Oh what a feeling - rear-drive performance Camry
2 Nov, 2007
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It seems Toyota has acknowledged consumer demands and produced a rear-wheel drive high performance version of the Camry - with a twist.
Alas this Camry-sourced drag car, which can reach speeds of up to 354km/h and covers the 0-100km/h sprint in under a second has little in common with the roadgoing car of the same name.
The Camry drag car is the quickest in its class in Australia and will tackle the quarter-mile in less than 6.5 seconds thanks to its 3.2-litre 1342kW inline six-cylinder Toyota 2JZ turbocharged engine.
Queensland-based driver Tony Wedlock admits he is overawed by the performance of the Camry.
He describes it as an “absolute animal of a car” - not a phrase one often hears from Camry drivers.
Now if they could only make it street legal…
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November 2nd, 2007 at 3:06 pm
Now there’s a TRD.
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November 2nd, 2007 at 3:23 pm
This is just a race-bred drag car. It doesn’t reflect on any road Camrys that you buy at the Toyota dealer.
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November 2nd, 2007 at 3:25 pm
Should have made it FWD haha. 3.2L getting 1300kw… what those HSV and FPVs get again? LOL
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November 2nd, 2007 at 3:27 pm
I think you’re missing the humour of the article there Going Ford.
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November 2nd, 2007 at 3:28 pm
Hahah Going Ford straight onto the defence. Although this vehicle obviously has alot of work done to it. guess what, the 2JZ is the engine you see in street legal Toyotas! Do you see the V8 supcar engines in your HSV or FPV? NO! From this perspective I find your comment funny.
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November 2nd, 2007 at 3:37 pm
Oh and mind you have a look around YouTtube, you will find many Supras with this 2JZ, street legal… that do the quarter mile in 8s!! This article might be a joke at Toyotas expense, but I think to the contrary when you put it in perspective it shows how great their engines actually are, they dont need to change engines in racing applications.
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November 2nd, 2007 at 3:48 pm
haha would be brilliant.. but just try and imagin trying to reverse park in this….:P:P
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November 2nd, 2007 at 3:56 pm
Supras are nothing to do with Toyota in Australia Paul, because they not on the market anymore.
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November 2nd, 2007 at 4:01 pm
Oh Paul idiot/loner. You say Going Ford is in defence, you the only one who trys to defend Toyota and makes a fool of your self.
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November 2nd, 2007 at 4:04 pm
Question: Could this drag car be perceived as a bit of an insult to longtime Toyota fans? Hungering for a genuine performance car from Toyota like the days of old (some of you might argue that the TRD Aurion fills that category suitably, I don’t know), they’re forced to watch Toyota pulling out things like this, as if somehow someone’s gonna say “Wow, Toyotas are awesome, I’m totally gonna get a Camry now!”.
Alternatively, could this be Toyota Australia’s way of demonstrating/pleading to Japan HQ the need/desire for a RWD Toyota of some descrupshun here in the west?
Sure, it’s probably just a bit of fun and a means to get a bit more exposure for the TRD brand, but really, as I said above, what good exposure is a RWD drag car—with little from an actual Camry—going to give them? One might say it’s a sign of their engineering ability, but fuck, if it’s just going into a big FWD saloon, how much use is it?
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November 2nd, 2007 at 4:07 pm
Ive highlighted previously but you obviously have a thick skull, I am reactionary while you Ford faries are proactive in your attacks. Here, Going Ford has come in and essentialyl had a go at Toyota as usual… now Im highlighting the irony, vehicles such as the Supra (You say its older… so an older engine performs well, your point!? LOL) are just as fast and these are production vehicles… with the same engine this race car has. Meanwhile HSV and PFV need new engines from their 6L and 5.4L production vairatns to race in V8 supercars which had in comparison to this vehicle and even modded Supras on the streets a pitiful amount of power and acceleration.
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November 2nd, 2007 at 4:12 pm
Paul you are #1 D-HEAD EVER BEEN ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH AND A HOLLOW SKULL WHO KNOWS LITTLE ABOUT ANYTHING OTHER THAN SPROOKING ON ABOUT TOYMOTOR **** BEEN RELIABLE! YOU HAVE THE BEHAVUOR OF A 10 YEAR OLD THATS JUST BEEN BRAIN-WASHED BY DUMBARSE PARENTS. NO, MAYBEY FROM A MENTAL WARD, HEY?
P.S. Had to say it again because you still don’t get the message.
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November 2nd, 2007 at 4:16 pm
Once again Paul, you are misguided. The V8 Supercar series still uses the old LOWER TECH 5L V8s for parity purposes as all the groundwork is already done, and it keeps the costs down for the teams! It would all get too hard to keep a competitive series with the 5.4L & 6.0L engines from Ford and Holden respectively.
LOL, and Paul, I can guarantee that the only thing this drag camry shares with a normal 2JZ is the block!! You must be really silly if you think otherwise!! ha ha
And if I recall correctly there
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November 2nd, 2007 at 4:16 pm
Yes Im the child… sometimes the truth hurts mate, but it looks like not only is Toyota more reliable but they design better engines. Power per L:
Ford : 55.5kw per L
Toyota : 406kw per L
Hahahahaha
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November 2nd, 2007 at 4:18 pm
Finaly admited that Toyotas not that good after all!
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November 2nd, 2007 at 4:19 pm
Ross…
1. You got any sources for those V8 supercar claims? (Im nitpicking now)
2. It is a joke in relation to this drag car… but as I said modded Supras are nearly as quick, are street legal and have the same engine.
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November 2nd, 2007 at 4:23 pm
Gee. Seems like a white pointer shark attack on him. Either that or paranha fish - any carcass left……….LOL
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November 2nd, 2007 at 4:24 pm
Paul, you said the V8 supercars are 5.4L & 6.0L, they not related to those engines, they around 5.0L. The engines used in V8s are developed by there teams e.g. Stone Brothers e.t.c.
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November 2nd, 2007 at 4:25 pm
Where did I say that Going Ford? Ross you going to pick him up on that misquoting? I said that the FPV and HSVs use those engines, but V8 supercars dont. Meanwhile the 2JZ, an engine used in production Toyotas in the past, is used in this case for racing.
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November 2nd, 2007 at 4:28 pm
Umm Paul, you obviously do not ever watch the V8 Supercar series on Tv do you?
It is mentioned time and time again by the commentators…
In fact the whole reason for the 5L engine with regards to cost containment and parity was even the subject of an entire 1 hour show on V8 Superstars!
(Btw Paul, I think you missed my post to you in the Corolla Supercharged thread.. it was awaiting moderation :) )
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November 2nd, 2007 at 4:30 pm
I believe Ford and Holden both use cast-iron 5L blocks (part of the rules). I’ll need to double check that.
They put out anywhere in the region of 620HP I think it was.
Clearly that Camry’s a drag car though, you wouldn’t build a V8 supercar with that much power, as it would be impossible to get round the track.
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November 2nd, 2007 at 4:31 pm
Geez the commentators, who’s jobs rely on V8 supercars, spin up something about fairness. I think its because they know their production engines are shyte, look at the LS’ for example; piston slapping, oil guzzling engine mount ripping engine with 300kw, how you think it will go when you whack another 150kw onto it and thrash the crap out of it!
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November 2nd, 2007 at 4:38 pm
Are you joking Paul????
I sincerely hope so!! It has nothing to do with the reliability of the LS1! It’s the LS1 CRATE motors that are at fault woth piston slap etc etc! Not the LS1 design itself!
The ONLY reasons for using the 5L are for cost containment and parity!!
You cannot argue on this point! It has been known for years and years the reason they stick to the old 5L engine!!
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November 2nd, 2007 at 4:41 pm
In case you don’t understand what I mean about saying “it’s the LS1 crate motors that are at fault”, I am saying that the crate motors are built using average quality bits and pieces. If an LS1 was blueprinted and built from the word go, it would NOT have piston slap and oil consumption as the clearances would all be perfect. pisons would be coated, correct type of compression / oil control rings, etc etc.
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November 2nd, 2007 at 4:42 pm
Excuses Excuses Excuses… in terms of the LS’
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November 2nd, 2007 at 4:47 pm
Paul, see this is a classic exampe of you going off on a tangent discussing something totally unrelated to the topic at hand as I’ve commented on many times before!
We were discussing the reasons for why the V8 supercar series uses the old 5L engine, and you have turned it into a LS1 bashing exercise. I dislike the LS1 as much as you do, but for god’s sake, you have to at least look at things rationally and not just through your Toyota coloured glasses!
The TOPIC AT HAND is… REASONS FOR 5L ENGINE IN V8 SUPERCAR SERIES.
And the answer IRREFUTABLY is for cost containment so that the smaller teams do not get financially disadvantaged, and also for parity reason! It’s a lot easier to match a 5L to a 5L in terms of output and power delivery characteristics!
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November 2nd, 2007 at 4:47 pm
Paul, you’re embarrasing other toyota inclined people such as myself.
This is a drag car. This car runs off nitrous, it can barely turn, it probably can’t reverse, and it has a turbo (actualy 2 probably).
Comparing this car to v8 supercars is for the above reasons pointless.
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November 2nd, 2007 at 4:57 pm
Ross you talk about tangets my original comments were about the Toyota engines with a passing reference to the V8 supercars, dont be a hypocrite, arguments to progress.
Dont patronise me Andrew, if your had bothered to read more of what Ive said I acknowledge this vehicle is highly strung (no shyte it runs on nitrous) but the point was they use the 2JZ as a basis, an example along with the many modified Supras going about showing that Toyota can do performance… the thing that the creator of this article is essentially having a go at Toyota for.
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November 2nd, 2007 at 5:01 pm
Paul you said…
“Meanwhile HSV and PFV need new engines from their 6L and 5.4L production vairatns to race in V8 supercars”
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November 2nd, 2007 at 5:03 pm
Ross Im not going to argue with you… you provide no evidence backing up what you say, just heresay… ‘they say its for costs etc’. If it was what I saw, a crappy engine… just hypotehtically here for a second, do you think theyd advertise it? No. Relating to the original topic and not going on a tangent like yourself, this drag car is an example of a production engine used in SOME capacity in a race car, something that FPV and HSV dont do no doubt because their engines are POS
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November 2nd, 2007 at 5:04 pm
Paul comparing V8 Supercars to drag? Can’t compare them.
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November 2nd, 2007 at 5:04 pm
Going Ford yes “from their”… meaning they use the 5L rather then their respective 5.4L and 6L engines… not that they use these engines in V8 supercars, even I know this much.
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November 2nd, 2007 at 5:06 pm
Paul listen mate, Your P.O.S!
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November 2nd, 2007 at 5:06 pm
Going Ford the power comparison is called a JOKE… its beyond you.
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November 2nd, 2007 at 5:09 pm
Paul, the way you go on is a joke.
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November 2nd, 2007 at 5:09 pm
Paul how about you stop being a liar hey?
When you compared the 2JZ motor to a V8 Supercar/HSV/FPV motor and commented on the latter three’s (and I quote “pitiful amount of power and acceleration.”), you were not just making a ‘passing reference’ as you put it!
You were making a DIRECT COMPARISON!! Geez! At least own up to what you have written just 5 post earlier!
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November 2nd, 2007 at 5:10 pm
Im going now, I will be back to reply… I thought Id tell everyone going to prevent this BS ‘Oh he has left the argument’. I will be back, dont worry about that.
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November 2nd, 2007 at 5:13 pm
Your misquoting Ross, please stop misquoting… thats not the context I put it in. Will reply to rest later.
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November 2nd, 2007 at 5:15 pm
Paul, that’s right, you aren’t going to argue with me becuase you obviously dont watch teh V8 Supercar series, and you obviously don’t know the sport at any technical level at all.
It is NOT HERESAY, it has been said by many commentators in passing discussions.
As I said, they even dedicated an entire show of V8 Superstars (it’s a show run by the V8 Supercar body in case you don’t know!) dedicating an entire 1 hour show to this exact issue of the 5L and when/how to switch over!
You really are an embarrassment LOL! Heresay!! The actual governing body of the sport discusses it on national TV, but Toyota Paul knows better and says it’s heresay!! hahaha
At least argue with some dignity Paul. You are digging yourself deeper and deeper into this one!! LOL
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November 2nd, 2007 at 5:16 pm
This car is TURBOCHARGED! V8 Supercars are NOT TURBOCHARGED. And this is a DRAG car, V8 Supercars are TOURERING cars, NOT DRAG CARS. Two different classes that don’t compare each other.
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November 2nd, 2007 at 5:18 pm
“Im going now, I will be back to reply… I thought Id tell everyone going to prevent this BS ‘Oh he has left the argument’. I will be back, dont worry about that.”
Who the **** are you talking to Paul? Your self, retard! :P
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November 2nd, 2007 at 5:18 pm
Paul
The 5L rule dates back to the very inception of “V8 Supercars” , when Falcons & Commodores were sold with 5L V8 engines. The race engines were developments of the production engines. To contain potentially spiralling engine development costs, for the race teams, the organisers have maintained the formula. This has resulted in a stability for the series. This has absolutely no implications of the suitability of the current production engines for racing development.
BTW the original formula was basically:
Australian produced, 4 door sedan, 5L V8, min 25000 sold.
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November 2nd, 2007 at 5:18 pm
No Paul, it was a direct quote.. not a misquote if you bother to open your eyes.
I purposely wrote “and I quote” and you STILL whinge!! LOL! I CUT AND PASTED YOUR TEXT!! haha
Why do you argue for the sake of arguing?? Just admit you are wrong, and move on. It’s not so hard you know!
You are clearly wrong, have clearly written rubbish (I.e. “Your misquoting Ross”, when all I did was a COPY AND PASTE of YOUR text!)
Come on Paul - give it up mate… really… you are just embarrassing yourself more and more…
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November 2nd, 2007 at 5:22 pm
paul does a current camry use the 2JZ engine in question? so whats the difference to V* supercars not using 6.0l and 5.4L?
Ross is dead right on everything he has said about them using the 5.0L and why they do!!!!!
dont forget holdens and fords use to use 5.0L V8’s in their production vehicles however the road going versions moved on (as most manufacturers do) but V8 super cars kept the 5.0L for the ease of parity and costs just as Ross said.
Its not just engines that are restricted for cost reasons it goes right through to the rattle guns that they use to change the wheels.
i wouldnt be surprised if its actually a Lexus chassis too
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November 2nd, 2007 at 5:26 pm
one piston in this motor would be worth more than an entire camry more than likely.
this would be far from what you would pull out of a supra
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November 2nd, 2007 at 5:27 pm
F*** you TOYOTA PAUL, you diss’n the most popular motor sport in Australia. You have a gay screen name, idiot!
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November 2nd, 2007 at 5:28 pm
I think everyone can agree that this is an impressive drag car.
But at the same time I don’t see how it bears any weight in any debate between GM/Ford/Toyota. You can make a insanely powerful car using pretty much anything. I’ve read of LS1 engines producing 2000hp but I bet you very little of the engine has any common components to a stock one.
And another thing, please noone use HEARSAY in the debate cause this is not a court and if you applied the legal doctrine strictly every comment on website is hearsay.
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November 2nd, 2007 at 5:36 pm
^^^^^^^
thats right an LS1 with the same treatment would tear shreads out of this thing.
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November 2nd, 2007 at 5:39 pm
ha ha ha
its Left hand drive too!!!
yep it has to be a lexus chassis for sure.
i actually doubt it is a camry
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November 2nd, 2007 at 5:46 pm
It’s top speed is only 354km/h, not much for a drag car. Andrew, great point! Do the same thing to a V8 and this would be a gutless wonder.
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November 2nd, 2007 at 5:47 pm
I bet when Paul comes back, he’ll talk BS again.
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November 2nd, 2007 at 5:50 pm
Ross the techno guru is here,cool!!! I have a feeling Ross knows what he is talking about!
I would think the block alone after it has been sleeved and deburred would cost more than a bloody Camry hahaha,what do you think Ross! This is a drag engine Ross is right has nothing to do with V8 Supercars! This has been built to run twice down the quarter then to have a rebuild! I doubt you would do a lap of Bathurst in it before it gave way! Hubby is the expert on drag and is on a plane to kick some Asian arse so I cant ask him what he thinks of this combo!
What I do know is there is a crowd that I have mentioned before on Caradvice that are modifying the Fords current I6 to 370 + kilowatts and shipping them in modified Typhoons to the UK! .The same crowd though it would be fun to make INXS of 1000 kws in a STREET CAR with the same engine! I doubt if that has to be rebuilt in 1/2 a mile!
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November 2nd, 2007 at 5:55 pm
Yes, even the Ford Barra I6 tuned up enough whould still be as fast as this TuRD drag car.
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November 2nd, 2007 at 5:56 pm
Geeeez Paul, your coping it today, tonight, yesterday the day before that, etc etc..you may need to find a like minded Toyota lover to sprinkle the salt on some of those open wounds, I recommend nature’s own sea salt….
“OH WHAT A **** UP”
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November 2nd, 2007 at 5:58 pm
Now now, the article does state that this dragster is the fastest in its class so I think bagging Toyota is going a bit far.
Hopefully the same executives who gave this project the go ahead continue the trend and make the Toyota FT-HS concept a reality cause that thing would throw Toyota right back in the performance market.
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November 2nd, 2007 at 6:03 pm
Hehe hey BM!
I am here… but I’m off from work now! (So I’m not here anymore!)
Have a good weekend everyone!!
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November 2nd, 2007 at 6:09 pm
Paul, as Andrew said “this is not the fastest dragster in it’s class” I don’t know what your on about Paul.
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November 2nd, 2007 at 6:23 pm
nah it is though going ford :P
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November 2nd, 2007 at 6:24 pm
I have never seen so many post.. over a camry… That said and done…. TRD RWD Camry? Unlikely I say, I’d rather have the TRD Corolla.
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November 2nd, 2007 at 6:29 pm
SENSATIONAL!!!
The arguing, I mean, not the car. I’m trotting off to see how amusing the HSV to Middle East blog is.
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November 2nd, 2007 at 6:34 pm
Damned funny, as predicted. My eyes stream with laughter every time I see that Extremely Sophisticated Holdenwoo joke!
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November 2nd, 2007 at 6:55 pm
Frosty Qulified 1st in Bahrain, but it’s yet to change.
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November 2nd, 2007 at 6:59 pm
golfschwein, it maybey funny for you, but that tosser Paul is trying to be a hero single keybord warrior, but he won’t win.
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November 2nd, 2007 at 7:35 pm
Now we are talking!!!!! :-) Thats the go Toyota. Bring it on
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November 2nd, 2007 at 7:57 pm
TOYOTA PAUL…comparing V8 Supercars to Drag Racers. Gee you are coping it on this one like the comments before. Gee all that success and hoopla you go on with about Toyota and where are they on racing car circuit. What will you say next Daihatsu (Toyota owned) will enter V8 Supercars due to skills they discover on making Sirion GTVi….LOL
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November 2nd, 2007 at 8:12 pm
paul is sleeping right now so he can be wide awake to watch the V8’s tonight ha ha ha ha ha
yeah right…..he might learn something about the category…………. no wait he already knows all about??
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November 2nd, 2007 at 8:33 pm
LOL Naughtyius Maximus! As someone pointed out, this drag car is not the fastest in it’s class and I pointed out the V8supercars are not turbocharged. Andrew M, When PAUL sees the V8s, he might think different! hey?
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November 2nd, 2007 at 8:44 pm
At least it won’t torque steer hideously like the TRD Aurion does!!
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November 2nd, 2007 at 8:54 pm
Paul… Lets make it completely fair.
Supra’s can’t put out that much power when they’re stock can they? When they’re done up, maybe they can. But if the Supra’s can be done up, lets say the F6 Typhoon can be done up too. We’ll start the Typhoon off like a stock Supra… by putting Twin Turbo’s in it. Hey! Look at that! You wouldn’t need any more then that and the Typhoon has already beaten the done up Supra. You manage to say that this article is just a joke on Toyota’s behalf, yet your getting just as, if not, more defencive then what you do normally. Just give up, power wise, anything Toyota can do, Ford can do and better it.
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November 2nd, 2007 at 8:57 pm
Hahahahaha ………Could you you imagine that if it did! Oww
,you seen the size of those steering wheels,it would take your arm off I reckon if it did!
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November 2nd, 2007 at 9:03 pm
Too right Azza, F6 has a bigger motor, so if you do the same thing to it as the Supra, the F6 will be faster.
Toyota Paul punk wanker wants us just to like toyota, why? Ford can be fast too and that little prick just went againts V8 Supercars, what an arsehole, V8s are the most popular motor sport series in Australia, so he might as well say both NRL and AFL suck then.
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November 2nd, 2007 at 9:11 pm
Holden V Ford in touring cars - go against that grain and it is un-Australian.
Dont raise NRL and AFL as he will comment about Superbowl or Hurling………………LOL
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November 2nd, 2007 at 9:13 pm
Azza mate, have you ‘exeperienced’ 2jz goodness? Like actually driven one?
I mean you have ‘got’ to be joking me with the whole Ford can do it better. 2jz = 3L , so that typhoon is 1L more already. Does the typhoon engine come with forged internals? last I checked the 2jz can go a good 5-600hp on stock internals before it even needs to be opened. The typhoon isn’t stock either, the number of times that engine has been done up (cobra edition, blah edition etc) just more tweaks, so don’t even try calling it a stock motor.
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November 2nd, 2007 at 9:14 pm
and you fellas that keep bringing up this oh not Australian, not Australian, mate go discuss that in politics keep it to cars here.
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November 2nd, 2007 at 9:20 pm
alien, the typhoon motor and cobra motor arent the same.
now i ask you….
have you ever experienced an f6 or driven an f6 cause you dont even know what it is on paper
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November 2nd, 2007 at 9:21 pm
We are as fact is cars that race in Australian Touring Car series is HOLDEN and FORD. Is there any other cars that actually race???? ALIEN YOUR OUT THERE if you think we have left any car out of these races!
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November 2nd, 2007 at 9:22 pm
Alien, just for your reference there are many Typhoons putting out 350rwkw without the engine being touched at ALL. That equates to 500rwhp! (I.e. Much more than 500HP @ the flywheel).
If you need to confirm what I am saying you can call C&V Performance, Xtreme Ford Tuning, or KPM Motorsport (or many others). If you would like more references you wish to contact, please let me know.
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November 2nd, 2007 at 9:24 pm
Alien, the Cobra was tuned up in the FPV plant so it is stock. If it’s not stock, it’s been tuned-up after market.
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November 2nd, 2007 at 9:25 pm
Oops - 350rwkws equates to 470rwhp - thats still well over 500HP @ the flywheel.
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November 2nd, 2007 at 9:27 pm
And mind you, there are some who are game who are putting out 400rwks on stock Typhoon internals (536rwhp).
Again, you can check with any of the above tuners I listed for what I just said.
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November 2nd, 2007 at 9:27 pm
Guys come on poor Alien, lets no alienate alien even if his comments are out there….it is a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge cosmos
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November 2nd, 2007 at 9:27 pm
Ross for your reference my cousin drives an 800hp 2jz (but that was rebuilt), however a few of the friends drive ones with basic bolt ons and are getting similar if not much more than what you’ve quoted.
Millennium Motorsports, Boostedextremes, 101Auto, Option1 or a fair few others if you wish to contact as well (Y)
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November 2nd, 2007 at 9:28 pm
What about NIZPRO, they tuned a Ford I6 to 1000hp.
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November 2nd, 2007 at 9:29 pm
also alien are you saying this motor wouldnt have been opened?
the other guys are saying it would be easier to get a typhoon to this level hence the typhoon would need to be opened and so would this toyota motor.
thats right Ross,
ive heard 300kw out of a XR turbo with 240kw standard is a piece of piss so 350 out of the phoon….. yep id say no worries too.
there are plenty of shops around that do upgrades on the turbo 6’s from ford and it is so easy to extract more out of them.
just out of interest Alien what boost does the 2jz run stock?
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November 2nd, 2007 at 9:33 pm
Well Alien, if you want to get techincal I know a guy who has Nizpros 1000HP XR6T done by Nizpro (he is in Sydney).
Initially was at 1200HP, but detuned to 1000HP :P
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November 2nd, 2007 at 9:34 pm
If we’re going to bring in all these figures - how about the 650hp awd Corolla that Fensports put together (Uk however :P)
or Kean Wang’s Version 2 Supra of Boost logic Motorsports. It runs 7.77@ 183.
Needless to say both are fairly ‘up’ there , but I wouldn’t be boldly just saying that Ford does it better, thats just ignorance right there.
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November 2nd, 2007 at 9:35 pm
its runs 8psi stock… nothing fancy.
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November 2nd, 2007 at 9:35 pm
I agree.. looking at modded cars is just a matter of who has deeper pockets!
Not too much point really! (Only useful for sub 10k mods I think)
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November 2nd, 2007 at 9:38 pm
Gee its like tea time at my house before my son left home?
Ricers vs V8s…….
The Phoon is real cheap horsepower for the few mods you have to make those exra few kws…..unlike any of the ricers that have a lot more than just engine mods to get them moving .
The drive train on the Phoons now is real good !!
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November 2nd, 2007 at 9:42 pm
ricer = someone doing up aesthetics or full sick subwoofahs …
doesn’t involve mechanical related mods BM ..
I wonder who’d win the debate if your son had a Jap sports car that would give yours a decent run. Unless you’re saying all he does is really rice them up aswell?
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November 2nd, 2007 at 9:43 pm
Thats the guys I couldn’t recall there names…..NIZPRO…
Yep and its street registered ,the guy that owns it is no spring chicken so it must be half decent to drive still..hahaha
Hey Ross most of the time its who has the most money wins!
Unless your a motor mechanic by trade own your own workshop and get everything at trade price,oh that sounds familiar!!hehehe
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November 2nd, 2007 at 9:49 pm
He does do mech mods Alien ,but the point is he would never beat his Dad with any of his cars even if he bought something to try nailing what we currently have,Dad would always build something faster! Hes never going to win! Hes given up even trying to impress us with ricer stories…….we always have a better one ! Door slammers…..do they do those in 4 cylinders? Could you imagine Victor Bray in a Camry???hahaha
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November 2nd, 2007 at 10:10 pm
Paul…Never in my browsing on this site have I seen such a narrow sighted idiot. Firstly, I will agree with you in that Toyota are known for their reliability and credit to them. Secondly, Ford and GM (Ford Aus and Holden) have both world class engines that are admired globally on the road, race track and drag strips. Toyota Aus have only just started doing what Ford and Holden have been doing for decades in making performance driven vehicles and good on them. But…they are no where near the level of FPV or HSV and won’t be for a long time if ever. Toyota Aus have stated they are not competing with HSV or FPV. It appears when ever there is a story on Toyota you narrow your vision to “Toyota rules and all other cars are S**T”. Very childish. I am a Ford man but as a car lover I respect all kinds and makes as they come. Oh and maybe you should start reading the “Toyota sliding in reliability” stories…which is what my in laws have found with their 2006 Prado…
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November 2nd, 2007 at 10:21 pm
Oh…and while I am at it and its Friday night, a couple of beers down…That camry drag car looks like every other Toyota…SOFT…It still does NOT look aggressive along with the Aurion and Aurion TRD. The TRD Hilux at the Sydney motor show…MAJOR dissapointment. On a technical note that drag car is not running a stock production motor 2JZ motor like this Paul is trying to make out…HEAVILY WORKED…Believe me as my uncke has just finished a 7 second HQ…NATURALLY ASPIRATED…I will say no more
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November 2nd, 2007 at 10:34 pm
Personally I think everyone needs to calm down here -
(yes note to self too)
I guess we’re all going to have our own views and ofcourse you can’t just expect each to believe in exactly what you do. I think it should be given a rest in terms of saying one is shit or crap etc to the other. More so a better and logical debate would be healthier as to exactly what makes one different to the other (specs etc, real life drive and cars that we’ve actually driven or experienced ourselves).
Enjoy the weekend, safe driving :P!
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November 2nd, 2007 at 10:58 pm
Winterbottom just won race one. Paul ‘wanker’ has realy shut-up now!
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November 2nd, 2007 at 11:05 pm
Not your area is it Paul, no comment back! :P How dare you diss the V8 Supercars, arsehole!
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November 2nd, 2007 at 11:26 pm
LOL Toyota Paul, F***ing Looser! :P
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November 2nd, 2007 at 11:39 pm
Channel Seven, SHAME ON YOU FOR DELAYING THE V8 SUPERCAR TELICAST BY AROUND AN HOUR AFTER IT FINISHED!
There is a replay been showin on channel now, lucky I checked Bigpond’s “live-and-on-demand”. The good news is, Frosty won. Bad news that Tander has overtaken Whincup in the Championship points.
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November 3rd, 2007 at 9:27 am
Top Gear on tonight 7.30 SBS!
V8s on at 10.30 tonight!
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November 3rd, 2007 at 9:33 am
BM…Top Gear is a top show - could you imagine Americans making that show. Bloody poms great especially at comedies. Gee I still remember one line of Blackadder that is funny as. Only comedy show I love from USA is Seinfeld. Sometimes I think there are many Kramers and Newmans on here but CARADVICE is a bloody top website nevertheless!
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November 3rd, 2007 at 9:43 am
Yep Trick my Truck is along way from Top Gear….I think after the boys visiting the US they have been banned from returning.Not that I think Jeremy wants too! When we were there recently I couldn’t find any of Jeremy’s books at the Airport newsagent’s to read on the way home! I think hes been totally alienated from the states . They don’t get British humor I think! Us as colonials do cause we can laugh at ourselves!
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November 3rd, 2007 at 9:55 am
going ford,
if you ever tell the results on here before the telecast again i will head but my screen aimed at you.
you are lucky i logged off here before you gave the result.
nothing worse than staying up till 1am watching something that you know the result of.
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November 3rd, 2007 at 10:03 am
Yawn! mega power 2JZ’s have been running around for ever, 300rwkw street driven XR6 Turbo’s are common place now, and you can buy off the shelf twin turbo kits for the LS1 & LS2 to make well over 350rwkw. The article was funny, but it didn’t deserve this much crap! How did V8 supercars get thrown into the mix, might as well say a Top Fuel drag car has something to do with a 1956 Chevy Bel-Air!
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November 3rd, 2007 at 10:53 am
When??????
You want to meet at the Seinfeld coffee shop? hahaha
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November 3rd, 2007 at 11:23 am
Speaking of Seinfeld, I saw him in Las Vegas last year! He was great!!
I also saw David Copperfield.. he too was waaaay better than I expected!!
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November 3rd, 2007 at 11:37 am
Gee Ross, my loss. How long did he go for and how much to go see the legend? Now was he just great or real great? Cant blame me for asking!
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November 3rd, 2007 at 11:57 am
Pat E, that was because of that arsehole Toyota Paul was diss’n the most popular form of motor sport in Australia.
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November 3rd, 2007 at 12:06 pm
I hope We shut Toyota Paul up for good now. Thanks to him, I hate Toyota now more than ever. TOYOTA SUX - because Toyota Paul made me think they suck now! …Thank you Paul!
Andrew M, I’ll try not spoil it for you. That was lucky you got off, so I won’t do that again.
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November 3rd, 2007 at 12:41 pm
you better not spoil it again or the next headbut is coming aussie post style in an express post satchel.
I agree,
i hate toyotas more now because of the way toyota paul portrays them to be invincible.
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November 3rd, 2007 at 3:42 pm
Hahahah you cant win when you are surrounded my Ford fairies. Andrew.M continue talking sh*t ‘oh I hate Toyota more now’… mate you post negatively in EVERY Toyota thread like your fairy friends, I think you cant hate it much more… what Ive caused is for you fairies to be bitter at Toyota, rubbing salt into the wounds so to speak when I highlight how piss poor your Fords are (60% have problems in the first 5 months… I think Daewoos have a better record) compared to Toyotas rock solid reliability which means only 15% have problems in the same period. Its called tall poppy syndrome, lets attack Toyota because we deep down know they are the best.
As for this article, as usualy people twist and turn… my main point (with the jokes I made at some individuals aside) is that this provides an example of Toyota having the confidence of using a production engine in a racing application (however heavily modified) compared to the Ford and Holden camp who use racing engines because they have absolutely no confidence in their own engines…. cant blame them!
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November 3rd, 2007 at 3:57 pm
But I doubt any of the parts apart from the block that would still be modified would be ex toyota factory Paul,seriously.
I think even Tony Wedlock the owner would tell you that,he doesn’t even want to tell anyone what the car cost him in the States where he bought it!
Seems like Toyota trying to enter yet another field in what Hemis,Chevs and Fords have always dominated. I doubt this will change much in the drag racing circles ! He still cant run with the big boys…. big block door slammers! Doubt it sounds any where as impressive either! Sorry but Toyota cant be good at everything and will have to go along way to convince true V8 petrol heads other wise . No insults back please!
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November 3rd, 2007 at 4:03 pm
I understand you ford fairies feel threatened by Toyota expanding… they already compete in the most competitions throughout the world and now they are moving into drag racing… using an engine that is based on a production engine (I have never said its extremely similar, but it is the 2JZ…3.2L displacement producing 1300kw… meanwhile Andrew.M says a GM can get 2000hp….100kw more with double the displacement!!). And insults, dont patronise me, I am reactionary… you will have to consult your fairies about attacking people (And no fairies isnt an insult in my eyes)
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November 3rd, 2007 at 4:10 pm
Yes Paul, it’s correct that you can get more power out of a bigger motor.
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November 3rd, 2007 at 4:28 pm
If Paul wants me to think Fords are “P.O.S” and just love Toyotas, they need to have a RWD V8, I don’t like Toyota because of that! Paul listen mate, you still have not told us your point.
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November 3rd, 2007 at 5:10 pm
You have quite the imagination their NM… and you expect us to believe you own a number of propeties etc! And its obvious Going Ford is your alternative persona, this is the 10th post Ive seen where you reply within 2mins, coincidence? No.
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November 3rd, 2007 at 5:30 pm
They are different people Paul…….sorry Me lives in QLD I think and NM lives in NSW from memory? Plus NM has just returned this week after being in Cairns after putting his boat on a slip for $24000 in repairs . I would guess NM is older than Me too so more likely than not does own properties ,baby boomer like myself I would think! Me was till posting when NM was away.
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November 3rd, 2007 at 7:23 pm
Yes I was here when NM was away. Paul, it looks like you’ve run out of ideas, so it’s insult time is it?
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November 3rd, 2007 at 7:45 pm
TOYOTA PAUL: paranoid again I see. Paul mate, you’ll go blind as you worry about this 2mins gap you ALWAYS go on about so remove thy hands of it as you are wildly wrong. GAME OVER ON THAT ONE SO DROP IT!
BM: Yes NSW as daylight savings here. Miss Smarty! Spot on
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November 3rd, 2007 at 7:48 pm
Dear Good!!! Someone this incoherent, because they were lucky enough to be a baby boomer, is well off! And no Going Ford he has used various other names in the past, its reasonable to be suspiscious given this fact and the similarties between your posts.
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November 3rd, 2007 at 7:49 pm
Dear god*
Yes as I just stated there is reason to be paranoid… and I still would be in relation to these fortunes you have unless BM has actually seen them… people have a tendency to talk themselves up over the internet.
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November 3rd, 2007 at 7:52 pm
firstly,
paul at it again misquoting me!!!!
look back and tell me again that i said you can get 2000hp out of a chev!!!!!!
ill be back to finish in a sec
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November 3rd, 2007 at 7:53 pm
Paul I have only used one name in the past and that was ‘Me.’
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November 3rd, 2007 at 7:59 pm
PAUL….gee you are a deadset paranoid jughead of the highest calibre time and time and time again. You say fortunes and all I said was properties. Get over it, we went down road of builders margins. Iam not a carpenter; has that sunk in to your granite like head. If not let me know as I will get my Hitachi big jackhammer that plugs into a 10amp single power point and get it through to you mate!
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November 3rd, 2007 at 8:01 pm
Not baby boomer. F***k ya playing in sandpit all over the place PAUL… drop it!
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November 3rd, 2007 at 8:04 pm
TOYOTA PAUL… please I beg you stop it as just read another one of your comments and Iam crying from laughing… SERIOUS YA FUNNY STOOGE AND PARANOID AS EVER.
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November 3rd, 2007 at 8:05 pm
Paul is a paranoid retard, I tell ya!
Something that pissed me of before is that Channel Seven didn’t even show race 2 live. (ANDREW.M, I WON’T DARE SAY THE SLIGHTEST THING WHAT HAPPEND, SO YOU CAN STILL WATCH IT ON TV AND NO SPOILERS!)
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November 3rd, 2007 at 8:05 pm
Another “Andrew” said it then… Im misquoting on purpose………………………….
NM congrats on your fortunes, you’ve done well on $30k p.a… baby boomers did have better housing affordability I spose.
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November 3rd, 2007 at 8:06 pm
Tears gone!
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November 3rd, 2007 at 8:07 pm
If Paul insults anyone, I can insult him back too…
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November 3rd, 2007 at 8:08 pm
You been crying NM? No need to get emotionally attached to this.
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November 3rd, 2007 at 8:09 pm
Yeah Going Ford you twat, I throw an insult in every 2nd word because I havent got the brains to formulate a reasonably argument. I dont think you’ve contributed one decent thing apart from ‘Ford Ford…Deeeeeeerr Ford’
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November 3rd, 2007 at 8:12 pm
Too right you haven’t got the brains to formulate a reasonably argument, dumbarse!
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November 3rd, 2007 at 8:13 pm
NM just in case youve lost it, Im still awaiting for a reply to this accusation you made against Toyotas relaibility, here:
caradvice.com.au/7642/toyota-halts-sales-of-the-v6-rav4/#comment-34968
Just link a web page, there are million of sites on the net surely one supports what youve said.
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November 3rd, 2007 at 8:14 pm
Going Ford that is called satire, its over someones head when they are still in primary school.
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November 3rd, 2007 at 8:15 pm
Now generation X is picking on baby boomers…….not our problem our houses are now worth a Million!!
Paul you have no idea what us baby boomers have been through!
Who cares how much you earn its what you spend it on! This is just getting too low now,nothing to do with cars!
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November 3rd, 2007 at 8:16 pm
PAUL YOU BRAINCELL…refer to 7.59pm third line. PAUL I have a company and if a house costs me 192K I charge the client 239K as I have. I do multiple homes. All I do is get smarter people then you to do work under my scope of works to there trade. Mate Iam suprised you breathe air as your wasting it and this most basic answer.
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November 3rd, 2007 at 8:19 pm
Mock of the first verse of Fruit’s Candy…
Did you know that Paul-l-l is an-n arsehole?
Not only that, he is a, a f***hole.
Hard to think a little kid thinks he can get me…
To just love Toyot-t-a-a-a, ahhhh!
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November 3rd, 2007 at 8:22 pm
What you’ve been through lol… paying off house loans in 5 years! Now you have to take 20 year loans out… some people take loans out for their life! Dont lecture me about difficulties of the baby boomers pleeease!
Ok NM you work so much yet your essentially on the computer 24/7, Im sure you can appreciate how difficult this is to believe.
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caradvice.com.au/7642/toyota-halts-sales-of-the-v6-rav4/#comment-34968
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November 3rd, 2007 at 8:23 pm
Paul I don’t know what you went on about, it might be because you’re still in primary school. :P
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November 3rd, 2007 at 8:24 pm
Yet another post by Going Ford, bringing nothing to the argument… just insults
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caradvice.com.au/7642/toyota-halts-sales-of-the-v6-rav4/#comment-34968
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November 3rd, 2007 at 8:24 pm
ok paul you expect a response from every one on your questions yet you still have not pointed out the things you critisize me on. ive asked you several times!!!!
how many times have you lied and how many times have you misquoted me now?
um about 3 a piece i think it is so a total of 6 times you have fabricated lies
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November 3rd, 2007 at 8:26 pm
Yes I fabricate lies yet Im the ONLY one to provide evidence for many of my opinions. Honestly Andrew.M your a joke, of course I make mistakes… I have to respond to 10+ Ford fairies. But attacking on the basis of lies, Id say ALL you say is a lie and your fairy friends, because you never back it up, so its unsubstantiated.
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caradvice.com.au/7642/toyota-halts-sales-of-the-v6-rav4/#comment-34968
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November 3rd, 2007 at 8:27 pm
still waiting for paul to support his claims i am a liar……….and waiting and waiting and waiting.
mate ive been waiting for what feels like 6 months so how about you prove yourself first before demanding others to
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November 3rd, 2007 at 8:29 pm
mate ive shown you plenty of times the stupid stuff you have said with NO COMMENT!!
yet you still go on about it!!!!
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November 3rd, 2007 at 8:30 pm
Toyota Paul Says:
September 28th, 2007 @ 12:34 pm on F6 Typhoon road test…
“And as for hating Fords so much, I think if you look hard enough you will find positive comments made by me about Fords.”
WHERE? SOUNDS LIKE A BULLSHIT ARTIST WROTE THAT ABOVE!
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November 3rd, 2007 at 8:30 pm
Hahah Ford faries ganging up. Maybe your alittle thick Andrew.M, Im mentioned the difficulties associated with finding quotes from you.. I dont intend to spend hours. NM on the other hand would have find his little figures just yesterday, hell if he found it off the net the site should still be in his history. Note the difference, one takes 5seconds to retrieve the other will take many hours.
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caradvice.com.au/7642/toyota-halts-sales-of-the-v6-rav4/#comment-34968
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November 3rd, 2007 at 8:31 pm
oh i also provided you with an official crash test ratings graph 3 times yet you still went on that toyotas were safer than fords!!!
yet the graph proved fords typically are far better in safety
yet you still argue!!!!!!
oh if ford drivers are fairies then what are those that drive wussy camrys?
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November 3rd, 2007 at 8:32 pm
Going Ford… you sound like a retard to me! How old are you, for real? 6? 7? Your not even old enough to drive a car yet, dont try to lecture me on anything child.
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November 3rd, 2007 at 8:33 pm
ok if you arent going to prove what i have said then shut your pie hole on the subject then!!!!!!
if you are so confident on what i have said and recollect it so well im sure it wouldnt be that hard to find
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November 3rd, 2007 at 8:34 pm
Yes Andrew.M you always provide evidence… dont know what world you live in what it aint reality, even your fairy budy NM highlights my linking in the SS thread… I think youve provided support twice out of 10000 claims. And wussy camry oh man thats deep!
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November 3rd, 2007 at 8:34 pm
Self employed dipstick is moi. I Supervise and organise the separate stages of work and day is over real quick even when doing multiple homes. No baby boomer as Iam responsible as most cannot look after themselves and have 3kids. I buy land, subdivide it and make heaps on that. You can too once ya get a life. Paul that exact sentence is off the internet and I suggest you look as it black and white is there. GOD I CANNOT BELIEVE HOW PATHETICALLY INCOHERENT AND ALL OVER THE PLACE YA ARE.
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November 3rd, 2007 at 8:35 pm
Goes to show that it’s really you Paul whos the retard here because im not 6 or 7 or even too young to drive.
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November 3rd, 2007 at 8:36 pm
I am not lecturing you, some baby boomers have been through a lot to pay off their home cause banks times for a loan was 12 years not 5 . I was born in 1965 so I am not a baby boomer really!
Yet by the time I was I was married ,business turning over $400,000. a new BMW in the drive and a year later a new 911 ! Some of us weren’t infernal students cause you don’t have to be to earn big money. Sorry…….but true! Stop putting those down that weren’t University educated !
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November 3rd, 2007 at 8:36 pm
…Reliability sentence ya refer to Paul is off the…
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November 3rd, 2007 at 8:36 pm
oh and you are a housing expert to are you paul?
mate dont forget that when the baby boomers were “in” interest rates were triple what they are now meaning housing affordability would have been similar.
you can pay a house off in 5yrs now days too if you want. just put your head down and get stuck into it.
do you own a house paul?
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November 3rd, 2007 at 8:36 pm
…Sentence is off the internet…..
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November 3rd, 2007 at 8:37 pm
Andrew.M Ive mentioned you saying Ford is better then Toyota in reliability like twice, I havent even mentioned it here.. quit looking like an idiot saying ’shut your pie hole about it’ when you mentioned it.
Hahaha yes Im over the place, your the guy who posts and appears to be high on something. I very much doubt you are in such a position of authority, you are literally on this site all day and all night. Once I start work I will have no time for this. There is no way even self employed you could do all this, sorry, but its fluff.
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November 3rd, 2007 at 8:37 pm
Paul!!! this is what you said… “And as for hating Fords so much, I think if you look hard enough you will find positive comments made by me about Fords.”
I tell you that and you talk shit with childish comments.
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November 3rd, 2007 at 8:40 pm
No Andrew.M you can talk as much sh*t as you want… my parents bought a house for $100k and sold it for $500k, in the same period their income didnt increase 5x and even with interest it was still far quicker to pay off when its such a small amount. I have other examples which are even bigger, I know someone who bought land for $20k in the 60s and its now worth $1mil! Incomes havent increased by that much. I think your just looking for an argument like you say I do, right now… its common sense housing affordability has decreased.
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November 3rd, 2007 at 8:41 pm
Going Ford Im not going to respond to you child, you have not once, literally once, provided something useful here. I dont answer to people who constantly insult others but provide NOTHING to any discussion
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November 3rd, 2007 at 8:42 pm
Thats because you too Chicken to respond to people older than you.
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November 3rd, 2007 at 8:42 pm
paul you are lucky DJR had a good run in bahrain otherwise i would jump through your screen and rip your head off (that means im in a good mood)
so where is the link where i have said fords have a better track reliability that toyotas.
mate that is the basis for every second word that comes out of your trap!!!!
that is your trade mark argument so why no desire to prove you are right?
you know you wont find it. yep it would take more than hours to find something i never typed
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November 3rd, 2007 at 8:47 pm
OK guys, time to only do what is fair.. I suggest everyone make a signature just like Toyota Paul.
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TOYOTA PAULS CREDIBILITY IS AT STAKE!!
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November 3rd, 2007 at 8:48 pm
Paul i bought a house 2yrs ago (very much post boom) and it is on track to be paid clear in a total or 4-5yrs!!!!!
i am also looking at other investment land opportunities where i could see myself net$30k in 3 months.
so you are not working at the moment?
well get the hell off the centre link computer as it is reserved for those that are interested in contributing to the australian economic cycle
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November 3rd, 2007 at 8:48 pm
Paul I did prove something there. You just too chicken shit to respond.
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November 3rd, 2007 at 8:50 pm
Taking a long time to comment back Paul
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November 3rd, 2007 at 8:52 pm
No way at that age I could do this……….I was 19 .!
Every heard of ABALONE DIVERS! A license now is worth now ???
When I divorced at 28 it was worth 3.5 million I think a kilo of abbs is about $60.00 if not more a kilo and a divers quota is 28 units ! One unit is worth around a thousand kilos…you work it out! You have NO IDEA!!!!!!!!! Trying to watch Top Gear!
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November 3rd, 2007 at 8:52 pm
thats right it is your credibility at stake paul.
while you are at it have a look at where you HAVE said “toyotas have bullet proof reliability” and also where you have said the TRD is the only toyota to have a problem.
you critisize of of barging in on toyota posts and bringing negativity with us yet you fail to se that you are either the “pot” or the “kettle”. so which one are you.
remember you barged in on the mondeo post as a classic and said the car that offered far better value than a camry (the mondeo) was a rip off ha ha ha ha ha
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November 3rd, 2007 at 8:53 pm
LOL Andrew M! Paul get of centre link computers!
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November 3rd, 2007 at 9:00 pm
Andrew.M:
For starters, it hasnt been my bias, my basis is that Ford are piss poor…. not that you said Ford are better then Toyota
Regardless after a quick search of a thread I suspected had you mentioning Ford is better and its come up trumps. Please to all you idiots who have been asking, here is your evidence (cop is sweet idiots):
Andrew.M =
“mate im gonna let you have your reliability thing cause its going nowhere. i dont care as all my fords (and everyone i know who has or has had them have had no problems…..
as i and some others (including yourself paul) have said before there are many other factors on which you must consider.
safety………..ford wins
comfort……….ford wins
reliability……toyota wins (I GIVE IN LETS COUNT ALL MEDIA)
handling………ford wins
styling……….ford wins
value…………ford wins”
caradvice.com.au/6306/2007-trd-aurion-3500s-road-test/
Let me guess…. you will twist some BS that you werent saying that. EAT YOUR HUMBLE PIE IDIOTS!
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November 3rd, 2007 at 9:01 pm
paul unless you can find where i have said \”fords have a better track record than toyotas\” then you argument on me not believing your survey is DEAD.
its a mythical thought paul and i think the reason you want to believe i said it is so you can argue about something.
do you also beat yourself up and tell the authorities your parents did it?
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November 3rd, 2007 at 9:01 pm
Hi everybody!
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November 3rd, 2007 at 9:02 pm
Ross cop that your f*ckwit… I bet you make some excuse, well I dont bet, I guarrante you Ford fairy!!!
Andrew.M as for paying your house off, Im sure you could when your older and have a decent income. But that isnt a great example. Young vs Young, my parents paid off a house in 5 years which now takes 20 years in similar cirucmstnaces (ie income etc)
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November 3rd, 2007 at 9:03 pm
mate your evidence proves me right!
it proves that i have said toyotas win in reliability!!!
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November 3rd, 2007 at 9:05 pm
Paul for all you know i could be younger than you so why assume i am older than you so thats why i could pay off quicker
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