Yes a porsche may be better but an Enzo would be better than both. When price comes into the equation the nissan on top by miles

Other then that. I love this car. Porsche is not agressive enough for me. But you dont argue the tastes. Lets just celebrate an awsome achievement by NISSAN! Cheers!

listen i read ur post… about having to live in japan for a year… to get the gtr (or any other car) back to oz… could u give me the details… the thing is… ive already started making plans post college… hehe… do u think work holiday works? coz i figure… that ways id be able to get the car back with abt 70-80 aud… and plus have a japan stint on my resume… presuming i get work there. i really dont want to pay 120 as thats the final figure thats coming out for the base.

thanks man…

If the car sells here for $150-180k, I don’t think too many people would be willing to shell out that sort of money for a Nissan. The brand just doesn’t have the kind of attraction to sway potential buyers of Porsches, BMWs and the like away from their 911s, M6s, etc. Let alone potential buyers of Ferraris, Lamborghinis, etc (which if the GTR can indeed go from 0-100 in 3.6s onto 300kmh+ then it can compete with, at least in the performance stakes).

Yes, it’s a magnificent technological achievement, and it fills a niche, but noway it’s going to outsell the 911, regardless of whether it’s cheaper and faster.

Engineers will buy GTR, Lawyers will buy Porches…. assuming they are sold at expected prices (GTR about 2/3 price of Porsche 911)

Its best for your buck.

Mind you if the performance is the same and the price is the same, I will pick the Porsche too… main reason it has that “Prestige” aura… and the name Porsche is more synonimous with “upper” class… even though under the bonnet and the underbody… from engineering point of view… is equal…. basically.. you rather be seen in a Porsche as it is generally respected by the ignorant masses as straight away “better” just by reputation and name.

Porsche is very well engineered… as German engineering is known for precision… But as of late, Japan has established many many tech centers in Europe and in a limited time have improved dramatically in terms of producing vehicles to match German’s best. Thats the truth…. obviously, everyday production car’s you won’t really see or experience direct influences… but the higher class brands such as Infiniti, Lexus, Acura etc… they all are heavily bench marked against the Germans, as I said before, Lexus is the closest one to matching Germany’s best… and in the future, the way things are going, Japan looks like they will equal the Germans and maybe even exceed them as the gap in knowledge and technology between the 2 is erased… Japan has the advantage of “efficient” methods.

I said it before on other threads..

this car is going to be 160~180K AUD.

You see, in US and Japan they can afford to sell it at that price since the demand is much higher than Oz.

In OZ, sports cars and the market isnt big enough to sell it as a “low” production car…. the price is actually based on the sports cars being classified as “extremely low” production car, as I stated the market is very small. So to compensate AND, for the manufacturer to take advantage… they mark the price severely.

Other examples… ahem… depressing news..

The IS350 is sold for 35k in US… expected to sell for sub 85K in AU.

Currently, the 350Z is being sold from 26K USD… AU is 65K starting price…..

Porsche 911 Turbo here, is around 120K brand new… AU is around 250K+…

Depressed yet?

You get my point…

In about 3-4 years, Japan’s second hand market is very good, I expect this to sell for equivalent of $60K AUD… IF…IF you buy it there… If you wait for importers, it’ll be around $120~$130K AUD. Trick is you have to live in Japan and own it for a year to take it back home. My plans exactly…. part of the job to live there… :-)

It’s not in the price bracket for the 911, it doesn’t carry the highbrow prestige or ‘refinement’, or accolades as the 911. But it makes up for these essentially social stigmas by being MUCH cheaper, and by all accounts, faster. How is this NOT a fantastic achievement? Even if it matched the 911, even if it was a few hundreths slower, it would be a serious achievement price/performance wise.

GT-R’s no 350z, different chassis, drivetrain, engine.. list goes on.

I’d be surprised if it sells for less than $150K given the luxury car tax and inport duty than the fact Nissan will want to make a considerable profit on such a eagerly anticipated cult car..
Which puts it in the same price range as the M3 and Audi S5

On what basis?

If the GT-R looks like a souped up 350Z to you, then you could say that a 911T is just a souped up Volkswagen. I mean take a regular 911, add twin turbos, 4WD and guess what? You have a 911T. And yes, that’s exactly what Nissan have done too.

Your point about other companies bringing out their version of the GT-R is a moot one, as they haven’t. And that’s exactly why Nissan have the limelight.

The whole reason that the GT-R is going to be such a hit, is that it gives you Porsche performance for Nissan price. It was specifically benchmarked against the 911T for performance only. And on that basis, the Nissan wins.

I’m not sure why that’s such a bad thing….