No export for new Falcon ‘Orion’
23 Oct, 2007
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Ford Australia has abandoned plans to export the 2008 Falcon. The company has instead shifted exports plans onto the Focus which is set for local production by 2011.
The move comes as a big surprise with many expecting Ford to follow Holden’s footprints with U.S. and Middle East exports in order to maintain viability. The company has already killed plans for future Fairlane and LTD models.
Less than 18 months ago the Federal and Victorian state governments invested $100 million in Ford to help the blue oval’s left-hand-drive program for the Falcon. Ford says the investment money has been transferred into the Focus program.
Ford predicts that by 2011 over 50,000 Focus units can be built here annually. This would put Focus production levels near that of the Falcon (58,248 units in 2006).
“We can do a lot more with Focus… when we localise it. And localising it, and getting a better cost position, will allow us to go into some segments we don’t go in today. For example we don’t sell any rental cars in Focus, and if you look at Corolla’s mix, it’s heavily rental cars. So there’s volume growth available to us there, profitable growth.” Ford President Tom Gorman told GoAuto
Mr Gorman believes the case for middle-eastern exports is stronger for the Focus than then new Falcon. The new Falcon will go on sale in April 2008
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October 23rd, 2007 at 11:25 am
Geez, why don’t Ford just pack up and leave,
Can they do anything right? Export the Focus? Why?? Why not export a car which no one else in the world can build?
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October 23rd, 2007 at 11:28 am
I just read the GoAuto article and maybe I’m missing something, but they made no mention of Ford not exporting the Orion Falcon?
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October 23rd, 2007 at 11:37 am
You did miss something, Indy. Orion Falcon exports are canned without further ado.
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October 23rd, 2007 at 11:53 am
With the Australian produced Focus be the European or American variant?
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October 23rd, 2007 at 12:09 pm
I suspect there holding off til the “global” V6 is in the Falcon so this announcment is no surprise.
This is two years away so announcing an export plan for Falcon may be premature at this stage.
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October 23rd, 2007 at 1:32 pm
I’m tired of this same old story.
Ford never once mentioned that orion would be exported to any LHD market, simple.
The next all new global RWD platform to be a development between Ford US and Ford AUs will be the one to watch in 2012. This will form the next all new falcon after orion.
Orion will be the last all aussie specific platform, think Holdens Zeta (VE) platform.
Oil prices are high, people are demanding more fuel efficient vehciles, Ford AUS is simply not relying on falcon alone to keep them afloat, smart move in my opinion.
The next all new fcous that will be assembled here in 2011 will be an all new model that will be the same worldwide, including the US version.
So Ford AUS will be assembling focus, territory and falcon, not just one model like Holden and Toyota.
How is this a silly move by Ford??
it appears the media still successfully confuses the general public!
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October 23rd, 2007 at 2:03 pm
I wouldn’t mind betting Blue Blood is right. It would make no sense to take the falcon to the states with an engine upgrade occuring within 2 years or less. Especially with a decrease in displacement likely.
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October 23rd, 2007 at 2:09 pm
Orion will never be exported to the US, the Middle East is the very best chance and thats slim also.
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October 23rd, 2007 at 2:19 pm
Adam is right, there isn’t going to be any exports of the Orion, now or into the future. Just read Gorman’s comments, the $100 million export grant has been shifted to the Focus and its not coming back. You can clearly see from his thoughts that they will now be focusing on getting a successful Focus export program started.
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October 23rd, 2007 at 3:07 pm
Either way you look at it this is not good news for the falcon
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October 23rd, 2007 at 3:26 pm
The Joker said… Geez, why don’t Ford just pack up and leave, Can they do anything right? Export the Focus? Why?? Why not export a car which no one else in the world can build?
Maybe you should pack up and leave. Holden fans with no reason to hate Fords and Just chose to hate them, should pack up and leave.
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October 23rd, 2007 at 3:32 pm
Snags…
You would be incorrect. It’s not bad new for falcon.
If Ford spends it’s development funds the right way it’s good news for Ford AUS overall, why is this so hard for some to understand/grasp?
Ford did territory, they beat Holden. Ford is doing the T6 light truck world wide platform. Ford is getting a deisel for territory and poss falcon, Holden none. Falcon gets a new V6 in 2010.
Ford does many other engineering projects for other Ford posts around the world.
I stand by my original comment, the media still confuses the general public too easily.
Ford AUS is going nowhere anytime soon, i know it’s not more bad news, but it’s the truth.
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October 23rd, 2007 at 3:34 pm
“The company has instead shifted exports plans onto the Focus which is set for local production by 2011.”
That is four years away, they can’t multi-task and do both? Holden will be launching the Torana in 2012, that doesn’t mean they are going to drop everything and ‘focus’ on one thing.
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October 23rd, 2007 at 3:40 pm
It looks like to me that after 2012 the Falcon will be dead once the Orion cycle is complete. The Government gave Ford Australia the funds to develop Falcon for left hand drive export opportunities and Ford have basically said S C R E W you government we will spend it where we please. The Government should take it back and give it to Holden who will be the only one of the two to export a large RWD sedan to markets who want that type of vehicle. Shame Ford Australia Shame. What will the Falcon lovers go to when the Falcon is dead and they want their RWD large sedan. There’s only one choice the mighty lion of the Holden Brand.
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October 23rd, 2007 at 3:40 pm
When the Focus is made here, I don’t think it will be verry cheap.
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October 23rd, 2007 at 3:43 pm
Welcom back, Why is the falcon going to be dead after the Orion? That is just as likly to happen to Holden.
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October 23rd, 2007 at 3:45 pm
Oh hes back and Klinks still in Cairns! DAMN!
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October 23rd, 2007 at 3:46 pm
DOH…reagardless of where the grant mondey goes too, it’s going towards local assembly! which is whats important… falcon, focus and territory, unlike toyota and Holden which do one model only.
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October 23rd, 2007 at 3:51 pm
Soon this section will be under seige by, “Football, Hamburgers, Eagles and Holdenwoo Crap”
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October 23rd, 2007 at 3:52 pm
I doubt any ford person would go to holden football, meat pies, kangaroos and holden cars…
Wake up to yourself, there is plenty of high performance rear wheel drives out there by BMW and Mercedes…. and there not all that un affordable….
Holden make a halfed arsed job of a car and just pray everyone likes what they see, in my Eyes the VE isnt all its cracked up to be, everyone i know hates them! and there not biased, just everyday people who have upgraded to one and ended up dissapointed….. i think ford is no worse off than holden!
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October 23rd, 2007 at 3:53 pm
That person can’t start anything it self, so it waits for someone to start something before it goes off.
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October 23rd, 2007 at 4:18 pm
Well, if FoA FOCUS (sorry! :D) on Focus exports, they will be making 2x the money they would with the Falcon! And the money they will likely make will more than likley go towards the 2010 Falcon (as the Focus is taken car of by FoUK) which will have the Duratec V6, and then in turn, FoNA will think about exports as they know the general US of ‘A’ers would look at it because it has a familiar engine.
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October 23rd, 2007 at 4:28 pm
It wont happen to the Commodore because they already have a established export market which isstill expanding with the Middle East, U.S.A and soon to be announced Europe Market along with the U.K which is already starting to export small amounts with a larger deal soon to be announced. Even if Commodore sales were to halve locally it would still survive until large cars become in favour again.
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October 23rd, 2007 at 4:34 pm
Adam the Commodore, statesman, Caprice and Torana from 2011 are and will be Australian built. You cant say The WM series is based on the VE as they no longer are apart from the motor and some of the features. It shares only the front doors with the VE. If thats the case then Territory can not be included as its based on the Falcon platform. Get your facts right before opening your mouth. And yes the Torana will be made here from 2011.
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October 23rd, 2007 at 4:34 pm
I never said it will be bad for Ford, I said it was bad for the Falcon. Nice attempt at spin though
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October 23rd, 2007 at 4:37 pm
Just imagine what you would get if you take the o out of FoUK. Sounds like Fords to me.
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October 23rd, 2007 at 4:40 pm
Hey Tonyn I asked the other half about the phase 4 parts your car has had since factory including the heads being modified!
He asked if your grandad was a hoon?????hahaha
No seriously they did do weird stuff ,maybe he said there was a problem with heads and they have fixed them in the factory!
What size valves are in he asked?
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October 23rd, 2007 at 4:49 pm
Football, Meatpies, Kangeroos and Holden Cars…
I’m not even attempting to answer you, no point.
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October 23rd, 2007 at 4:52 pm
snags…
No spin at all, i still don’t see the down side for falcon…please tell me why you think so?
Should Ford keep spending as much money on big cars as they did 10 years ago, when the market is shrinking and oil prices will never drop to the level they were even 5 years ago.
Come 2012 when a new RWD platform is released do you think falcon might benefit form the economy of scale it will bring?
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October 23rd, 2007 at 4:59 pm
i will find out…. they were big valves but!!
My grandad hated the car… but my Nan is the hoon!!!
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October 23rd, 2007 at 5:00 pm
What would be bad for falcon…
If Ford doesn’t bring production capacity up to 100% that will be bad for the falcon/territory.
sat big cars do become the favorites again, then Ford can switch between 4cyl and 6cyl production to suit the market shifts.
many were also predicting mondeo would be priced too high also, so far Ford AUS is making some correct moves.
To be honest, we dont know the same info Ford does to make some of the decisions that these auto companies make, until one of us does, we can’t really say they are right or wrong, being on this side of the fence anyhow.
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October 23rd, 2007 at 5:00 pm
EY! Who the hell is that stealing my name -_-
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October 23rd, 2007 at 5:03 pm
football, meatpiesm kangeroos and holden cars….
You would be the second biggest muppet i have met… second only to toyota paul….
I reat the reviews on the GTO, americans slaughtered it and in the UAE statesmans are the lower end of the market…. holden shouldnt be put on the pedistal you guys all put it on, other than astra and maybe commodore…. holden import sub standard motor products but australians keep on accepting it because they are loyal to holden…. and why should they?
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October 23rd, 2007 at 5:06 pm
Go NAN………. I guess that will be me one day!!!!Not to soon though! Gee its bad enough that your almost the same age as my son Tonyn and we chat……imagine talking to a gran mother about cars hahahaha
Let me know when you can on the valves!
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October 23rd, 2007 at 5:11 pm
my nan tried to drive the Gt again about a month ago…. but she cant even touch the steering wheel now she has been spoilt with power steering!!
My nan only will talk Gt’s and john goss or alan moffatt… she doesnt care for any other car or driver…. now she is a cool granmother in my eyes!!!
i will get the specs out when i get home and will let you know!
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October 23rd, 2007 at 5:12 pm
turn the steering wheel i ment!!
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October 23rd, 2007 at 5:32 pm
Yep you need arms like Arny to turn them ha…….Just as well they have big steering wheels!
Brett had power steer in his Green XA Coupe..was too light sometimes dangerous!
May get Brett to answer you if you email tonight his much more mechanical than me! Of course he is,he was one!
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October 23rd, 2007 at 6:14 pm
Football hamburgers eagles and Holdenwoo crap, you went on if you take O out of FoUK. It won’t be what you think it is. **** is spelt F_U_C_K, you think it’s FUK, maybe you need to go back to school, but by the sound of you, I think you still going though school.
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October 23rd, 2007 at 6:25 pm
meat pies,
one thing is the government wont issue money uless it is actually being used in the intended way.
who cares if you cant get a falcon in the states before 2010 or of at all?? as long as i can get my falcon here im happy. falcon wont die as it has supported itself here solely and longer than the commy.
focus may be the bigger economical deal as the focus has more market share it can chase down.
also ford US is capable of producing it own vehicles still as they have released their new range, where as GM prob are a little more desperate
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October 23rd, 2007 at 6:41 pm
The Australian Falcon has been made here with it’s own shape since the 60s. That’s more than 30 years and it survied, I don’t under stand what “Football Hamburgers Eagles And Holdenwoo Crap” was going on about saying it will fail.
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October 23rd, 2007 at 6:58 pm
@Adam [aka Mada]
Heres to hoping does work out fine for the Falcon in 2012, but it just seems like it could suffer the same fait as the Fairlane which lacked the exports and funding Holden’s Statesman had. Guess theyve got it sorted, we’ll see
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October 23rd, 2007 at 7:05 pm
football, meatpies, kangaroos and sh*tbox cars….
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October 23rd, 2007 at 7:09 pm
caprice sales are nothing with out fleet
fairlane had no fleet sales so it wasnt viable.
caprice has every fleet sale…..so caprice is viable
the 300c matches caprice/statesman for sales with pretty much no fleet help.
that to me means private buyers are bored with our big LWB variants and if they are spending big dollars for the purpose of luxury then they want something that is different
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October 23rd, 2007 at 8:16 pm
NFL, Hamburgers, Eagles and Holdenwoo shit - Means more to the USA.
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October 23rd, 2007 at 8:23 pm
I think one of the reasons why the Fairlane went down and stoped was because Ford didn’t come out with a whole new one when the BF came out. The only update was G220 changed to G8, the update from a 182kw to a 190kw and the Z6 auto. If Ford came out with a whole new fairlane it would still be around.
Seems Ford wanted it too stop beacause they made the BF Fairmont more classy than the Fairlane.
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October 23rd, 2007 at 8:32 pm
my uncle is here from the states…and he’s a massive for fanatic…he loves the aussie fords…and so do most of the yanks he knows. ford usa needs a good kick up the design backside….and take a chunk out of europe and australia.
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October 23rd, 2007 at 8:38 pm
The problem at the moment is that ford australia is not at full capacity. This is costing them money, and to fill that extra capacity with anything like the focus would benefit ford. The profit they get from the focus can then be sent to develop the falcon as there was no cost in developing the focus except for the typical tooling costs and as such, which should keep the cost of the focus down. The fact that the falcon is an aussie only vehicle and not some piece of poo designed with compromises for other countries makes the falcon just that little bit more special than the truely common commodore.
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October 23rd, 2007 at 9:01 pm
everytime i see the pontiac website and see the g8…i laugh and say…its just a commodore…hahaha…nothing spesh…too common for my liking…the new ve is nice…but the design is far too safe, and to spend all that money [1 billion] and make a car one generation ahead of the falcon, yet thirstier boggles the mind!
ford australia should keep to its guns…its over the post au recovery phase and now into the maturing of the rebuilding phase. now its the future phase they need to work on…better products [seen from europe], local excellence [falcon, territory] and performance bred machinery [fpv] ford will triumph in the long run. what ford usa needs to do is lose all their crap cars [us focus, crown victoria] and get the large rear wheel car from the falcon platform…and make the true focus from europe the true small car for ford globally.
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October 23rd, 2007 at 9:07 pm
well said astro boy,
whats wrong with the falcon being designed solely for australia rather than a compromise?
im almost positive the flared guards on the VE are a compromise for the US market to fit the NASCAR theme and give the yanks something warm and familiar to cling to
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October 23rd, 2007 at 9:13 pm
look at it this way Ford want to TRY and make some money unlike Holden with the G8. ford has seen the way the aus$ is goin and thought there is no coin to be made. Plus with the intro of Focus and new Falcon sales boost hopefully when it comes out as well as the ute and territory they will not have the capacity without commiting to a 3rd shift and we all know how well that went for holden, also how much it cost them to get rid of it. It will be better for them to wait and see how sales go then see what they can commit to and how the aus$ goes because the last thing Ford would want to do is not be able to fully supply the US if the aus market is doing well. In a contradiction to my first sentence which I said coz Holden are utter crap n the korean rubbish looks like a busted arsehole, back to what I was saying I just dont see the aus made focus lasting as it is not viable to make small cars in this country and sell them at a competitive price, thats why no one has tried to do it, but i may eat my words if it works for them but i doubt it, atleast they will give it ago n what have they got to loose! There screwed in this country if they dont increase production! Oops that ended up being a dam essay!
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October 23rd, 2007 at 9:20 pm
Oops i forgot the corolla in the 90’s but that ended for the fact that it is hard to make money here with small cars.
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October 23rd, 2007 at 9:30 pm
Holden don’t make just one car..
Ford make the Falcon, Ute and Territory. Holden make the Commodore; Statesman; Ute and Wagon.. the score 3-4
In the Future :
Ford will make the Focus. Holden Will make the Torana.. the score 4-5
Don’t forget the Exports
Ford will export the Focus. Holden will export the G8; Caprice; G6 and Ute.. the score 5-9
Oh and the possibility of locally built sports cars. The Next Gen Ford Mustang and The Next Gen Monaro.. the score
6-10.
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October 23rd, 2007 at 9:37 pm
I agree wheelnut, but you forgot about the Falcon wagon.
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October 23rd, 2007 at 10:36 pm
Who gives a SH*T if the orion won’t be exported to USA. It still goes to NZ and Fiji, doen’t it?
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October 23rd, 2007 at 10:57 pm
When Football Head came back, he wasn’t trying to fight dirty with me like last time. Maybe Because hes a bit of a chicken head.
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October 24th, 2007 at 12:43 am
As long as there are taxis in Australia, the Falcon won’t be going anywhere… it might be called something else and based on a different platform than now, but it will live on.
There’s a reason why most taxis are Ford.
Same reason they use Skoda Octavias as taxis elsewhere in the world.
Besides, how did Holden come into the conversation anyway?? Both manufacturers have said many years ago that they are not in direct competition with each other… Aussies seem to think they are.
Steve
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October 24th, 2007 at 12:49 am
Yay another Holden/Ford battle. After being in the VE Omega I understand how people feel; but then I went in the Senator and was definitely impressed from a quality/performance/and capability stand point - the car just totally surpasses the VZ; it’s not like they took the Omega and added - it’s a totally different car.
I think Ford can easily beat the Omega, but the Senator - not so sure. It will be interesting to see what FPV does with the new Orion platform. Definitely a new Typhoon please!
The reason Ford won’t export is the dollar is too high for the US. Same reason why the Holden Ute isn’t going out - can’t push a cheap enough car in the ‘States. Their market is too competitive.
What’s hurting Holden is they seem reluctant to add a diesel lineup into the VE platform. Ford should leap on this opportunity with the new Orion.
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October 24th, 2007 at 1:08 pm
he “me”…grow up you twit.
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October 24th, 2007 at 3:17 pm
Whos cares what type of variant Ford or Holden make, the point is Ford can adapt to 4cyl and 6cyl production, Holden can’t.
So lets see what happens in the next 3-4 years time, Ford will have a diesel territory, a new focus to build and a new V6 for falcons first major facelift.
Yeah Ford appears to be ‘winding down’…
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October 24th, 2007 at 3:32 pm
Yes Me, what drugs are you on! You must be 14 years old.
Don’t get mixed up with my old name!
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October 24th, 2007 at 3:34 pm
The Territoy was the best selling 4wd when it came out and might do again when the Diesel engine goes up into it.
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October 24th, 2007 at 4:46 pm
hey everybody i would first and foremost like to apologize for my immature behaviour i have finally realised what a biased, immature pathetic waste of space and time i am. This is mainly due to the fact that i’ve realised that holden isn’t australian owned thus i have decided to change my name to:
Basketball,Waffles, Llamas and GM Corperation
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October 24th, 2007 at 4:52 pm
Bravo!
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October 24th, 2007 at 7:53 pm
No, you shoud of had eagles in your name!!
LOL
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October 24th, 2007 at 8:25 pm
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
come on who was that? he he he he he
yeah wheelnut the falcon wagon?
ford dont have a competitor to the senator. the only thing that i see that would come close might be a fairmont turbo in the FPV stables and that is a high possibility i think. i think turbo 6’s would seem a little more acceptable in the luxury end of vehicles compared to big 8’s
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October 25th, 2007 at 12:36 am
I’d love to see a turbo Fairmont based ultra lux car based on the new Orion.
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October 25th, 2007 at 8:48 am
Don’t you think they will revive the Fairlane?
That was you Andrew…….too intelligent in remarks to come from the original poster!!!!
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October 25th, 2007 at 10:04 am
i stand corrected, llamas was the only thing that came to my head. don’t blame wheelnut, as i am a new poster to this website.
but seriously though how much of an idiot is Football, Meatpies, Kangeroos and Holden Cars
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October 25th, 2007 at 1:28 pm
haha yeah i used to go with the name hatman but i user by the name of Vt Man decided to have a go at that with a patetic little joke so i think i’ll stick with Basketball,Waffles, Eagles and GM Corperation.
Vt Man said this about my old user name:
“what kind of a name is hatman!! is it the man of the hat or the hat of the man :P”….which totally makes no sense then his mate “me.” decides to have a go at myself.
so mate i do agree with you when you say “me.” is an idiot
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October 25th, 2007 at 9:49 pm
‘Andrew M Says:
October 24th, 2007 at 8:25 pm
ford dont have a competitor to the senator. the only thing that i see that would come close might be a fairmont turbo in the FPV stables and that is a high possibility i think. i think turbo 6’s would seem a little more acceptable in the luxury end of vehicles compared to big 8’s’
Then tell bently that its a bad idea to move to the quad turbo w16 for the new arnage.
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October 25th, 2007 at 10:15 pm
Whats that got to do with the price of eggs in China!!!!!!!
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October 25th, 2007 at 11:08 pm
Going Ford, Is The Going Thing Says:
October 25th, 2007 @ 1:07 pm
“About as much of a idiot as me, sad to say.”
That was not me that made that comment.
LOL to what you said about Football Hamburgers Eagles and Holdenwoo crap, but what you said about me was not funny! Yes it was “sad to say” but you are you? What did I do to you?
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October 25th, 2007 at 11:12 pm
I’m so Sorry hatman! It really was funny what you said about VT MAN. I went too far with the next comment, but thats no reason to say “ME.” is an idiot and use my name!
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October 26th, 2007 at 9:19 am
I live my life one post at a time. For those 20 or more incoherently strewn together words, I look like an utter tool.
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October 26th, 2007 at 9:55 pm
Mark,
i think every one has skipped over the point you made.
BM brought to my attention an article that was related to toyotas export program, and even the gigantic toyota motor company is starting to suffer the effects of the strengthening aussie dollar, and possible lowering of import taxes.
Quote from toyota exec’s “very serious problem”
perhaps the reasoning ford is using to not get too excited about it. maybe ford has seen the writing on the wall???
thanks for that article missile very interesting……
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October 27th, 2007 at 2:04 pm
Going Ford, Is The Going Thing Says:
October 26th, 2007@9:19 am
I live my life one post at a time. For those 20 or more incoherently strewn together words, I look like an utter tool.
Yes the person using my name does look like an utter tool!
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October 27th, 2007 at 2:55 pm
Andrew M; the reason the VE has flared guards is because..
the designers took the opportunity to push the front wheels further forward to improve the weight distribution -the engine now sits in behind the front wheels instead of over or in front of them.
They then pushed them a little further out making the track wider and improve performance and handling. It also allows for a more spacious cabin.
As For Holden not having a Diesel.. The VE2 will not only have a V8 with DOD and a Diesel V6. Doubt the Diesel will be standard it’s more likely to be a “No Cost Option”.
Then there’s the twin Turbo V6 [for the Torana] and the smaller “Northstar” DOHC V8 [for a new base model Commodore].. Both due around 2010 by which time Holden would have reverted back to Opels thanks to Chris Gubbey.
Holden could also use one of the various 4 cylinder engines the Holden Engine Company [build in Melbourne and] export to other countries/companies.
Afterall the VB Commodore was originally a 4 Cylinder and
as the Japanese have shown a well engineered 4 can produce as much power as a 6 the same way a well engineerd 6 can produce as much power as a V8
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October 27th, 2007 at 3:06 pm
wheelnut,
but the proportion of overall width to track width is still pretty much the same for both the commy and falcon.
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October 28th, 2007 at 7:00 pm
I realise that the dimensions/proportions remain the same.
But my point was that Holden didn’t design those Flares just to look good for the Yanks; and after seeing what they’ve done to the Commodore [with the front of the G8] its pretty obvious they’re not really concerned with Looks
As I said by pushing the wheels as far out as possible and getting as much of the engine as you can to sit within the wheelbase will improve Performance and Handling - which is evident in the various reviews of the VE by Wheels/Motor
The thing is that in various pictures I have seen of the Orion it appears that Ford have done the same thing.. And in some shots the front guards have a more pronounced flare to them - just not as much as the VE
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October 29th, 2007 at 6:37 pm
I would be interested in how much GMH is making at the moment along with Toyota selling their cars OS! Most sales men tell us when buying new cars “theres not much in it for us,sorry cant lower the price” So what do the car manufactures make here when on selling them to the US ect? With the dollar now up to 92cents in the US the gap is decreasing! It costs the same to make a car in Aus and sell it to the locals as it does OS customers…..manufactures here would make more selling to the locals than the OS customers cause they in turn have to on sell in their country at a competitive price! So unless its HUGE quantities I can’t see the point with the dollar continuing upwards!! Is it just for recognition???
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November 17th, 2007 at 11:41 am
This post is called “No export for new Falcon Orion”. Does that mean they not going to be sold in NZ anymore?
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November 17th, 2007 at 11:56 am
no all RHD exports will remain, LHD exports have been canned
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November 17th, 2007 at 4:58 pm
Thought that’s what they mean, export means going to other countrys and it’s called “No export for new Falcon ‘Orion’”
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November 17th, 2007 at 5:10 pm
Na…..NZ is a state of Australia .hahaha
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November 17th, 2007 at 6:20 pm
But don’t Falcons also go to New Ginea and Fiji? If not now I think they did once.
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December 19th, 2007 at 10:06 pm
Where the hell is that “Hatman” Who called himself “Basketball,Waffles, Eagles and GM Corperation” and my old name here?
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January 25th, 2008 at 3:25 pm
Andrew M said….
“ford dont have a competitor to the senator. the only thing that i see that would come close might be a fairmont turbo in the FPV stables and that is a high possibility i think. i think turbo 6’s would seem a little more acceptable in the luxury end of vehicles compared to big 8’s”
How could you forget the FPV Force
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