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		<title>By: Ford Fan</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/7356/toyota-slips-in-reliability/#comment-44898</link>
		<dc:creator>Ford Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 11:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fords are outdated pieces of fucking shit. Ford are in real shit, due to the lack of quality. Drove a territory with 1000km on it, was falling to bits. Leavers and knobs were faulty, it just simply was rubbish. A mate of mine has a Territory GHIA (35,000km on the clock now) and is extremely un-happy with it, and is about to trade it in for a Liberty GT. I bought a manual falcon for a sister, the gearbox was just rubbish. Don&#039;t let me start on the falcons shape. Its just outdated by yearssssss.
Now the the commodores.
What was that like 3 recalls?
I love the VE, no doubt about that, but 3 recalls is that time period is not impressive.
But don&#039;t get me started on the Epica and Captiva. Both made in korea, and let me tell you they hide the compliance plates well! Even the salesman refuse to admit where there made, i asked one &quot;Are there made in belgium&quot; Salesman 2 &quot;I don&#039;t know&quot;
If Holden, or in fact any car maker does this, they will lose sales.
The 380-
One cra i&#039;ve never driven, it has good review, but just doesn&#039;t sell. I personally dislike the shape.
And to Toyota, I do admit there quality is slipping, well sort of.
The South African corolla was pretty dodgy, but they learn&#039;t and are now building the corollas in Japan.
The Aurion and Camry are Australian built cars, but still exceed the falcons qaulity. If this new Falcon isn&#039;t a hit, I have grave fears for Ford Australia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fords are outdated pieces of fucking shit. Ford are in real shit, due to the lack of quality. Drove a territory with 1000km on it, was falling to bits. Leavers and knobs were faulty, it just simply was rubbish. A mate of mine has a Territory GHIA (35,000km on the clock now) and is extremely un-happy with it, and is about to trade it in for a Liberty GT. I bought a manual falcon for a sister, the gearbox was just rubbish. Don&#8217;t let me start on the falcons shape. Its just outdated by yearssssss.<br />
Now the the commodores.<br />
What was that like 3 recalls?<br />
I love the VE, no doubt about that, but 3 recalls is that time period is not impressive.<br />
But don&#8217;t get me started on the Epica and Captiva. Both made in korea, and let me tell you they hide the compliance plates well! Even the salesman refuse to admit where there made, i asked one &#8220;Are there made in belgium&#8221; Salesman 2 &#8220;I don&#8217;t know&#8221;<br />
If Holden, or in fact any car maker does this, they will lose sales.<br />
The 380-<br />
One cra i&#8217;ve never driven, it has good review, but just doesn&#8217;t sell. I personally dislike the shape.<br />
And to Toyota, I do admit there quality is slipping, well sort of.<br />
The South African corolla was pretty dodgy, but they learn&#8217;t and are now building the corollas in Japan.<br />
The Aurion and Camry are Australian built cars, but still exceed the falcons qaulity. If this new Falcon isn&#8217;t a hit, I have grave fears for Ford Australia.</p>
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		<title>By: Bavarian Missile</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/7356/toyota-slips-in-reliability/#comment-32663</link>
		<dc:creator>Bavarian Missile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 08:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arrr so we have a goldfish and an elephant!hahaha

Sorry honey but your first post of the day is serious!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arrr so we have a goldfish and an elephant!hahaha</p>
<p>Sorry honey but your first post of the day is serious!</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/7356/toyota-slips-in-reliability/#comment-32660</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 08:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yep paul is a goldfish (very short memory)
mate you went off at me and called me a liar because you denied you said toyotas have bullet proof reliability, when you had said it.

also i have never said fords have better track reliability so what the hell straight back to ya!!!! i conceded that one remember??? i have defended the way you make out that fords are absolutely shocking and pieces of shite. (and yes you have said that)
have you ever owned a ford?
if you have you would find that their quality is acceptable. maybe not the best but quite acceptable none the less.

so what about the safety aspect?? are you still trying to say toyotas have a better or at least equal safety track record? because they dont.
dont be so biased and realise that the only thing that toyotas have going for them is their track record in reliability. and now they are even losing that</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yep paul is a goldfish (very short memory)<br />
mate you went off at me and called me a liar because you denied you said toyotas have bullet proof reliability, when you had said it.</p>
<p>also i have never said fords have better track reliability so what the hell straight back to ya!!!! i conceded that one remember??? i have defended the way you make out that fords are absolutely shocking and pieces of shite. (and yes you have said that)<br />
have you ever owned a ford?<br />
if you have you would find that their quality is acceptable. maybe not the best but quite acceptable none the less.</p>
<p>so what about the safety aspect?? are you still trying to say toyotas have a better or at least equal safety track record? because they dont.<br />
dont be so biased and realise that the only thing that toyotas have going for them is their track record in reliability. and now they are even losing that</p>
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		<title>By: Toyota Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/7356/toyota-slips-in-reliability/#comment-32494</link>
		<dc:creator>Toyota Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 10:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are you on Andrew.M... and abuse you what the hell? Lets deal with facts, Ford equal last on reliability when you say they are decent while Toyota is in top4 when I said they were. One person is right, one is wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are you on Andrew.M&#8230; and abuse you what the hell? Lets deal with facts, Ford equal last on reliability when you say they are decent while Toyota is in top4 when I said they were. One person is right, one is wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/7356/toyota-slips-in-reliability/#comment-32477</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 09:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dont abuse me if you cant get your terminology right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dont abuse me if you cant get your terminology right.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/7356/toyota-slips-in-reliability/#comment-32476</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 09:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so is it on the side of the road with a broken water pump (or whatever) or on the side of the road dead for you today sir?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so is it on the side of the road with a broken water pump (or whatever) or on the side of the road dead for you today sir?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 08:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul no no no
i havent barged in saying toyotas dont have reliability, i have tried to say that toyotas arent invincible like you go on and on and on about. and for the record if you actually read what i say, i have said that toyota has a better track record when it comes to defects

sorry paul i must have missed a unit of physcology where they say bulletproof doesnt mean bulletproof.
are you 12 and say sometimes yes means no?
mate all im saying is how can you call me a liar when you specifically claim you did not say those words yet you did? why did you not just debate what you meant by it?

so what about the safety? you know something that many people would regard as being more important</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul no no no<br />
i havent barged in saying toyotas dont have reliability, i have tried to say that toyotas arent invincible like you go on and on and on about. and for the record if you actually read what i say, i have said that toyota has a better track record when it comes to defects</p>
<p>sorry paul i must have missed a unit of physcology where they say bulletproof doesnt mean bulletproof.<br />
are you 12 and say sometimes yes means no?<br />
mate all im saying is how can you call me a liar when you specifically claim you did not say those words yet you did? why did you not just debate what you meant by it?</p>
<p>so what about the safety? you know something that many people would regard as being more important</p>
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		<title>By: Toyota Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/7356/toyota-slips-in-reliability/#comment-32469</link>
		<dc:creator>Toyota Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 08:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No there is no going quiet, if I cant see the article being posted at Im not going searching. There is nothing to say sorry about, by bulletproof I meant they have solid reliability, when I mentioned I never said it I meant in the context you were putting it in... that toyota NEVER has problems. Im well aware of them, my car was one of them that had sludge issues (not actually more car but the generation). Your just playing on words here when the fact is, you barged into the TRD thread agreeing with some clown that Toyota doesnt have reliability... and Ive shown they are dam good while Ford who you claimed did have good reliability, were equal last.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No there is no going quiet, if I cant see the article being posted at Im not going searching. There is nothing to say sorry about, by bulletproof I meant they have solid reliability, when I mentioned I never said it I meant in the context you were putting it in&#8230; that toyota NEVER has problems. Im well aware of them, my car was one of them that had sludge issues (not actually more car but the generation). Your just playing on words here when the fact is, you barged into the TRD thread agreeing with some clown that Toyota doesnt have reliability&#8230; and Ive shown they are dam good while Ford who you claimed did have good reliability, were equal last.</p>
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		<title>By: Going Ford, Is The Going Thing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Going Ford, Is The Going Thing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 08:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul is sulking. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul is sulking. <img src='http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 08:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes paul just go quiet for a bit now and then come on again and try the &quot;i never said it&quot; line again like you have i think 3 times now. you are either in denial or you seriously have a memory span of a gold fish</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes paul just go quiet for a bit now and then come on again and try the &#8220;i never said it&#8221; line again like you have i think 3 times now. you are either in denial or you seriously have a memory span of a gold fish</p>
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