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		<title>By: Duck</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/8205/torana-to-make-a-comeback/#comment-43705</link>
		<dc:creator>Duck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 00:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Wheelnut again for the wonderful news!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Wheelnut again for the wonderful news!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1</p>
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		<title>By: Wheelnut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wheelnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 00:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At this stage it&#039;s very likely we will get both the Torana and the Monaro.
The reason being because Holden are playing a major role in the R&amp;D of both the New Camaro coupe and the New Pontiac G6 mid sized sedan 

The Camaro uses the same platform as the VE Commodore and the G6 uses the same platform as the Torana

Inorder to recover costs more quickly; when these cars go into production.. GM will look for other markets for these RWD cars - including Australia

Now as the name Camaro and G6 don&#039;t have as much history in Oz as Monaro and Torana do..
I suspect that in relation to the Monaro GM will make slight changes to the Camaro so it looks like a 2 door commodore [just as the previous one did]

That&#039;s not to say that we won&#039;t get the Camaro.. The Monaro will be for Holden and Camaro will most likely be exclusive to HSV.. the same way the Mustang will be to FPV

Yet the Torana will probably look very similar to the concept car. I hope the only change they make is to add AWD

As for where they&#039;ll be built.. recent reports suggest that all four will be built in Canada.

Yet as part of GMs plans to streamline its operations and the fact that there is more than enough room to add an extra line of two at Elizabeth there&#039;s a slight possibility the Monaro and Torana could be built here - should Lutzy and Co see it as a viable option.. but we&#039;ll have to wait till after the GM strategy meeting in January</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At this stage it&#8217;s very likely we will get both the Torana and the Monaro.<br />
The reason being because Holden are playing a major role in the R&amp;D of both the New Camaro coupe and the New Pontiac G6 mid sized sedan </p>
<p>The Camaro uses the same platform as the VE Commodore and the G6 uses the same platform as the Torana</p>
<p>Inorder to recover costs more quickly; when these cars go into production.. GM will look for other markets for these RWD cars &#8211; including Australia</p>
<p>Now as the name Camaro and G6 don&#8217;t have as much history in Oz as Monaro and Torana do..<br />
I suspect that in relation to the Monaro GM will make slight changes to the Camaro so it looks like a 2 door commodore [just as the previous one did]</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not to say that we won&#8217;t get the Camaro.. The Monaro will be for Holden and Camaro will most likely be exclusive to HSV.. the same way the Mustang will be to FPV</p>
<p>Yet the Torana will probably look very similar to the concept car. I hope the only change they make is to add AWD</p>
<p>As for where they&#8217;ll be built.. recent reports suggest that all four will be built in Canada.</p>
<p>Yet as part of GMs plans to streamline its operations and the fact that there is more than enough room to add an extra line of two at Elizabeth there&#8217;s a slight possibility the Monaro and Torana could be built here &#8211; should Lutzy and Co see it as a viable option.. but we&#8217;ll have to wait till after the GM strategy meeting in January</p>
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		<title>By: Reflex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reflex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 07:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think holden can afford to build a Commodore Wagon Ute long wheelbase coupe and mid/large car,

I think they got to decide something here, Couple/Monaro Or Mid/large size/Torana. I&#039;d give the Torana the nod now it&#039;s what the market is looking for smaller, And Aussies wont mind a little smaller with similar interior space and performance.

One of our Mag motor/wheels had a picture of a new Torana, It was very Audi TT like, If GM see that they might agree as they don&#039;t have cars to match these rwd mid size cars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think holden can afford to build a Commodore Wagon Ute long wheelbase coupe and mid/large car,</p>
<p>I think they got to decide something here, Couple/Monaro Or Mid/large size/Torana. I&#8217;d give the Torana the nod now it&#8217;s what the market is looking for smaller, And Aussies wont mind a little smaller with similar interior space and performance.</p>
<p>One of our Mag motor/wheels had a picture of a new Torana, It was very Audi TT like, If GM see that they might agree as they don&#8217;t have cars to match these rwd mid size cars.</p>
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		<title>By: Duck</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/8205/torana-to-make-a-comeback/#comment-41018</link>
		<dc:creator>Duck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 10:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Wheelnut!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Wheelnut!</p>
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		<title>By: Wheelnut</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/8205/torana-to-make-a-comeback/#comment-40963</link>
		<dc:creator>Wheelnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 05:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duck - There is to be a GM board meeting early next year where it is expected that the TT-36 Torana is expected to get the go ahead [as it will also be the new Pontiac G6]

As for the VE Monaro - on a recent visit GM Design Chief Mike Simcoe said that work on the next Monaro is well under way [its built on the same platform as the Camaro] So we can expect to see the next generation Holden Coupe within the next 2-4 years - about the same time as the Torana. However; it will probably look slightly different the current VE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duck &#8211; There is to be a GM board meeting early next year where it is expected that the TT-36 Torana is expected to get the go ahead [as it will also be the new Pontiac G6]</p>
<p>As for the VE Monaro &#8211; on a recent visit GM Design Chief Mike Simcoe said that work on the next Monaro is well under way [its built on the same platform as the Camaro] So we can expect to see the next generation Holden Coupe within the next 2-4 years &#8211; about the same time as the Torana. However; it will probably look slightly different the current VE.</p>
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		<title>By: Bavarian Missile</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bavarian Missile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 01:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry the White one was VK and the Director!

Maybe it was the blue velor interior in a black car that also deterred me!

Love that blue in the VK Group A&quot;s !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry the White one was VK and the Director!</p>
<p>Maybe it was the blue velor interior in a black car that also deterred me!</p>
<p>Love that blue in the VK Group A&#8221;s !!</p>
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		<title>By: Tonyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tonyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 01:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hehehe.... i would love a blue VK thats about the only holden i would own!

 was it a VL director?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hehehe&#8230;. i would love a blue VK thats about the only holden i would own!</p>
<p> was it a VL director?</p>
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		<title>By: Bavarian Missile</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bavarian Missile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 00:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep mine is blue too Tonyn with a bit of white for BMW ...I don&#039;t know why at the time we bought the Commodores,I think that maybe what Ford was producing at the time couldn&#039;t match Holdens stuff .Maybe we just went through a Bogan moment! The red VH SS did look cool with those flares and big wheels, rebels I think they were! Was quiet fun to drive too mind you at 30,000 ks things starting going wrong with it so sold it! The VH SS wasn&#039;t so racy but equally a nice car to drive..it was white ..I really still like the Blue group A&#039;s in the VH .The Brock director.......I didn&#039;t like, hubby bought it for me from Sydney at the time....seemed too old for me .Sold it and bought another BM! Brock Directors were a Calais type SS Commodore...I guess thats why I didn&#039;t like it at the time I was only about 23 !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep mine is blue too Tonyn with a bit of white for BMW &#8230;I don&#8217;t know why at the time we bought the Commodores,I think that maybe what Ford was producing at the time couldn&#8217;t match Holdens stuff .Maybe we just went through a Bogan moment! The red VH SS did look cool with those flares and big wheels, rebels I think they were! Was quiet fun to drive too mind you at 30,000 ks things starting going wrong with it so sold it! The VH SS wasn&#8217;t so racy but equally a nice car to drive..it was white ..I really still like the Blue group A&#8217;s in the VH .The Brock director&#8230;&#8230;.I didn&#8217;t like, hubby bought it for me from Sydney at the time&#8230;.seemed too old for me .Sold it and bought another BM! Brock Directors were a Calais type SS Commodore&#8230;I guess thats why I didn&#8217;t like it at the time I was only about 23 !</p>
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		<title>By: Me.</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/8205/torana-to-make-a-comeback/#comment-40921</link>
		<dc:creator>Me.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 00:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What the BM!!!! You had a Brock Director? Thats a friggin rare car!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What the BM!!!! You had a Brock Director? Thats a friggin rare car!</p>
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		<title>By: Tonyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tonyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 23:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well well bm, i have never looked like going to the dark side! I reckon my blood is blue and not red!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well well bm, i have never looked like going to the dark side! I reckon my blood is blue and not red!!</p>
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		<title>By: Duck</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/8205/torana-to-make-a-comeback/#comment-40907</link>
		<dc:creator>Duck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 23:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Be good if it came to production but id rather rather like to see a VE Monaro!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be good if it came to production but id rather rather like to see a VE Monaro!</p>
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		<title>By: wheelnut</title>
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		<dc:creator>wheelnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 23:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What The?? 

The Torana name goes back to 1970-71. Whereas [as far as I am aware] the Typhoon is a fairly recent thing with FPV and the BA-BF Falcons

Torana has always been a stand alone model; whereas the Typhoon is more of an &quot;add-on&quot; as in the Ford Falcon Typhoon.

Then of course there&#039;s the Toranas multiple Bathurst wins including 72 when Brock won the race solo and in 78 when Brock set the fastest lap on the last lap of the race.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What The?? </p>
<p>The Torana name goes back to 1970-71. Whereas [as far as I am aware] the Typhoon is a fairly recent thing with FPV and the BA-BF Falcons</p>
<p>Torana has always been a stand alone model; whereas the Typhoon is more of an &#8220;add-on&#8221; as in the Ford Falcon Typhoon.</p>
<p>Then of course there&#8217;s the Toranas multiple Bathurst wins including 72 when Brock won the race solo and in 78 when Brock set the fastest lap on the last lap of the race.</p>
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		<title>By: Bavarian Missile</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bavarian Missile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 08:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been to the darkside a few times.....Had a Brock Calais director.....and 2 SS Commodores ! A9X was the best though!! Will try scanning a photo of it and send it too you Tonyn!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been to the darkside a few times&#8230;..Had a Brock Calais director&#8230;..and 2 SS Commodores ! A9X was the best though!! Will try scanning a photo of it and send it too you Tonyn!</p>
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		<title>By: FordFutureDriven</title>
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		<dc:creator>FordFutureDriven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 07:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scum to Ford. Anyway Torana has nowhere near the history of the Typhoon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scum to Ford. Anyway Torana has nowhere near the history of the Typhoon</p>
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		<title>By: Me.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Me.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 06:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I almost went on the dark side when I was a kid because of other kids, then when I grew up I learnt that I should not listen to kids that don&#039;t know there cars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I almost went on the dark side when I was a kid because of other kids, then when I grew up I learnt that I should not listen to kids that don&#8217;t know there cars.</p>
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		<title>By: Tonyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tonyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 05:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh my god BM, you once were a member of the dark side?? im gutted!! hehehehe....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh my god BM, you once were a member of the dark side?? im gutted!! hehehehe&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Bavarian Missile</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bavarian Missile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 02:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Wheelnut I had a black one .......all black ,white interior ,silver simmons wheels .Was a beautiful car! Was an A9X though!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Wheelnut I had a black one &#8230;&#8230;.all black ,white interior ,silver simmons wheels .Was a beautiful car! Was an A9X though!</p>
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		<title>By: wheelnut</title>
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		<dc:creator>wheelnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 02:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I prefer the stealth looking Black SLRs with SLR5000 in Silver Shadow writing or Red and Black</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I prefer the stealth looking Black SLRs with SLR5000 in Silver Shadow writing or Red and Black</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 09:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wheelnut,
the bulge would have to be the SLR type.

and sorry missile no boring old grey like the SLR5000 you reckons looks better than the yellow/black for eg

grey SLR5000&#039;s look crap!!!!!
yellow/black yes yes yes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wheelnut,<br />
the bulge would have to be the SLR type.</p>
<p>and sorry missile no boring old grey like the SLR5000 you reckons looks better than the yellow/black for eg</p>
<p>grey SLR5000&#8217;s look crap!!!!!<br />
yellow/black yes yes yes</p>
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		<title>By: wheelnut</title>
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		<dc:creator>wheelnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 08:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If they added a bulge.. Wonder if they&#039;d go for the smooth one piece bulge like on the XR8s and GTs or revert to something like on the VL Walkies.. or maybe even being a Torana, like the Old SL/R5000&#039;s.. But  SL/R3600 or SL/R6200 doesn&#039;t sound quite the same as SL/R5000

However; Ive seen an SLR8000 with a Keith Black V8 in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they added a bulge.. Wonder if they&#8217;d go for the smooth one piece bulge like on the XR8s and GTs or revert to something like on the VL Walkies.. or maybe even being a Torana, like the Old SL/R5000&#8217;s.. But  SL/R3600 or SL/R6200 doesn&#8217;t sound quite the same as SL/R5000</p>
<p>However; Ive seen an SLR8000 with a Keith Black V8 in it.</p>
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