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	<title>Comments on: Holden VE Commodore Sportwagon</title>
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		<title>By: Roberts</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/7324/holden-ve-commodore-sportwagon/comment-page-2/#comment-136582</link>
		<dc:creator>Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 04:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a 2005 VZ sedan thats done 225,000kms and have had no problems with it, however my sister in law has a new Omega Sportswagon company car and has had heaps of trouble with it after doing 30,000 kms. She had the preivious VZ executive wagon before and it was sold after hitting a huge 350,000kms with no problems (it was just 3 yrs old). She has also said that the space is horrbile as well as the blind spots compared to her VZ wagon and would prefer to drive a 350,000kms VZ executive before jumping happily into the new sportswagon. I have to purchase a wagon myself, in order to care for my grandmother, but I am definately going to look for a VZ executive wagon before even going into Holden to purchase a new sportswagon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a 2005 VZ sedan thats done 225,000kms and have had no problems with it, however my sister in law has a new Omega Sportswagon company car and has had heaps of trouble with it after doing 30,000 kms. She had the preivious VZ executive wagon before and it was sold after hitting a huge 350,000kms with no problems (it was just 3 yrs old). She has also said that the space is horrbile as well as the blind spots compared to her VZ wagon and would prefer to drive a 350,000kms VZ executive before jumping happily into the new sportswagon. I have to purchase a wagon myself, in order to care for my grandmother, but I am definately going to look for a VZ executive wagon before even going into Holden to purchase a new sportswagon.</p>
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		<title>By: Duck</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/7324/holden-ve-commodore-sportwagon/comment-page-2/#comment-83193</link>
		<dc:creator>Duck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 02:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^Damn...........I can&#039;t wait to see them at my local dealer!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^Damn&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..I can&#8217;t wait to see them at my local dealer!</p>
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		<title>By: Wheelnut</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/7324/holden-ve-commodore-sportwagon/comment-page-2/#comment-82703</link>
		<dc:creator>Wheelnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 01:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Duck - FYI the Holden VE Sportwagon was released on July 1.. I saw one [A Phantom Black Calais-V; 6 Speed Manual] this morning at my Local Holden Dealership - Looks awesome!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Duck &#8211; FYI the Holden VE Sportwagon was released on July 1.. I saw one [A Phantom Black Calais-V; 6 Speed Manual] this morning at my Local Holden Dealership &#8211; Looks awesome!</p>
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		<title>By: themarvel</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/7324/holden-ve-commodore-sportwagon/comment-page-1/#comment-78222</link>
		<dc:creator>themarvel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 00:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey,
I work near the Holden plant in Adelaide (Elizabeth) and saw two new Sportwagons on the road today - out for a drive straight off the production line - no plates. Looked very nice, though I only saw them for a few seconds. From the front look just like a regular VE, but the side and rear profile looks good on the road.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey,<br />
I work near the Holden plant in Adelaide (Elizabeth) and saw two new Sportwagons on the road today &#8211; out for a drive straight off the production line &#8211; no plates. Looked very nice, though I only saw them for a few seconds. From the front look just like a regular VE, but the side and rear profile looks good on the road.</p>
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		<title>By: will vcbrock</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/7324/holden-ve-commodore-sportwagon/comment-page-1/#comment-48236</link>
		<dc:creator>will vcbrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 10:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cant wait to trade in my adventra and buy the ssv wagon it has more of a european look and no doubt it will have street cred also</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cant wait to trade in my adventra and buy the ssv wagon it has more of a european look and no doubt it will have street cred also</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/7324/holden-ve-commodore-sportwagon/comment-page-1/#comment-39799</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 11:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Henaz,
the main problem with the adventura was it was basically a commy wagon with a lot of after thought items tacked on to it.
maybe it didnt sell aswell cause people werent keen to fork out the extra for what was a commy with stuck on flares.
the territory was far more innovative and fresh compared to anything else that was on offer hence it sold well</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Henaz,<br />
the main problem with the adventura was it was basically a commy wagon with a lot of after thought items tacked on to it.<br />
maybe it didnt sell aswell cause people werent keen to fork out the extra for what was a commy with stuck on flares.<br />
the territory was far more innovative and fresh compared to anything else that was on offer hence it sold well</p>
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		<title>By: henaz</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/7324/holden-ve-commodore-sportwagon/comment-page-1/#comment-39794</link>
		<dc:creator>henaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 10:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey adam...give the adventra a break, it was a good car that deserves respect...just because the territory sold a few more cars because it was cheaper and used less petrol dosnt mean the adventra was a bad car...our family owns a adventra and its great, yes it may use over 16L per 100k, but atleast it&#039;ll get you to your destination in style and you&#039;ll have a great ride. You&#039;ll also be able to go practicly anywhere a big 4wd will be able to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey adam&#8230;give the adventra a break, it was a good car that deserves respect&#8230;just because the territory sold a few more cars because it was cheaper and used less petrol dosnt mean the adventra was a bad car&#8230;our family owns a adventra and its great, yes it may use over 16L per 100k, but atleast it&#8217;ll get you to your destination in style and you&#8217;ll have a great ride. You&#8217;ll also be able to go practicly anywhere a big 4wd will be able to go.</p>
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		<title>By: Pontiac wants VE Ute and Sportwagon &#187; Autos Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/7324/holden-ve-commodore-sportwagon/comment-page-1/#comment-38003</link>
		<dc:creator>Pontiac wants VE Ute and Sportwagon &#187; Autos Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] General Motors has announced plans to expand its family of rear-wheel-drive vehicles for its subsidiary brand Pontiac. The Pontiac G8 range, better known as the VE Commodore, will go on sale beginning with the sedan (Commodore) and expand to include the VE Ute and Sportwagon. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] General Motors has announced plans to expand its family of rear-wheel-drive vehicles for its subsidiary brand Pontiac. The Pontiac G8 range, better known as the VE Commodore, will go on sale beginning with the sedan (Commodore) and expand to include the VE Ute and Sportwagon. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Holden Ute and Sportwagon US bound &#38;raquo Australian Car Advice &#124; News Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/7324/holden-ve-commodore-sportwagon/comment-page-1/#comment-37853</link>
		<dc:creator>Holden Ute and Sportwagon US bound &#38;raquo Australian Car Advice &#124; News Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 02:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Australian export Pontiac range is set to grow with the possible introduction of the Holden Ute and Sportwagon to their [...]</description>
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		<title>By: wheelnut</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/7324/holden-ve-commodore-sportwagon/comment-page-1/#comment-33067</link>
		<dc:creator>wheelnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 10:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark The reason the majority of parts of both the Commodore and the Falcon [current and upcoming] come from overseas is merely a matter of economics.

Because the Australian market is so small when compared to the rest of the world. If Holden and Ford wanted to make all their own compontnts it would cost a hell of a lot more as a result the cars would cost more.. and the life cycle of a car would be greater than it is now 

It would also be unlikely that the current Commodore or Falcon would have SRS; or ABS due to the high initial set up costs and the time it would take to recover the costs

Fact of the Matter is both Holden and Ford rely on external; specialist suppliers..and it&#039;s not up to the car manufacturers to dictate where their suppliers set up their factories. The suppliers are so good at what they do that they can make the parts cheaper than we ever could. 

I&#039;m all for an All Australian Made Car However I doubt that very few people would be prepared to pay $60;000 for a basic Falcon or Commodore.. Not even the die-hard fans</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark The reason the majority of parts of both the Commodore and the Falcon [current and upcoming] come from overseas is merely a matter of economics.</p>
<p>Because the Australian market is so small when compared to the rest of the world. If Holden and Ford wanted to make all their own compontnts it would cost a hell of a lot more as a result the cars would cost more.. and the life cycle of a car would be greater than it is now </p>
<p>It would also be unlikely that the current Commodore or Falcon would have SRS; or ABS due to the high initial set up costs and the time it would take to recover the costs</p>
<p>Fact of the Matter is both Holden and Ford rely on external; specialist suppliers..and it&#8217;s not up to the car manufacturers to dictate where their suppliers set up their factories. The suppliers are so good at what they do that they can make the parts cheaper than we ever could. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m all for an All Australian Made Car However I doubt that very few people would be prepared to pay $60;000 for a basic Falcon or Commodore.. Not even the die-hard fans</p>
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		<title>By: oddbod</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/7324/holden-ve-commodore-sportwagon/comment-page-1/#comment-31554</link>
		<dc:creator>oddbod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 06:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VE wagon is good to see, just a pity it&#039;s so short in the back. 3rd row seat option doesn&#039;t seem to be high on the agenda for all of the large family&#039;s who can&#039;t bring themselves to buy a van/ tarago. Please make a third row seat HSVi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VE wagon is good to see, just a pity it&#8217;s so short in the back. 3rd row seat option doesn&#8217;t seem to be high on the agenda for all of the large family&#8217;s who can&#8217;t bring themselves to buy a van/ tarago. Please make a third row seat HSVi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/7324/holden-ve-commodore-sportwagon/comment-page-1/#comment-31410</link>
		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 10:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thommo, subaru make cars in the US in a shared plant with Toyota. I think you are refering to Suzuki. I think. Commodores are not made in Aust, they are assembled here. more then half of the parts are sourced from overseas, thats how much aust means to Holden. In fact the best holden ever made was the Nova as it was made by someone else!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thommo, subaru make cars in the US in a shared plant with Toyota. I think you are refering to Suzuki. I think. Commodores are not made in Aust, they are assembled here. more then half of the parts are sourced from overseas, thats how much aust means to Holden. In fact the best holden ever made was the Nova as it was made by someone else!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Going Ford, Is The Going Thing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Going Ford, Is The Going Thing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 05:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tommo617, Everyone thinks the Holdenwoo is the only Austrailan car and think the Ford Falcon&#039;s arn&#039;t when they more Aussie than any Holdenwoo.

FOR THE SAKE OF ARSEHOLES THAT SAY &quot;HOLDEN IS AUSTRALIAN FORD AIN&#039;T&quot;, It&#039;s no more Australian than a Ford Falcon or Ford Territory. Infact, they are even more Aussie than any Holden woo, ok!!! Also, because Holdenwoo fans have no answer to this, they have nothing better to say than &quot;I don&#039;t care&quot; or &quot;I am an arsehole and I don&#039;t give a ****&quot;. Ha,Ha. Dumb arses, LOL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tommo617, Everyone thinks the Holdenwoo is the only Austrailan car and think the Ford Falcon&#8217;s arn&#8217;t when they more Aussie than any Holdenwoo.</p>
<p>FOR THE SAKE OF ARSEHOLES THAT SAY &#8220;HOLDEN IS AUSTRALIAN FORD AIN&#8217;T&#8221;, It&#8217;s no more Australian than a Ford Falcon or Ford Territory. Infact, they are even more Aussie than any Holden woo, ok!!! Also, because Holdenwoo fans have no answer to this, they have nothing better to say than &#8220;I don&#8217;t care&#8221; or &#8220;I am an arsehole and I don&#8217;t give a ****&#8221;. Ha,Ha. Dumb arses, LOL!</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/7324/holden-ve-commodore-sportwagon/comment-page-1/#comment-31328</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 05:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ghandi hummer is hummer...not holden...whatever gave you that idea...holden had no input into it...just like saab didn&#039;t want their cars to be rebadged as holdens...because they don&#039;t to dumb down their cars...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ghandi hummer is hummer&#8230;not holden&#8230;whatever gave you that idea&#8230;holden had no input into it&#8230;just like saab didn&#8217;t want their cars to be rebadged as holdens&#8230;because they don&#8217;t to dumb down their cars&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: tommo617</title>
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		<dc:creator>tommo617</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 04:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmn, isn&#039;t this supposed to be about the new Commodore Wagon?

Lets face it, at least the local manufacturers (even if they are owned by overseas companies, so aren&#039;t really truly Australian anyway, but I digress) are still trying to come up with new products that they might be able to flog overseas (as a Pontiac G8 variant apparently) so that we can maintain a manufacturing base in Australia. 

Otherwise, if we lose that, we will end up importing all our cars...and both Holden and Ford will most likely source these from the cheapest source, which means South East Asia. Lets not forget that we have a free trade agreement with Thailand (Captivas, various Hondas...)

I seem to recall that by exporting cars, manufacturers earn credits with which they can bring in imported cars at lower prices.

As for where your car is built, there are very few manufacturers that solely source their cars from where you would think. These include Ferrari, Maserati (Italy obviously) and, believe it or not, Subaru (Japan is the sole source). Even Porsche uses a factory in Finland. BMW and Merc have factories in the US. Toyotas, GM and Ford are built pretty much everywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmn, isn&#8217;t this supposed to be about the new Commodore Wagon?</p>
<p>Lets face it, at least the local manufacturers (even if they are owned by overseas companies, so aren&#8217;t really truly Australian anyway, but I digress) are still trying to come up with new products that they might be able to flog overseas (as a Pontiac G8 variant apparently) so that we can maintain a manufacturing base in Australia. </p>
<p>Otherwise, if we lose that, we will end up importing all our cars&#8230;and both Holden and Ford will most likely source these from the cheapest source, which means South East Asia. Lets not forget that we have a free trade agreement with Thailand (Captivas, various Hondas&#8230;)</p>
<p>I seem to recall that by exporting cars, manufacturers earn credits with which they can bring in imported cars at lower prices.</p>
<p>As for where your car is built, there are very few manufacturers that solely source their cars from where you would think. These include Ferrari, Maserati (Italy obviously) and, believe it or not, Subaru (Japan is the sole source). Even Porsche uses a factory in Finland. BMW and Merc have factories in the US. Toyotas, GM and Ford are built pretty much everywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 03:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and ghandi captiva is korean...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and ghandi captiva is korean&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 03:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this post is getting funnier by the minute...

what&#039;s holden&#039;s current slogan? it used to be...&quot;holden means a great deal to australia...&quot;

oh hang on...it&#039;s &quot;go&quot;...go where? go to korea for cheap imports? or go downhill and build one quality car, import one more and reap profits from cheaper imports and fool the aussie driving public that they care about safety, quality and reliability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this post is getting funnier by the minute&#8230;</p>
<p>what&#8217;s holden&#8217;s current slogan? it used to be&#8230;&#8221;holden means a great deal to australia&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>oh hang on&#8230;it&#8217;s &#8220;go&#8221;&#8230;go where? go to korea for cheap imports? or go downhill and build one quality car, import one more and reap profits from cheaper imports and fool the aussie driving public that they care about safety, quality and reliability.</p>
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		<title>By: Blue Blood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blue Blood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 23:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW, a VE station wagon with mags.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW, a VE station wagon with mags.</p>
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		<title>By: wazza</title>
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		<dc:creator>wazza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 14:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^^ Ford fan, by any chance?</description>
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		<title>By: Reaper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reaper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 14:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for the laugh Mark. i laughed my butt off when i read your posts. totally agree about Daewoo rubbish.

quote from mark = &quot;Yeah it must be hard for half a dozen people in a shed with a glue gun to keep up with the demand of the craptiva. A Thai hooker gets more sales in a month then the craptiva!!!!!!!!!!!&quot;

Haha, that is good stuff mate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for the laugh Mark. i laughed my butt off when i read your posts. totally agree about Daewoo rubbish.</p>
<p>quote from mark = &#8220;Yeah it must be hard for half a dozen people in a shed with a glue gun to keep up with the demand of the craptiva. A Thai hooker gets more sales in a month then the craptiva!!!!!!!!!!!&#8221;</p>
<p>Haha, that is good stuff mate.</p>
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