked quite ill, not to mention sagging rear coils – not a real tow vehicle. The 76 series could pull the QE2 uphill if required.

    Bill

  • Jacq

    hi Guys & girls

    We have been looking for something to upgrade the ’98 hilux sr5 dual cab too for a while & I must say I think we have finally found it.. & I love our old girl she hasnt missed a beat in 11years so there was a high standard to follow!

    we looked at the showpony that the 200 series is & decided that it is definitely not for us! The 76 series GXL Wagon on the other hand has us so excited that we both had to do the test drive!

    Just chasing how people that are owning & driving this model are finding it now they have had it for a while? we r in far nth east wa & the dealer has told us they will need a few mths to get in the colour we want, so before we do the big jump can you guys shed some feedback?

    Big Thanks to Bill for his post ;)

    Thanks

    Jacq

  • Jacq

    BTW Big thanks to Bill for his post :)

  • Paul

    Can anyone advise – what RPM is the 76 Series GXL doing at 100kph in top gear?

  • http://michaeldeguara@hotmail.com michael

    hi there,
    i just test drive a gxl wagon at 100km it was doin 2450rpm and at 110km it was doin 2650rpm. i think it needs a 6th gear, the other 5 gears are grate and very low go for towing and off road but the 6th gear would be grate on high way
    cheers mick

    • Jack

      Reckon you might be right, Mick

      Interesting: the manual 5speed 1986 HJ60 did about 2050 revs at 100 and 2200 at 110, on a weight of 1900+kg the 2H diesel gave 9.5-10.5L/100km highway, up to 12.5L/100km fully laden into headwinds at worst.

      When working on mines, and hiring 70 Series Utes I was amazed that it was 2500 at 110; when hiring a standard 100 Series wagon for the same purpose I also noted 2500 at 110. They featured lower overall gearing, which added to increasing weight means fuel consumption only goes up.

      Cheers

      Jack

  • rodney

    Well guys. These are great trucks. I have recently been driving one a lot in the middle east. We do oil exploration. In the past 10 years though we have owned around 20 70 series vehicles and around 50 or more Defenders!
    I have personally driven over 1,000,000ks in Defenders in 10 years and have never been let down ever. In fact we have never had a Defender break-down but we have broken many 70 series front ends and always at the worst time possible.
    Although these vehicles are great, if my life depended on a vehicle, myself and all my greasy comrades would only pick a Defender. Discovery, well they are a different story, complete shite! Cheers

  • mitsusubar

    If i was looking for a great offroad vehicle I would never go pass this but for the on road city buisness vehicle I would buy a Landcruiser 70 series I would buy a Land rover discovery 4 for another $20.000 grand or so. But this is just normal.

    All in all very great tough extreme vehicle :>

    • mitsusubar

      oops i mean i would\’nt buy a Land Cruiser 70 series i would buy a land rover discovery 4

  • Dan

    Mate, this Car is the absolute bee’s!!
    could they get it anymore right!! :0
    Anyone that thinks they are old styled etc etc ..WAKE UP!!
    The beauty of it is that its made of steel/screws/welding and..some cloth?
    The 76 will be just one more LANDCRUISER model that will easily and effortlessly see atleast 400,000kms and still be flying through the bush and taking the kids to school on monday morn..

  • jason

    Hi
    i have one of these trucks, have had it now for 1 month purchased new in december 2010, and i can tell you they are the dogs nuts pulls great drives great and goes anywhere. we will see which trucks last longer bet mines still going good with 500,000k’s on the clock in 20 years, all the people that bag these trucks out simply can’t afford one.

  • Bill jelley

    Does any one know where I can buy a lc76 wagon second hand need one for my son he drowned his 80 series call Bill 0431470248

  • Gantogtoh

    i’ll buy bit old land cruiser 76 station wagon.(with right handlebar)