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	<title>Comments on: Citroen C3 – As economical as a hybrid</title>
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		<title>By: Eurogeek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eurogeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 03:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James you may like to check the reliability rankings, here is one:

http://www.reliabilityindex.co.uk/man_index_2.html?apc=3128339010848601&amp;searchtype=relindex

You will see that Toyota is now no better than Citroen as a brand in terms of reliability.

From my own experience with a Yaris and C3 - there was a problem with the Toyota&#039;s CD player right after buying a brand new one. It took them some 6 weeks to replace it. I liked my Toyota OK, but I love my C3. Not only because of the 4ltr range of fuel efficiency, but the amazing zippiness and power esp. at high speeds on motorway - you keep accelerating on the 5th geer up the hill to overtake all the big petrol powered cars busy reducing their gears. It also has plenty of small gimmicks and drives like a limo. Yaris seems just very slow, plain, boring and wasteful compared to my C3. Not to mention that you have to service the Yaris every 10K kms and the C3 every 20K. To summarise: I found most of the reviews of the Citroen C3 just plain untrue (this refers to the HDi 1.6 diesel version).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James you may like to check the reliability rankings, here is one:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.reliabilityindex.co.uk/man_index_2.html?apc=3128339010848601&#038;searchtype=relindex" rel="nofollow">http://www.reliabilityindex.co.uk/man_index_2.html?apc=3128339010848601&#038;searchtype=relindex</a></p>
<p>You will see that Toyota is now no better than Citroen as a brand in terms of reliability.</p>
<p>From my own experience with a Yaris and C3 &#8211; there was a problem with the Toyota&#8217;s CD player right after buying a brand new one. It took them some 6 weeks to replace it. I liked my Toyota OK, but I love my C3. Not only because of the 4ltr range of fuel efficiency, but the amazing zippiness and power esp. at high speeds on motorway &#8211; you keep accelerating on the 5th geer up the hill to overtake all the big petrol powered cars busy reducing their gears. It also has plenty of small gimmicks and drives like a limo. Yaris seems just very slow, plain, boring and wasteful compared to my C3. Not to mention that you have to service the Yaris every 10K kms and the C3 every 20K. To summarise: I found most of the reviews of the Citroen C3 just plain untrue (this refers to the HDi 1.6 diesel version).</p>
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		<title>By: James Kally</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Kally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 08:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t trust the Citroen or any French cars as they have really bad reputation on reliability and dependability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t trust the Citroen or any French cars as they have really bad reputation on reliability and dependability.</p>
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		<title>By: ecoangel</title>
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		<dc:creator>ecoangel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TOM, sorry but you need to check facts: Diesel cars always produce less CO2 than Petrol cars - the C3 HDi is 110g/km in 1.4 format.

The Petrol 1.4 C3 model pumps out 148 g/km

This is down to the better thrmal efficiency of diesel - up to 50% (eg: 1.2 TDI in Audi A2 1.2 81g/km and 3L/100km) compared to petrol cars 30% at best.

Also Prius whilstt good around town is less good on longer trips - the 104g/km is based on a combiuned cycle including running on just electric so on a long journey it&#039;s just a 1300kg 1.5L petrol car and CO2 /km goes up accordingly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TOM, sorry but you need to check facts: Diesel cars always produce less CO2 than Petrol cars &#8211; the C3 HDi is 110g/km in 1.4 format.</p>
<p>The Petrol 1.4 C3 model pumps out 148 g/km</p>
<p>This is down to the better thrmal efficiency of diesel &#8211; up to 50% (eg: 1.2 TDI in Audi A2 1.2 81g/km and 3L/100km) compared to petrol cars 30% at best.</p>
<p>Also Prius whilstt good around town is less good on longer trips &#8211; the 104g/km is based on a combiuned cycle including running on just electric so on a long journey it&#8217;s just a 1300kg 1.5L petrol car and CO2 /km goes up accordingly.</p>
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		<title>By: Tonyn</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/7519/citroen-c3-as-economical-as-a-hybrid/#comment-32983</link>
		<dc:creator>Tonyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 00:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Audi have just released a A3 1.9 TDIe that does 4.2l per 100ks.... looks like the euro diesels are threatning the Hybrids, and at least the Euros look prettier then the prius!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Audi have just released a A3 1.9 TDIe that does 4.2l per 100ks&#8230;. looks like the euro diesels are threatning the Hybrids, and at least the Euros look prettier then the prius!</p>
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		<title>By: Alec</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 23:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hendrik, I thought it was the C4 that was voted most beautiful European Car? Not the C3?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hendrik, I thought it was the C4 that was voted most beautiful European Car? Not the C3?</p>
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		<title>By: Darren W</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darren W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 23:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Instead of buying a Prius get the best of both worlds. Get a C3 (or i30) diesel, run it on a biodiesel blend to further reduce carbon emissions and put the $10,000 saved towards rooftop solar panels. Immediate reduction in carbon emmissions rather than waiting 100 plus years for trees to grow and start taking up carbon. For the record neither car is very comfortable so I can&#039;t put them on my shopping list...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Instead of buying a Prius get the best of both worlds. Get a C3 (or i30) diesel, run it on a biodiesel blend to further reduce carbon emissions and put the $10,000 saved towards rooftop solar panels. Immediate reduction in carbon emmissions rather than waiting 100 plus years for trees to grow and start taking up carbon. For the record neither car is very comfortable so I can&#8217;t put them on my shopping list&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bavarian Missile</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bavarian Missile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 23:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very true !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very true !!</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 23:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what better way to start a week off than take the fridy before too</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what better way to start a week off than take the fridy before too</p>
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		<title>By: Bavarian Missile</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bavarian Missile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 23:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are you doing on here in the morning? Thought you were taking next week off?

Your right about Prius&#039;s just a perception I think ! Toyota have done a great job of convincing people there the car to save the environment!

I was told once that the amount of energy used to make a solar panel out ways what it can save the owner or the environment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are you doing on here in the morning? Thought you were taking next week off?</p>
<p>Your right about Prius&#8217;s just a perception I think ! Toyota have done a great job of convincing people there the car to save the environment!</p>
<p>I was told once that the amount of energy used to make a solar panel out ways what it can save the owner or the environment!</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 22:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i thought there were a few small diesels matching the consumption of around 4.4L 100k now.

i also find that a lot of prius&#039;s belong to government departments and im sure they only use them to put out a perception that they care about the environment. yep there is a lot more things that harm the environment than the automotive industry.
so do these government buildings turn all their lights off when they go home? hell that would be worse that leaving the car run overnight!!!!

and do all the private owners have solar power? hell that would be cheaper and better for the environment than a prius!!!
ah but that right you cant drive your solar panel round town to make people think you give a damn

sorry but i would never consider a car based on consumption, practicallity comes first and as reckless stated why not go an I30? well yes why not?
hell im even happy with 10L 100k because i get a car i can actually use and enjoy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i thought there were a few small diesels matching the consumption of around 4.4L 100k now.</p>
<p>i also find that a lot of prius&#8217;s belong to government departments and im sure they only use them to put out a perception that they care about the environment. yep there is a lot more things that harm the environment than the automotive industry.<br />
so do these government buildings turn all their lights off when they go home? hell that would be worse that leaving the car run overnight!!!!</p>
<p>and do all the private owners have solar power? hell that would be cheaper and better for the environment than a prius!!!<br />
ah but that right you cant drive your solar panel round town to make people think you give a damn</p>
<p>sorry but i would never consider a car based on consumption, practicallity comes first and as reckless stated why not go an I30? well yes why not?<br />
hell im even happy with 10L 100k because i get a car i can actually use and enjoy</p>
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