2007 Toyota LandCruiser 200 Series
8 Nov, 2007
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Toyota Australia has released the latest generation of the LandCruiser wagon - the new 200 Series, the vehicle that helped Toyota establish its foothold in the world automotive markets.
The new 200 Series has a stronger body, improved suspension, more powerful V8 engines that use less fuel, and new technology that makes it more capable in all conditions.
The LandCruiser 200 is available in three grades - GXL, VX and Sahara - with two engine choices, both of them V8s.
The first is a new 4.5-litre twin-turbo V8 diesel which lifts power to 195kW and a useful 650Nm - fuel consumption remains relatively low at a comfortable 10.3 litres per100km combined cycle.
Accompanying the diesel is a Euro IV-compliant petrol 4.7-litre V8 engine producing 202kW and 410Nm with fuel consumption at a cringe-worthy 14.5 litre/100km combined cycle.
The updated petrol V8 is matched to a five-speed automatic transmission while the diesel engine is mated to a new six-speed automatic transmission, both featuring a sequential shift that allows the driver to select gears manually.
An all-new chassis structure offers superior strength and rigidity by maintaining a separate frame and body, with an integrated tow bar capable of hauling up to 3500kg.
The 200 Series is 60mm longer and 30mm wider, contributing to the increased interior space, however the adoption of a shorter-format V8 means the bonnet length has been reduced for improved visibility.
An Australian-invented Kinetic Dynamic Suspension System (KDSS) combines two previously contradictory benefits - longer wheel articulation for the most challenging off-road driving and the roll control needed for confident on-road driving.
Another innovation is the world’s first Crawl Control system exclusive to petrol models. It automatically controls the engine and brakes to maintain very low speeds - in forward or reverse - with minimal spinning or locking of the wheels.
Multi-terrain ABS provides the correct brake strategy on dirt, gravel, sand and bitumen whilst Hill-Start Assist Control minimises vehicle roll-back when starting on steep hills or climbing slippery surfaces.
Diesel models will also feature Downhill Assist Control, which controls speed on steep off-road descents.
Vehicle Stability Control and Active Traction Control are now standard across the range with the option for up to 10 airbags.
Also, for the first time for LandCruiser owners, the 200 series will feature a dash-mounted tyre-pressure monitoring system which displays the temperature and pressure of all five tyres (including the spare).
The rugged exterior is matched by interior comfort, where up to eight occupants are catered for with four-zone air conditioning, leather trim as standard on the VX and Sahara and full electric seat adjustment.
An optional fully integrated touch-screen system features a satellite navigation system with DVD mapping, and audio unit that has a six-in-dash CD/DVD player with MP3 capability, and a nine-speaker AM/FM audio unit with Bluetooth functionality.
Smart Entry and Start Smart are standard across the range which allows the driver to enter, exit and start the vehicle without using the ignition key or transmitter button.
The entry-level GXL petrol model begins at $69,990 with a $10,000 premium for the diesel. The Sahara turbo-diesel tops the range at $104,990.
| Petrol | Turbo-diesel | |
| GXL | $69,990 | $79,990 |
| VX | $79,990 | $89,990 |
| Sahara | $94,990 | $104,990 |
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November 8th, 2007 at 11:07 am
I can’t wait for this!
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November 8th, 2007 at 11:41 am
Best 4×4 on the planet, END_OF_STORY
Pity i dont want to pay the $69k to garage one.
Oh well, next year will be $50k
Cheers
F-0
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November 8th, 2007 at 1:05 pm
More contempt from Toyota for the Motoring Public,
Why does the Turbo Diesel cost $10,000 more than the Petrol?
Lets suppose the Petrol Engine costs 8grand are they really suggesting the TD costs 18grand?
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November 8th, 2007 at 1:06 pm
So has it had serious suspension like coil springs to challenge Landrover Discovery that has better 4WD suspension? Me thinks not!
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November 8th, 2007 at 1:09 pm
It’s one thousand dollar premium, not ten (fortunately).
Anyone know why they dropped the 6cyl powerplant? If they are looking at the combined fuel economy figures of 14.5L/100kms I would imagine the straight city driving figure would be up around the 18L mark?
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November 8th, 2007 at 1:16 pm
Naugthyius Maximus Says:
November 8th, 2007 at 1:06 pm
So has it had serious suspension like coil springs to challenge Landrover Discovery that has better 4WD suspension? Me thinks not!
Has the new Kinetic and front and rear std. Torsen [together with T.C.S]
Will kill a Land Rover [Mr.OilLeaks] with ease
Cheers
F-0
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November 8th, 2007 at 1:59 pm
This is an extract from drive.com.au
Toyota LandCruiser 200-Series
4.7-litre petrol V8
Price: $69,990 (GXL), $79,990 (VX), $94,990 (Sahara)
Engine: 4.7-litre V8
Power: 202kW at 5400rpm
Torque: 410Nm at 3400rpm
Transmission: Five-speed automatic
Weight: 2555kg to 2665kg
Towing capacity: 3500kg
4.5-litre twin-turbo V8 diesel
Price: $79,990 (GXL), $89,990 (VX), $104,990 (Sahara)
Engine: 4.5-litre twin-turbo V8 diesel
Power: 195kW at 3400rpm
Torque: 650Nm at 1600rpm
Transmission: Six-speed automatic
Weight: 2630kg to 2730kg
Towing capacity: 3500kg
It shows the price premium for the diesel is $10,000, yet this report states $1000 - which is correct?
I suspect the $10,000 is correct.
Pity that the vehicle is so bloated in VX or Sahara form that the fuel capacity is only 93 litres, whereas in the GLX it is a more sensible 130+ litres. But then to get a GLX Diesel with KDSS you are up for $69990 + 10,000 + 2500 = $82490……OUCH
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November 8th, 2007 at 2:38 pm
“Best 4×4 on the planet, END_OF_STORY”
Only an idiot would say that!!
There is many different roles a 4wd can excel at and the LC200 won’t top them all…
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November 8th, 2007 at 2:50 pm
And such an attractive beast with original styling, to boot! Easily looks 3 times more modern than a Discovery!
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November 8th, 2007 at 3:08 pm
to compare a landcruiser to a discovery is stupidity!! I lived in the Pilbara for 10 years and had 3 landcruisers ranging from an 80 series GXL to a 100 series GXL turbo.. Disco’s came and went up there in a flash as they fell apart.. I wont even go there on the suspension!! Needless to say the GXL cruisers were a little ’soft’ in the rear which was easily fixed with a coil/shock changeover..
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November 8th, 2007 at 3:54 pm
Frugal One Said…
“Best 4X4 on the planet, END_OF_STORY
“Pity i dont want to pay the $69k to garage one.”
“Oh well, next year will be $50k”
Yes Tomas79, only an idiot would say that. That would mean nothing is better than any Landcruser?
Cheers
GF,ITGT
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November 8th, 2007 at 4:07 pm
Fantastic, but pricey. I wouldn’t buy one, but then I wouldn’t buy anything in this category.
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November 8th, 2007 at 4:21 pm
Trackdaze asks “Lets suppose the Petrol Engine costs 8grand are they really suggesting the TD costs 18grand?”
Ring any Toyota service/parts department and ask the question. Yes they do cost that much more to replace.
capncrunnch asks “Anyone know why they dropped the 6cyl powerplant?”
If you are referring to the 6cyl 4.5 motor (petrol). It was dropped as it was unable to comply with Euro iv emissions requirements, it made less power and torque and used more fuel.
If you are referring to the Turbo diesel, The direct injection system was so good by itself that changing to a common rail setup would have not netted any extra power (they made 151kw and 430nm from 4.2li) and would have lowered the compression too far (reducing the crawl capacity of the motor under compression limiting its off road ability).
The Cruiser is the best all round 4wd you can buy. End of story! Now before you Landrover (oil leaks) and Nissan afficinados start screaming down the house. Who sells more?
The public arent that stupid and obviously havent been for the last 55 years when it comes to choosing a vehicle that will last in this environment. The only unfortunate thing is there will be an element of the Private school mum Brigade that will be into a Cruiser quicker than you can say “time for a Latte”.
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November 8th, 2007 at 5:29 pm
I work for a mining company and we own hundreds of vehicles.. 95% of these vehicles are landcruisers.. and the only reason there are a few nissans is because quite regularly toyota cant keep up the supply.. the small numbers of nissans that are bought usually dont last 50 thousand kms before the suspension poops itself and the seals all start leaking..
in saying that we have only just started using hilux’s again as they were banned from site for a number of years due to their ability to rollover in even low speed cornering on gravel roads and pits..
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November 8th, 2007 at 5:58 pm
Yep I know where your coming from Cobra045 ,you know your in a mining town by the sight of white flat trays and cruisers!
I remember when they had a go at using Hummers in Coolgardie for a while,that lasted about 3 months I think.
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November 8th, 2007 at 7:15 pm
Agree with Cobra; have seen evidence of Pilbara breaking Land Rovers too easily. Personally, at 2.7+ tonnes 200 Series is now too big for me, so the item of 4WD desire is the 70 Series GXL wagon - around the 2190kg mark and less of the electronic luxuries, just like my unstoppable 60 Series was. Toyota did well to cater for this part of the market. 200 Series will be the next Toorak Taxi/Cottesloe Chariot of choice as its status is undeniable.
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November 8th, 2007 at 7:39 pm
Getting more and more like Toyota’s ‘Hummer’. I swear there’s no decent reason to make them *that* big and heavy.
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November 8th, 2007 at 8:05 pm
Trouble with the 70 series is you can’t even get a drivers airbag.
Now some fools will say airbags are no good, but those same people doubt the value of seat belts as well.
Not to mention aircon is an extra price option.
You probably have to pay extra to get pumped up tyres…..
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November 9th, 2007 at 7:29 am
Simon SAys”Ring any Toyota service/parts department and ask the question. Yes they do cost that much more to replace”
I dont doubt its a costlier engine to build. But Toyota seemed to be able to offer essentially the same TDV8 in the 70series without anywher near the price premium over the previous TD6 or,,the petrol for that matter. Will they offer a petrol v8 in the 70 for 45grand? think not.
Toyota are able to move the overall pricing of the 200cruiser 10k up because they brought the 4door 70series into the market. It was brought in to mop up the “Ardcore” outback & tourer market so they could price guage the lemings (sorry, toyota diehards) into the luxurious 200 at an inflated price.
So how does it feel to led around by the collar by the toyota marketeers? Just shows the contempt toyota have for the motoring public.
I’ve spent a few days stuck in the bush because of toyotas poor engineering. Cracked lower control arms, reverse cut front diffs & critical bolts that have (by design) a propensity to unwind are some of toyotas gifts to outback tourers. If your buying a toyota hilux or cruiser be prepared to at some time (preferably under waranty)replace the gearbox. twice even.
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November 9th, 2007 at 8:56 am
REPEAT:
“BEST 4×4 On The Planet” Period, Game Over!
Frankly, it could be THE best vehicle on the planet!
PLEASE Toyota sell heaps of them so i can pick one up for $50k next year
Cheers
F-0
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November 9th, 2007 at 9:50 am
Sorry, Land (Range) Rover is better than Toyota, Toyota is way to common. Discovery has won more awards than any other 4 X 4 on the planet so the game didn’t even start..
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November 9th, 2007 at 10:06 am
LAND ROVER DISCOVERY 3: WORLD’S MOST DECORATED SUV
-Winner of over 90 international awards – believed to be a record for any SUV. Exceptional breadth of capability dynamic on-road performance and class-leading off-road Bold and distinctive design that delivers a spacious, versatile and comfortable seven-seat cabin, Improvements for 2008, shown at Geneva Motor Show earlier this year, include revised cabins with wood trim, improved leather and enhanced craftsmanship to increase premium feel
Land Rover’s Discovery 3 is a technology-packed, premium SUV designed to deliver outstanding performance both on the road and off-road. The bold, versatile design is distinctively Land Rover and offers exceptional space, comfort and flexibility, for up to seven adults.
“Since its launch in 2004, the response to the Discovery has been fantastic,” says managing director Phil Popham. “Not only has it been a great sales success but it continues to win major international awards. So far, the Discovery 3 has picked up over 90 international awards such as What Car? (UK) Best Full-Size SUV 2007.
‘As you would expect from a Land Rover, the Discovery 3 is awesome off-road. What may be more surprising to some is its great performance on-road too. The result is the widest breadth of capability in the class.”
EAT DUST TOYOTA……….
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November 9th, 2007 at 10:29 am
Frugal One, you’re obviously as dumb as you sound…
How can it be a best 4×4 on the planet , when there are 4wd much more offroad capable out of the box (such as the Jeep Rubicon)… And even even tourers with better longer ranges….
Also Lets not over exadurate toyota’s reliability….
Nissan Patrols are known to have a tougher drive train (then the 100s)….
And during 2006’s Australian 4wd monthly 4wd of the year competition, the front diff of their LC100 broke…. How can that happen on the unbreakable toyota? When the nissans, Jeeps, land rovers, got through scave free?
By the way I’m not a Toyota knocker, as i have a brand new Prado on order, due around Feb 2008…
And Yeah the LC200 is a nice package, although a bit overpriced and overweight…
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November 9th, 2007 at 10:32 am
“BEST 4×4 On The Planet” Period, Game Over!
Also don’t kid your self…. You only know 4wds, that are sold in australia…
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November 9th, 2007 at 11:03 am
The 100 series has a well known range of reliability problems.
The front diff (a corolla part) breaks easily.
The fan wrecks the radiator in moderate water crossings.
Panhard rod bolts break on moderate gravel roads.
Shock absorbers break on corrugations.
All of these faults were observed during my Cape York drive last year. God knows how many other problems they have had, as we were only on the gravel bits for 3 weeks and saw all of the abovementioned.
My travelling companion’s 60 series broke all 3 engine/gearbox mountings, and all 4 shockers. He has heavy duty leaf springs, and they are not kind to shockers on corrugations, and they weren’t OEM shocks.
My 9 year old Jackaroo suffered no breakages at all, not on the car or the camper trailer (Campomatic). And yes, we went up the OTL.
Got full of dust though, I don’t like to travel with the windows up……
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November 10th, 2007 at 3:24 pm
Despite Toyota claiming “oh, but we’ve introduced new technology”. The fact is the prices have increased dramatically - more than 10% in the case of the Sahara. Funny also that should happen at a time when the Aussie $ has increased in value by more than 40% against the Yen in the last 18 months. And a $10K premium on the diesel: get real Toyota. Toyota has lost me. Time to investigate alternatives.
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November 10th, 2007 at 10:13 pm
I think toyota has go the mix right. The LC is awsome, and despite the rising fuel prices their will allways be a market, because people will always have family’s that want space. I’m 6′3″ and counting, Dad is’nt any smaller and their is simply no other car on the market that can fit us. I take my hat of to Toyota for spoiling the market with choice.
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November 14th, 2007 at 10:04 pm
Ian W has it right, big increase in prices of the LC200 plus a strong $Aust. means the REAL increase in price could be $30,000 or MORE. The only advantage of a strong $Aust. is cheaper imports unless you take into account the greed of the Toyota car company. I now know where the Oh what a feeling gets me.
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December 6th, 2007 at 10:23 am
I own a Discovery 3 and have owned both models of the Series 2 Discovery. I had a great run with my first one and a terrible run with the second one. Historically they have questionable build quality no arguement, but the ride, driving position and technology has always been second to none.
Hill Decent Control, Ride Stability through Active Cornering enhancement, the first 4wd with Dual Air bags you name it.
All Developed by LAND ROVER and copied by the rest.
Now owned by Ford the Build Quality is Better and the Technology is still World Firsts every time. OFF ROAD it can do the Business, there is one in Perth that went straight out of the box to an off road Gymakana and won the open event. The Disco is Capable of raising itself to 310mm to clear an obstacle if it gets grounded what other standard 4wd can do that?
Brit Car in Broome Stopped keeping Landcruisers because they did not last but other people swear by them. Toyota do make a good ride, but they charge like wounded Bulls.
I have seen Patrols with 300,000 mining KMs on them so they are bloody good too.
Buy what you like at the End of the Day.
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December 16th, 2007 at 12:52 pm
as an owner of a vx 200 tdv8 of which replaced my 100 td6 and 7 other previous toyota 4×4s I would like to say those that compare mining vehicles that are driven by allsorts of people that drive them like they stole them( against the people who use them sensibly and go and have some 4×4 fun or tow vans etc) they are would like to be`s if they could afford it or people that are happy driving what they prefer then if you are not jealous why comment on what you know nothing about. as for the l/rover bloke the one i had was like a pommie revenge.
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December 19th, 2007 at 6:17 pm
Jimbo, I’m with you
The price on the Toyota 200 is rather steep but at the end of the day it seems to be the only one to meet my needs of an automatic and diesel to tow a van 2500 weight and leave a little extra power to spare.
The next best would be Nissan Patrol but only gives 2500 tow capacity.
Nissan suggest the possibility of the new Pathfinder with a 3000 tow capacity but the reviews give doubt to stability and reliability.
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December 19th, 2007 at 6:45 pm
The new Land crusiser looks good at the front but does anybody like the rear! And i have seen about 12 of the new 200 series on the highway in the last week!
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January 3rd, 2008 at 12:41 pm
I have ordered my new LC200 4.7l Sahara (Mar08). Regardless of what a Cruiser can or cannot do, it certainly retains a good resale value. Looking at www.redbook.com.au the 2005 Landrover HSE has a resale value of 52.91% (orginal cost $91650) compared with a 2005 LC 4.7l Sahara of 73.26% (original cost $83800). That works out at about $13000 extra for the Cruiser - I would say that compensates for any price increase with little left over for extra’s!!!
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February 7th, 2008 at 6:06 pm
Have a LC 200 v8 petrol after several other LCs over the years. Fantastic. All you other wannabes/dreamers should own one before you slag it off.
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February 9th, 2008 at 8:16 pm
I Work in Warranty for Toyota and two other Manufacturers. And you Cruiser Knockers make me laugh. Anyone that compairs a Patrol to a Cruiser is deluded. Panel beaters tell me how they have to paych Patrol chasis with parts from Toyota. Telstra have a standard chasis crack check sheet “Look here, here and here for the cracks YOU WILL FIND!” I love the “I can’t justify 20+ grand more for a cruiser when a can get a 4 cylinder Patrol cheaper than a 650nm V8 twin turbo cruiser” Go for it mate.
I live in the Kimberley “Landcruiser Land” where Patrols come to die and Landrovers are lucky to reach. Remember Lucas is the Prince of Darkness. The standard headlights on a Landrover have three sttings “Off”, “Dimm” & “Flickering”. Get dust on the dizzy and go no furhter. Two friends with a Disco neally perished up here because their Disco stopped due to dust!
As for the price, if you are smart, you can afford it. Otherwise buy a Patrol.
I had my last cruiser in the Kimberley for 10 years ( I don’t know if a Patrol would last that long in the city) My 200 VX TD arrives this month.
THERE IS NO BETTER ALL ROUND 4WD ON EARTH! If there is, why isn’t it out-selling the soooo expensive Landcruiser.
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February 19th, 2008 at 6:32 pm
Have Auto 80 series 24valve Turbo - like to upgrade, BUT seriously $80,000 for a GXL with less goodies than my 80???? Comments about Aussie $ and Yen are accurate.
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March 6th, 2008 at 11:07 am
Just read all the blogs. My only concern with traveling with my family up the east coast in our Disco3 are the one-eyed Toyota owners. I would hate to break down and find a Toyota pulling up, please don’t break down, please… Apples for apples, horses for courses, let driving be enjoyable out there.
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April 2nd, 2008 at 10:28 pm
I have purchased a new T/L 200 series and have found a few problems that I have emailed Toyota some 4 weeks ago and have yet to receive a reply let alone an acknowledgement. I would have expected a better product for the outlay of $85k++
1. There is a clunking noise coming from the drive shaft when gradually slowing down and gears going from 2nd to 1st and when taking of from a standstill and in particular from 1st to 2nd. Aparently Toyota and there dealers area aware of this problem and consider it systemice to the 200 Series. Their solution at this stage, is to pack the drive shaft in grease to reduce the clunking whilst Toyota - Japan work of a more permanent solution. Interesting to note that seeing the problem is not related to vehicle safety it will not be the subject of a vehicle recall and any solution will be a cost bourne by the consumer.
2. Why they allowed a 4 wheel drive to be built in Australia for the 4 wheel drive fans and not include a 12 volt power socket in the rear. When I was purchasing the vehicle and I raised it with the salesman. His answer was quote, ” I was hoping you didn’t pick that up till you went on your first trip.’ My old Pajero form 7 years ago had (standard) two for the driver/front passenger. 1 in the seat row behind the driver and two in the rear boot compartment.
3. When I was given the ’spiel’ about the vehicle I was informed that it had two batteries as standard and that one battery was soley for the purpose of starting the vehicle and the other was for all the other electrical items. WRONG !!! both batteries are relatively small and are hooked up to run in parallel. Here’s a little test for other owners of a LC 200, disconnect one of your batteries from the parallel system and try and start you vehicle - you may be surprised to find that it is 50/50 as to whether it will start. I cannot wait till ARB develop the fittings for a third battery. Also speak to an automotive electrician about the cost of fitting electric brakes - that’s another story.
All in all very disappointed
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April 6th, 2008 at 6:02 pm
In regards to the above comment posted by Tom Murphy,
1. That is entirely correct, i have recently resigned from Toyota. The actual procedure is to fill the drive shaft with grease whilst in the air, then raise and lower the vehicle to expel excess grease. This noise was most prevalent on the earlier produced vehicles as Toyota Japan carried out this procedure on the later batch’s and we did not see the issue. To have this fixed it should not be a cost you you incur, we used to fix them while you wait at no cost. I could go on, but there is a certain law about deformation that i wish not to cross paths with.
2. Cant really comment on that, in all honesty it should have been something spotted on first inspection.
3. Toyota have a habit of employing salesmen with little to no knowledge of how the product works (I was in the workshop). Hence you get retarded statements as you received. Also, only the diesels had twin batteries. Petrol models only had the one on the passengers side. The amount of times i had to answer the telephone with a customer asking a relatively easy technical question was amazing.
If you require some more guidance as to the technical aspect of your problem, reply again.
Josh
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April 9th, 2008 at 6:48 am
I test drove both the petrol v8 and the twin turbo diesel a few weeks back while visting Oz. I was impressed with the petrol but the diesel blew me away. what a fantastic ride and the power plant is just brilliant. i have owned 60, 80 (TD) and 100 series LCs. this one beats them all by a street!
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April 11th, 2008 at 12:19 pm
Dear all, I have justed sold my 9 year old 6 cylinder 100 series which I lovedand was rarely off road. It has been replaced by the 200 Sahara petrol (Feb 2008 compliance plate). Apart from the fact that the car was keyed by some punk within the first 24 hours, the gloss has worn off the purchase quickly. Toyota has had the car for the last week and a half. I took delivery in Feb and it has only done 600kms. Toyota was asked to investigate a “grating” vibration that can be felt just before the caar changes gear and continues until it reaches cruising speed in the next gear. Whilst Toyota were looking at it, I was given a Kluger with 3000kms on the clock - it was giving me a smoother ride than my Sahara i.e. no vibrations!!!!!!! After a week and a half all Toyota can suggest is that the car is still “bedding down” and they hope that the vibration will disappear. They want to see it at 3000kms - which given that my 100 series only had 94500kms on it after 9 years - could be a while. In the meantime, I will continue to be annoyed every time I drive my car. Anyone else experienced a similar problem?
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April 14th, 2008 at 12:54 am
I collected my 2008 LC200 mid Jauary here in Dubai where the Landcruiser is known as the ‘pride of the land’. It is the world’s largest market for them.
I can honestly say that the previous models stood up well but the new 200 series is a disaster. Faulty audio unit, electrical system malfunctions, broken switches, major transmission failure are the main issues I experienced. The damn thing has only been on the road for around 10 days out of three months. The new LC200 is quite simply a cheap, nasty affair and best kept well away from. In terms of reliability stakes it’s the worst thing I ever bought. The only saving grace is that Toyota have finally agreed to a full refund. As if that’s not admitting failure! Not once did they suggest replacing the vehicle.
I’ve since heard many other similar complaints about the 200 series. My advice is to go and buy something German.
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April 19th, 2008 at 10:25 pm
Chris, Was your’s also a Petrol? I’m just about to purchase the Sahara diesel and I know they have a different transmission over the petrol unit…. You guy’s have got me wondering now!
I really need to tow 3,100kg and have a family car at the end of the day! We’re stepping out of our 9 year old 100 Series which has been flawless!!!
Errr! You guys are messing with my head….
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April 19th, 2008 at 11:08 pm
Plan B, there isn’t much better than a Cruiser if you need to tow that much. I obviously don’t know how much you want to spend, but the VW Toureg is pretty good, particularly the V10. Just had a look for you, v6TD is $75k, v10TD $120k, so either side of where you are looking. Both tow 3500kg.
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April 21st, 2008 at 7:36 pm
My mate just purchased a new 200series and hooked his 3 year old caravan up to it
The clearance lights on the van only worked for a short time and then some overload device in the Toyota wiring tripped and would not work
Auto electrician checked out van wiring and all good
Mate checked with Toyota who claim there is a very small current limit in the Toyota wiring to supply the van and that his van should have LED lights and not the standard globes fitted at present
Bill to convert van to LEDs is currently over $1000 and climbing
Anyone else encountered this problem, or are aware of a fix
With 650NM of tourque the 200 series was always destined to be a great tow vehicle –So if you own a 200 series just make sure whatever you tow has all LED lights and not the standard ones found on many trailers,horse floats and caravans
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April 27th, 2008 at 2:33 am
Plan B, Yes mine was a petrol V6. Complete disaster and I’m hearing many other similar stories. Stay well away from it and take Jbot’s advice - buy a Toureg! I’ve just placed my order for one though it’ll be a V6 not the diesel V10. I also tested a V8 XC90 recently and that was pretty good too. Both the Volvo and the VW are streets ahead of that cheap nasty Toyota affair.
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April 27th, 2008 at 8:14 am
….Still working out what options i have on that Japanese Import 200 as i cant read Kanji…
How could one tell if you had KDSS?
thanks for the great blogs.
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April 27th, 2008 at 4:46 pm
We recently purchased a new Sahara diesel.What a lovely vehicle.I have never paid so much for a lounge chair.With an advertised fuel economy of 10.3l/100km we have not been able to acheive under 12.5 on a trip from Gympie to Yeppoon and back.So far the local dealers comments are errr ahhh etc.
When the engine is reving there is a distinct vibration carried thru the steering wheel.Local dealers comment they all appear to do it.I find it difficult to believe.
Has anybody experienced these issues?
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May 6th, 2008 at 8:38 pm
Have just taken delivery of a 200 VX turbo diesel and after 800km’s am running at 15.6 litres per 100km. Advice is to bring it in for a service when I asked why consumption was 2 to 3 litres worse per 100km for the same travel conditions than the 100 6 cylinder turbo diesel it replaced . Hate to think what it will be when towing. Anyone else having the same experience ?
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May 10th, 2008 at 10:24 pm
Stephenr, my good friend has had a 200 td Sahara for 4 months now and has been getting a shocking 17.4l/100km.He took it back to toyota and they claimed all ok.But as a station owner he has had to carry a 20litre can in the back to get between roadhouses.He has been to turbotech in Perth and they have fitted a new chip in the engine which has improved his economy to 14.2l/100km.He was thinking of selling it previous to that as he only has a 90 litre capacity
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May 10th, 2008 at 11:04 pm
Dave - i live at Tannum Sands/Boyne Island and know the highway you mentioned extremely well.
This stretch is particularly busy especially with trucks that are common in numbers and so is overtaking practices so i guess my assumption would be that your friend is involved with quite a bit of overtaking.
That said - i own a diesel 200 series Cruiser and have no idea about the vibration you speak off… please explain further as i have been a Cruiser driver of different models for many years.
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June 5th, 2008 at 3:50 pm
Just purchased a 200 series Petrol Sahara. Now has 8000km on clock.
Overall I love it, but some problems,
1. Clunk in Drive Train as previously mentioned. Dealer says Toyota working on it.
2. No power outlet in back.
3. Where do you put the second spare key when you go away.
Car won’t lock when the second key in car, so I have to carry it with me everywhere.
I replace my cruiser every 2 years and have had every one from the 80 series. Usually do 80,oookm in those 2 years, at least on poor quality rural roads with lots of corrugations. I have been thinking hard but cannot recall having a single repair or breakdown in all that time.
The new 200 Series is the best so far over rough roads. My only criticism, and it is probably just a matter of getting used to it, it that the steering is very sensative when centralised so need to concentrate more than usual, as a small deflection of the wheel results in a large departure of the vehicle.
Finish of my car is very good. Very occassionly get this fine vibration from the engine transmitted through the steering column as someone else noted but very infrequent.
Oh one other criticism, not sure if it is just too complex and I have not got it figured, but the Climate Control does some weird things, such as cold air to the front but hot air in one of the rear vents at the side of the seat, even on a hot day.
Also can’t remove the rear seats now without a spanner.
Also very little space in the centre consul above the huge and wonderful fridge.
Cheers
John
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June 10th, 2008 at 6:38 pm
Just purchased 200 VX diesel (Feb 2008 plate) after 5 Patrols in a row. Wow, beatiful ride , cruises at 11L/100. I’m in flat country NW Vic so can trick it into 6th at 115 and then back off to 105 and roll on at the 10.3 quoted. BUT:
1. The “grating” vibration as reported by others is driving me nuts. Toyota tried to tell me it was due to bull bar and winch upsetting balance but I can see thats rubbish.
2. Also getting the clunk from time to time. Sometimes more like a slip in takeup.
3. Gear changes not smooth - in very slight undulations seems too sensitive.
4. Watch out for this one!. Woke up this morning to find all windows and sun roof open after rained all night. Apparently must have sat on key. Press the unlock for 2 seconds and windows open. What the??
My Goodness, what have I done, $100,000 plus.
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June 10th, 2008 at 7:09 pm
……and I gave to Farm Aid so you can turn over Landcruisers?
I suppose if u can’t trade them every year things must be tough in the bush.
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June 11th, 2008 at 5:51 pm
Realcars, keep up the good work. You have made a wrong assumption however, I’m not a farmer just successful businessman pissed off that I have spent a lot of money on what could be a major problem.
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June 14th, 2008 at 11:25 pm
Hi i have recently purchased a l/c 200 gxl turbo diesel did 300klms and the fuel pump has gone. After waiting
1 week for the car it has been fixed and toyota tell
me that this is a first. No support from Toyota at all
no communciation from service dept and no car loan offered. I found out the car was ready by ring every day
to see what is happening. Want to know if anyone else
has had fuel pump problems. Car stopped at 120klms on
highway and just shut down. Feel ripped off as car has had
major work done already and dosen’t feel like new car.!!!
no happy at all with this car. Leanne
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June 26th, 2008 at 12:40 pm
Thinking about buying LC200 petrol cruiser but am conserned about excessive fuel consumption. Can anyone tell me real world figures for city and country driving?
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June 26th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
Hi Craig,
My 200 sahara is petrol.
Fuel consumption driving normally in peak hour is about 18 l/100km.
Driven hard around town 20+ is possible.
Driven more carefully than any normal person can sustain 17 l/100km.
However on the highway, it improves a lot.
At 110km/hr about 14 l/100km. Over 110km/h really starts to chew juice again.
John
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July 1st, 2008 at 9:19 am
Thanks John, I appreciate your feedback.
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July 15th, 2008 at 8:30 am
I bought a diesel 200 series in December 2007. I have owened several other L/cruisers over the last 35 years.
1. For the price, I am a bit disapointed at some of the refinements that have been deleted from the 200 series compared to my last 100 series.
2. There are a couple of serious issues I am not happy with. Oil and fuel consumption.
3. Toyotas claim that 1 litre of oil consumed per 1000 km travelled is acceptable. Well really???????? Not for me it is not. Fuel consumption of 10.3 per 100 km. “Yeah right”
3. I have fixed the oil consuption isuue. The fix is very simple. I know what is causing the excessive fuel consumption. I do not have the computer skills to fix the fuel consumplion problem (its to do with the gearbox) but I have achieved 10 litres per 100 km from my vehicle.
4. The sad thing is, Toyota have not had the time to reply to my email which raised my concerns with my vehicle. The local dealer, from whom I purchased the vehicle has been ok but their hands are tied by Toyota and are in the dark as the rest of us.
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July 16th, 2008 at 1:21 pm
My new 2008 200 series landcruiser gxl Turbo Diesel fuel pump failed at 1,550 kms. The car is off the road for 10 days.
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July 22nd, 2008 at 11:43 pm
I have just returned from a cross-country trip in my new (April 08) TD 200 Series. I took it from Perth to Cape Byron NSW via blacktop then across the centre, including the Simpson and Gibson Deserts - which are possibly the roughest roads most folk would take their cruiser - to Steep Point WA. It was a demanding test on any vehicle and a great reliability check for this new model.
The 200 performed magnificently. It’s got awesome power in the dirt. Problems encounted were very few. The only mechanical problem being a leak in the power steering (yet to be fixed). A fair amount of dust entered the vehicle on the thousands of kilometres of dry dusty roads which is also very disappointing. Dust seems to enter mainly through the internal door handle areas and other odd places around the rubber door seals. My old 80 series had less dust in it from 10 years of bush work than the 200 series in just 3 weeks in the bush. I’m sure Mr Toyota won’t be interested in this matter. I’m tempted to think the 200 is the world’s most expensive vacuum cleaner.
Fuel consumption was about 15 litres per 100km which wasn’t bad considering the load and terrain. Toyota tells me these TDV8’s won’t be worn in until about 30,000km.
Cruising in 6th gear at 120kph in the NT saw only 1800 revs. That’s amazing! For most of the trip it never went higher than 5th, but I was well loaded up with gear.
The 200 has been a mixed bag. Fantastic power and ride, but disappointing dust seals. It’s now got 15,000+km on the clock and it’s got to last me a long time. I’m confident that it’s a tough truck, but not perfect. I’m a bit disappointed, but not regretful.
I will be interested to hear of others’ experiences in dusty conditions.
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July 24th, 2008 at 8:32 am
I’d like to know what Jeffrey did to reduce oil consumption. If you can respond I’d love to hear it as my V8TD also burns a bit of oil - more than I thought it should.
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July 24th, 2008 at 7:39 pm
is there any reason to have second thoughts re purchesing a 200td lc
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July 24th, 2008 at 7:52 pm
toyota says oil cons is ok 1 liter per8000 km.gear box being 6 speed they claim that it has 2 not 1 overdrive gears being 5th and 6 th ie 6th only gets used on flat easygoing weather and during cruise control. vibration they say may be the diesel engeen vibration normal fuel consumption any where from 11 to16 liters per 100 toyota says 10.3 is only a comparitve guide. power for trailer has been upgraded from35 watts to 80 watts.Internal memos show that they know about the bad press re 6 speed transmition ie toyota also engeen oil usage
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July 24th, 2008 at 8:00 pm
re clunk in drive they are aware and said that it was not enough greas in the telescopic drive shaft if any one has new problems let us know perhaps the german somthing should be considerd i must say i have always liked lc
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July 31st, 2008 at 12:23 pm
Regarding the dust.
I have recently returned from a trip across the Simpson also and can verify that my 200 series let in an extraordinarily large amount of dust, but as a temporary measure, have solved the problem.
Use Eectrical tape to tape up the water drains in the doors and tailgate. Obviuosly they need to be removed once the trip is over or in wet weather, but that completely stopped dust coming in.
Interesting that this problem occurred whatever the air circulation settings. I thought that + pressure was supposed to be generaed in the cabin to keep dust out.
John
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July 31st, 2008 at 1:40 pm
Firstly…for those of you complaining about the fuel economy on your diesels…try running it in properly.
This means letting the engine get to operating temperature, and then driving the car (during the first 5000kms at least) through the ENTIRE RPM range and varying the load as much as possible. Dont be lazy with the car and the car wont learn to be lazy. (so in other words forget fuel consumption for the first 5000kms and drive it like you stole it - ask any diesel mechanic and they’ll tell you the same thing).
This in turn will rectify anybody who is burning oil (you’re glazing the bores from a lack of load).
For the other teething issues…
Its a brand new model and you brought the first ones off production. Expect it from ANY manufacturer.
If the clunk is driving you mad (Toyota are working on it), for a temporary fix (without resorting to re-greasing the driveshaft every 5 minutes) try pressing the power switch next to the gear selector. This will also help you with the running in procedure as it holds gears under load for a bit longer.
For those of you not happy with your dealer…The lowest price doesnt necessarily mean the best deal. Listen to your salesmans answers and if he doesnt know what he’s talking about you can expect to be suprised with mis-information later on - I’ll bet you he’ll have an answer to any objection you may have about buying a car, but struggles to relate the features of the vehicle back to your needs.
For those of you not happy with missing features (height adjustable drivers seat, no power outlets in the rear or the fixed rear seats etc) - You brought the first batch of vehicles destined for a ten year model run. Toyota have and will make adjustments to the vehicle over the life of the model run as it becomes viable. They just dont do it too quickly as it hurts resale.
If you want to know if your GXL TD 200 has KDSS or not, fill the tank. If it stops at 90litres it has KDSS, if it goes to 138 it doesnt…or you can look for the ‘ram’ just above the front swaybar in the left hand wheel arch. ‘Ram’ equals KDSS.
The 200 series is selling well and is truly a vehicle designed for this country. If you want to go down the Euro path. Look carefully into service costs and resale figures and just think to yourself “If something does go wrong in the bush, Will VW, Audi or Volvo have the ability to get me back on the road?”
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August 1st, 2008 at 8:58 pm
My mate purchased a 70 series V8 cab chassis, delivered in June. Guess what, fuel pump failed 1100km on the clock. Started playing up not long after delivery. It seems this is going to be a problem for Toyota as this particular dealer had already done a couple of 200 series cruisers. Imagine what the total is now across the country.
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August 6th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
Fenno, when I pay almost $100,000 for a vehicle I expect it to work properly, and at least, have all the features of the previous model.
John
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August 6th, 2008 at 3:25 pm
As do I John…But that is how Toyota have always done it. New models always miss a few things from the previous series. It gives them something to update through the 10 year model cycle…
Just remember that if you had have spent 100k on a LandRover you might be in for a few more nasty surprises that you would have in the Cruiser…especially with the service costs and it’s resale in a few years time.
Correction on what I said about the fuel capacity on KDSS equiped GXLturbos. They all have 138 litre tanks, so look for the ram above the sway bar inside the LH wheel arch if you’re not sure.
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August 6th, 2008 at 3:46 pm
All Landcruisers go clunk,bang,thump through the gears.LOL.
Extras well u will have to be stung in that department after all it is a Toyota. No free rides at Toyota.LOL.
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August 6th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
If it is any consolation u will be able to flatten a Yaris like a milk bottle top if one gets in the way.Possibily already know this though.
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August 11th, 2008 at 9:05 am
After lots of discussion with Toyota that a fuel consumption range of 15.4 to 17.5 L/100km was not what was expected for a 200TD Landcruiser (and having it explained to me by everyone from sales to service and the call centre that fuel consumption is a function of driver behaviour and road conditions and having the computer downloaded and sent for analysis) lo and behold the problem is a faulty fuel pump which now having been replaced is producing consumption rates of between 10.5 and 11.5, much more reasonable
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August 12th, 2008 at 5:26 pm
I have a TD200 with 11,000k’s. Have owned other cruisers from mid 80’s. Love the car. Consumption good around 10.5/100 on trips and 16 around town.
Recently have noticed severe vibrations trhough body of car at speeds from 95 to 125. Have had alignment and all wheels balanced at Pedders with not much change. Spoke to Pedders after a drive of 900ks and rechecked alignment and balance. no problems but vibrations continue. Any body with a similar experience.
Bit scary with a 3 ton caravan and the car takes off down hill after stopping if I am not quick on to the brake. Dealer has done some work on this and at first the problem went but it is now reappearing.
I also find it difficult to reverse
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August 25th, 2008 at 11:36 am
Fuel Failure, New Landcruiser 200 TTDV8 MAR08) - has just gone back to Toyota for a 2nd time with the car stopping operation due to Fuel Supply failure. Dealer has been excellent, but cannot help feel nervous with several large inland trips planned. 1st fix only lasted 3 weeks with car off road for 8 days, now car has been gone for 5 days with no advise in site as to when it will be returned.
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August 25th, 2008 at 7:20 pm
Hi, Have just bought a new LC200 diesel and yes it also kept stalling mid-journey. Apparently it is the 6th diesel LC200 it has happened to (although that could just be Sydney). Apparently there was a dodgy batch of fuel pumps, which they were aware of during fabrication of the vehicles, but as they were already in production they just installed them in the vehicles anyway. My dealer is repairing it under warranty but hs had it for a week and still not fixed. Appalling after sales service and no one there seems to give a flying cr@p!! Did anyone else buy from Stewart Toyota Sutherland and have had the same issue?
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September 1st, 2008 at 7:46 pm
Hi Kirsten, Our lc200 diesel fuel pump went 3 days after
delivery, Our dealer was ok had it for 2 weeks and replaced the fuel pump. Since then we have had no problems. Toyota Australia’s regional manager wipped his hands of us and wanted to know nothing about it. Our dealer
was ok. Purchased car from Peter Kittle in Port Lincoln SA. Have since heard about the faulty fuel pump’s but Toyota wanted nothing to do about it. Live in Darwin and
won’t take car bush as unsure of making it home. Buying this car gave us great headaches for the first 3 weeks
by the time of getting it back it didn’t feel like a new car anymore.. especially having such major work done at only 300 klms…
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September 1st, 2008 at 9:14 pm
So there are a few Landcruiser owners having reliability problems.. However; It just like the handful of Toyota Fans on this site [that is 1] it appears Toyta themselves are choosing to ignore the fact that their cars are of the same “average” build quality as their competition and that they too breakdown hoping that it will all go away.. Typical!
Minfd you Toyota have always said that the Landcruiser is King OF The Road…. NOT…. King OFF The Road.
Which implies that either Toyota knew or have since realised there are better Full Size 4×4s out there which are much more capable and reliable when it comes to dealing with rocks and dirt etc - For instance How many Times has a Pajero won the Paris to Dakar?
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September 1st, 2008 at 10:19 pm
Wheelnut your still having trouble realising that Toyotas are more relaible then many other vehicles, including Fords. Youd have to be delusional to think the reputation Toyotas have gained throughout the entire world, particularly the landcruiser, is incorrect based on a handful of negative posters out of a hundreds of thousands of satisfied owners. But that is the difference, you will use this kind of thing to support your claims while we will use statisitcs based on samples of thousands to support our claims. Blind freddy can tell which is more reliable.
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September 1st, 2008 at 10:29 pm
Agree Wheelnut Toyotas have problems like any other marque.
They do wear out and have to be maintained like anything else on the road.
More anecdotal evidence from TP.LOL.
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September 1st, 2008 at 10:41 pm
Golly, this doesn’t look too good. Still, no car’s perfect.
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September 1st, 2008 at 11:30 pm
Paris to Dakar wins are no better than saying your car is F1 inspired technology. Marketing gimmicks.
I do believe Toyota are reliable but I don’t think its ‘godly’ reliable.
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September 2nd, 2008 at 12:00 am
TP sound’s like Dingo, Geeeeeeez I feel delusional and “floored” I mean flawed after reading his stupid comments… All Toyota fan’s and thier boring, bland car’s have lost reputation for being the most reliable on the planet, reports all the world are showing Toyoda having reliability issues, the cracks have widen big enough to see others are catching up, especially Ford…
Toyoda’s are not that relaible, I mean “reliable”, just brainwashed people thinking they are..
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September 3rd, 2008 at 8:19 pm
you non belivers the lc 200 handles drives like the wind ours has travelld 1400 km at 12.5 ltrs to the 100 km we love it as for fuel pump problems make sure u r buying real diesel fuel oil not paint thinners i have seen a sample of fuel bought at yass and it damaged a lc fuel system it was not diesel read your manual from front to back page biodisel more than 5% is not allowed and some fuels being sold have paint thinners added the old 100 series inj system ran at apprx 650 psi the new common rail runs at 2600 psi much more efficient and delicate also idle your turbo after long drives to cool down the twin turbos ps read your manual it advises to idle eng to cool turbos . i love it it is a safe car,fast car,very confy to be in
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September 3rd, 2008 at 8:53 pm
For 75 k plus u would think Toyota could spring for a Turbo timer if this warming down period is so critical to it’s longitivity.LOL.
Sounds like u have to baby these things. Hardly the right image for the “King off the road”LOL.
My aren’t we particular about the fuel we use.
U might have to buy Toyota approved diesel available in 10 litre containers from your local Toyota Dealer.LOL.
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September 3rd, 2008 at 8:58 pm
How can u ensure that the diesel is up to Landcruiser standard?
Don’t waste your time and buy something else.LOL.
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September 3rd, 2008 at 9:01 pm
16L/100KLMS ON DIESEL AND U ARE HAPPY.LOL.
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September 3rd, 2008 at 9:55 pm
Build quality has definately slipped on all Toyota models compared to 10 years ago. What about the Hilux bonnet catch recall! Breaking at speed and the bonnet flying up and flattening on the windscreen - nice! Or the relay rod in the steering breaking and causing total lack of steering! Or the 100 series exploding front diff and front discs frequently working loose? These are only a few examples to illustrate the point, there are many more…
At the end of the day all vehicles will have faults, we are only human, but as usual the one or two fella’s on this site won’t allow anyone to say anything other than Toyota’s are perfect. Which clearly they are not.
What they are though is unquestionably over priced, especially the 200 series.
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September 3rd, 2008 at 10:34 pm
Ditto Millatime.
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September 30th, 2008 at 10:52 pm
Iam a 200TD owner this is the first Landcruiser I have owned having had Patrols since 1982 the last being a 2002 3l turbo. It leaves the patrol for dead as a vehicle to drive in every way but thats were it ends.
Tailshaft clunk, 3 litres of oil between services, vibration through steering column, let in more dust after a 30k run on the dirt north of Kalgoorlie than all my patrols in all the time I had them and to top that cost a truck load more to buy. Only problem I had with the patrols was a rattle in a shim in the airbag system in the 3L.
All that said I love the car it is a pleasure to drive and am about to take it for its next service and will be expecting to see these problems fixed.
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October 1st, 2008 at 10:18 am
Good luck Hendo getting the annoying vibration through the steering wheel fixed. See my April comments. The car went back to Toyota at 3000kms as requested and you guessed it, the vibration was still there when I collected it. I have been informed that this vibration is “characteristic” of the 200 petrol series and is more noticeable in those that have woodgrain finishes. I was allowed to drive a petrol GLX to compare it to my Sahara - and yes, the vibration was there too. I drove a diesel and it wasn’t there!!! A report has been put into Toyota Japan but unless enough of us complain about it, it is unlikely that Toyota will look to develop a fix.
I look forward to hearing how you go with getting the vibration fixed.
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October 2nd, 2008 at 8:48 pm
I have the 2008 200 series GXLTD (diesel). After having the fuel pump replaced at about 1500km I was somewhat dubious about this car, however there have been no problems since and it is very hard not to like it.
Around town (Darwin) it delivers just under 12L/100km which is pretty good but on the open road it is much better. For a long trip (down to Adelaide) 6th gear is wonderful and brings the revs way down - although I notice that there is a band between 100-120kph where the car does not want to drop into 6th gear (it being very happy with 5th). After driving the car all day in 5th gear (around 3,000 revs) on a long trip the fuel consumption was terrible and there was also noticeable engine oil usage. However the following days we encouraged the car into 6th gear by initially driving a little faster and then dropping back the speed – the car would stay in 6th gear between the 100-120km range – with this there was no observable engine oil consumption and fuel economy was fantastic, revs being at about 1800.
A great touring car and good for a family of six!
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October 8th, 2008 at 1:33 pm
This is only a hunch but I think the vibration is actually resonance coming from the exhaust system.
John
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October 15th, 2008 at 10:58 pm
Have read all above. Own a L/C 200 GXL diesel and am pretty happy (Perth based). Done only 7000kms. Vibration through steering id’ed in handbook. Not overly intrusive. Fuel consuption about 10.8 on long drives and 14.0 around town. Very dissappointed that still no concensus on 3rd battery placement for powering fridge etc. Gear take-up at low speed does produce clunks in transmission, Toyota said they packed trans/shaft with grease as a fix. Still no better. Thanks for the tip on keeping out dust. I find that ARB and ORE are both floundering when it comes to conversions etc. So I’ll just wait until there is a concensus. I do a fair bit of travelling, there are few “4wd service centres” around the country, but many “Toyota service centres”. I really need a reliable electrical system to run my fridge, compessor etc, so how about it Toyota! Brian.
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October 24th, 2008 at 6:58 pm
Purchased 200 series petrol in January 2008. Went back to dealer with driveline clunk in the first week. Toyota told them to greese the tailshaft, but did not fix the problem. It went back 3 more times in the first month for same fix but the problem still persists 10 months later. removed all rear seats for a Canning stock route trip in june, taped over all holes in floor to make dust proof. Drove with air con on for the whole trip (8500ks) to keep out dust but failed to do so. Havn’t had that much dust enter a 4×4 since my FJ40 35 years ago, realy pissed off.
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October 29th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
Kevin,
Something I did not mention in my post on Dust (and this may not have applied in your situation) is that I removed the third row of seats to gain extra space. Even though the bolt holes looked like they ended in a sealed metal compartment, the dust got in through them, until I realised and sealed the holes with tape also.
Cheers
John
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October 29th, 2008 at 2:43 pm
Further to the driveline clunk.
Mine still does it although greatly reduced after greasing.
I have been told that it depends somewhat on how it is regreased. Apparently you put the car onto a hoist, grease it, put the weight back on it, and then put it on the hoist and regrease.
This is just “pub” gossip, so know idea if this is correct.
I was looking at some USA forums, and they have the same trouble as we do, with the “clunk”. They are also being told the same thing, about greasing, but some are posting that Toyota replaced some components and the problem is fixed. Also no idea how reliable this info is.
John
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October 31st, 2008 at 12:58 pm
I have had a 2008 VX Petrol 200 since May, and other than that clunk, cannot say there is one problem with the car and the dealer has been excellent. Economy is outstanding, having manged to get 12L/100 on a trip from Gympie to Barradine NSW and back sitting around 110km/hr. The car had done 12,000kms, and constantly averages 16 to 18 round town not driven gently and anywhere from 12 to 14 on the highway. Much better than expected. Traded a series 2 Discovery TD on it. Love the the Cruiser, but each to their own.
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November 8th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
Reference ‘clunking’. Toyota have issued a Technical Service Bulletin (TSB) that refers to this problem. The TSB was issued around mid year. The solution is to replace the driveshaft assembly. Info on this TSB can be found by doing a google search on ‘Toyota TSB’. Most of the hits are in the USA but are applicable to Australia as well. A good website is ih8mud.com and look for the forum on 200 series landcruisers.
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November 8th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
Further to my last, type in ‘toyota 2008 landcruiser tsb’ in google. Go to page 2 and look towards the bottom for ih8mud forums.
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November 8th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
hahaha I want to know how the hell is grease going to fix a drive line clunk? Its due to too much backlash . Nice try Toyota!
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November 8th, 2008 at 1:52 pm
Amongst several TSB’s for the 200 series, there is also a one refering to the ‘Smartkey’system. Not sure what that one is about.
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November 8th, 2008 at 8:58 pm
Being of lesser means than some I read with interest the comments on 200 series, I still own an update 80 series on gas! however through work have driven all the commercial series of cruisers since the HJ45’s through 79’s and 100’s,and a fair smattering of the competition.I will stick with the cruisers, next a low mileage 105 standard diesel, having said that I converted my 80 series petrol to LPG in 2001 something Toyota discourages and at 300,00 KLm on the clock have just returned from Victoria River via Katherine back to Kyogle 6900k without using a drop of oil or coolant, a fair bit of fuel admittedly, 4.4km/l gas 5.7 on PULP) but no dust leaks, great air cond in 38 degree heat, my point, I do think that models get better in the production run and also that it is still hard to beat the petrol 80’s auto’s for sheer reliability and build quality. The equivilent year Patrols and Landrovers were dust traps by comparison. This LC drives dirt everyday (on farm)and tows, regular good quality oil changes, only repairs since new 1 starter motor clutch drive recently,4 universals, 1 wheel stud, replace radiator and waterpump as precaution at 280k.
Yep I’ll be buying another L/C but it’ll be a second hand ex gov carefully pawed over before purchase.
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November 12th, 2008 at 9:58 pm
Having owned a 200VX TD for 2 months I came to this site after searching for ‘resonance’ or vibration in the steering wheel. It’s driving me to distraction to the point of selling the vehicle. Dealer can’t notice it…..
Apart from that, I have the clunk. Greased but it has reappeared. Haven’t tested the dust sealing yet.
If the steering wheel resonance was cured, it would be a great vehicle.
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November 17th, 2008 at 2:20 pm
Luv these notes & anecdotes. My humble 1994 Nissan diesel from WA Blue Ragged last year. Tows 2500kg Van, albeit slow uphill.Still going strong. Nissan let its true believers down tho. Waltzed into dealer expecting to see its answer to the 200 series.Some answer, eh. But ten grand extra for a diesel elsewhere.?? Perhaps the credit crunch will see a lowering of prices & sell more. Perhaps not.
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November 22nd, 2008 at 11:50 am
Have just driven two petrol GXL’s from dealers in western Sydney. The first one with a build date of 02/08 had the vibration mentioned in earlier posts. Even my partner, who is not tuned to the sensitivies of cars, noticed it. The salesman wouldn’t comment but I suspected he knew there were problems. The second one had a build date of 09/08 and it didn’t seem to be there. However, the problem was that the dealers would only let me take them on a very short test drive through the suburbs at about 80km/h top speed. These tend to mask problems which might be more obvious when driven on a highway. When asked if I could do a freeway run, the answer was a flat no. When you try and hide something, it then often becomes very apparent.
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December 21st, 2008 at 12:36 am
Purchased L/C 200 GXL Turbo Diesel in May after having Patrols & am honestly disappointed. Had fuel pump & injector replaced in July, been in to have “clunking” fixed in November & now warning lights are indicating a malfunction with brakes or 4WD system. It hasn’t even done 5000kms. Has anyone else had this last issue?
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