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2011 Holden Commodore VE Series II gets flex-fuel E85 compatibility

By Brett Davis |

Holden has just released the 2011 Holden Commodore VE Series II which is Australia’s first car that offers flex-fuel technology. Both ordinary petrol and premium petrol can be used or E85 fuel, available at selected service stations.

E85 is a blend of 85 percent ethanol and 15 percent oil-based fuel. The good thing about E85 is it is more environmentally friendly and is able to burn slower, eliminating engine-killing detonation whilst enhancing performance, when compared to normal unleaded petrol. For most motorists, using E85 doesn’t really mean all that much, but the trend to use such a fuel has the potential to overtake and replace standard and premium petrol we’ve become used to. So having a car compatible and ready for this change can only be a good thing.

Anyway. The new Holden Commodore offers other improvements as well. It features cosmetic revisions, mainly to the front and rear bumper bars. There’s also a range of new technologies applied to the interior to enhance passive comfort and Holden’s 3.0-litre and 3.6-litre V6 engines have also been re-engineered and now produce less emissions and are more fuel efficient than the previous variants. Improvements also stand for 6.0-litre V8 engine models.

Although the Commodore Series II doesn’t look all that new from the outside – hence Series II – the guys at Holden have redesigned the front and rear to appear slightly more aggressive and more aero-friendly. There’s also a new grille and headlights and all sedan models are fitted with a rear lip spoiler mounted on the boot deck, for that aerodynamic touch.

Inside, there’s a new centre stack fascia with new illuminations and colours, new mouldings around the air vents and controls, and then there’s the ever-presence of Holden’s iQ display system. This is a 6.5 inch touch-screen moulded into the top centre of the dash, now standard on all models, even the base Omega. Also standard across the range is dual-zone climate control air-conditioning.

Other standard features inside include Bluetooth connectivity, iPod and MP3 compatibility and memory USB stick ports. This is all navigable through the 6.5 inch iQ screen. This screen also displays satellite navigation information – standard on SS-V, Calais-V and Caprice models.

Engine-wise, Holden’s 3.0-litre SIDI V6 has been made 2 percent more fuel efficient, now consuming 9.1L/100km in the Australian Design Rules official test. The 3.6-litre SIDI has also been made 3 percent more fuel efficient, while the 6.0-litre V8 models see fuel economy improvements of 6 percent. All V6 models now receive 4 stars in the Federal Government’s Green Vehicle Guide, too.

The 3.0-litre SIDI V6 and 6.0-litre V8 engines are the ones compatible with E85 fuel. The flex-fuel system allows the car to use organically-developed ethanol fuel at the standardised 85 percent ratio. Using this fuel is said to reduce CO2 emissions coming out from the tailpipe by as much as 40 percent. And it doesn’t matter if you top the car up on regular unleaded or premium unleaded either, the engine and its software will figure it all; there’s no need to ‘switch’ from fuel to fuel.

Mike Devereux, Holden chairman and managing director, said in a recent report,

“We have placed an enormous emphasis on developing technology that can be used in today’s vehicles to make driving better for the environment. That has included leading the way for Australian produced cars with bio-ethanol, providing motorists with a cleaner fuel alternative when filling up their car.”

Visit your local Holden dealer to check it all out. The car was launched just yesterday in Melbourne.


 
  • ox

    What?!? No LEDs ??
    Prefer the original

    • freddo

      hate led’s.

      • Jon

        LEDs are nice.

        • Jon Leong

          Did you meant LED are rice?

    • http://www.facebook.com/sammo.8191 Sam Moss

      LEDs are nice when incorporated into the headlight cluster. When they are only tacked onto the front they just look like a cheap after-thought.

      • Steve-Poyza

        Couldn’t agree more. But also, LEDs need to look like they are properly integrated in the headlight cluster. An example of good looking LED integration – all new Audi’s. An example of poorly integrated LEDs – Lexus IS’ recent facelift.

      • topdog

        Yeh just look how awful the hsv s look now with there tacked on leds

  • TomJ

    The interiors on the SS are very nice, but i was expecting a bit more overall.

  • Dave

    VE Series 2. Changes looks good. Interior looks good with touch screen. V8 with E85 – Yes Please!

    • Mikey_94

      “The 3.0-litre SIDI V6 and 6.0-litre V8 engines are the ones compatible with E85 fuel”

      Not the V8, which only runs on regular petrol. Still, nice interior, minimal but good looking update.

      • Shak

        You just said the V8 gets E85, but then say it doesnt. BTW it does, i just want you to be clear.

        • Mikey_94

          I was simply telling Dave that the V8 does not come with E85 capability, as evident in the quote I extracted from the article. Only the V6 engines (both 3.0L and 3.6L) come with the ability to run of ‘Bio-Ethanol’ as it has been dubbed.

          • Mikey_94

            Sorry, I misread. The V8 DOES come with E85. My bad… I never knew people loved to execute others so much on these comments :(

            Thanks for clarifying Shak

  • Goodfa

    The GFC has really hurt Holden.
    More than 4 years after the release of VE and this is what we get.My worst fears have come true as this is too little,too late.
    The good news is once the people who automatically buy a new model have bought their VEII’s they will have to discount heavily to move them.

    By the end of this year Ford will have the edge in the V8 as well for the first time in ages.

    Maybe I was expecting too much.

    • TomJ

      Holden is trying innovation here with the touch screen and i like that (lets hear how well it works).

      But i do agree, even the upgrade from the VT to the VX felt somewhat different.

      The Direct Injection engine upgrade should have been called the series 2. And they should have rolled it out all together.

      Having said that the FG looks rather dated aswell already.

      I sense tough times ahead for Australian car manufactuers.

    • Brodie

      What you have to remember is that holden have trickled upgrades into the VE over the last 4 years. Some are very signifact upgrades like SIDI. They have done this rather than releasing all the upgrades at once. The 2010/2011 VE is a vastly different and a hell of a lot better car than the 2006 VE

      • 70′s Datsun

        What are the others??

        • Brodie

          Im not going to go into detail, but there are also things such as various software upgrades eg the automatic transmission. suspension upgrades etc.

          • Georgina JNW

            From the VZ model onwards, Holden ceased the long-standing tradition of offering “Series II” and occasional “Series III” revisions to the Commodore range and its derivatives. Holden have instead implemented a series of running changes over VE’s lifetime, signified by model year (MY):[107]

            * MY08: models came in April 2007. The horizontal wood grain key line across the dash on the Berlina was replaced by a matte silver insert. Also, the recessed buttons on the Omega key fob were now raised and made of a more durable plastic. This did not affect the remaining variants, fitted with the “flip-out” key fob from launch.

            * MY08.5: changes from August 2007 coincided with launch of the VE Ute.[108]

            * MY09: models were launched on 15 March 2008. Six airbags were made standard across the range—Omega and SV6 variants were previously fitted with two and four airbags respectively. Omega models also received standard fitment of air conditioning, 16 inch alloy wheels, body colour wing mirrors and door handles, and a new grille insert with chrome highlights.[71] Revised alloy wheel designs were featured on the Calais (seven-spoke) and Calais V (10-spoke).

            * MY09.5: upgrades affected models ordered from 21 October 2008. Instrument cluster illumination was commonised to white. The turn-by-turn satellite navigation and Berlina V8 options were removed. Engine wise, the “premium” version of the Alloytec V6 was now fitted to the Omega and Berlina, bringing improved fuel consumption and a slight reduction in engine output (see above).[109] A range of safety upgrades were also introduced (see above).[110] Further MY09.5 changes were introduced in March 2009. The space-saver spare wheel were discontinued and replaced by two no-cost options: either a lightweight tyre inflator kit or a full-size spare wheel (previously an extra cost).[111] Sportwagon variants of the Calais V and SS V receive an alloy spare wheel if the full-size spare is chosen, while the remainder of the line-up receives a steel wheel spare.[112] March also signaled an opportunity for Holden to replace the dark-grey horizontal dashboard strip and steering wheel spokes as used on the SV6, SS and SS V to a matte silver type.[113] The safety improvements made to the Omega sedan from October production onwards were also introduced for the Omega Sportwagon (see above),[28] and the “V-Series” insignia used on SS V and Calais V models was removed, replaced by a single “SS V” or “Calais V” badge.

            * MY10: versions of the VE were released in September 2009. New 3.0 litre and 3.6 litre V6s have been introduced, featuring Spark Ignition Direct Injection (SIDI) and coupled to a new six-speed automatic transmission (see above).[114] These revised powertrains are marketed as part of Holden’s EcoLine range.[59] Visually, all SIDI versions are distinguished by relocated and additional EcoLine badging.[107] 3.0 litre versions now utilise twin exhaust outlets,[107] and the Omega switches from green to blue interior lighting.[citation needed] Updated cars also gain a recalibrated suspension setup and an extra ball-joint in the rear suspension (previously introduced on the Sportwagon); the result is increased tautness and improved handling in models fitted with 18 and 19 inch diameter wheels.[115] These cars are also equipped with a larger 24-millimetre (0.9 in) rear stabiliser bar.[116] Additional engine bay sound deadening and a new muffler have resulted in reduced noise, vibration, and harshness. Elsewhere, the fitment of lighter low rolling-resistance tyres aids fuel consumption by minimising friction.[117]

        • EFGT

          So besides the engines, nothing worth mentioning

    • Dave

      The GFC hurt a lot of companies. What Holden have here are some great changes. Touch screens, large capacity audio system, new look.

      E85 is a big change in the way we do things. Long term planning. This not just swapping one fossil fuel for another.

      A lot of positive changes.
      This car deserves to do well.

  • Golfschwein

    I like that the cars run on whatever combination of fuel you put in them, but omitting a diesel variant is a missed opportunity. Then again, if Holden eventually offers this E85 and an, ahem, INTELLIGENT gas option (not one that has owners stuffing a toiletry bag around the perimeter of the tank on the boot floor), then their alternative fuel offerings are covered in an alternative way.

    The new interior is much less horriffic than I thought it would be from earlier pictures and might just make me toddle down to a dealer soon for a look. Love the canary yellow. Is it metallic or gloss?

    • Andrew M

      I doubt they will miss many sales from not having a diesel.

      I doubt they could throw one of their deisels in this and claim 9.0L like the 3.0L SIDI.

      Also the diesel wouldnt be as green, and earning green stars is what its all about at the moment

      I would guess the yellow would be metallic, what isnt metallic nowdays…..

      Even the likes of Mazda, Suzuki, Subaru etc to name a few have even thrown flecks through white!!!

      • Frenchie

        I don’t think the yellow is metallic Andrew.

        • Shak

          it isnt. Holden describe it as Solid.

        • Andrew M

          Well if it isnt, thats very rare

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=503133181 Brayden Cresswell

    Very basic upgrade new interior is nice but still a very boring looking car

  • Devil’s Advocate

    “…a 6.5 inch touch-screen moulded seamlessly into the top centre of the dash…”
    Ummmm,ok. Seamless wouldn’t be a word I would use but fair enough! :-) Almost sounds like that line was taken straight out of the official press release!

    Good to hear it is standard across the range as well as dual climate though . Nice one GM-H.

    • http://caradvice.com.au Brett Davis

      Everyone’s an editor now :)
      Fixed though, just for you.

    • Mick

      The whole article sounds like the press release. If you head to the Holden website the press release is available there. I have struggled to find a difference between this article and the press release.

      • http://caradvice.com.au Brett Davis

        ‘Struggled to find a difference’, ouch.
        I spent two hours on this actually, and, having never actually driven the car, I added my own bits of research at the beginning.
        Only the specific details are taken from the press release – how else can I provide the info? Lie? Say that the new car isn’t red, it’s blue? Even though the facts say otherwise.
        I think you’re getting confused with an opinionated review, which this is not.

        • Mick

          I admit it Brett “struggled to find a difference” might have been a bit harsh, I also realise it is difficult to provide information in this case where it is being drip fed by Holden.
          Personally I have found that many of the articles you guys have been doing recently resemble marketing material or a slightly edited copy of the press release which is disappointing as a long time reader because it seems that occasionally the site is losing the fresh approach it had a few years ago.
          I know this isn’t an opinionated review, that should be left to the likes of Wheels mag.

        • Stoney!

          Well said Brett and thanks for getting the latest news to us.

          Stoney!

  • TomJ

    Also, im assuming this makes the SS and SS-V interiors roughly the same?

    To me the major shortcoming of the SS model was the fact that it lacked the large audio screen. It made it look ‘cheap’.

    Im assuming there is no real reason to buy the SS-V now?

    • Damian

      The SS-V comes with standard leather, 19 inch wheels, navigation… basically, all the impractical stuff you don’t need.

  • m2m

    The red SV6 wagon looks great!

    although the changes aren’t drastic – i think they’re still a smart looking car.

  • Bimmerc

    E85 compatible fuel is certainly welcome, but not many servo had them available.

    Diesel commodore is most of people really want.

  • Alexander

    The exterior/interior changes are nice, and it’s good that all the V6 engines now use less than 10l/100km & the V8 engines are under 300g/km

  • c3vzn

    zzzzz…sorry fell asleep.

  • Rhubarb

    How come the HSV series 2 got such a huge visual upgrade and the Holden series 2 got such a subtle upgrade???

    Not that I want to see long stips of LED’s and massive bonnet scoops on the Commodores, but why couldn’t they have made a bigger change than what they did???

    You would have to be very eagle eyed to spot the difference between series 1 and 2 on the road.

    Holden, what went wrong???

    • Joker

      Rhubarb,

      HSV do their own in house body work. Some of it may be done with cooperation of Holden to get fabricated but they are not “Holden” so to speak, they’re a Factory endorsed Tuning house. Same as FPV.
      You’re right, we’re going to have to look a little harder to sport the VF/VE2…Nice tech additions mind you. Much needed as they’ve played catch up on this one.
      E85 Tuning etc for the V6…Nice but nothing to write home about. Holden now have a product that is on the Pace, just not ahead…nothing new there.

  • delux

    The face now looks cartoonish. Its ad if the designers went over it and filleted all the edges.

    The naming convention has me stumped… MY10 and now we have a series 2. Almost as bad as AU, BA & FG.

    • Golfschwein

      And with it comes the silly Series II badge. Only Holden does this. Why don’t they think more of us?

      • Devil’s Advocate

        Golfschwein, have you already forgotten the “Series III” badge Ford used on the AU? GM-H aren’t the only ones who do that. :-)

        • The Oracle

          Yep, and don’t forget that when Ford released the FG, the BA wagons were badged “Series III”

        • Golfschwein

          Well, it did come to mind. Shame on me for being lazy. Mitsubishi did the same with 380s, too, I think.

          Okay..two things..it seems offensive that manufacturers see it as a way of making gullible buyers go oooh aaah look this is a series III, or maybe it’s just a way of the cars getting some hard to come by kudos on the used car court, at that rather insulting time when they are discarded by their first owner. Whatever. Other manufacturers let the changes in their cars speak for themselves, knowing that the buyers can work it out on their own.

  • TomJ

    You really feel the bogan presence in every holden/ford article based on the down rating of every single post regardless of quality.

  • TomJ

    Also so much for caradvices ‘revealed’ exterior renderings, they look nothing alike.

    • Trouble

      Haha don’t bag Caradvice TomJ, your post will go missing before you can say “Censorship!”

      To be fair though, renderings are generally speculation based on word of mouth etc.

      • theo

        freedom of speech…if they cant take the criticism, then get out of the game.

    • http://www.caradvice.com.au George Skentzos

      They look spot on to me?

      • theo

        grille and bumper are not the same for the omega.

    • theo

      i said the same thing and they deleted my post!!!

  • zahmad

    Finally they made it look a bit rounded and overall less “blocky” at the front end to bring it in with the times. A great solid subtle facelift in my opinion….much better looking than the ricer HSV models. Loving the new omega grill, but why does the holden badge have to be so big?

  • http://zuboora.com mohamad is right when he

    i think i just had a poo poo explosion looking at these pics. thanks alot holden :(

  • Shak

    Why is is that Companies like Toyota, BMW, Volkswagen et al can keep a design for over 6 years and people say they look “suave”, “mature” etc. But when the local offerings dont upgrade every four years we get jittery. Our local manufacturers dont have anywhere near as many sales or R&D dollars to change panels every four years. I reckon while they could have done more aesthetically, the interior was the main focus here, and it looks good now.

    • Radbloke

      Compare the interior of this to both the BMW and Volkswagen equivalent. The Holden isn’t officially released until next month and it already looks dated. The others still exude quality and style (not the Toyota, obviously). That’s why the locals get so much stick; their designs usually tend to age quickly and poorly.

      • nickdl

        Compare the price of this to the BMW equivalent…

        I agree that Fords and Holdens tend to age much faster but when they’re about 1/3 the price of an equivalent engined 5 Series or E-Class what do you expect?

        Like Shak said, Holden have done a pretty good job considering they have only a tiny R&D budget compared to BMW and Volkswagen.

      • Roger Ramjet

        Ok so which model BMW, VW or any other brand apart from Ford sells a family sized large car in RWD for under $40k?

  • Shak

    Also what this article fails to mention is that the Statesman is dead, replaced by caprice and Caprice-V twins. Also the Holden iQ has a built in capacity to store information from 15 CD’s as well as wireless streaming from electronic devices(phone, ipod). It also has an integrated colour display for the reverse camera when equipped.

    • Dave

      The Statesman will be missed. At least the Caprice lives on bigger and stronger with 2 models.

      • Radbloke

        No it won’t, that’s why they’re dropping it. Caprice consistently out-sold the Statesman 4 to 1.

  • Richo

    9.1L/100km is actually quite good for such a large vehicle, and with the option of E85 when it becomes more widely available, this improves the running cost argument for the Commodore significantly.

    People need to realise though that this is only a series II update, and by series II update standards, which in the past have only been new wheels and hubcaps usually, this is a pretty big upgrade, this isn’t a VT-VX style update here, the full VF update is still another 18 months off.

    • jp

      18 months…. i doubt that! would hardly be worth their while doing it if only to extend for 18 months i would have thought?

    • Andrew M

      E85 wont improve the running cost argument because its 20cents cheaper at the pump, but consumption goes up, and its about to get slugged with a 12.5cpl tax.

      They only good cost argument is LPG

      • Frenchie

        Isn’t E85 federal excise free (no 38 cents per litre tax).

        • Shak

          Yes as a whole fuel it is, but the Petroleum component is still taxed per litre, and therefore technically it is not excise free.

          • Andrew M

            And there is more excise to come Shak.

            It also has the planned phase in of 12.5cpl over 5 years, just like LPG

  • JEKYL & HYDE

    love (most) holdens but..

    this car is different because is got usb,ipod compatable stereo with flashdrive and touchscreen.you can buy one for what? $500-600 dollars anywhere.

    what price climate air nowdays.most others have it standard.

    new wheels,bumpers etc(no cost upgrade in production anyway).

    at the minute most of the commodore range is gutted down,drive away no more to pay.how much more do holden expect to get from this new model?isn’t aurion,falcon xr like $33k a.t.m.

    my guess is back to current prices by years end…

    • Frenchie

      What would you like to see in the vehicle?

      • JEKYL & HYDE

        well my short list would be a bit nicer interior plastics again,say 100kg weight reduction,smaller “a” pillars(smash repairers love the v.e.)and how about putting the battery back under the bonnett,should sort out a have electrical issues…

        • Andrew

          If your implying that smash repairs love them because they are in so many accidents because of the A pillars, you might also remember that being the most popular car in Australia for 14 consecutive years, that there is most likely a higher number of commodores on the road then any other type and hence a higher probability of hitting one.

          • JEKYL & HYDE

            having owned a vt,vx,vz,ve,and liked them all,i can honestly tell you that they’re too thick,and yes i’ve seen alot of them in accidents,mainly roundabouts and t intersections(my wife included).nearly had one pull out it front of me yesterday,and the look on the woman’s face told me she didn’t see me because of the a pillar.i’m not saying it competitor’s are any better,just that it’s a area well worth fixing,if they can…

          • Andrew

            I have also owned a vn vt vz and ve, and my mum has one to, and i believe that it actually makes me more aware at round abouts, i pay way more attention in my VE then a ever did in my VZ

  • Car Enthusiast

    A few subtle but very discreet changes make the commodore even better.

    Love the new Lamborghini like styling on the bumpers, some nice touches to the interior and better quality new materials, nice new colours, and wheel Design(especially Caprice V wheels).

    Only minor annoyance, why the round air con vents on the sporty models. I know the look sort of works, but only from some angles, they should of just kept the normal vents.

    Oh well thats my 2 cents worth.

  • Jaron Fisher

    I’m so glad I’ve bought a MY10 SV6

    • Richo

      Why? Surely even a small improvement is still an improvement?

  • TomJ

    The new front bars lines are lost on the brighter colours.

    That new Gunmetal silver really shows off the lines!

  • http://www.caradvice.com.au It’s true

    I\’m not in to down under cars i just wanted to have a read of this new car and I\’m shocked to learn that this is there first model with a LCD touch screen interface! my god is australia really that slow its 2010. these so called car manufactures need get with the times .

    • Devil’s Advocate

      Whilst I am not a GM-H “fanboi” and don’t think they are anything special, name any other mainstream car available in Australia, or most other countries for that matter, that have a touch screen across the entire range. You have to give credit where it is due, especially with the small economy of scale of such a small market…

      • Ricky

        Well the Commodore range starts at 40 grand so you’d bloody well expect it to have some good gear. For 10 grand less than that (about 30k) you can get a damn good i45, Kizashi, Camry, or Accord. Personally I don’t see the sense in spending the extra 10 grand on a Holden.

        • Frenchie

          Omega starts at 33k.

          • Shak

            No the Commodore International starts at 33k, whereas the normal pricing of the Omega is around 40K (39990)

        • Damian

          “For 10 grand less than that (about 30k) you can get a damn good i45, Kizashi, Camry, or Accord. Personally I don’t see the sense in spending the extra 10 grand on a Holden.”

          I don’t think I would use “damn good” and “i45, Kizashi, Camry” in the same sentence. The cars you have listed are mediocre, at best. The i45 has bad dynamics (typical of your average Korean whitegood), and the Kizashi is severely underpowered and sounds like a broken speedboat with that disgusting CVT. Furthermore, people spend more on a Holden because they appreciate RWD dynamics; need to tow (I’d love to see you do that in a Kizashi or i45); love lazy, low-end torque; and appreciate the Commodore’s bang for buck factor.

  • Damian

    The FG Falcon interior looks so much nicer than the VE 2 interior. The centre stack and climate controls look like an afterthought.

    • Richo

      Only a Ford fanboi could say that, looking at both from an unbiassed perspective and you’d have to say they seem about the same

      • Andrew M

        Well if you reckon the layout/ergonimics are the same, then yours isnt an unbiased perspective either

      • Damian

        I am not a Ford enthusiast by any measure. However, the interior of the FG Falcon just looks a lot more cohesive and well thought out. The Ford’s centre stack LCD screen is actually at eye level, and Ford have made use of all the space that’s available for the stereo and climate controls. The interior design of the VE2 Commodore seems to be a backwards step from its predecessor. The big gap between the LCD screen and the climate controls is an absolute mess, and almost looks MPV like in its awkward presentation. It’s as if the interior design team was split into groups and the designs subsequently slapped together in an overnight rush job.

  • Byron

    Great uprade & i’m loving the new front end especially the red sportswagon. Interior looks heaps good with that awesome touchscreen & the whole interior looks waaaaaayyyyy better than VE 1. Can’t wait to see one in the metal :D :D:D

  • nickdl

    I reckon Holden have done a pretty good job with the new interiors except the SS-V. Those round air vents look tacky as does the red which screams out ‘bogan’. Although I still think the FG interior looks better and works better.

    Reading the press release on the Holden site gives a lot more detail. It’s got some great features across the range and the GPS sounds like a winner.

  • Gibbo

    Calais looks really nice, the small changes to the front smooth the lines and give it a more eligant look. Interiors look good aswell. I must say Im finding it hard to pick any visual change to the Caprice apart from the wheels on the Caprice V-series.

  • Ricky

    Does the Omega ute still have a 4 speed auto? lol.

    • Karl

      The omega ute now has the 3ltr engine and 6 speed auto.

  • Sandeep Patel

    Very very very mild update I would say.
    I think in this day and age 4 years to run with a very similar model is not the worth. A relative bought a now called Series I SV6 for a s&#t load less and I reckon that would bethe way to go over a Series II.

    • Ricky

      There are alot of cars that go for the full 5 year cycle without ANY change at all to the design. I can name a few examples including the current generation VW Jetta and Hyundai Elantra. Neither of these cars has received any external modifications at all since 2006. But that’s nothing compared to the previous generation Toyota LandCruiser Prado which went 7 years (2003-2010) without changing. So 4 years really is nothing.

      • The Associate

        Yeah that’s true, but all the cars you’ve mentioned are not as populr as the Commodore…

    • EFGT

      One mans mild is another mans red hot

  • Ricky

    I see they are finally offering the sedan in yellow! The VE has not been offered in that colour up until now. Incidentally I saw a yellow one a few weeks back (not a series II) – must have been custom sprayed but looked factory.

    • nickdl

      Maybe it’ll replace the Falcon as a cab then…

  • Hung Low

    Looks like this E85 model is also made for an export market like Brazil, personally Holden cannot justify the E85 development in our shrinking market, they cannot be that stupid!

    • Hung Low

      Those who have voted down my comment are going to look like goose’s!
      Latest news, the VE2 will be exported to Brazil under the Chev badge!

  • http://www.facebook.com/sammo.8191 Sam Moss

    Wheels magazine made sweeping predictions about what the Series 2 Commodore would look like a few issues ago.

    They were obviously way off the mark…

  • ABMPSV

    I was reading on many websites that E85 generates only about 75 percent as much power as a gallon of gasoline. That means that ethanol would have to be roughly 25 percent cheaper per gallon to be bargain for consumers.

  • Nobody

    Well, no matter what we say here, the real test for the new models from both Holden and Ford is when all the opinions are formed at the Sydney motor show in October when we see them in flesh..

    Honestly, Im dying to decide on one myself between the new SSV and Ford XR6T(which will be eventually phased out…if Im correct)

    • Glen

      umm no your incorrect. XR6 Turbos are not getting phased out. It was rumoured the XR8 may be phased out, but looks like its going to be kept around with the new engine

      • Nobody

        hhmmm..XR8 is currently off the Ford’s line up until they bring out the Coyote SC version..I remember reading in many websites when the Ford’s new V6 comes out and rumor is that XR6T will be out under Ford’s global one car plan.

        • Andrew M

          Rumour is also that Ford are drumming up outside customer orders for the I6.
          MB has even said on the record that there has been interest in shipments of the motor, but would not disclose who the companies were that are interested.

          Hopefully the motor can make a case for itself globally, because there sure is a case downunder.
          Throw an alloy block on it and it will be ready for any emissions level that can be thrown at it

  • Glen

    Interior looks less like an astra, still not that good especially the calais interior, looks cheap to me. Still haven’t fixed that handbrake i see.

    Sorry but those exterior updates make it look more like a BA falcon, those lights look exactly the same as a BA XT.

  • Goodfa

    It is a bit of a worry for Holden when the interior of a $25,000 2009 CDX Cruze looks more modern than a $50,000 2011 VEII Commodore.

  • EFGT

    The new ford coyote s/c v8 is gunna teach this thing a lesson, faster 6, faster v8, blistering turbo 6 and better real world fuel economy. The Falcon is superior in every aspect now, and the gap is widening

    • Shak

      And yet the sales gap between the two is getting wider, and will keep doing so.

      • Joe

        Yes but as we have seen in the recent election, Aussies are not the smartest people.

      • Glen

        Umm Shak if you look again you’ll see Falcon sales have actually increased this year also the gap is decreasing. And the only reason there’s a gap atm is because of the sportswagon. Add Territory sales to Falcon sales and tell me how close it really is. BTW Falcon is back to No.2 on sales charts without a wagon variany which is damn good

        And before somone goes “Well then add Captiva sales to Commodore sales” let me point something out. Territory is in all essense a Falcon wagon that is taller and can have AWD. a captiva is a Daewoo and has no correlation with a commodore whatsoever

      • Andrew M

        Looking at sales figures the Falcon has pegged back the commodore.

        As already mentioned, add Territory sales in place of sports wagon and its line ball.

        Ford Aus has been the #1 selling Aus manufacturer on many occasions this year.
        To be honest Im not sure if they take the gong out every month, or every 2nd month (never followed it that close), but what it proves either way is that Ford Aus is just as viable as Holden, and no such gap is widening

    • EFGTISLOSER

      Can’t wait till Lowndes and Whinncup are running E85, hopefully by bathurst they will have this up and running they will be unstopable, new touchscreen will be useful for data logging as well, go the lion, then we will see how crap ford is

      • VE2notmuchnew

        Mate you have no idea at all, how would they use the touchscreen with there racing gloves on?

      • Glen

        V8 Supercars already run on E85. They have a controlled fuel supplier so everybody runs it. They’ve been running it for the last 2 seasons. Apart from the bodyshell they really dont have anything in common with a road going Commodore so no touch screen plus drivers get all the info they need on their Motec or Pi Data dash readouts, and the engineers download the data to examine closely after a session not while they are driving.

        • EFGTISLOSER

          Well what are those aerials on the roof for if they aren\’t downloading data in real time and also how do they monitor what the car and driver are doing and make adjustments or do they do only do that in the pits, don\’t you listen to neil crompton or look when mark larkham is drawing on the whiteboard, you have no idea. Anyway I have a mate who works for HRT and he told me that Will Davidson drives his racecar home sometimes cause he doesn\’t live to far from sandown because thats where the saying win on raceday, sell on monday comes from, they are basically stock commies and falcons with exhausts and retunes

          • Glen

            Ha ha it’s funny when someone is caught out on a flat out lie.

            V8 Supercars CAN’T be driven on the road, they are purpose built race cars. Plus if they were stock why do they still have 5 litre pushrod V8′s in both cars when niether road car has them. The Commodore road car currently has a 6.0 Litre Pushrod Unit whereas the Falcon has a 5.4 Litre DOHC unit. Plus HRT don’t test at Sandown they test at Winton.

            The saying came from back when they used to race production based cars back in the 60′s and early 70′s where some drivers did in fact drive their race cars to the track then home again.

          • Glen20

            Jesus Glen carnt you see when someone casts out the rod looking to catch some idiot fish, he sure got a biggun on the line with you. I carnt believe you replied to that, id say hes having a bit of a chuckle right now

        • Devil’s Advocate

          Not even the body shell is common between the racer and the road car any more Glen. Both of the race cars run a shortened wheelbase hence the roof and rear doors are “shorter” than the road car (approx 100mm IIRC). There are very few ‘interchangeable’ components left now. If anything, the Ford and Holden racers share more components with each other than they do the road car they are based off.

  • qwerty

    why did they go to all the effort of designing and creating tooling for new headlight clusters that are virtually indistinguishable from the old ones? I understand that sheet metal changes are expensive but surely given the monetary investment in new headlights and bumpers they could have invested also in some more imaginative design!

    • Goodfa

      Totally agree qwerty.

  • EFGTISLOSER

    Open yur eyes people here is another sales winner, I heard from a reliable insider at a major dealer that you can option a supercharger on 6.0L V8 that will then give 420kW at rear wheels for around 10K all covered by factory warranty, so looks like holden has trumped ford again

    • Glen

      Poor little one eyed punter. Your reliable insider is probably talking about a walkinshaw aftermarket kit thats been available pretty much since the VE was released. I can tell you now they cost a lot more tha $10 grand. otherwise nearly all SS and HSV’s would have them. The “factory” warranty is from walkinshaw performance not Holden or HSV.

      Herrod Performance have similar packages for the Ford line up.

      • EFGTISLOSER

        Mate I’m not little or poor, your obviously the poor one for sitting on some high moral ground thinking you know everything, for your info it’s not walkinshaw it’s a GM backed (hence warranty) chinese company called blowyangwa and they are getting some amazing consistent Dyno results, google it if ya want. I have already seen and heard one in the flesh and have ordered mine. These things will eat herrod

        • Glen

          There is no way in hell I’d order a Chinese made supercharger kit. Krish is probably right it might be a dealer aftermarket kit.

          I’ll bet good money this kit is not GM-backed. Hope the dealer offers a really good warranty.

      • Dave

        Why dont people read?

        The 10k conversion is a reference to the Race Sport models reviewed recently. Awesome gear.

        • Glen

          Thanks Dave I didn’t see that article b4. But old mate was talking about a $10K supercharger kit so I dunno if he got his wires crossed.

    • Krish

      The option your talking about is more than likely dealer fitted, with a dealer backed warranty. There is no chance you will see this option on the Holden website, if Holden engineers were placing a supercharger as a factory fitted option to all 6L Commodores, it would be HUGE news.

  • steven427

    The last picture (line up of cars) shows a green sportwagon (next two green ute), which has pontiac gxp rims with bremebo four piston brakes( also on the pontaic gxp, and hsv gxp). Surely this will be an option, as it was seen on alot of spy pics of the ve series 2.(Anyway will find out on sep 10:)

  • steven427

    WOW pricing confirmed by chairman no lift in prices and caprice will be cheaper as there is now a caprice v. The standard omega is great value with colour touch screen stadard and speedo, also dual zone climate control being stadard (with outside temp), and bluetooth and ipod/USB connectivity/intergration, also standard. Well done holden, best base car in aus:)

  • ABMPSV

    Would it be better if Holden goes diesel. Few years ago I was reading about Alfa 3 liter diesel will go into Holden. What’s happened?? WFC?!?!

  • http://www.bastowelectrical.com.au scott

    Great cars

  • http://www.unitedelectricalservices.com.au John

    Reliable work cars, we use the new sports wagon. Great on fuel and plenty of room.