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		<title>By: Duck</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/7696/hsv-thinking-captiva/#comment-70842</link>
		<dc:creator>Duck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 08:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^sorry its spelt www.cgiautomotive.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^sorry its spelt <a href="http://www.cgiautomotive.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.cgiautomotive.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Duck</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/7696/hsv-thinking-captiva/#comment-70841</link>
		<dc:creator>Duck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 08:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ive got a picture of a HSV Captiva and it looks quite good but i cant give you the hyperlink to website www.cgiautomotive were i did get it off in the first place because they have got rid of it for some reason.  But speaking of it the HSV Captiva looks good but it may ruin HSV like i said.  The next HSV, HSV could do that would be fine would be a version of the Opel Corsa OPC or a HSV Vecrta i guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ive got a picture of a HSV Captiva and it looks quite good but i cant give you the hyperlink to website <a href="http://www.cgiautomotive" rel="nofollow">http://www.cgiautomotive</a> were i did get it off in the first place because they have got rid of it for some reason.  But speaking of it the HSV Captiva looks good but it may ruin HSV like i said.  The next HSV, HSV could do that would be fine would be a version of the Opel Corsa OPC or a HSV Vecrta i guess.</p>
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		<title>By: Duck</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/7696/hsv-thinking-captiva/#comment-40908</link>
		<dc:creator>Duck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 23:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The hasnt been one korean sourced HSV made so why start now and ruin the reputation of HSV!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The hasnt been one korean sourced HSV made so why start now and ruin the reputation of HSV!</p>
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		<title>By: wheelnut</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/7696/hsv-thinking-captiva/#comment-36581</link>
		<dc:creator>wheelnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what they could do is pull out the engine and drop in a  small block V8 [the cadillac northstar quad cam would do fine] the AWD system from the Cross 8. then add the usual HSV goodies such as Cross Drilled Ventilated Brakes; MRC Suspension; optional supercharger oh and a bodykit then call it the CaptiV8D [D for Dumb Idea].</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what they could do is pull out the engine and drop in a  small block V8 [the cadillac northstar quad cam would do fine] the AWD system from the Cross 8. then add the usual HSV goodies such as Cross Drilled Ventilated Brakes; MRC Suspension; optional supercharger oh and a bodykit then call it the CaptiV8D [D for Dumb Idea].</p>
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		<title>By: woz</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/7696/hsv-thinking-captiva/#comment-34619</link>
		<dc:creator>woz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 06:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you lose, oh well, no arguement is good enough if there is no substance or fact, judged by peer&#039;s action&#039;s speek louder than your words...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you lose, oh well, no arguement is good enough if there is no substance or fact, judged by peer&#8217;s action&#8217;s speek louder than your words&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Richo</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/7696/hsv-thinking-captiva/#comment-34615</link>
		<dc:creator>Richo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 06:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toyota Paul on the other hand, you make sense, i just dont agree with you alot of the time! But thats cool, thats cars my friend! So i shall continue to address you.

Toyota execs have stated on numerous occasions that HSV is the benchmark in this country for boutique performance car brands, which is no surprise really considering for a long time they where the ONLY manufacturer in the segment! FPV has since come along but HSV still absolutely dominate FPV in the sales charts and therefore still remain the benchmark, thats simply the way it is.

Now i NEVER said TRD wants to build the SAME products as HSV. That would be silly, for a start toyota dont build commodores to base their vehicles off! Well... not for recently anyway! All i said is that the brand HSV, not the products but the BRAND of HSV, is at the level which toyota hope for TRD to one day be at, that meaning they wish for TRD to one day be the leading name in performance cars in this country.

Now i&#039;m sure i dont need to go through all my wheels and motor magazines to find specific quotes of this because i&#039;m sure you will agree that this is very obviously the case. Why else would toyota launch a brand called TRD on the back of a motorsport program (ala HSV which started out of a little motorsport program called the holden racing team) and then use this brand of TRD to modify family cars to turn them into performance cars, ie what HSV does with turning commodores into clubsports etc. You havve to ask why would they adpot a model so STRIKINGLY similar to that of HSV if they didnt want to muscle in on the segment that HSV currently occupies? The answer to that again is obvious, its because they DO want to move in on the same territory as HSV currently occupies.

Its like when FPV first came out, everyone knew they where going to target HSV and that they where going to produce products that will challenge HSV, but the FPV people ranted about &quot;we are not targeting HSV, rather giving people an alternative to HSV&quot; which is basically code for we are targeting HSV but we dont want to admit that HSV is a success story so hence we wont admit that we are targeting them. And thats exactly the same as what TRD are doing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toyota Paul on the other hand, you make sense, i just dont agree with you alot of the time! But thats cool, thats cars my friend! So i shall continue to address you.</p>
<p>Toyota execs have stated on numerous occasions that HSV is the benchmark in this country for boutique performance car brands, which is no surprise really considering for a long time they where the ONLY manufacturer in the segment! FPV has since come along but HSV still absolutely dominate FPV in the sales charts and therefore still remain the benchmark, thats simply the way it is.</p>
<p>Now i NEVER said TRD wants to build the SAME products as HSV. That would be silly, for a start toyota dont build commodores to base their vehicles off! Well&#8230; not for recently anyway! All i said is that the brand HSV, not the products but the BRAND of HSV, is at the level which toyota hope for TRD to one day be at, that meaning they wish for TRD to one day be the leading name in performance cars in this country.</p>
<p>Now i&#8217;m sure i dont need to go through all my wheels and motor magazines to find specific quotes of this because i&#8217;m sure you will agree that this is very obviously the case. Why else would toyota launch a brand called TRD on the back of a motorsport program (ala HSV which started out of a little motorsport program called the holden racing team) and then use this brand of TRD to modify family cars to turn them into performance cars, ie what HSV does with turning commodores into clubsports etc. You havve to ask why would they adpot a model so STRIKINGLY similar to that of HSV if they didnt want to muscle in on the segment that HSV currently occupies? The answer to that again is obvious, its because they DO want to move in on the same territory as HSV currently occupies.</p>
<p>Its like when FPV first came out, everyone knew they where going to target HSV and that they where going to produce products that will challenge HSV, but the FPV people ranted about &#8220;we are not targeting HSV, rather giving people an alternative to HSV&#8221; which is basically code for we are targeting HSV but we dont want to admit that HSV is a success story so hence we wont admit that we are targeting them. And thats exactly the same as what TRD are doing</p>
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		<title>By: Richo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 06:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woz i&#039;m no longer going to respond to you because its impossible because your argument is a constantly evolving thing that seemingly changes easily to suit your current stance. First you say all cars from korea are crap, now its only the ones made at daewoo plants... so your whole argument that daewoos are bad because their korean is gone and now its just daewoos are bad because they&#039;re daewoos? I see, end of discussion with you, bye bye</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woz i&#8217;m no longer going to respond to you because its impossible because your argument is a constantly evolving thing that seemingly changes easily to suit your current stance. First you say all cars from korea are crap, now its only the ones made at daewoo plants&#8230; so your whole argument that daewoos are bad because their korean is gone and now its just daewoos are bad because they&#8217;re daewoos? I see, end of discussion with you, bye bye</p>
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		<title>By: woz</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/7696/hsv-thinking-captiva/#comment-34599</link>
		<dc:creator>woz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 06:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richo, Suzuki have an equity affiliation with GM Daewoo  (GMDAT) but the stance is frail after GM asset loss, they had a couple of models sourced from Korea for the American market but I don&#039;t think any manufacturing is executed from there, you may need to give more facts on that one.. I think your falling apart from the seams, pick up the pieces and mix up some araldite......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richo, Suzuki have an equity affiliation with GM Daewoo  (GMDAT) but the stance is frail after GM asset loss, they had a couple of models sourced from Korea for the American market but I don&#8217;t think any manufacturing is executed from there, you may need to give more facts on that one.. I think your falling apart from the seams, pick up the pieces and mix up some araldite&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: woz</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/7696/hsv-thinking-captiva/#comment-34577</link>
		<dc:creator>woz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 06:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know mine is made in Japan because the manufacturer&#039;s plate say&#039;s so, at least I can choose where Suzuki is made not like your Daewoo&#039;s.  GM still has a 3% share in the company but I won&#039;t cry about that. Suzuki was smart when GM offered the sell off, now the company is mostly free of dictatorship...  Suzuki&#039;s are mainly built in japan and soon large scale in India, but who care&#039;s, it has estabished very large respected roots and their racing heritage is much loved by million&#039;s if you want to argue about this company you are in for a long night</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know mine is made in Japan because the manufacturer&#8217;s plate say&#8217;s so, at least I can choose where Suzuki is made not like your Daewoo&#8217;s.  GM still has a 3% share in the company but I won&#8217;t cry about that. Suzuki was smart when GM offered the sell off, now the company is mostly free of dictatorship&#8230;  Suzuki&#8217;s are mainly built in japan and soon large scale in India, but who care&#8217;s, it has estabished very large respected roots and their racing heritage is much loved by million&#8217;s if you want to argue about this company you are in for a long night</p>
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		<title>By: Driving-Fords-Is-like-XXX</title>
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		<dc:creator>Driving-Fords-Is-like-XXX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 06:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOOK AT THIS HUNK OF JUNK!! :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOOK AT THIS HUNK OF JUNK!! <img src='http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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