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		<title>By: lhuda.com</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/8136/2007-audi-s3-review/comment-page-1/#comment-141396</link>
		<dc:creator>lhuda.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 09:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>waaaaaaaaw Audi s3 and rouge (( red )) wonderfull</description>
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		<title>By: Shaun</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/8136/2007-audi-s3-review/comment-page-1/#comment-68324</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 20:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are audi&#039;s in Oz so expensive, the same S3 is South Africa is only around AUD 47k, or about 30 - 40% cheaper than in Oz. Sounds like you guys are getting seriously ripped off. For AUD 75k you&#039;re looking at buying a RS4 in South Africa?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are audi&#8217;s in Oz so expensive, the same S3 is South Africa is only around AUD 47k, or about 30 &#8211; 40% cheaper than in Oz. Sounds like you guys are getting seriously ripped off. For AUD 75k you&#8217;re looking at buying a RS4 in South Africa?</p>
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		<title>By: SteveR32</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/8136/2007-audi-s3-review/comment-page-1/#comment-67548</link>
		<dc:creator>SteveR32</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 01:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sure a person that would buy a &quot;holden commodore SS V or Calais V&quot; would not ever consider an S3. Just like a person buying an S3 would never consider a holden.

For what its worth - I wouldn&#039;t be caught dead owning an SS-V Calais, regardless of any &quot;bang for buck&quot; equation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sure a person that would buy a &#8220;holden commodore SS V or Calais V&#8221; would not ever consider an S3. Just like a person buying an S3 would never consider a holden.</p>
<p>For what its worth &#8211; I wouldn&#8217;t be caught dead owning an SS-V Calais, regardless of any &#8220;bang for buck&#8221; equation.</p>
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		<title>By: Duck</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/8136/2007-audi-s3-review/comment-page-1/#comment-60237</link>
		<dc:creator>Duck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 05:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^^^^Rather buy a Holden commodore SS V or Calais V</description>
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		<title>By: Duck</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/8136/2007-audi-s3-review/comment-page-1/#comment-43309</link>
		<dc:creator>Duck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 02:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a great hatch!!!!  But it is quite expensive!</description>
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		<title>By: Liam</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/8136/2007-audi-s3-review/comment-page-1/#comment-42139</link>
		<dc:creator>Liam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 11:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@David: In regards to VAG cars having underquoted performance stats, my wife&#039;s 3dr GTI would attest to that. Twice now we&#039;ve had her *standard* car run at dyno days where it has performed far greater than the quoted 147kW factory flywheel figure would indicate. Most stock GTIs are running high 120kWs-low 130kWs on Aussie dynos. First day for our GTI, in June this year, the car pulled 149kW *at the wheels* on a Dyno Dynamics dyno. Second dyno run was recently in Sydney at Mainline, where on a 31 degree day after a few hours on the Hume Hwy the car pulled 140kW. Obviously the car has more than 7kW in drivetrain loss. Quite a sweet little car is the ol&#039; girl&#039;s GTI!

My drive is a 2004 Cooper S and I have been able to take an S3 out on my favourite test route. It was fan-bloody-tastic. You&#039;d swear the Audi guys built this car with a Cooper S and GTI as the two main ingredients. The S3 has the steering feel and directness as the MINI (although not quite as sharp, but damn close) with the refined ride quality and turbo rush of the GTI, but better.

I was very impressed with then S3. Perhaps around town the $20K difference between it and a GTI is not so noticeable, but on a twisty road you hit paydirt big time. You can just be so damn agressive on turn in with the S3, the grip is superb.

A vast improvement over the previous model S3, which was no slouch either. Well done Audi, 5 thumbs up from this hot hatch fan!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@David: In regards to VAG cars having underquoted performance stats, my wife&#8217;s 3dr GTI would attest to that. Twice now we&#8217;ve had her *standard* car run at dyno days where it has performed far greater than the quoted 147kW factory flywheel figure would indicate. Most stock GTIs are running high 120kWs-low 130kWs on Aussie dynos. First day for our GTI, in June this year, the car pulled 149kW *at the wheels* on a Dyno Dynamics dyno. Second dyno run was recently in Sydney at Mainline, where on a 31 degree day after a few hours on the Hume Hwy the car pulled 140kW. Obviously the car has more than 7kW in drivetrain loss. Quite a sweet little car is the ol&#8217; girl&#8217;s GTI!</p>
<p>My drive is a 2004 Cooper S and I have been able to take an S3 out on my favourite test route. It was fan-bloody-tastic. You&#8217;d swear the Audi guys built this car with a Cooper S and GTI as the two main ingredients. The S3 has the steering feel and directness as the MINI (although not quite as sharp, but damn close) with the refined ride quality and turbo rush of the GTI, but better.</p>
<p>I was very impressed with then S3. Perhaps around town the $20K difference between it and a GTI is not so noticeable, but on a twisty road you hit paydirt big time. You can just be so damn agressive on turn in with the S3, the grip is superb.</p>
<p>A vast improvement over the previous model S3, which was no slouch either. Well done Audi, 5 thumbs up from this hot hatch fan!</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/8136/2007-audi-s3-review/comment-page-1/#comment-39972</link>
		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 13:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How much is Audi offering to take it to the nearest cliff ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How much is Audi offering to take it to the nearest cliff ?</p>
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		<title>By: Flying High</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flying High</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 02:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for clearing tnat up Paul
cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for clearing tnat up Paul<br />
cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 01:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve found that VAG cars tend to be very conservative with their performance stats - Any car i&#039;ve tested (albeit roughly) or i&#039;ve seen tested is always quicker than VAG companies (VW/Audi/Skoda etc) list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve found that VAG cars tend to be very conservative with their performance stats &#8211; Any car i&#8217;ve tested (albeit roughly) or i&#8217;ve seen tested is always quicker than VAG companies (VW/Audi/Skoda etc) list.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Maric</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/8136/2007-audi-s3-review/comment-page-1/#comment-37825</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Maric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 23:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flying High:

Aside from equipment that uses GPS tracking, it&#039;s not possible to obtain an entirely accurate 0-100km/h time. Unfortunately, our budget doesn&#039;t stretch far enough to afford these often expensive devices (circa $10,000+ for a decent unit).

Although we do use a G-tech to measure 0-100km/h times, these are only used as an indication.

Just FYI though, when tested, the S3 was able to continuously achieve sub 6-second 0-100km/h times - according to the G-tech.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flying High:</p>
<p>Aside from equipment that uses GPS tracking, it&#8217;s not possible to obtain an entirely accurate 0-100km/h time. Unfortunately, our budget doesn&#8217;t stretch far enough to afford these often expensive devices (circa $10,000+ for a decent unit).</p>
<p>Although we do use a G-tech to measure 0-100km/h times, these are only used as an indication.</p>
<p>Just FYI though, when tested, the S3 was able to continuously achieve sub 6-second 0-100km/h times &#8211; according to the G-tech.</p>
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		<title>By: Flying High</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/8136/2007-audi-s3-review/comment-page-1/#comment-37730</link>
		<dc:creator>Flying High</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Paul Maric - Presumably this test was conducted in Australia.  So how can you get the 0-100 times wrong?  It appears that you do not actually conduct a proper test on these times and just put in the times quoted to you by the manufacturer.  You really should be doing these things as &#039;tested&#039; not as &#039;assumed&#039; correct based on manufacturer specs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Paul Maric &#8211; Presumably this test was conducted in Australia.  So how can you get the 0-100 times wrong?  It appears that you do not actually conduct a proper test on these times and just put in the times quoted to you by the manufacturer.  You really should be doing these things as &#8216;tested&#8217; not as &#8216;assumed&#8217; correct based on manufacturer specs.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 07:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I realise that ImportJap, the average wage was pre-tax for both German and Australian wages, and the tax for both Germany and Australia is about the same for both those annual salaries. A german earning EUR 35000 a year walks away with a disposable income of EUR 21000 a year, or around 40% tax. The average aussie earning $50k a year pays 30% tax, and then add on GST to most purchases so the effective tax goes up to around 35%, depending on how much stuff they buy each year. So it still works out to be around the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I realise that ImportJap, the average wage was pre-tax for both German and Australian wages, and the tax for both Germany and Australia is about the same for both those annual salaries. A german earning EUR 35000 a year walks away with a disposable income of EUR 21000 a year, or around 40% tax. The average aussie earning $50k a year pays 30% tax, and then add on GST to most purchases so the effective tax goes up to around 35%, depending on how much stuff they buy each year. So it still works out to be around the same.</p>
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		<title>By: ImportJap</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/8136/2007-audi-s3-review/comment-page-1/#comment-37673</link>
		<dc:creator>ImportJap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 07:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom, that &#039;average wage&#039; is before tax mate.

Love this S3. Sweet car, bit tough costwise but it&#039;s pure quality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, that &#8216;average wage&#8217; is before tax mate.</p>
<p>Love this S3. Sweet car, bit tough costwise but it&#8217;s pure quality.</p>
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		<title>By: Tonyn</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/8136/2007-audi-s3-review/comment-page-1/#comment-37585</link>
		<dc:creator>Tonyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 23:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its has a sports steering wheel as standard, but there is an upgrade Rs flat bottom steering wheel?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its has a sports steering wheel as standard, but there is an upgrade Rs flat bottom steering wheel?</p>
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		<title>By: Mitch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 22:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What happened to the personal opinion of the options list? i think a sports steering wheel should be standard on the sports model</description>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 03:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^^ What happened there, sorry i wrote a big post but it didnt work, ignore these two comments then!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^^ What happened there, sorry i wrote a big post but it didnt work, ignore these two comments then!</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 03:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whilst the Audi would be 100x more refined than the </description>
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		<title>By: Tonyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tonyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 02:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the audi is much more refined than the STi, make no mistake about that!

 i dont think we should complain about the european manufacturers ripping us off.... just think of the price the americans are paying for our ss, oh sorry pontiac

 Would be interesting to see s3 vs r32 vs sti vs evo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the audi is much more refined than the STi, make no mistake about that!</p>
<p> i dont think we should complain about the european manufacturers ripping us off&#8230;. just think of the price the americans are paying for our ss, oh sorry pontiac</p>
<p> Would be interesting to see s3 vs r32 vs sti vs evo!</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 01:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so basically, don&#039;t see the $65k car as audi screwing us or making a car deliberately too expensive, as its priced well for any serious hot hatch in europe, it just doesn&#039;t work well in aus, we don&#039;t spend $65k on a hatchback with wasabi up its backside, not yet at least.

Now that I think about it, this car will be competing with the new WRX STi, if you remove some of the options. WRX STi will be faster, but the audi interior is way nicer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so basically, don&#8217;t see the $65k car as audi screwing us or making a car deliberately too expensive, as its priced well for any serious hot hatch in europe, it just doesn&#8217;t work well in aus, we don&#8217;t spend $65k on a hatchback with wasabi up its backside, not yet at least.</p>
<p>Now that I think about it, this car will be competing with the new WRX STi, if you remove some of the options. WRX STi will be faster, but the audi interior is way nicer.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 01:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>aubz, I&#039;m talking about effective wage. The average wage in Australia is around $50k, so for an australian to spend $50k on a car (I thought the average wage in aus was 40k, hence the upgrade), it is the equivalent of a German spending EUR 33000 on a car, ie one years salary. And in Germany the S3 costs EUR 35150. I understand the EURO is a hell of a lot stronger than the $AUS, (EUR 0.60 to $AUS 1), I&#039;m just saying as a percentage of annual wage it would be the equivalent of us spending $50k (well I said $40k, until I looked up the average wage is Australia, which makes my pay seem rather pathetic). A european buying a european car doesn&#039;t give a shit about the euro-aus exchange rate, the same way on australian buying a locally made or japanese car doesn&#039;t care about it. What they do care about is how much of their salary the car is going to cost, and in that regard, the Audi S3 is the same as a $50k car in australia, and the same applies with all european cars in australia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aubz, I&#8217;m talking about effective wage. The average wage in Australia is around $50k, so for an australian to spend $50k on a car (I thought the average wage in aus was 40k, hence the upgrade), it is the equivalent of a German spending EUR 33000 on a car, ie one years salary. And in Germany the S3 costs EUR 35150. I understand the EURO is a hell of a lot stronger than the $AUS, (EUR 0.60 to $AUS 1), I&#8217;m just saying as a percentage of annual wage it would be the equivalent of us spending $50k (well I said $40k, until I looked up the average wage is Australia, which makes my pay seem rather pathetic). A european buying a european car doesn&#8217;t give a shit about the euro-aus exchange rate, the same way on australian buying a locally made or japanese car doesn&#8217;t care about it. What they do care about is how much of their salary the car is going to cost, and in that regard, the Audi S3 is the same as a $50k car in australia, and the same applies with all european cars in australia.</p>
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