Queensland Driver Licence new rules Curfews and 12 month learners
Update 9/01/2007 : A more detailed description of the new laws is available here
Queensland is set to introduce new rules for new drivers, including night curfews, passenger restrictions and the banning of high-powered cars in 2007. Part of the new rules includes a huge 100 hours of supervised learner driving will be enforced before taking the drivers test while Queensland Transport said that talking on hands-free mobiles while at the wheel will be illegal for many young Queenslanders from July 1, when the tough new reforms are introduced! Even with a hands-free! How completely stupid.
Queensland is also set to finally introduce P-plates to go along NSW and VIC, also learner licence period is set to double to 12 months in what is set to become the nation’s most rigid licensing system. The legislation will apply to provisional and learner drivers under 25. New drivers over that age will also be subjected to some of the new requirements.
The main changes to the system coming into effect in July 2007 are:
- lowering the minimum learner age to 16 and extending the licence period to 12 months
- gaining 100 hours of certified supervised on-road driving experience for learners under 25s
- restricting all mobile phone use, including hands-free, blue-tooth accessories, and loud-speaker functions, for learner and P1 provisional licence holders under 25
- restricting mobile loud-speaker functions for supervisors and passengers of learner and P1 provisional licence holders under 25 while under instruction
- motorbike learners will be required to hold a car provisional licence for 12 months prior to gaining a motorbike learner licence
- introduction of a two-phased P1 and P2 provisional licence system
- compulsory L plates (a black L on a yellow background) and P plates (a red plate for P1 and green plate for P2)
- peer passenger restrictions (only carrying one passenger aged under 21) from 11pm to 5am for P1 under 25
- high-powered vehicle restrictions for provisional drivers under 25
- after 12 months on P1, licence holders must pass a hazard perception test to progress to P2
- late night driving and other restrictions for disqualified and suspended young drivers
Queensland transport says that too many young people are dying on Queensland roads, with 17-24 year olds one of the most at-risk groups. In 2005 just 13 per cent of our drivers were young people, and yet 32 per cent of our road toll 106 fatalities came as a result of young driver crashes. This statistic is being used by QLD Transport to push down these new and extreme laws.
Queensland Transport and Main Roads Minister Paul Lucas said opposition to the “tough new line” was expected.
“We realise some of these changes won’t please everyone, particularly young people, but their lives are at stake and we have had to make hard decisions,” Mr Lucas said.
State driver groups, including the RACQ and MTAQ, had been instrumental in shaping the reforms, he said. Queensland Opposition Leader Lawrence Springborg said some of the new licensing measures were over the top.
“In a decentralised state such as Queensland, several of the rules will be extremely difficult to enforce and will be open to abuse,” Mr Springborg said.
“What’s more, the reforms discriminate against new drivers under 25 by being fairly lenient on new drivers over that age. Confidence on the roads comes down to driving experience, not age.“
RACQ spokesman Gary Fites said restricting the use of high-powered vehicles would be hard to monitor.
“It was the only one of the new measures that we (the RACQ) weren’t so sure about,” Mr Frites said.
I am located in Queensland and although these rules don’t apply to me I have to say, honestly, the more rules and regulations that are put in place to limit Young Drivers from driving, the worse things will get. I would like to see the police enforcing the high-powered cars rule. For a start, who will classify what cars as high powered? What will constitute a high powered car? Will it be a blanket No V8s, no Turbocharger, no Supercharger approach? Would that mean kids can’t drive their parents Nissan Patrol? Or take the landcruiser for a spin? What about dad’s V8 commodore? How will that work?
I would like RACQ to tell me if one single person under 25 was even consulted for these changes, 12 month learners period is simply just stupid. The longer the period the more chance of learner drivers on the road without a license. 12 months is just enormous! If you are getting your learners you are keen to get your drivers license and whilst I agree that not everyone with a drivers license knows how to drive, I can’t imagine why RACQ and QLD transport are only targeting young drivers!
There are plenty of older drivers who are more of a menace than young drivers, why not introduce:
- compulsory defensive driving courses
- compulsory safety courses
- change the driving test so its more set for the real world as oppose to following a few basic rules
Why is that the driving courses still require drivers to do a parallel park when they never teach you what todo if your aquaplaning the car of it you’ve lost control in the wet, or how to deal with a car with ABS etc etc? Why does the QLD government always take the easy way out of trying to fix the road toll problem. Its not a two step process of putting more speed cameras and tougher laws. There needs to be more education for younger drivers and less restrictions. Many young Drivers will always want to speed, so why not give the chance to do just that in a safe environment?
Furthermore, 100 hours of supervised learning before taking the test? Are they serious? Who can afford that! What if the young driver going for his or her test doesn’t have their parents car to practise on? Are they going to pay $40/hr for 100 hours to get that log book filled up? Thats $4,000!
What about the complete lack of attention to older drivers who are also a menace on the road? Why isn’t there new regulation to require a special 4WD license for people to drive big 4WDs in the city? There needs to be understanding by the Government and RACQ (whom I have now lost all utter respect for) to realize that young drivers are not the source of the problem. Sure they might have a higher accident rate, but thats mainly due to lack of experience and 100 hours of paid lessons is simply over the top, instead of the 100 hours they need to make the driving test much harder, and include real world situations in a proper testing environment on a track so they can take the car out of control. If they want safety, this isn’t the solution.

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August 14th, 2006 at 2:47 pm
son of a bitch! that is so stupid! young people are either going to be mega pissed off and break all the rules or just say ’screw that’ and not even drive at all. I’m 2 months away from getting my P’s so either way, those new rules apply to me :(
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August 18th, 2006 at 1:02 am
Nicely said! Learner drivers, regardless of their age, should be given a much more challenging testing process to make them more aware of the dangers on the road. Defensive driving courses should be compulsory, drivers who haven’t used their manual licenses in over 5 years should lose their manual priviledges, drivers over 65yo should be forced to do several tests to prove their reaction, sight and hand-eye co-ordination, etc, etc…
This is just another way for the government to rake more money out of young Australians who are already finding it difficult to make a dollar as it is. What comes next I wonder? I thought this was a democratic society? How can they make a decision based on the word of the people when they don’t go to the source?
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August 19th, 2006 at 12:12 pm
Perhaps, just perhaps, Australia should stop treating its citizens like idiots, and start treating them like people ? The number of hoops that people have to jump through, and the level of government run ‘tests’ that people have to do is already too high - do we really want to add more? Isn’t it funny that despite a complete lack of legislation in Europe on driving rules in comparision to Australia, and a generally higher speed limit on road, that they seem to have less accidents? It is well easy to get a drivers licence in Europe compared to Aus so it isn’t that. Perhaps by introducing STRICTER rules we won’t make it any easier?
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August 20th, 2006 at 8:19 pm
Iam 16 and hold a RE motorcycle lerners licence. The new rules say that i have to hold a P1 car licence to even get my bike learners. Dose that mean that i have to wait and hold a car P1 licence for one year even tho i already hold my RE motorcycle lerners licence, or dose the new laws not affect me as i already hold my bike learners?
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August 20th, 2006 at 10:41 pm
Hey Steven
the new laws dont come into force till mid next year, if I were you, I’d get my bike license before then!
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August 21st, 2006 at 8:58 am
i think these new rules are stupid, i’ve had my licence for a year now and i own my v8 clubsport and there is no way im going to trade that in for a beep beep barina. the government reckon were adults at 18, well treat us like adults, and if you want us to do all these ‘compulsory’ defensive and safety courses, then i hope the governments paying for them other wise you can stick em! cause im sure us young adults have better things to do and spend our money on…..
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August 22nd, 2006 at 5:42 pm
If you have your P’s before the new law comes into affect are you affected by the law when it does
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August 23rd, 2006 at 10:44 am
im 15 at the moment and was born on january the eleventh and will be getting my learners next year in July (the same month these laws come in) so if I get my learners then after these laws have come ni i will have to have my licence for 12 months from when i’m sixteen and a half; meaning i won’t get my P’s until im 17 and a half. fair?
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August 23rd, 2006 at 6:05 pm
i reckon that is stupid i am 16 and i have owned a 1951 ford custom for just over a year its a v8 and i have spend all my money on it, does that mean i can’t drive it with these new rules. THAT STINKS!!!
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August 23rd, 2006 at 6:22 pm
Well, well, well. Aren’t these laws laughable.
Quote 1: “Gaining 100 hours of certified supervised on-road driving experience for learners under 25s”
Whats not stopping people filling out the book anyway, even though they have not driven? Someone could just do 10 hours driving and put down 100. It prooves nothing.
Quote 2: “Restricting all mobile phone use, including hands-free, blue-tooth accessories, and loud-speaker functions, for learner and P1 provisional licence holders under 25 and restricting mobile loud-speaker functions for supervisors and passengers of learner and P1 provisional licence holders under 25 while under instruction.”
My oh my how will this be policed. All handsfree kits have automatic answer and auto hang up. I use mine all the time. Its fantastic. So how will the police know im using one? I could just be singing along to a song on the radio. And same thing with the passengers.
Quote 3: “High-powered vehicle restrictions for provisional drivers under 25″
This will mean disaster for young apprentices. Diesel HiLux’s and so forth are commonly used for work vehicles and can be turbo’d. This is for the extra pulling power to pull heavy machinery and parts, not for speed.
Quote 4: “Introduction of a two-phased P1 and P2 provisional licence system”
Useless if your not going to enforce speed restrictions.
Quote 5: “Late night driving and other restrictions for disqualified and suspended young drivers”
What the bloody hell is a suspended driver doing on the road in the first place?
Quote 6: “Peer passenger restrictions (only carrying one passenger aged under 21) from 11pm to 5am for P1 under 25″
Whats not to say that someone over the age of 21 isn’t mature enough? I know plenty of hoons and reckless drivers over the age of 21. If your going to make this a rule, make it on all ages. This rule will also annoy tradesmen.
Sorry Queensland Police and Queensland Transport, this is a case of go home and try again.
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August 25th, 2006 at 6:39 pm
i have just recently turned 16 and go for my learners in jan. in july i will be 17 so whats ment to happen with it all for me then??
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August 26th, 2006 at 8:46 am
it means that ur learners will still be 6 months but you will face all the new P1,P2 rules
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August 26th, 2006 at 2:38 pm
If i turn 16 this december and get my learners in june 2007 will the one year learners apply?
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August 26th, 2006 at 2:41 pm
no, as long as you get it before July, you will only have your learners for 6 months. Its rather funny, but its the only way they could implement it i guess.
Get it before July!
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August 28th, 2006 at 10:32 am
Well i would say its crap, because its ridiculous to restrict younger drivers, especially since most accidents happen because of dumb fat suburbian middle age’d wankers who drive their 4wd’s whilst trying to call people to find out if their partners are cheat’n on them, FOR GOD SAKES YES THEY ARE BECAUSE YOUR FAT,BALD AND STUPID. so inclusiion fuk your laws if wanna drive a v8 a bloody will because i already got my P’s. DR.Jordoneus
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August 29th, 2006 at 2:15 pm
iv had my learners 4 over 6 months and am ready to get my p’s will these new rules affect me at all?
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August 29th, 2006 at 3:13 pm
Hmm, good question,
if you get your license now, you will avoid having to wear P1 plates, and given that your not in the P1 system, I would doubt you will need to have P2 plates.
My advice to everyone who hasn’t got their learners or has their learners and is waiting to get their license. Do it NOW!
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August 29th, 2006 at 8:15 pm
hahaha sucked in to every1 affected by dis law really sux but proud not to b a youngin’…
i just had to say dat, nd i rekon gud on da rules will be gud at stoppin sum up cumin hoons step in da ryt direction… but da fact is da new generation pays for da mistakes of current hoons real gud justice these dayz ay.
still dont affect me…but if dey did i think dey need to reconsider da performance car ones more hoons in shiit boxes dese dayz stupid holden hoons den hot modded cars that hav drivers dat take alot of care not to scratch em nd stuff.
No matter wat happens u will alwayz have da so called hardcore fully sik drifers dat will take big bro’s silvia or skyline nd crash into da nearest pole, young ppl 2day like breakin rules nd da satisfaction of gettin away wid it. so like most suggestions go driver awareness programs to educate u silly ppl wantin to b da nxt TAKUMI or DRIFT KING.
datz just my view, i know u guyz rekon it sux but memba it will save lives nd for one more life saved it makes da whole thing worth it.
memba kids dont drinkn nd drive or do drugs
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August 30th, 2006 at 2:15 pm
this new enforcement is soooo stupid omg not all young people are bad drivers and get into accidents, wat the hell is ‘on ur p one liscence from 11pm to 5am u can have only 1 passenger’ ?? so if im driving my friends out for a good night on the town, i have to leave them there drunk and let who knows what happen to them ? i wont i dont give a fuk ill still drive them, ur just giving me more rules to break! wats even more rediculous is how they are going to prevent us from buying certain cars….. u think u can control that ? coz it wont it just makes things more fun and thrilling driving around in an ”illegal” car dipshits!
100 hrs with an instructor ? ur fuken nuts how bout u pay for it then aye ? coz i already have to pay 42 dollars a lesson and i have no parent to teach me how to drive, $4000 where am i gonna pull that out from? if i can only afford one lesson a wk.
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August 30th, 2006 at 5:20 pm
Im 15 at the moment and i was born in Janurary… does this mean i have have to have my learners for 1 year and i have to wait until im 17 and half to get my p’s cos if i have to this new law is screwed and y should i miss out because of it…. Law fair my arse…
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August 30th, 2006 at 5:43 pm
If you can’t get your learners before July 2007, you will have to have your learners for 12 months. So in your case, it sounds like you miss it by a matter of days!
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August 30th, 2006 at 6:01 pm
What a load of crap, i’m 18 and drive a street registered naturally aspirated V6 VR commodore putting out 240HP to the wheels pulling low 14’s along the 1/4 which is on par with most skylines and forced induction cars, how they guna stop people from driving modified cars like this, a new breed of performance car will be born, if your that keen you dont need a turbo or blower to make power it just takes more money but it can be done. Unless they put every registered car on a dyno the laws are powerless and will push people to suck more power out of the naturally aspirated sixes. Just let people have there fun while there young and still can.
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August 30th, 2006 at 10:04 pm
if i get my P’s befor these laws come out do i miss them or what happen’s cause they say nothing about who gets to miss them…….
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August 30th, 2006 at 10:15 pm
i already have my L’s and get my P’s in FEB 2007 so i will miss all these stupid laws right
???
and why should us young drivers be banded for so many things when its all the older and elderly people who r really causing a thret and we get hit for it… i thought the big AUS was ment to be a fair place… well i was wrong….. It’s not really fair for us… i am new to this sight and have been reading all the comments and they r all good points why should we have to do all these courses hell they can shove it unless they r paying for it i got better things to spend my money on beside more tests.. if i pass my driver test its cause i know what to do and have done it by the law so to hell with all these stupid laws…..
so i miss them right??? lol :-D
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August 30th, 2006 at 10:18 pm
No mate,
u will get stuck on the P1-2 system.
Get your license ASAP so at least u wont have to put up with the P1 rules, but u will have to do another test to get your P2s come next year
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August 31st, 2006 at 9:56 pm
yeah g’day ppl
i turned 16 last month which means i get my learners in feb. so all that crap bout P1’s and P2’s applies to me hey?
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September 1st, 2006 at 2:58 pm
so how does this P1-2 work? whats it all about?
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September 1st, 2006 at 10:41 pm
hey question??
ive owned my 180sx turbo now for a year next year will be 2( by july 07) yes im on my L and will be on my P plates in the next month. So wat happen im not allowed to drive my car even though ive spent the last year sanding it respray and money???? I OWN IT!!! they gonna buy me a new 1???? im certainly not sellin it…:(
only the few wreck it for us car enthusiests
whoops they have F@#ked it !!!
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September 3rd, 2006 at 10:33 am
all these new laws r so stupid i know that many pl who have sunk all there time and hard erned money on there “high performance” car yes these cars go fast and just like any car if u crash it a gonna hurt many ppl can get power or of n/a car it ain’t hard if ya wanna do internal mods hows that going to be policed what, they goin to pull the engine down to find out don’t think so
by doin these new laws people r just going tofind new ways to mod te n/a 6’s the same happened when they made p platers on a moter bike only ride a 250 they r still capable of in excess of 250 km/h
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September 4th, 2006 at 11:00 pm
The P1 P2 system, is similar to the one used in NSW, except that there is no speed restrictions (as far as QLD transport have so far mentioned) so, pretty much the only difference is, if you are on your Ps you cant drive a performance car, and you gotta have P plates on your car so you can look like a dick
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September 6th, 2006 at 1:06 pm
so does that mean when i get my l’s before the new rules i’ll have to go back to the start and do 100 hrs
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September 6th, 2006 at 1:10 pm
Ouch. I can’t wait.
Maybe you should post up a clarification: I’m already on my p-ness plates, am I likely to get whacked by the second half of this law?
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September 6th, 2006 at 4:22 pm
FUCK YOU and fuck your rules!! i am getting a high powered vehicle wether u like it or not. im getting my p’s next year and i will fuckign drive it.. try and stop me.. i am actually one of them people who dont do stupid thigns in their cars 24/7 why punish the people who do good things.. fuck the government.
ive lost all respect for the ” PIGS! and them dumb as pen pushers in parliment.
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September 6th, 2006 at 4:39 pm
i moved from sydney to brisbane thre for i am 1 year or so younger than all of my mates.. so al of my mates cant drive V8’s ot turbocharged cars.. that seem fair? they also dont have cerfews or anything this is just not fair.. how are the pigz guna police these new rules anyway? theres guna be so many angry teens out there effected by these new ” idiotic” rules and they will most probably dissobay them.why does QLD allways have to follow the other states.. this is shit . a real fucking hit and miss Mr Lucas ” one to blame here” can honestly get fucked.. for ruining our fun. when u get your p’s its like having your wings.. only these road rules is like having your wings clipped and only REALLY flying when your 21. so.. the governemtn CAN FUCK! OFF!! fucking bunch of wankers
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September 6th, 2006 at 4:41 pm
i moved from sydney to brisbane thre for i am 1 year or so younger than all of my mates.. so al of my mates can* drive V8’s ot turbocharged cars.. that seem fair? they also dont have cerfews or anything this is just not fair.. how are the pigz guna police these new rules anyway? theres guna be so many angry teens out there effected by these new ‘’ idiotic’’ rules and they will most probably dissobay them.why does QLD allways have to follow the other states.. this is shit . a real fucking hit and miss Mr Lucas ‘’ one to blame here’’ can honestly get fucked.. for ruining our fun. when u get your p’s its like having your wings.. only these road rules is like having your wings clipped and only REALLY flying when your 21. so.. the governemtn CAN FUCK! OFF!! fucking bunch of wankers
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September 6th, 2006 at 6:14 pm
Are they trying to take all of our fun away. Give us a break! once your 18 your suposed to be free arnt you… this is so stupid
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September 7th, 2006 at 9:38 am
i moved from sydney to brisbane thre for i am 1 year or so younger than all of my mates.. so al of my mates can* drive V8’s ot turbocharged cars.. that seem fair? they also dont have cerfews or anything this is just not fair.. how are the pigz guna police these new rules anyway? theres guna be so many angry teens out there effected by these new ‘’ idiotic’’ rules and they will most probably dissobay them.why does QLD allways have to follow the other states.. this is shit . a real fucking hit and miss Mr Lucas ‘’ one to blame here’’ can honestly get fucked.. for ruining our fun. when u get your p’s its like having your wings.. only these road rules is like having your wings clipped and only REALLY flying when your 2
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September 7th, 2006 at 9:43 am
who do you think you are taking our driving away from us your a wanker poodle head
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September 7th, 2006 at 11:13 am
Does this mean we keep doing our p1’s & p2’s and get our open licence’s on the 3rd year of our p’s.?
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September 7th, 2006 at 11:21 am
i have grown up with v8 cars and they’re all i know, shouldnt the government be encouraging driving environments that people are comfortable with. I’ve heard that SA dosnt have speed limits and don’t they have the lowest road death toll…dosnt this tell u something…and the whole 100 hours of supervised driving, with the rising petrol prices people arent going to be able to afford the whole 100 hours thing..when the death toll does go down it will only be a result of half the population not on the roads…not that people are being safer on them..i plan to go to university..how the hell am i going to pay for uni and fuel on top!
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September 7th, 2006 at 11:22 am
If you think there should be no car’s being allowed v8 enignes. If that’s the law they want they should provide the car to everyperson in queendland on the p’s or l’s that does not have a v8 engine. & only goes to a certain speed.Instead of having people allowed to have certain car’s it rediculous. Having to do 100 hours to do as well.. the gouvernment should pay for the fuel as well. Prices are becoming rediculous.!!
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September 7th, 2006 at 11:33 am
hi just me again..i was just reading the part about hands free thiung and that passengers arent allowed to have their phones on speaker phone, does this mean that if your in the car with your passenger you’re not allowed to talk to them, isnt it the same as hands free??
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September 7th, 2006 at 2:39 pm
Hmm, well, thats the whole point I guess, the laws are stupid and impossible to govern. I am not sure how they are going to tell if someone is simply talking to the person next to them or talking on speaker phone using their mobile.
I can only image, as I mentioned in the article, that RACQ has not even talked to anyone below the age of 30 to get some opinion because if they had, they would have realized that actually governing these new rules is impossible! How can you tell when you drive past that the driver is talking on speaker phone or simply singing along to the radio? Or as you mentioned, talking to the person next to them.
Go QLD Transport.
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September 7th, 2006 at 6:36 pm
what does P2 mean like i miss P1 so what does it all mean????
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September 7th, 2006 at 8:10 pm
Hey guys, sorry i soughta dont get this at all one bit, I turn 16 on September 29th i was born in 1990 does all these rules apply to me? i am soo confused about i am a carholic and i just adore all the turbos superchargers and V8’s and is the government going to take it away from me? please some one help me out,
cheers Sim
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September 7th, 2006 at 8:45 pm
HAS NEONE ASKING QUESTION ACTUALLY READ DA LEGISLATION???
OK noobs its obvious half da lil kiddyz here dont undastand wats happenin…
If u can manage to get ur Ps b4 July nxt year u r safe from the new legislation all together and it doesnt effect you, datz ryt no P1 or P2 or P-plates on ur car. this is bcuz when u get ur Ps under the current law u have them for 3yrs or wateva nd get ur opens (cant wait)and bcuz the new law is not mandatory yet the old rules only apply. da rest of u youngin’z will be SKREWED by the new laws(enjoy mums 20kw atw, excel). About enforcement of the laws, as many hav said it will b difficult to enforce handsfree etc… well dese dayz copz can get u busted for nethin they hav da power nd dey can do wat dey want wid it MY ADVICE IS DONT BE A COCK and ull b fine…
Y u all sayin skrew da government nd new road rules??? der made for a reason, and that is to save lives. so if da whole of QLD is to suffer to save one extra life its still worth it, ive done heaps of research on dis topic nd at first seemed like dey wer all bein a bunch of A-grade tossers but i was wrong dey did it to save ppl (and make cash on da side cheap bastards)…
Ohh one other thing sum guy said b4 bannin cars wid compressors aint gona solve a thing bcuz a FULLY SIK V6 can be just as quik wen tuned up ryt…yeh well unda new legislations modifications are bein banned as well so enjoy STOCKO v6 which im pretty sure will struggle to beat turbo cars. my solution get an any NA import all can b quik, Integra VTEC, Civic VTEC, FTO, Satria GTi, 206 GTi, pulsar SSS, Mazda 3 SP23 (dis car is crazy a stocko one beat a s14 nd 180sx both slightly modded turboed SR20s too) these 4cyl cars are eco for u cheap ass’ nd hammer good plus safe them bein front wheel drive (dont try hand brake slide outs yes its dangerous ive seen a Yaris try it dumbass spun out nd hit a tree)
Newayz datz just my input to dis thingo
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September 8th, 2006 at 11:29 pm
This is fuckiing shit!!! The government has no fucking idea how many ppl this affects and how rediculous it is… why are they even bothering, its not gona change how many ppls are dying on the roads, its just a huge pain in the ass for everyone, so why are they fucking us roound with all these laws!!!
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September 8th, 2006 at 11:50 pm
omfg, wtf is wrong with this government… this is only gonna make younger drivers want to break the rules just to be able brag to their friends… But seriously these new laws suck balls… STUPID FUCKING government cant even think straight, all they are doing are getting us young people ANGRY… what dont you STUPID FUCKERS understand i want a V8!!!!
all i can say is FUCK YOU and FUCK YOUR RULES!! WANKERS
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September 9th, 2006 at 11:14 pm
this is so stupid. i read some of the comments and im 15 now and born in january and because of like 15 or so days i hav to be on my learners an extra 6 months. how is this fair!?!?!?! is there a way i can get around it?
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September 9th, 2006 at 11:17 pm
p.s. SeaNo who wrote that long thing… ur a wank… thats it…
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September 9th, 2006 at 11:18 pm
lol ok three in a row i know….but no one consulted us before they brought these rules in and that just fucks us all off
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September 10th, 2006 at 10:31 am
IM SILLY samantha ok think about wat u said u aint happy cuz u hav ur licence for extra 6 months well guess wat u can drive 6 months earlier datz is sumthin i wish i cud of had…wait hold up i just saw ur D.O.B haha all i can say is skrewed well i must say ur in the brithday bracket dat suffers da most
haha Samantha is so angry well just think about the extra time u get to spend wid mummy nd daddy. ive seen the way most young girls and even sumtimes guyz drive dese dayz and sum added practise myt b useful.
“With the fatality rate of young people (17-25yo) 35% of all road toll (considering that the total population of young people is only 15% out of the total) from the previous 26% of road toll (only 12% of total population) its clear to say that there has been a good decrease in overall road fatalities, but there has been quite a nominal change to that of young drivers.”(from the past two decades)
those figures do need to get addressed…
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September 10th, 2006 at 10:36 am
NEW LAWS WOOT WOOT!!! HAIL THE NEW LAWS IN ALL THEIR IMMENSITY p.s. samantha if u want sum1 to drive u round take a cab u cheap bastard oh nd wen u turn 16 (the age of legality) call me ;)
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September 10th, 2006 at 10:22 pm
ur all young dickheads like me but open ur eyes and dont just critisise the government u blind close minded fools…the rules are set for a reason because of the idiots who cant follow the speed limit….
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September 12th, 2006 at 12:23 pm
Hey beka..
What ya doin?? this is boring… I hope these laws dont happen lol they will…:@ i hate the government had to be this year didnt it.. oh well tlk to ya soon lub you hehe x
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September 12th, 2006 at 1:48 pm
hello you smell funny and you can haha poo smelly your rules suck
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September 13th, 2006 at 10:22 am
sorry but tel me we put our car in our parents name wat can da pigs do about dat hay.and who ever is effected by dis law we did sweet fuk all to make dis law happen its all those older diks dat fuk it all up 4 us so GO AND JAM UR LAW UP JOHNY HOWARDS RINKLY ASS!
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September 14th, 2006 at 7:37 pm
Holy Fuken SHIT … im a mechanic … im around cars 24/7 … and im only on my P’s …this is fuked im not allowed to take test drives anymore… wats even more bullshit is that i have my Dream Car (Toyota Soarer Twin Turbo) and i cant even fuken drive it… doesnt the goverment understand the cars that get riden off are slow shitboxes that the owners dont care about and redline them at 250km/h … it doesnt mater wat car u have they can all go fast it just takess a little time and … THERE ALL FUKHEADS ARGGGGGG
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September 14th, 2006 at 7:40 pm
Oh and Brett and any one else who agress with these laws are fuken nerds that can suck on my cock cos no one is gonna turn over for the cops…
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September 15th, 2006 at 11:47 am
we shouldn’t be blaming the gov for this… we should be blaming all those fuk head drivers out there trying to show off and getting people killed…. the gov is just looking out for us…. but that doesn’t mean i agree with these laws.. even thow i miss them all and the P rules i miss also…. there r a few things they could have keept out like the V8 and super charged and all that… a 4cyl can do as much damage as a V8
but this drivers safty test is stupid… if they pay for it then i will go otherwise i have better things to do….
i feel sorry for all u guy’s that have to go with these laws coming out….
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September 15th, 2006 at 3:17 pm
i turn 16 in april of next year.
so does this mean i can get my L’s
in july?
or do i have to wait until im 16 and a half?
because the new law comes in after my birthday?
& also
“peer passenger restrictions (only carrying one passenger aged under 21) from 11pm to 5am for P1 under 25″
does this mean between 5am and 11pm you can have the normal amount of passengers?
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September 17th, 2006 at 5:36 pm
i dont rekn the new laws r that bad! u get 2 start driving wen ur 16 insted ov 16 and a half!!!! u stil get ur license wen ur 17 so wots tha dif?! and how r tha cops guna no bout tha fone thing? tha only thing that sux is if ur bdai is in january…like mine! u get em wen ur 17 and a half now that reeeeeeeeeli sux!!!!!!! pissed of!! y cant they make the rules start at the beginning of the year?! thats kinda logical isnt it?! but meh ill get ova it. oh nd it sux that u cant hav good cars!! :(
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September 18th, 2006 at 10:17 pm
HAHA IM BAK TO FIX DA BAD LANGUAGE ND MIS-INTURPRETATIONS U 15yr old, grade 10 boyz nd gurlz are experiencing!!
TOP GEAR is awsume love dat show i duno y i said dat but yeh u gota watch it…
lets answer sum questions cuz im on da know it all (Legal Assignment) on dis topic…
so Mr mechanic boy u can drive wateva u want cuz u aint affected by dis legislation
However id b worried if my mechanic nd wanted ur “DREAM CAR” that is a soarer…yes da motor is quite gud but datz bout it, der too FAT dey aint dat pretty nd fuel, well it aint got ne left in da tank afta u start da thing up it… dont get mad im comparin to da GTR park in ma drive way.
yes Sharna u can take ppl as normal between those times…
thumbs up to Brett at least one of us undastands y laws are made.if u guyz do legal studys durin ur skool life den ull undastand dat for a bill to b approved alot of assessing happens nd crap…
newayz no one else to correct, so dont be a fool nd stay in skool so u dont end up being a mechanic who drives a Soarer
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September 18th, 2006 at 10:22 pm
Man thanks for the response SeaNo, but I had to run it through a translator to make it english. I think it must take you more time to write like that, than if you wrote normally?
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September 19th, 2006 at 5:09 pm
fuck me blind! if your going to post comments on here type it in english! lol.. these laws eat dick i dont care about em . ive already got my car me n dad have been working on it since i was 10 its a twin turbo R33 it runs low 13s it kicks ass. i love my cars and i feel deeply for the other poor souls affected by this.
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September 20th, 2006 at 4:21 am
lol - totally what I was thinking Alborz :)
Although, in SeaNo’s defence, the full legislation is probably as difficult to read…
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September 20th, 2006 at 4:41 pm
yeh well ive just turned 16 and ive already got my car (nissan skyline) and i got that car coz it came stock with a turbo, that was the main reason i got it. Now i have to pay my parents back all the money n sell the car coz its fuckin useless without the turbo to me!
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September 20th, 2006 at 11:14 pm
oh yeh sorry guyz its all cuz of msn talking all short hand nd crap… and mine is in english well i thought it was…good to see people like there Japanese cars stupid aussie holdens and fords and there primitive technology ok dis was a unless post :)
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September 21st, 2006 at 9:19 am
Arghhhh these new laws stink :(
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September 21st, 2006 at 9:22 am
Personally, I think these new laws are TERRIFIC! Thank god for this brilliant government we have here in Queensland, thank you Peter Beattie!
Now all you youngsters, don’t be naughty now :).
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September 22nd, 2006 at 12:23 am
Oooh. I wouldn’t go saying that “mrs tibbles”.. not at all.
My thoughts simply..
The rules are stupid.
A lot of young people drive stupid, not all though.
These rules make everyone in that age group suffer.
They’re too restrictive.
The government is full of idiots who put no thought into anything.
It’s all about the money - the world revolves around it.
It’s nearly a year away - maybe it’ll change by then?
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September 22nd, 2006 at 2:22 pm
brad mate i agree with you, my thoughts exactly i hope they change by july 1 next year. Because of all the fucking idiots who do the stupid things the new drivers have to suffer because of them. its so stupid, THESE LAWS ARE WAY TO FUCKING RESTRICTIVE. so many people are guna break them.
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September 23rd, 2006 at 12:27 am
i thin kits like school… a group talks we all get kept in….. well thats what its like a few fuking dick heads screw up and we all get punished…
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September 24th, 2006 at 10:18 am
im a lez mate i drov a v8 so whot
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September 24th, 2006 at 10:19 am
i fuck 24/7
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September 27th, 2006 at 4:04 am
fuck the rules
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September 27th, 2006 at 4:07 am
ha these rules are completely unfair, fuck the pigs. phuck the rruulleezz!
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September 27th, 2006 at 1:32 pm
i just bought a turbocharged V6 VN Holden Commodore i am only 16 in october and i don’t turn 17 till october next year so what happens will i have to sell the car or just take off the turbocharger and what age will i be able to put it back on
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September 29th, 2006 at 8:37 pm
pfft pathetic dont expect me to follow any of these lame ass rules
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September 29th, 2006 at 8:40 pm
fuck this you fuck head get fucked white dogs just cause im black you always pic on us black fellas
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September 29th, 2006 at 8:45 pm
You all suck fucking wankers expecialy the cock head who rekons 240hp from a nonturbo vr not possible fuck head
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September 30th, 2006 at 4:36 pm
im 15 at the moment, born 5th jan, i will be old enough to get my Ls 5 days after these new laws come in, is there any way i can get out of the 12 month learner period otherwise i wont get my Ps till im 17 and a half. The laws shouldve just stayed the same.
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September 30th, 2006 at 4:39 pm
plus is there any way i could my Ls 5 dasys earlier, how old is 16 and six months (exactly) anyways, thanx
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October 1st, 2006 at 3:58 pm
hey greeny ur a dikhaed.hey and cops look how many people r hatin these rulz al redy so i think wat every1 else thinks fuk u and fuk ur laws.and the goverment y dont u suk johny howards dik and balls a litle mor cause u aint stopin any ov us.And y the fuk do we hav to gothrow these laws i agree with mr frites fuk the laws
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October 2nd, 2006 at 9:04 pm
You guys are idiots, You can get your learners at 16 and get yours p’s at 17. Whats so fucking hard about reading facts and getting all worked up about this. The new laws are coming theres nothing u can do really. All i can say is i get my p’s in march so suck shit to the generation down from me, bad luck brothers XD
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October 4th, 2006 at 6:02 pm
I’ll have my P’s by then, hopefully the new reg’s wont apply to me, I dont want to look like a dork driving around with p-ness plates on my car >_
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October 5th, 2006 at 4:46 pm
i have 2 sons that are in the same boat as many of you other young men and women that are going to be affected by these rules, and as a father my concerns are most likely the same as most others about you our sons and daughters and that is for your safety, i strongly believe in the use of P plates - the reason for this is that as many of you have stated that you are not the ones breaking the rules but you are being penalised - well having P plates makes others aware that you are getting your confidence/and road sense that comes with years of experience - that road sense is being able to read (somewhat) another drivers mind as to what they may do in an unexpected situation, however when you are P platers you have not developed enough skills for others to be able to anticipate your moves - the P plates give those other people a chance to be aware that you may make a mistake and to allow you the room and time to make your decisions in what you are doing. The part about having only one other person in the car is a 2 sided sword - unfortunately it means you can’t have as many friends in your car at once as before, however during your learning process if you make a mistake there are less in the car to be hurt - it is a shame but it is a reality. Maybe rather than imposing these lengthy time frames on your qualifications (1 year for learners and then the time involved with P’s) maybe the driving should start with years 11 & 12 at school giving you the chance to learn there like they do overseas and then going through advanced drivers courses as well so you can get the skills to handle dangerous situations like rain, dirt or slick roads, etc. Like all of you my sons are not happy with the situation but these are the rules that have been put in place and i would hate to think that they are being imposed without the chance of todays youth having input into these rules. So take a moment and think - what rules could or should be in place to save you our loved ones from the dangers of the road. I am sure this forum wouyld be a great place to start to make suggestions if we speak in a civil manner.
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October 7th, 2006 at 4:21 pm
the p plates in theory are there to allow cars to know that uv had less experience, but in practise its the same as puting a sign saying “overtake me” on your bumper. Queensland has had p plates before just they removed the law because pplz saw a p plate driver and overtook the first place possible, even if they were doing the speed limit, whats to say that this wont happen again
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October 8th, 2006 at 12:43 pm
hey can sum1 help me??
i was born in july 1990 nd i get me L’s in Jan… Do i hav to follow all these shit P1 AND P2 rules??
and me and my dad hav been restoring my XB 351 GT for the last 4 years am i gonna b allowed to drive it or do these fucked up rules fuck me over…
Cheers, Roger
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October 8th, 2006 at 6:55 pm
I’m 40yo, I live in Victoria, yeah, yeah I know F..ck off.
Well as you say, I’ll do want I want.
I do wish these laws did exist in Victoria, as stupid as they sound…
Why…
I lost my lifetime Best FRIEND/Buddy/Mate back in 2003, to a young _licensed_ idiot with a V8 Commode who speed @ 190+km/h hitting my best friends car and killing him, not instantly but BURNED TO DEATH, with onlookers watching & listening to him scream for help, ’cause they couldn’t put the fire out or get close enough. YES the F**ckwit is in jail, however that’ll NEVER bring back my best mate….
I have also lost 3 other people due to idiots driving over the last 20 years.
Stiff you say, well, tell that to his now 5yo Boy and Wife of 5 years….Imagine it if was YOUR Parent/Partner/Friend or Mate. or don’t you give a shit?????
If these laws WERE in place, he WOULD be still here today, ’cause the young dick wouldn’t have been able to reach the 190+km/h, within 500 or so metres from the onramp before hitting my friends car. He obviously could not drive as well as HE THOUGHT.
Yes the rules are crap, but because idiots like the you lot above who say ‘f*&ck you, I’ll do what & when I want’.
Well back at ya, dickheads like YOU; ARE THE REASON Changes like this have to been made, you remember those “little” illegal street drags you practice in the most obvious of places, or donuts.
You try to beat ‘em, they make it harder, maybe they should raise the age back up to 21 to get a license!!!!
Now that cars can be consfiscated in Vic, Street Drags have all but stopped, I guess nobody wants to loose their ride…. but then some of their mates probably don’t realise, it is in a way to their avdvantage. Now they don’t have to worry which direction they have to run when some idiot, rooky driver MATE looses control into the crowd, that’s why street legal drags are held.
YES it costs you money, but for your money you get ambulance and Fire fighters on standby on the spot.
Oh finally to all those who are so f*&cking smart that they WON’T?? be caught, it’s only a matter of when.
Cops will only have to check ANY car that meets those criteria(specs for those of you that can’t speak English), & check you & your ride. BINGO you’re history.
And to just piss you off, How did I get my license, I was told to drive around the block… :-P
TheBear
P.S. Just remember, you might be bored, but if you follow the rules, more of you might actually make it to an older age
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October 9th, 2006 at 5:59 pm
very very good point there TheBear i am sorry to hear about your friend and the others….. i agree with you.. i don’t have my P’s yet but i am willing to wait i have my L’s already… i for shore will not be one of those hoons… its a waist of time fule and if u get cought money and point’s…. a guy at my school was doing 95km in a school zone (40km) and got done liences gone for 6months and a $700 fine… now really who wants that…. u all have to realise that a car is like a gun if used in a bad way someone can get hurt or worse killed… now im shore noone wants that on there hands do they…. so think befor u say u will do something and not get cought cause really time will tell… trust me…. and again thnx TheBear for your say….
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October 9th, 2006 at 7:29 pm
is ne1 gunna write bak 2 me lol ^^^
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October 11th, 2006 at 11:31 am
Oi these P plates are a fucking bullshit idea if someone sees a P plate they just think woopee a young driver who gives a shit and treats them the same as any1 else on the road but u drive past a coppa with ur P plates on they turn around and check up on you these rules are fucking bs and i for 1 am not going to follow ur lame ass rules
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October 11th, 2006 at 2:56 pm
i feel the same way about these rules dennis. but if u get caught u get a fine and other shit like restrictions at night all i can say is they have really bad timing at bringing these rules in. and they suck so much. but theres not much u can do about it is there.
p.s sorry to hear about your mate ‘ the bear ‘
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October 12th, 2006 at 10:38 pm
Fuck why not just ban teenagers from driving all-together. So many rules its so bullshit!!!!!!! Im with Dennis in no 95. Give us a go for fuck sake! Stop making a fuckign million rules up coz the world has enough bullshit atm!!!!
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October 14th, 2006 at 10:39 pm
ATTENTION PEOPLE. No where does it say in the new laws that once you get your learners you have to have it for at least a year. That part of the law is only for people who get their L’s at the age of 16.
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October 15th, 2006 at 9:21 am
For example if someone has there birthday on the 23rd of January 2007 and they turn 16 then, then they get their L’s on the 23 of july but they still get only 6 months. This rule comes into place for people that turn 16 after the 1st of july
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October 15th, 2006 at 9:36 am
As for this high powered vehicle crap What is the difference bettwen a 8cyl car travelling at 180km/h as apposed to a 6cyl car travelling at 180km/h? When they both hit the wall at the same speed the damage is exactly the same. same speed same damage. this is the same as 4cyl cars they all go to at least 100km/h so there is absolutely no difference in having an 8cyl, 6cyl or 4cyl. Another thing also have an R31 nissan skyline. It has t he R30E engine in it which is not a V6 engine it is an inline 6cyl engine. These inline 6cyl engines have the potential of getting 240 KW of power out of them with out putting turbos or superchargers or anything like a power enhancing “add on”. s a matter of fact any 6cyl has this potential. anyway all that needs to be done is to let the engine breath better. My father owned a Datsun 240Z 1974 model when he was my age 16. by the time he was 20 he had that car turning out speeds of over 240km/h with out putting any power enhancing
“add ons” on it. All he did was work with what the car already has. What he did to that car was legal back in his time and will still be legal after the 1st of july 2007. So this whole no turbos or superchargers crap will be eventually beaten with people getting smarter in the way that they enhance their cars performance.
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October 15th, 2006 at 2:22 pm
if i turn 16 March 2007….. under old rules i could get my learners in September only…. but under new rules i could go in July then…. is that right?
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October 16th, 2006 at 3:30 pm
can you test drive a car when you are on your p’s in queensland
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October 16th, 2006 at 5:37 pm
hey im born on Jan 1st and will be 16 and a half on july first, do i come under the new or old law. Can i get my learners on July 1st and have them for 6 months or start at 16 and have them for 12 months and get my p’s at 17.
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October 17th, 2006 at 4:59 pm
these new laws are absolute bullshit does the queensland government actually think this is going to help keep the road fatalitys down its not going to stop young drivers driving at night and talking on phones
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October 18th, 2006 at 8:37 am
i am 22 have my learners i can go get my p’s in november and am due to have a second child soon ….how on earth am i ment to take my children to and from docters, daycare and all over normal daily routine visits when these restriction will be put in place? im sure that there are many people out there in the same situation as myself.. thanks to all the hoons and so called invincables on the road i am unabloe to carry out my everyday tasks without haveing to fork out for taxis. what is the point to owning any vehicle v8 or not if u have so many restrictions???? what a waste of money and time. I SAY FIX THE ROAD CONDITIONS AND MAKE IT HARDER TO GET YOUR LICENCE. AND TO THE GOVERNMENT - UR WAGES ARE PAYED BY US LOW INCOME EARNERS THAT NEED TRANSPORT TO GET AROUND NOT A CHAUFFER! GET A GRIP AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT ROAD CONDITIONS AND START WORRYING ABOUT WHO U MAY BE GIVING A LICENCE TO!
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October 21st, 2006 at 2:20 pm
i get my learners MAY next year and my p’s in november next year.. do i have to have my learners FOR 1 F*****G YEAR!?!?!.
or is that only for people who get their learners AFTER these bullshit rules come into effect.
someone hit me back with an answer.
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October 23rd, 2006 at 10:41 pm
hey i’m a little lost i turn 16 in january 22 nxt year so do these rules apply so me as well..?
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October 25th, 2006 at 4:29 pm
who the fuck decided on these rules they are so restrictive who cares if we drive high power cars cause the cops will just chase us they will be too lazy to do that FUCKING PIGS DIE DIE DIE!!!
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October 30th, 2006 at 12:55 am
you guys are fucking retarded
if you have your p’s before july next year then you will have none of the new restrictions
if you have your learners before july next year you will have none of the new restrictions for learners, but will have them for p’s.
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October 31st, 2006 at 10:30 pm
hey every1. atm i have 4 months till i get my learners. WOOHOO!!! anyway, i dont even need it hey. i just get lifts with my mates from school. but anyway, will those P1-P2 peices of shit apply to me?
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November 2nd, 2006 at 4:42 pm
Hey Jacko….. Thats gr8 yours getting your L’s Soon! But yeah you will be affected with the new rules! Dont Worry about it ..Because your age group will have the same affect! So there is no competition….. Remember its a good thing!
I’ll put this into simple words…
If your on your L’s going to your P’s before July 2007
YOU ARE NOT AFFECTED
If your get your L’s and going for your P’s after July 2007
THEN YOU ARE AFFECTED!
I hope that helps… I know this sucks but there isn’t much you can do!!
Peace Out!
Jd
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November 2nd, 2006 at 9:47 pm
thanks JD. and yes, that does suck! haha,
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November 3rd, 2006 at 9:04 pm
hey,
so im 16 on july 5th so that means i affected hey? what bullhit rules!!
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November 3rd, 2006 at 10:27 pm
sup emma,
yeah i would sorry mate. u should of been born earlier. lol just kidding.
catchya later
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November 5th, 2006 at 8:47 pm
You understand the new late night rules totally throw designated drivers out the window?
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November 5th, 2006 at 9:35 pm
good point emily. thats gonna screw everything up hey! i never thort of that.
laters JaCkO
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November 6th, 2006 at 12:42 am
i’m just finishing gr12 and went to plenty of parties and the designated driver thing never really happend, it is a good tool for argueing against the new rules however.
what worries me most about the driver restrictions is that it’s a blanket under21 thing, not just 16-21 or whatever so it fucks over young parents.
least i’m not effected at all, haaaaa
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November 6th, 2006 at 11:03 am
In reply to Emily on the designated driver issue - most of this is aimed at new first drivers - ie, someone getting their licence at the age of 17 and being on the P1 passenger restriction for the first 12 months, or in other words until you turn 18.
And of course, you would not be going to a licenced premisis or have other 17 yo friends that were drinking to be put in the position of designated driver while you are 17 will you :)
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November 6th, 2006 at 6:26 pm
Just so you know im fighting this becasue 20 days after this new law shit comes in in turn 16 and 6 months so im just as stuffed as you all. SO Dave i will end up being 18 and 6 months before im on P2 SO THERE!
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November 6th, 2006 at 10:05 pm
i think that some of these new rules r just absolutely stupid like as comment 10 has said HOW THE HELL R THEY GoING TO ENFORCE AND GOVERN THE BLUE TOOTH STUFF AS IT CAN B DONE BY VOICE NOW (well i know my phone can not sure bout some of the others)plus if ther putting restrictions on phones y not radios and cb’s ther just as bad!!!
and this power restriction rule as i was going to b a trady but saw the rules that r enforced in NSW and well i culdnt b one, and i didnt overlly enjoy going around in ppls sewers, like sreiously i think they wer using the toilet at the time we wer trying to unclog it.
some of the new rules r good but most of them i just sat ther and fuking laughed at!!! i like the log book idea of 100hrs as nsw has a 50hr log book. but if learner learns to drive in a v8 wen they get ther p’s they shuld b able to drive a fuken v8 as they wuld already know how to drive one its only if ther driving pussy as 4cylinders that they wuldnt know how to handle the extra power and most of the time rear wheel drive.
its just totally stupid i mean like come on its a good thing that your thinking about doing these types of things but comeone make them realistic or youths will just fuking break them any way
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November 6th, 2006 at 10:19 pm
To be completely honest- ive had to many friends in car accidents, due to stupid little things.
I think these are worth enforcing because face it, somepeople are just UNCO- - - - mobile phones are the worst!!
Although i struggle to find the solution to enforcing these rules to the full extent of the law, the Bluetooth and other mobile device restrictions are a good start.
To save a friends life, this is a small price to pay.
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November 7th, 2006 at 6:09 pm
Im going to shed light on all you kids who turn 16 and 6 months between july 1 and december 31.
because it pissed me off that i couldnt get my p’s until 17 and 6 months.
there is a crossover.
YES THERE IS.
this is an email sent to ME.
not to one of my friends/neighbour/goverment person.
ME.
Will a person who turns 16 ½ years
between 1 July 2007 and 31 December
2007 be disadvantaged by the new
rules?
Anyone turning 16 ½ yrs between 1 July
2007 and 31 December 2007 will be able
to apply to get their provisional driving
licence( MEANING YOUR P’S TO STUPID PEOPL) provided they;
X) have held their learners permit for at
least 6 months
X) have gained 100 hours supervised
driving experience or equivalent
X) are 17 years of age
X) have passed a practical driving test
Should you require any further information, please contact Queensland
Transport on telephone 13 23 80 between 8am and 5pm, Monday to Friday
YAY FOR US YOUNGINS!!
See
Because I’m nice
and that made my day
I hope it makes yours
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November 10th, 2006 at 8:50 am
Just posting, with these new passenger restrictions of carrying only one passenger under 21.. this will just get more young people on the road driving around cause they can’t go in the car with there friend, and hence cause more accidents, nice work there Qld Gov *big thumbs up*
as well as causing more accidents.. this is gonna damage the environment more.. more cars means more emissions.. guess they didn’t really think this thru too well.. although the rules are there for a reason, to protect us.
I think i’m lucky enough to miss out on this law, as i’m going for my driving test in the next month.. so i think i may miss out on these laws, but i think this is all a bit unfair for those people who already have awesome V8 cars or supercharged cars.. they shouldn’t have to sell them, haha.. i only own a lil shitty festiva.. so i don’t have that issue =P unless u class that as a sports car haahahhaha..
Ash
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November 10th, 2006 at 4:12 pm
Dave,
Drinking at a private residence when you are under 18 is entirely legal and commonplace..
Designated Drivers are needed most for those under 18 because high school parties and 18th’s (where there is still alot of under age people) arn’t centrally located and near regular all-night public transport.
Most nightclubs and big pubs are in the Fortitude Valley or City and thus designated drivers are unnecessary for most people who are over 18.
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November 11th, 2006 at 8:29 pm
Hey emily, that really makes alot of sense seens as though i fit into that 6 month bracket.. thanks
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November 11th, 2006 at 10:04 pm
The new rules should be from 1 January 2007!!!
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November 12th, 2006 at 9:18 pm
just because a few stupid teenagers crashed their car and some died they have 2 punish every1 els? these new laws suck!!!
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November 13th, 2006 at 6:33 pm
High iam 15 and born on the 22 of february 1991 and would be getting my l plates in january 2007 but with the new laws i can’t get it until july just because the government is taking so long to bring the new laws in and i am goin to get a WRX STI regardless of the law
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November 13th, 2006 at 9:48 pm
i get my p’s in may 2007 scince i have my p’s how long do i have to have my p1 till i have to get my p2
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November 14th, 2006 at 5:12 pm
I am gettin a mitsbishi magna with a 3.5 litre engine with a top speed of about 240KMS an hour so wat is the point of the car regulations
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November 14th, 2006 at 5:16 pm
The point is that your Magna can’t get from 0-100 in anything less than 8-9 seconds whilst the performance cars can, besides, your Magna’s speedo goes up to 240, it doesnt mean the car will actually be in one piece at that speed :)
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November 14th, 2006 at 5:18 pm
ay joel me u flash carrs fuck the goverments stupid laws
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November 14th, 2006 at 5:20 pm
well alborz its has alredy been done and its still in one peice ya know it all
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November 14th, 2006 at 5:23 pm
i can think of at least ten standard six cylinder cars that will do over 240kmh, so banning turbos and v8’s isn’t goin to stop shit
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November 14th, 2006 at 5:28 pm
Heh, well thats good Brock, I guess,
but the point is that sport cars will make younger drives feel safer to speed thinking they can better handle the speed (which is actually true) but hence the bs reasons to ban turbo/v8/supercharged cars.
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November 14th, 2006 at 5:29 pm
As for Joels comment about getting an STi.. I have to say thats a little excessive for a 15 year old! As a WRX driver, the power that you get is hard to control, an STi will be insane specially if you haven’t driven much.
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November 14th, 2006 at 5:32 pm
do u have a wrx sti alboring or are u just talkin shit
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November 14th, 2006 at 5:35 pm
I dont have an STi. I have a WRX.
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November 14th, 2006 at 5:40 pm
do u have an msn addy alborz because this site is for comments not conversations
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November 14th, 2006 at 5:46 pm
I drove a 98 model 3.5 Litre magna for a few years Brock, it was an alright car, but I was far to scared to take it to those speeds. Felt very unstable at high speeds.
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November 14th, 2006 at 5:51 pm
did u have low profile tyers
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November 14th, 2006 at 10:06 pm
I think these laws are bullshit in qld but i live in nsw , sydney and we already have the system of P1 and P2 im getting my P’s in may 2007 so the laws wont apply to me on my red P’s but are the laws going to apply in nsw to or is it just qld and once i get my red P’s and go for my green P’s in 2008 will the new laws apply to me
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November 14th, 2006 at 10:08 pm
SUCKED IN QLDER’S I LIVE IN NSW
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November 15th, 2006 at 9:05 pm
im 17 and i can’t yet get my licence because i’m epileptic. yeah, the laws will effect me. but even so, what the hell?? everyone has raised really good point, except for the one above mine. lol. what you should all do is bring it up with queensland transport . we have 142 complaints. how will they not listen? besides, they say that only ppl under 25 drive crazy? i’ve seen more ppl over 25 driving like hoons. by the looks of things, they are trying to stop us from driving all together. all of u are completely right. these new laws are ridiculous and way too strict
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November 15th, 2006 at 9:10 pm
Queensland should stop trying to better nsw with everything they do and leave the laws as they were
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November 16th, 2006 at 11:42 am
i agree joel. queensland always has to follow other states. its annoying. these laws are uterly rediculous! theres going to be so many young ppl with records for breaking the law on the road. what if this effects getting jobs? will there be a raise in unemployment?
queensland gov should re think theese rules.
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November 16th, 2006 at 4:57 pm
yeah people that have kept themselves record free for 17 years will have records because of these laws, they are way too strict for anyone to follow
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November 19th, 2006 at 5:23 pm
i think all the new laws coming in are gay… i dont think the young people are the problem… how many accidents do you see on the side of the road and how many of them do you see making the papers and the news? they only show the ones that they want to show cause of all the “hooning”.. i just think its a load of bull shit, if they where to bring in any tough new laws they should be making people over 70 to take the driving test again, they are a menace!! if they where serious about this crap maybe they should make it compolsary (cant spell) to do a defence driving course and the government pay for it… im a 21 year old car nutter i drive a nissan skyline and ive never had an accident or even come close to one… (touch wood)