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Queensland Driver Licence new rules Curfews and 12 month learners

By Alborz Fallah |

Update 9/01/2007 : A more detailed description of the new laws is available here
Queensland is set to introduce new rules for new drivers, including night curfews, passenger restrictions and the banning of high-powered cars in 2007. Part of the new rules includes a huge 100 hours of supervised learner driving will be enforced before taking the drivers test while Queensland Transport said that talking on hands-free mobiles while at the wheel will be illegal for many young Queenslanders from July 1, when the tough new reforms are introduced! Even with a hands-free! How completely stupid.

Queensland is also set to finally introduce P-plates to go along NSW and VIC, also learner licence period is set to double to 12 months in what is set to become the nation’s most rigid licensing system. The legislation will apply to provisional and learner drivers under 25. New drivers over that age will also be subjected to some of the new requirements.

The main changes to the system coming into effect in July 2007 are:

  • lowering the minimum learner age to 16 and extending the licence period to 12 months
  • gaining 100 hours of certified supervised on-road driving experience for learners under 25s
  • restricting all mobile phone use, including hands-free, blue-tooth accessories, and loud-speaker functions, for learner and P1 provisional licence holders under 25
  • restricting mobile loud-speaker functions for supervisors and passengers of learner and P1 provisional licence holders under 25 while under instruction
  • motorbike learners will be required to hold a car provisional licence for 12 months prior to gaining a motorbike learner licence
  • introduction of a two-phased P1 and P2 provisional licence system
  • compulsory L plates (a black L on a yellow background) and P plates (a red plate for P1 and green plate for P2)
  • peer passenger restrictions (only carrying one passenger aged under 21) from 11pm to 5am for P1 under 25
  • high-powered vehicle restrictions for provisional drivers under 25
  • after 12 months on P1, licence holders must pass a hazard perception test to progress to P2
  • late night driving and other restrictions for disqualified and suspended young drivers

Queensland transport says that too many young people are dying on Queensland roads, with 17-24 year olds one of the most at-risk groups. In 2005 just 13 per cent of our drivers were young people, and yet 32 per cent of our road toll 106 fatalities came as a result of young driver crashes. This statistic is being used by QLD Transport to push down these new and extreme laws.
Queensland Transport and Main Roads Minister Paul Lucas said opposition to the “tough new line” was expected.

“We realise some of these changes won’t please everyone, particularly young people, but their lives are at stake and we have had to make hard decisions,” Mr Lucas said.

State driver groups, including the RACQ and MTAQ, had been instrumental in shaping the reforms, he said. Queensland Opposition Leader Lawrence Springborg said some of the new licensing measures were over the top.

“In a decentralised state such as Queensland, several of the rules will be extremely difficult to enforce and will be open to abuse,” Mr Springborg said.

“What’s more, the reforms discriminate against new drivers under 25 by being fairly lenient on new drivers over that age. Confidence on the roads comes down to driving experience, not age.“

RACQ spokesman Gary Fites said restricting the use of high-powered vehicles would be hard to monitor.

“It was the only one of the new measures that we (the RACQ) weren’t so sure about,” Mr Frites said.

I am located in Queensland and although these rules don’t apply to me I have to say, honestly, the more rules and regulations that are put in place to limit Young Drivers from driving, the worse things will get. I would like to see the police enforcing the high-powered cars rule. For a start, who will classify what cars as high powered? What will constitute a high powered car? Will it be a blanket No V8s, no Turbocharger, no Supercharger approach? Would that mean kids can’t drive their parents Nissan Patrol? Or take the landcruiser for a spin? What about dad’s V8 commodore? How will that work?

I would like RACQ to tell me if one single person under 25 was even consulted for these changes, 12 month learners period is simply just stupid. The longer the period the more chance of learner drivers on the road without a license. 12 months is just enormous! If you are getting your learners you are keen to get your drivers license and whilst I agree that not everyone with a drivers license knows how to drive, I can’t imagine why RACQ and QLD transport are only targeting young drivers!

There are plenty of older drivers who are more of a menace than young drivers, why not introduce:

  • compulsory defensive driving courses
  • compulsory safety courses
  • change the driving test so its more set for the real world as oppose to following a few basic rules

Why is that the driving courses still require drivers to do a parallel park when they never teach you what todo if your aquaplaning the car of it you’ve lost control in the wet, or how to deal with a car with ABS etc etc? Why does the QLD government always take the easy way out of trying to fix the road toll problem. Its not a two step process of putting more speed cameras and tougher laws. There needs to be more education for younger drivers and less restrictions. Many young Drivers will always want to speed, so why not give the chance to do just that in a safe environment?
Furthermore, 100 hours of supervised learning before taking the test? Are they serious? Who can afford that! What if the young driver going for his or her test doesn’t have their parents car to practise on? Are they going to pay $40/hr for 100 hours to get that log book filled up? Thats $4,000!

What about the complete lack of attention to older drivers who are also a menace on the road? Why isn’t there new regulation to require a special 4WD license for people to drive big 4WDs in the city? There needs to be understanding by the Government and RACQ (whom I have now lost all utter respect for) to realize that young drivers are not the source of the problem. Sure they might have a higher accident rate, but thats mainly due to lack of experience and 100 hours of paid lessons is simply over the top, instead of the 100 hours they need to make the driving test much harder, and include real world situations in a proper testing environment on a track so they can take the car out of control. If they want safety, this isn’t the solution.


 
  • http://gokufigoneojin.spaces.live.com/ amanda

    son of a bitch! that is so stupid! young people are either going to be mega pissed off and break all the rules or just say ‘screw that’ and not even drive at all. I’m 2 months away from getting my P’s so either way, those new rules apply to me :(

  • F!LL

    Nicely said! Learner drivers, regardless of their age, should be given a much more challenging testing process to make them more aware of the dangers on the road. Defensive driving courses should be compulsory, drivers who haven’t used their manual licenses in over 5 years should lose their manual priviledges, drivers over 65yo should be forced to do several tests to prove their reaction, sight and hand-eye co-ordination, etc, etc…

    This is just another way for the government to rake more money out of young Australians who are already finding it difficult to make a dollar as it is. What comes next I wonder? I thought this was a democratic society? How can they make a decision based on the word of the people when they don’t go to the source?

  • http://blog.chrisduran.eu/ Chris

    Perhaps, just perhaps, Australia should stop treating its citizens like idiots, and start treating them like people ? The number of hoops that people have to jump through, and the level of government run ‘tests’ that people have to do is already too high – do we really want to add more? Isn’t it funny that despite a complete lack of legislation in Europe on driving rules in comparision to Australia, and a generally higher speed limit on road, that they seem to have less accidents? It is well easy to get a drivers licence in Europe compared to Aus so it isn’t that. Perhaps by introducing STRICTER rules we won’t make it any easier?

  • Steven

    Iam 16 and hold a RE motorcycle lerners licence. The new rules say that i have to hold a P1 car licence to even get my bike learners. Dose that mean that i have to wait and hold a car P1 licence for one year even tho i already hold my RE motorcycle lerners licence, or dose the new laws not affect me as i already hold my bike learners?

  • http://www.alborzfallah.com alborz

    Hey Steven
    the new laws dont come into force till mid next year, if I were you, I’d get my bike license before then!

  • katrina

    i think these new rules are stupid, i’ve had my licence for a year now and i own my v8 clubsport and there is no way im going to trade that in for a beep beep barina. the government reckon were adults at 18, well treat us like adults, and if you want us to do all these ‘compulsory’ defensive and safety courses, then i hope the governments paying for them other wise you can stick em! cause im sure us young adults have better things to do and spend our money on…..

  • John

    If you have your P’s before the new law comes into affect are you affected by the law when it does

  • Chris

    im 15 at the moment and was born on january the eleventh and will be getting my learners next year in July (the same month these laws come in) so if I get my learners then after these laws have come ni i will have to have my licence for 12 months from when i’m sixteen and a half; meaning i won’t get my P’s until im 17 and a half. fair?

  • cole

    i reckon that is stupid i am 16 and i have owned a 1951 ford custom for just over a year its a v8 and i have spend all my money on it, does that mean i can’t drive it with these new rules. THAT STINKS!!!

  • Matt

    Well, well, well. Aren’t these laws laughable.

    Quote 1: “Gaining 100 hours of certified supervised on-road driving experience for learners under 25s”

    Whats not stopping people filling out the book anyway, even though they have not driven? Someone could just do 10 hours driving and put down 100. It prooves nothing.

    Quote 2: “Restricting all mobile phone use, including hands-free, blue-tooth accessories, and loud-speaker functions, for learner and P1 provisional licence holders under 25 and restricting mobile loud-speaker functions for supervisors and passengers of learner and P1 provisional licence holders under 25 while under instruction.”

    My oh my how will this be policed. All handsfree kits have automatic answer and auto hang up. I use mine all the time. Its fantastic. So how will the police know im using one? I could just be singing along to a song on the radio. And same thing with the passengers.

    Quote 3: “High-powered vehicle restrictions for provisional drivers under 25″

    This will mean disaster for young apprentices. Diesel HiLux’s and so forth are commonly used for work vehicles and can be turbo’d. This is for the extra pulling power to pull heavy machinery and parts, not for speed.

    Quote 4: “Introduction of a two-phased P1 and P2 provisional licence system”

    Useless if your not going to enforce speed restrictions.

    Quote 5: “Late night driving and other restrictions for disqualified and suspended young drivers”

    What the bloody hell is a suspended driver doing on the road in the first place?

    Quote 6: “Peer passenger restrictions (only carrying one passenger aged under 21) from 11pm to 5am for P1 under 25″

    Whats not to say that someone over the age of 21 isn’t mature enough? I know plenty of hoons and reckless drivers over the age of 21. If your going to make this a rule, make it on all ages. This rule will also annoy tradesmen.

    Sorry Queensland Police and Queensland Transport, this is a case of go home and try again.

    • matt

      Quote 5: “Late night driving and other restrictions for disqualified and suspended young drivers”

      What the bloody hell is a suspended driver doing on the road in the first place?

      i think it means if you loose your licence you go back onto your p’s for a year…. well thats what happened to me, the late night driving thing is a mongrel…. i cant have anything to drink, and i have to drive home by 11pm… what sort of garbage is that! im 26 in a few months, i wonder if i get my opens back?

  • tiffany

    i have just recently turned 16 and go for my learners in jan. in july i will be 17 so whats ment to happen with it all for me then??

  • http://www.alborzfallah.com alborz

    it means that ur learners will still be 6 months but you will face all the new P1,P2 rules

  • louise

    If i turn 16 this december and get my learners in june 2007 will the one year learners apply?

  • http://www.alborzfallah.com alborz

    no, as long as you get it before July, you will only have your learners for 6 months. Its rather funny, but its the only way they could implement it i guess.
    Get it before July!

  • http://www.com.com Jordon

    Well i would say its crap, because its ridiculous to restrict younger drivers, especially since most accidents happen because of dumb fat suburbian middle age’d wankers who drive their 4wd’s whilst trying to call people to find out if their partners are cheat’n on them, FOR GOD SAKES YES THEY ARE BECAUSE YOUR FAT,BALD AND STUPID. so inclusiion fuk your laws if wanna drive a v8 a bloody will because i already got my P’s. DR.Jordoneus

  • Evo

    iv had my learners 4 over 6 months and am ready to get my p’s will these new rules affect me at all?

  • http://www.alborzfallah.com alborz

    Hmm, good question,
    if you get your license now, you will avoid having to wear P1 plates, and given that your not in the P1 system, I would doubt you will need to have P2 plates.

    My advice to everyone who hasn’t got their learners or has their learners and is waiting to get their license. Do it NOW!

  • SeaNo

    hahaha sucked in to every1 affected by dis law really sux but proud not to b a youngin’…

    i just had to say dat, nd i rekon gud on da rules will be gud at stoppin sum up cumin hoons step in da ryt direction… but da fact is da new generation pays for da mistakes of current hoons real gud justice these dayz ay.

    still dont affect me…but if dey did i think dey need to reconsider da performance car ones more hoons in shiit boxes dese dayz stupid holden hoons den hot modded cars that hav drivers dat take alot of care not to scratch em nd stuff.

    No matter wat happens u will alwayz have da so called hardcore fully sik drifers dat will take big bro’s silvia or skyline nd crash into da nearest pole, young ppl 2day like breakin rules nd da satisfaction of gettin away wid it. so like most suggestions go driver awareness programs to educate u silly ppl wantin to b da nxt TAKUMI or DRIFT KING.

    datz just my view, i know u guyz rekon it sux but memba it will save lives nd for one more life saved it makes da whole thing worth it.

    memba kids dont drinkn nd drive or do drugs

  • Yuki

    this new enforcement is soooo stupid omg not all young people are bad drivers and get into accidents, wat the hell is ‘on ur p one liscence from 11pm to 5am u can have only 1 passenger’ ?? so if im driving my friends out for a good night on the town, i have to leave them there drunk and let who knows what happen to them ? i wont i dont give a fuk ill still drive them, ur just giving me more rules to break! wats even more rediculous is how they are going to prevent us from buying certain cars….. u think u can control that ? coz it wont it just makes things more fun and thrilling driving around in an ”illegal” car dipshits!

    100 hrs with an instructor ? ur fuken nuts how bout u pay for it then aye ? coz i already have to pay 42 dollars a lesson and i have no parent to teach me how to drive, $4000 where am i gonna pull that out from? if i can only afford one lesson a wk.

  • Candy

    Im 15 at the moment and i was born in Janurary… does this mean i have have to have my learners for 1 year and i have to wait until im 17 and half to get my p’s cos if i have to this new law is screwed and y should i miss out because of it…. Law fair my arse…

  • http://www.alborzfallah.com alborz

    If you can’t get your learners before July 2007, you will have to have your learners for 12 months. So in your case, it sounds like you miss it by a matter of days!

  • Bullzeye

    What a load of crap, i’m 18 and drive a street registered naturally aspirated V6 VR commodore putting out 240HP to the wheels pulling low 14′s along the 1/4 which is on par with most skylines and forced induction cars, how they guna stop people from driving modified cars like this, a new breed of performance car will be born, if your that keen you dont need a turbo or blower to make power it just takes more money but it can be done. Unless they put every registered car on a dyno the laws are powerless and will push people to suck more power out of the naturally aspirated sixes. Just let people have there fun while there young and still can.

  • Big Mac

    if i get my P’s befor these laws come out do i miss them or what happen’s cause they say nothing about who gets to miss them…….

  • Big Mac

    i already have my L’s and get my P’s in FEB 2007 so i will miss all these stupid laws right
    ???
    and why should us young drivers be banded for so many things when its all the older and elderly people who r really causing a thret and we get hit for it… i thought the big AUS was ment to be a fair place… well i was wrong….. It’s not really fair for us… i am new to this sight and have been reading all the comments and they r all good points why should we have to do all these courses hell they can shove it unless they r paying for it i got better things to spend my money on beside more tests.. if i pass my driver test its cause i know what to do and have done it by the law so to hell with all these stupid laws…..

    so i miss them right??? lol :-D

  • http://www.alborzfallah.com alborz

    No mate,
    u will get stuck on the P1-2 system.
    Get your license ASAP so at least u wont have to put up with the P1 rules, but u will have to do another test to get your P2s come next year

  • jAcKo

    yeah g’day ppl
    i turned 16 last month which means i get my learners in feb. so all that crap bout P1′s and P2′s applies to me hey?

  • Big Mac

    so how does this P1-2 work? whats it all about?

  • Natalie

    hey question??
    ive owned my 180sx turbo now for a year next year will be 2( by july 07) yes im on my L and will be on my P plates in the next month. So wat happen im not allowed to drive my car even though ive spent the last year sanding it respray and money???? I OWN IT!!! they gonna buy me a new 1???? im certainly not sellin it…:(
    only the few wreck it for us car enthusiests
    whoops they have F@#ked it !!!

  • troy

    all these new laws r so stupid i know that many pl who have sunk all there time and hard erned money on there “high performance” car yes these cars go fast and just like any car if u crash it a gonna hurt many ppl can get power or of n/a car it ain’t hard if ya wanna do internal mods hows that going to be policed what, they goin to pull the engine down to find out don’t think so
    by doin these new laws people r just going tofind new ways to mod te n/a 6′s the same happened when they made p platers on a moter bike only ride a 250 they r still capable of in excess of 250 km/h

  • http://www.alborzfallah.com alborz

    The P1 P2 system, is similar to the one used in NSW, except that there is no speed restrictions (as far as QLD transport have so far mentioned) so, pretty much the only difference is, if you are on your Ps you cant drive a performance car, and you gotta have P plates on your car so you can look like a dick

  • alex

    so does that mean when i get my l’s before the new rules i’ll have to go back to the start and do 100 hrs

  • http://techtoucian.net/ Ashley

    Ouch. I can’t wait.

    Maybe you should post up a clarification: I’m already on my p-ness plates, am I likely to get whacked by the second half of this law?

  • KAZZA

    FUCK YOU and fuck your rules!! i am getting a high powered vehicle wether u like it or not. im getting my p’s next year and i will fuckign drive it.. try and stop me.. i am actually one of them people who dont do stupid thigns in their cars 24/7 why punish the people who do good things.. fuck the government.
    ive lost all respect for the ” PIGS! and them dumb as pen pushers in parliment.

  • that guy

    i moved from sydney to brisbane thre for i am 1 year or so younger than all of my mates.. so al of my mates cant drive V8′s ot turbocharged cars.. that seem fair? they also dont have cerfews or anything this is just not fair.. how are the pigz guna police these new rules anyway? theres guna be so many angry teens out there effected by these new ” idiotic” rules and they will most probably dissobay them.why does QLD allways have to follow the other states.. this is shit . a real fucking hit and miss Mr Lucas ” one to blame here” can honestly get fucked.. for ruining our fun. when u get your p’s its like having your wings.. only these road rules is like having your wings clipped and only REALLY flying when your 21. so.. the governemtn CAN FUCK! OFF!! fucking bunch of wankers

  • that guy

    i moved from sydney to brisbane thre for i am 1 year or so younger than all of my mates.. so al of my mates can* drive V8’s ot turbocharged cars.. that seem fair? they also dont have cerfews or anything this is just not fair.. how are the pigz guna police these new rules anyway? theres guna be so many angry teens out there effected by these new ‘’ idiotic’’ rules and they will most probably dissobay them.why does QLD allways have to follow the other states.. this is shit . a real fucking hit and miss Mr Lucas ‘’ one to blame here’’ can honestly get fucked.. for ruining our fun. when u get your p’s its like having your wings.. only these road rules is like having your wings clipped and only REALLY flying when your 21. so.. the governemtn CAN FUCK! OFF!! fucking bunch of wankers

  • john whiting

    Are they trying to take all of our fun away. Give us a break! once your 18 your suposed to be free arnt you… this is so stupid

  • Bones

    i moved from sydney to brisbane thre for i am 1 year or so younger than all of my mates.. so al of my mates can* drive V8’s ot turbocharged cars.. that seem fair? they also dont have cerfews or anything this is just not fair.. how are the pigz guna police these new rules anyway? theres guna be so many angry teens out there effected by these new ‘’ idiotic’’ rules and they will most probably dissobay them.why does QLD allways have to follow the other states.. this is shit . a real fucking hit and miss Mr Lucas ‘’ one to blame here’’ can honestly get fucked.. for ruining our fun. when u get your p’s its like having your wings.. only these road rules is like having your wings clipped and only REALLY flying when your 2

  • weener

    who do you think you are taking our driving away from us your a wanker poodle head

  • Sarah

    Does this mean we keep doing our p1′s & p2′s and get our open licence’s on the 3rd year of our p’s.?

  • Tara

    i have grown up with v8 cars and they’re all i know, shouldnt the government be encouraging driving environments that people are comfortable with. I’ve heard that SA dosnt have speed limits and don’t they have the lowest road death toll…dosnt this tell u something…and the whole 100 hours of supervised driving, with the rising petrol prices people arent going to be able to afford the whole 100 hours thing..when the death toll does go down it will only be a result of half the population not on the roads…not that people are being safer on them..i plan to go to university..how the hell am i going to pay for uni and fuel on top!

  • Kare

    If you think there should be no car’s being allowed v8 enignes. If that’s the law they want they should provide the car to everyperson in queendland on the p’s or l’s that does not have a v8 engine. & only goes to a certain speed.Instead of having people allowed to have certain car’s it rediculous. Having to do 100 hours to do as well.. the gouvernment should pay for the fuel as well. Prices are becoming rediculous.!!

  • Tara

    hi just me again..i was just reading the part about hands free thiung and that passengers arent allowed to have their phones on speaker phone, does this mean that if your in the car with your passenger you’re not allowed to talk to them, isnt it the same as hands free??

  • http://www.alborzfallah.com alborz

    Hmm, well, thats the whole point I guess, the laws are stupid and impossible to govern. I am not sure how they are going to tell if someone is simply talking to the person next to them or talking on speaker phone using their mobile.

    I can only image, as I mentioned in the article, that RACQ has not even talked to anyone below the age of 30 to get some opinion because if they had, they would have realized that actually governing these new rules is impossible! How can you tell when you drive past that the driver is talking on speaker phone or simply singing along to the radio? Or as you mentioned, talking to the person next to them.

    Go QLD Transport.

  • Big Mac

    what does P2 mean like i miss P1 so what does it all mean????

  • Simon

    Hey guys, sorry i soughta dont get this at all one bit, I turn 16 on September 29th i was born in 1990 does all these rules apply to me? i am soo confused about i am a carholic and i just adore all the turbos superchargers and V8′s and is the government going to take it away from me? please some one help me out,

    cheers Sim

  • SeaNo

    HAS NEONE ASKING QUESTION ACTUALLY READ DA LEGISLATION???

    OK noobs its obvious half da lil kiddyz here dont undastand wats happenin…

    If u can manage to get ur Ps b4 July nxt year u r safe from the new legislation all together and it doesnt effect you, datz ryt no P1 or P2 or P-plates on ur car. this is bcuz when u get ur Ps under the current law u have them for 3yrs or wateva nd get ur opens (cant wait)and bcuz the new law is not mandatory yet the old rules only apply. da rest of u youngin’z will be SKREWED by the new laws(enjoy mums 20kw atw, excel). About enforcement of the laws, as many hav said it will b difficult to enforce handsfree etc… well dese dayz copz can get u busted for nethin they hav da power nd dey can do wat dey want wid it MY ADVICE IS DONT BE A COCK and ull b fine…

    Y u all sayin skrew da government nd new road rules??? der made for a reason, and that is to save lives. so if da whole of QLD is to suffer to save one extra life its still worth it, ive done heaps of research on dis topic nd at first seemed like dey wer all bein a bunch of A-grade tossers but i was wrong dey did it to save ppl (and make cash on da side cheap bastards)…

    Ohh one other thing sum guy said b4 bannin cars wid compressors aint gona solve a thing bcuz a FULLY SIK V6 can be just as quik wen tuned up ryt…yeh well unda new legislations modifications are bein banned as well so enjoy STOCKO v6 which im pretty sure will struggle to beat turbo cars. my solution get an any NA import all can b quik, Integra VTEC, Civic VTEC, FTO, Satria GTi, 206 GTi, pulsar SSS, Mazda 3 SP23 (dis car is crazy a stocko one beat a s14 nd 180sx both slightly modded turboed SR20s too) these 4cyl cars are eco for u cheap ass’ nd hammer good plus safe them bein front wheel drive (dont try hand brake slide outs yes its dangerous ive seen a Yaris try it dumbass spun out nd hit a tree)

    Newayz datz just my input to dis thingo

  • Rachel

    This is fuckiing shit!!! The government has no fucking idea how many ppl this affects and how rediculous it is… why are they even bothering, its not gona change how many ppls are dying on the roads, its just a huge pain in the ass for everyone, so why are they fucking us roound with all these laws!!!

  • Matthaus

    omfg, wtf is wrong with this government… this is only gonna make younger drivers want to break the rules just to be able brag to their friends… But seriously these new laws suck balls… STUPID FUCKING government cant even think straight, all they are doing are getting us young people ANGRY… what dont you STUPID FUCKERS understand i want a V8!!!!
    all i can say is FUCK YOU and FUCK YOUR RULES!! WANKERS

  • Samantha

    this is so stupid. i read some of the comments and im 15 now and born in january and because of like 15 or so days i hav to be on my learners an extra 6 months. how is this fair!?!?!?! is there a way i can get around it?

  • Samantha

    p.s. SeaNo who wrote that long thing… ur a wank… thats it…

  • Samantha

    lol ok three in a row i know….but no one consulted us before they brought these rules in and that just fucks us all off

  • SeaNo

    IM SILLY samantha ok think about wat u said u aint happy cuz u hav ur licence for extra 6 months well guess wat u can drive 6 months earlier datz is sumthin i wish i cud of had…wait hold up i just saw ur D.O.B haha all i can say is skrewed well i must say ur in the brithday bracket dat suffers da most
    haha Samantha is so angry well just think about the extra time u get to spend wid mummy nd daddy. ive seen the way most young girls and even sumtimes guyz drive dese dayz and sum added practise myt b useful.

    “With the fatality rate of young people (17-25yo) 35% of all road toll (considering that the total population of young people is only 15% out of the total) from the previous 26% of road toll (only 12% of total population) its clear to say that there has been a good decrease in overall road fatalities, but there has been quite a nominal change to that of young drivers.”(from the past two decades)

    those figures do need to get addressed…

  • SeaNo

    NEW LAWS WOOT WOOT!!! HAIL THE NEW LAWS IN ALL THEIR IMMENSITY p.s. samantha if u want sum1 to drive u round take a cab u cheap bastard oh nd wen u turn 16 (the age of legality) call me ;)

  • Brett

    ur all young dickheads like me but open ur eyes and dont just critisise the government u blind close minded fools…the rules are set for a reason because of the idiots who cant follow the speed limit….

  • Kate

    Hey beka..
    What ya doin?? this is boring… I hope these laws dont happen lol they will…:@ i hate the government had to be this year didnt it.. oh well tlk to ya soon lub you hehe x

  • poodle

    hello you smell funny and you can haha poo smelly your rules suck

  • cameron

    sorry but tel me we put our car in our parents name wat can da pigs do about dat hay.and who ever is effected by dis law we did sweet fuk all to make dis law happen its all those older diks dat fuk it all up 4 us so GO AND JAM UR LAW UP JOHNY HOWARDS RINKLY ASS!

  • NESH

    Holy Fuken SHIT … im a mechanic … im around cars 24/7 … and im only on my P’s …this is fuked im not allowed to take test drives anymore… wats even more bullshit is that i have my Dream Car (Toyota Soarer Twin Turbo) and i cant even fuken drive it… doesnt the goverment understand the cars that get riden off are slow shitboxes that the owners dont care about and redline them at 250km/h … it doesnt mater wat car u have they can all go fast it just takess a little time and … THERE ALL FUKHEADS ARGGGGGG

  • NESH

    Oh and Brett and any one else who agress with these laws are fuken nerds that can suck on my cock cos no one is gonna turn over for the cops…

  • Big Mac

    we shouldn’t be blaming the gov for this… we should be blaming all those fuk head drivers out there trying to show off and getting people killed…. the gov is just looking out for us…. but that doesn’t mean i agree with these laws.. even thow i miss them all and the P rules i miss also…. there r a few things they could have keept out like the V8 and super charged and all that… a 4cyl can do as much damage as a V8

    but this drivers safty test is stupid… if they pay for it then i will go otherwise i have better things to do….

    i feel sorry for all u guy’s that have to go with these laws coming out….

  • Sharna

    i turn 16 in april of next year.
    so does this mean i can get my L’s
    in july?
    or do i have to wait until im 16 and a half?
    because the new law comes in after my birthday?

    & also
    “peer passenger restrictions (only carrying one passenger aged under 21) from 11pm to 5am for P1 under 25″
    does this mean between 5am and 11pm you can have the normal amount of passengers?

  • eLi

    i dont rekn the new laws r that bad! u get 2 start driving wen ur 16 insted ov 16 and a half!!!! u stil get ur license wen ur 17 so wots tha dif?! and how r tha cops guna no bout tha fone thing? tha only thing that sux is if ur bdai is in january…like mine! u get em wen ur 17 and a half now that reeeeeeeeeli sux!!!!!!! pissed of!! y cant they make the rules start at the beginning of the year?! thats kinda logical isnt it?! but meh ill get ova it. oh nd it sux that u cant hav good cars!! :(

  • SeaNo

    HAHA IM BAK TO FIX DA BAD LANGUAGE ND MIS-INTURPRETATIONS U 15yr old, grade 10 boyz nd gurlz are experiencing!!

    TOP GEAR is awsume love dat show i duno y i said dat but yeh u gota watch it…

    lets answer sum questions cuz im on da know it all (Legal Assignment) on dis topic…

    so Mr mechanic boy u can drive wateva u want cuz u aint affected by dis legislation

    However id b worried if my mechanic nd wanted ur “DREAM CAR” that is a soarer…yes da motor is quite gud but datz bout it, der too FAT dey aint dat pretty nd fuel, well it aint got ne left in da tank afta u start da thing up it… dont get mad im comparin to da GTR park in ma drive way.

    yes Sharna u can take ppl as normal between those times…

    thumbs up to Brett at least one of us undastands y laws are made.if u guyz do legal studys durin ur skool life den ull undastand dat for a bill to b approved alot of assessing happens nd crap…

    newayz no one else to correct, so dont be a fool nd stay in skool so u dont end up being a mechanic who drives a Soarer

  • http://www.alborzfallah.com alborz

    Man thanks for the response SeaNo, but I had to run it through a translator to make it english. I think it must take you more time to write like that, than if you wrote normally?

  • turbo timer

    fuck me blind! if your going to post comments on here type it in english! lol.. these laws eat dick i dont care about em . ive already got my car me n dad have been working on it since i was 10 its a twin turbo R33 it runs low 13s it kicks ass. i love my cars and i feel deeply for the other poor souls affected by this.

  • http://blog.chrisduran.eu/ Chris

    lol – totally what I was thinking Alborz :)

    Although, in SeaNo’s defence, the full legislation is probably as difficult to read…

  • brodie

    yeh well ive just turned 16 and ive already got my car (nissan skyline) and i got that car coz it came stock with a turbo, that was the main reason i got it. Now i have to pay my parents back all the money n sell the car coz its fuckin useless without the turbo to me!

  • SeaNo

    oh yeh sorry guyz its all cuz of msn talking all short hand nd crap… and mine is in english well i thought it was…good to see people like there Japanese cars stupid aussie holdens and fords and there primitive technology ok dis was a unless post :)

  • http://youmother Loser

    Arghhhh these new laws stink :(

  • http://youmotherstinks.ya.rly.com Mrs. Tibbles

    Personally, I think these new laws are TERRIFIC! Thank god for this brilliant government we have here in Queensland, thank you Peter Beattie!

    Now all you youngsters, don’t be naughty now :) .

  • Brad

    Oooh. I wouldn’t go saying that “mrs tibbles”.. not at all.

    My thoughts simply..
    The rules are stupid.
    A lot of young people drive stupid, not all though.
    These rules make everyone in that age group suffer.
    They’re too restrictive.
    The government is full of idiots who put no thought into anything.
    It’s all about the money – the world revolves around it.

    It’s nearly a year away – maybe it’ll change by then?

  • turbo timer

    brad mate i agree with you, my thoughts exactly i hope they change by july 1 next year. Because of all the fucking idiots who do the stupid things the new drivers have to suffer because of them. its so stupid, THESE LAWS ARE WAY TO FUCKING RESTRICTIVE. so many people are guna break them.

  • Big mac

    i thin kits like school… a group talks we all get kept in….. well thats what its like a few fuking dick heads screw up and we all get punished…

  • http://www.jess-world.com jess

    im a lez mate i drov a v8 so whot

  • http://www.jess-world.com jess curtis

    i fuck 24/7

  • bogan

    fuck the rules

  • bloke

    ha these rules are completely unfair, fuck the pigs. phuck the rruulleezz!

  • Jayden betteridge

    i just bought a turbocharged V6 VN Holden Commodore i am only 16 in october and i don’t turn 17 till october next year so what happens will i have to sell the car or just take off the turbocharger and what age will i be able to put it back on

  • sam

    pfft pathetic dont expect me to follow any of these lame ass rules

  • josh

    fuck this you fuck head get fucked white dogs just cause im black you always pic on us black fellas

  • Jesus Christ

    You all suck fucking wankers expecialy the cock head who rekons 240hp from a nonturbo vr not possible fuck head

  • Mark

    im 15 at the moment, born 5th jan, i will be old enough to get my Ls 5 days after these new laws come in, is there any way i can get out of the 12 month learner period otherwise i wont get my Ps till im 17 and a half. The laws shouldve just stayed the same.

  • Mark

    plus is there any way i could my Ls 5 dasys earlier, how old is 16 and six months (exactly) anyways, thanx

  • cameron

    hey greeny ur a dikhaed.hey and cops look how many people r hatin these rulz al redy so i think wat every1 else thinks fuk u and fuk ur laws.and the goverment y dont u suk johny howards dik and balls a litle mor cause u aint stopin any ov us.And y the fuk do we hav to gothrow these laws i agree with mr frites fuk the laws

  • Kodak

    You guys are idiots, You can get your learners at 16 and get yours p’s at 17. Whats so fucking hard about reading facts and getting all worked up about this. The new laws are coming theres nothing u can do really. All i can say is i get my p’s in march so suck shit to the generation down from me, bad luck brothers XD

  • Adrian

    I’ll have my P’s by then, hopefully the new reg’s wont apply to me, I dont want to look like a dork driving around with p-ness plates on my car >_

  • John M

    i have 2 sons that are in the same boat as many of you other young men and women that are going to be affected by these rules, and as a father my concerns are most likely the same as most others about you our sons and daughters and that is for your safety, i strongly believe in the use of P plates – the reason for this is that as many of you have stated that you are not the ones breaking the rules but you are being penalised – well having P plates makes others aware that you are getting your confidence/and road sense that comes with years of experience – that road sense is being able to read (somewhat) another drivers mind as to what they may do in an unexpected situation, however when you are P platers you have not developed enough skills for others to be able to anticipate your moves – the P plates give those other people a chance to be aware that you may make a mistake and to allow you the room and time to make your decisions in what you are doing. The part about having only one other person in the car is a 2 sided sword – unfortunately it means you can’t have as many friends in your car at once as before, however during your learning process if you make a mistake there are less in the car to be hurt – it is a shame but it is a reality. Maybe rather than imposing these lengthy time frames on your qualifications (1 year for learners and then the time involved with P’s) maybe the driving should start with years 11 & 12 at school giving you the chance to learn there like they do overseas and then going through advanced drivers courses as well so you can get the skills to handle dangerous situations like rain, dirt or slick roads, etc. Like all of you my sons are not happy with the situation but these are the rules that have been put in place and i would hate to think that they are being imposed without the chance of todays youth having input into these rules. So take a moment and think – what rules could or should be in place to save you our loved ones from the dangers of the road. I am sure this forum wouyld be a great place to start to make suggestions if we speak in a civil manner.

  • jonny

    the p plates in theory are there to allow cars to know that uv had less experience, but in practise its the same as puting a sign saying “overtake me” on your bumper. Queensland has had p plates before just they removed the law because pplz saw a p plate driver and overtook the first place possible, even if they were doing the speed limit, whats to say that this wont happen again

  • roger

    hey can sum1 help me??

    i was born in july 1990 nd i get me L’s in Jan… Do i hav to follow all these shit P1 AND P2 rules??

    and me and my dad hav been restoring my XB 351 GT for the last 4 years am i gonna b allowed to drive it or do these fucked up rules fuck me over…

    Cheers, Roger

  • TheBear

    I’m 40yo, I live in Victoria, yeah, yeah I know F..ck off.
    Well as you say, I’ll do want I want.

    I do wish these laws did exist in Victoria, as stupid as they sound…
    Why…
    I lost my lifetime Best FRIEND/Buddy/Mate back in 2003, to a young _licensed_ idiot with a V8 Commode who speed @ 190+km/h hitting my best friends car and killing him, not instantly but BURNED TO DEATH, with onlookers watching & listening to him scream for help, ’cause they couldn’t put the fire out or get close enough. YES the F**ckwit is in jail, however that’ll NEVER bring back my best mate….
    I have also lost 3 other people due to idiots driving over the last 20 years.
    Stiff you say, well, tell that to his now 5yo Boy and Wife of 5 years….Imagine it if was YOUR Parent/Partner/Friend or Mate. or don’t you give a shit?????
    If these laws WERE in place, he WOULD be still here today, ’cause the young dick wouldn’t have been able to reach the 190+km/h, within 500 or so metres from the onramp before hitting my friends car. He obviously could not drive as well as HE THOUGHT.
    Yes the rules are crap, but because idiots like the you lot above who say ‘f*&ck you, I’ll do what & when I want’.
    Well back at ya, dickheads like YOU; ARE THE REASON Changes like this have to been made, you remember those “little” illegal street drags you practice in the most obvious of places, or donuts.
    You try to beat ‘em, they make it harder, maybe they should raise the age back up to 21 to get a license!!!!
    Now that cars can be consfiscated in Vic, Street Drags have all but stopped, I guess nobody wants to loose their ride…. but then some of their mates probably don’t realise, it is in a way to their avdvantage. Now they don’t have to worry which direction they have to run when some idiot, rooky driver MATE looses control into the crowd, that’s why street legal drags are held.
    YES it costs you money, but for your money you get ambulance and Fire fighters on standby on the spot.
    Oh finally to all those who are so f*&cking smart that they WON’T?? be caught, it’s only a matter of when.
    Cops will only have to check ANY car that meets those criteria(specs for those of you that can’t speak English), & check you & your ride. BINGO you’re history.

    And to just piss you off, How did I get my license, I was told to drive around the block… :-P

    TheBear

    P.S. Just remember, you might be bored, but if you follow the rules, more of you might actually make it to an older age

  • Big Mac

    very very good point there TheBear i am sorry to hear about your friend and the others….. i agree with you.. i don’t have my P’s yet but i am willing to wait i have my L’s already… i for shore will not be one of those hoons… its a waist of time fule and if u get cought money and point’s…. a guy at my school was doing 95km in a school zone (40km) and got done liences gone for 6months and a $700 fine… now really who wants that…. u all have to realise that a car is like a gun if used in a bad way someone can get hurt or worse killed… now im shore noone wants that on there hands do they…. so think befor u say u will do something and not get cought cause really time will tell… trust me…. and again thnx TheBear for your say….

  • roger

    is ne1 gunna write bak 2 me lol ^^^

  • dennis

    Oi these P plates are a fucking bullshit idea if someone sees a P plate they just think woopee a young driver who gives a shit and treats them the same as any1 else on the road but u drive past a coppa with ur P plates on they turn around and check up on you these rules are fucking bs and i for 1 am not going to follow ur lame ass rules

  • metallica

    i feel the same way about these rules dennis. but if u get caught u get a fine and other shit like restrictions at night all i can say is they have really bad timing at bringing these rules in. and they suck so much. but theres not much u can do about it is there.
    p.s sorry to hear about your mate ‘ the bear ‘

  • Knight

    Fuck why not just ban teenagers from driving all-together. So many rules its so bullshit!!!!!!! Im with Dennis in no 95. Give us a go for fuck sake! Stop making a fuckign million rules up coz the world has enough bullshit atm!!!!

  • Ashley

    ATTENTION PEOPLE. No where does it say in the new laws that once you get your learners you have to have it for at least a year. That part of the law is only for people who get their L’s at the age of 16.

  • Ashley

    For example if someone has there birthday on the 23rd of January 2007 and they turn 16 then, then they get their L’s on the 23 of july but they still get only 6 months. This rule comes into place for people that turn 16 after the 1st of july

  • Ashley

    As for this high powered vehicle crap What is the difference bettwen a 8cyl car travelling at 180km/h as apposed to a 6cyl car travelling at 180km/h? When they both hit the wall at the same speed the damage is exactly the same. same speed same damage. this is the same as 4cyl cars they all go to at least 100km/h so there is absolutely no difference in having an 8cyl, 6cyl or 4cyl. Another thing also have an R31 nissan skyline. It has t he R30E engine in it which is not a V6 engine it is an inline 6cyl engine. These inline 6cyl engines have the potential of getting 240 KW of power out of them with out putting turbos or superchargers or anything like a power enhancing “add on”. s a matter of fact any 6cyl has this potential. anyway all that needs to be done is to let the engine breath better. My father owned a Datsun 240Z 1974 model when he was my age 16. by the time he was 20 he had that car turning out speeds of over 240km/h with out putting any power enhancing
    “add ons” on it. All he did was work with what the car already has. What he did to that car was legal back in his time and will still be legal after the 1st of july 2007. So this whole no turbos or superchargers crap will be eventually beaten with people getting smarter in the way that they enhance their cars performance.

  • J

    if i turn 16 March 2007….. under old rules i could get my learners in September only…. but under new rules i could go in July then…. is that right?

  • russell

    can you test drive a car when you are on your p’s in queensland

  • Joel

    hey im born on Jan 1st and will be 16 and a half on july first, do i come under the new or old law. Can i get my learners on July 1st and have them for 6 months or start at 16 and have them for 12 months and get my p’s at 17.

  • Blak-Z

    these new laws are absolute bullshit does the queensland government actually think this is going to help keep the road fatalitys down its not going to stop young drivers driving at night and talking on phones

  • BUBBLES

    i am 22 have my learners i can go get my p’s in november and am due to have a second child soon ….how on earth am i ment to take my children to and from docters, daycare and all over normal daily routine visits when these restriction will be put in place? im sure that there are many people out there in the same situation as myself.. thanks to all the hoons and so called invincables on the road i am unabloe to carry out my everyday tasks without haveing to fork out for taxis. what is the point to owning any vehicle v8 or not if u have so many restrictions???? what a waste of money and time. I SAY FIX THE ROAD CONDITIONS AND MAKE IT HARDER TO GET YOUR LICENCE. AND TO THE GOVERNMENT – UR WAGES ARE PAYED BY US LOW INCOME EARNERS THAT NEED TRANSPORT TO GET AROUND NOT A CHAUFFER! GET A GRIP AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT ROAD CONDITIONS AND START WORRYING ABOUT WHO U MAY BE GIVING A LICENCE TO!

  • kazza

    i get my learners MAY next year and my p’s in november next year.. do i have to have my learners FOR 1 F*****G YEAR!?!?!.
    or is that only for people who get their learners AFTER these bullshit rules come into effect.
    someone hit me back with an answer.

  • Stacy.

    hey i’m a little lost i turn 16 in january 22 nxt year so do these rules apply so me as well..?

  • pissed

    who the fuck decided on these rules they are so restrictive who cares if we drive high power cars cause the cops will just chase us they will be too lazy to do that FUCKING PIGS DIE DIE DIE!!!

  • giles

    you guys are fucking retarded

    if you have your p’s before july next year then you will have none of the new restrictions

    if you have your learners before july next year you will have none of the new restrictions for learners, but will have them for p’s.

  • JaCkO

    hey every1. atm i have 4 months till i get my learners. WOOHOO!!! anyway, i dont even need it hey. i just get lifts with my mates from school. but anyway, will those P1-P2 peices of shit apply to me?

  • http://www.caradvice.com.au/722/queensland-driver-license-new-rules-curfews-and-12-month-learners/ JD

    Hey Jacko….. Thats gr8 yours getting your L’s Soon! But yeah you will be affected with the new rules! Dont Worry about it ..Because your age group will have the same affect! So there is no competition….. Remember its a good thing!

    I’ll put this into simple words…
    If your on your L’s going to your P’s before July 2007
    YOU ARE NOT AFFECTED

    If your get your L’s and going for your P’s after July 2007
    THEN YOU ARE AFFECTED!

    I hope that helps… I know this sucks but there isn’t much you can do!!

    Peace Out!

    Jd

  • JaCkO

    thanks JD. and yes, that does suck! haha,

  • Emma

    hey,

    so im 16 on july 5th so that means i affected hey? what bullhit rules!!

  • JaCkO

    sup emma,

    yeah i would sorry mate. u should of been born earlier. lol just kidding.

    catchya later

  • Emily

    You understand the new late night rules totally throw designated drivers out the window?

  • JaCkO

    good point emily. thats gonna screw everything up hey! i never thort of that.

    laters JaCkO

  • giles

    i’m just finishing gr12 and went to plenty of parties and the designated driver thing never really happend, it is a good tool for argueing against the new rules however.

    what worries me most about the driver restrictions is that it’s a blanket under21 thing, not just 16-21 or whatever so it fucks over young parents.

    least i’m not effected at all, haaaaa

  • Dave

    In reply to Emily on the designated driver issue – most of this is aimed at new first drivers – ie, someone getting their licence at the age of 17 and being on the P1 passenger restriction for the first 12 months, or in other words until you turn 18.

    And of course, you would not be going to a licenced premisis or have other 17 yo friends that were drinking to be put in the position of designated driver while you are 17 will you :)

  • Emily

    Just so you know im fighting this becasue 20 days after this new law shit comes in in turn 16 and 6 months so im just as stuffed as you all. SO Dave i will end up being 18 and 6 months before im on P2 SO THERE!

  • Michael

    i think that some of these new rules r just absolutely stupid like as comment 10 has said HOW THE HELL R THEY GoING TO ENFORCE AND GOVERN THE BLUE TOOTH STUFF AS IT CAN B DONE BY VOICE NOW (well i know my phone can not sure bout some of the others)plus if ther putting restrictions on phones y not radios and cb’s ther just as bad!!!

    and this power restriction rule as i was going to b a trady but saw the rules that r enforced in NSW and well i culdnt b one, and i didnt overlly enjoy going around in ppls sewers, like sreiously i think they wer using the toilet at the time we wer trying to unclog it.

    some of the new rules r good but most of them i just sat ther and fuking laughed at!!! i like the log book idea of 100hrs as nsw has a 50hr log book. but if learner learns to drive in a v8 wen they get ther p’s they shuld b able to drive a fuken v8 as they wuld already know how to drive one its only if ther driving pussy as 4cylinders that they wuldnt know how to handle the extra power and most of the time rear wheel drive.

    its just totally stupid i mean like come on its a good thing that your thinking about doing these types of things but comeone make them realistic or youths will just fuking break them any way

  • Sarah

    To be completely honest- ive had to many friends in car accidents, due to stupid little things.

    I think these are worth enforcing because face it, somepeople are just UNCO- – - – mobile phones are the worst!!

    Although i struggle to find the solution to enforcing these rules to the full extent of the law, the Bluetooth and other mobile device restrictions are a good start.

    To save a friends life, this is a small price to pay.

  • Emily

    Im going to shed light on all you kids who turn 16 and 6 months between july 1 and december 31.
    because it pissed me off that i couldnt get my p’s until 17 and 6 months.
    there is a crossover.
    YES THERE IS.
    this is an email sent to ME.
    not to one of my friends/neighbour/goverment person.
    ME.

    Will a person who turns 16 ½ years
    between 1 July 2007 and 31 December
    2007 be disadvantaged by the new
    rules?

    Anyone turning 16 ½ yrs between 1 July
    2007 and 31 December 2007 will be able
    to apply to get their provisional driving
    licence( MEANING YOUR P’S TO STUPID PEOPL) provided they;
    X) have held their learners permit for at
    least 6 months
    X) have gained 100 hours supervised
    driving experience or equivalent
    X) are 17 years of age
    X) have passed a practical driving test

    Should you require any further information, please contact Queensland
    Transport on telephone 13 23 80 between 8am and 5pm, Monday to Friday

    YAY FOR US YOUNGINS!!

    See
    Because I’m nice
    and that made my day
    I hope it makes yours

  • Ashman

    Just posting, with these new passenger restrictions of carrying only one passenger under 21.. this will just get more young people on the road driving around cause they can’t go in the car with there friend, and hence cause more accidents, nice work there Qld Gov *big thumbs up*

    as well as causing more accidents.. this is gonna damage the environment more.. more cars means more emissions.. guess they didn’t really think this thru too well.. although the rules are there for a reason, to protect us.

    I think i’m lucky enough to miss out on this law, as i’m going for my driving test in the next month.. so i think i may miss out on these laws, but i think this is all a bit unfair for those people who already have awesome V8 cars or supercharged cars.. they shouldn’t have to sell them, haha.. i only own a lil shitty festiva.. so i don’t have that issue =P unless u class that as a sports car haahahhaha..

    Ash

  • giles

    Dave,
    Drinking at a private residence when you are under 18 is entirely legal and commonplace..
    Designated Drivers are needed most for those under 18 because high school parties and 18th’s (where there is still alot of under age people) arn’t centrally located and near regular all-night public transport.
    Most nightclubs and big pubs are in the Fortitude Valley or City and thus designated drivers are unnecessary for most people who are over 18.

  • Mark

    Hey emily, that really makes alot of sense seens as though i fit into that 6 month bracket.. thanks

  • Duran

    The new rules should be from 1 January 2007!!!

  • james

    just because a few stupid teenagers crashed their car and some died they have 2 punish every1 els? these new laws suck!!!

  • http://www.caradvice.com.au Joel Bryant

    High iam 15 and born on the 22 of february 1991 and would be getting my l plates in january 2007 but with the new laws i can’t get it until july just because the government is taking so long to bring the new laws in and i am goin to get a WRX STI regardless of the law

  • http://caradvice.com simon

    i get my p’s in may 2007 scince i have my p’s how long do i have to have my p1 till i have to get my p2

  • brock philp

    I am gettin a mitsbishi magna with a 3.5 litre engine with a top speed of about 240KMS an hour so wat is the point of the car regulations

  • http://www.alborzfallah.com alborz

    The point is that your Magna can’t get from 0-100 in anything less than 8-9 seconds whilst the performance cars can, besides, your Magna’s speedo goes up to 240, it doesnt mean the car will actually be in one piece at that speed :)

  • brock philp

    ay joel me u flash carrs fuck the goverments stupid laws

  • brock philp

    well alborz its has alredy been done and its still in one peice ya know it all

  • http://www.caradvice.com.au Joel Bryant

    i can think of at least ten standard six cylinder cars that will do over 240kmh, so banning turbos and v8′s isn’t goin to stop shit

  • http://www.alborzfallah.com alborz

    Heh, well thats good Brock, I guess,
    but the point is that sport cars will make younger drives feel safer to speed thinking they can better handle the speed (which is actually true) but hence the bs reasons to ban turbo/v8/supercharged cars.

  • http://www.alborzfallah.com alborz

    As for Joels comment about getting an STi.. I have to say thats a little excessive for a 15 year old! As a WRX driver, the power that you get is hard to control, an STi will be insane specially if you haven’t driven much.

  • http://www.caradvice.com.au Joel Bryant

    do u have a wrx sti alboring or are u just talkin shit

  • http://www.alborzfallah.com alborz

    I dont have an STi. I have a WRX.

  • http://www.caradvice.com.au Joel Bryant

    do u have an msn addy alborz because this site is for comments not conversations

  • http://www.alborzfallah.com alborz

    I drove a 98 model 3.5 Litre magna for a few years Brock, it was an alright car, but I was far to scared to take it to those speeds. Felt very unstable at high speeds.

  • brock philp

    did u have low profile tyers

  • Tom

    I think these laws are bullshit in qld but i live in nsw , sydney and we already have the system of P1 and P2 im getting my P’s in may 2007 so the laws wont apply to me on my red P’s but are the laws going to apply in nsw to or is it just qld and once i get my red P’s and go for my green P’s in 2008 will the new laws apply to me

  • Tom

    SUCKED IN QLDER’S I LIVE IN NSW

  • Sam

    im 17 and i can’t yet get my licence because i’m epileptic. yeah, the laws will effect me. but even so, what the hell?? everyone has raised really good point, except for the one above mine. lol. what you should all do is bring it up with queensland transport . we have 142 complaints. how will they not listen? besides, they say that only ppl under 25 drive crazy? i’ve seen more ppl over 25 driving like hoons. by the looks of things, they are trying to stop us from driving all together. all of u are completely right. these new laws are ridiculous and way too strict

  • http://www.caradvice.com.au Joel

    Queensland should stop trying to better nsw with everything they do and leave the laws as they were

  • bob

    i agree joel. queensland always has to follow other states. its annoying. these laws are uterly rediculous! theres going to be so many young ppl with records for breaking the law on the road. what if this effects getting jobs? will there be a raise in unemployment?

    queensland gov should re think theese rules.

  • http://www.caradvice.com.au Joel

    yeah people that have kept themselves record free for 17 years will have records because of these laws, they are way too strict for anyone to follow

  • joel

    i think all the new laws coming in are gay… i dont think the young people are the problem… how many accidents do you see on the side of the road and how many of them do you see making the papers and the news? they only show the ones that they want to show cause of all the “hooning”.. i just think its a load of bull shit, if they where to bring in any tough new laws they should be making people over 70 to take the driving test again, they are a menace!! if they where serious about this crap maybe they should make it compolsary (cant spell) to do a defence driving course and the government pay for it… im a 21 year old car nutter i drive a nissan skyline and ive never had an accident or even come close to one… (touch wood)

  • D.T

    Emily, does that mean that wen i turn 16 1/2 in september next year, these rules dont apply to me?

  • Charlie

    i think that if the government wants to bring in these rules then they should, they aren’t trying to disadvantage people, these rules had to be brought in at some time and now is just when its happening.

    personally i dont think that its the youths fault that we dont know how to drive as safely as those of a older age. when it comes down to it the testing that we go through isn’t that severe. we have one writen test and then we are able to get behind the wheel and then we have one prac test and we are considered to be able to drive.

    i am not saying that they should make the testing harder but it shouldn’t be writen all over the net on how to do it, we should only be given the booklets telling us about all the information and road rules, but thats it.

    also i find it ridiculus that stores dont have the booklets in stock, for the past three weeks i have tried to purchase one from mulitple stores and all of them say that they have just run out, what bullshit, order more! if they want us to learn the rules then make the information more available to us!

  • http://www.caradvice.com.au joel

    my parents own an XR8 and I am keen to drive it When I get my license am I allowed to take it for a spin?
    If someone knows the answer then please email me my address is fishingandbeer@hotmail.com

  • Nathan

    I say good on queensland transport and the police. it’s about time they got out and did something right for a change. people who hold a privisional license think they know everything about driving and then get out there in their turbo charged cars and crash them or kill someone. I say the rules are the best thing they have done in a while but the only thing is whether or not the police are actually going to follow up on the laws and get stricter. it’s no good having strict laws and then going soft on the drivers.

  • joel. s

    you ever had an accident Nathan??

  • Kitty

    Well, So far I’m only 18, and been in 2 accidents…neither of which were caused by under 25s. Asides, having killed the designated-driver scheme by introducing passenger rules will undoubtedly damage more young people than it saves. This won’t be going down well with the parental generation either, as they won’t want to pick up ppl in the early morning and won’t want their children stranded, especially given the lack of public transport. In the end, I guess I’ll just have to shack up with older men so they can actually drive me and my mates.

  • Josh

    I can get my learners in January and my p’s hopefully in july, does that mean i fall under these new laws. because that would really suck for schoolies next year. someone please tell me. all my friends are saying different shit, if you know if i fall under these new laws, please tell me! josh.

  • Chien

    although i might get my driver’s before that time, i still sympathise with all of you. what about trying to get a campaign happening in queensland, where all youth rise up and protest the ridiculous changes affecting us? we could try do something at the start of next year…

    one hundred hours with a driving school… it costs more than an around-the-world-trip ($4000-5000), for crying out loud! it’s robbery.

  • Andrew

    ive read somewhere that one hour of instructor lessons counts for 3 hours out of the 100. Also I’ve heard something about the laws being brought forward because of the recent crashes up the sunshine coast, has anyone else heard this?

  • tom p

    these new rules are sick im going to be driving sooner

  • Andrew

    the new rules are only good for those born in 1991 or later and don’t care about getting their bike licence for another year and a half

  • Andrew

    and dont care about driving powerful cars

  • tom p

    i cant wait to july so i get my learners it would suck to be born in january,febuary,march and april

  • barto

    these rules are really going to piss of the youth…they are completely stupid … its fuck wits being idiots in there cars and ruining it for everyone i think the police need to look at individuals not by targetting the whole entire youth…..some of these rules are just plain fucken rediculous…yeah its easy enough to set these rules but all its going to cause is trouble and its not affecting you…its making it harder for people to get there license…the rules are fine at the moment just leave them how they are …

  • barto

    go ahead piss of the youths.. youll regret it when street crime goes up…WANKERS

    p.s i hate government and these new fucked up rules !
    : )

  • Wha

    Oh boo hoo, you’ll have to wait a WHOLE year to get your P’s. Victoria had 2 years and it’s not a problem. You shouldn’t be driving at 17 anyway. Just be GLAD it’s not 2 years.

    The longer the period, the more opportunities you get to practise. Also, in Vic, “High powered vehicles” is classed as 125kW per 1000kg.

  • Nikki

    so designated driving will be a thing of the past. there will be drunk 18-24 year olds all over the shop clogging up the public transport systems, hospitals (which are already screwed up in Qld) and gaols.
    yup. curfew and limited passengers are great ideas.

  • joel

    eat shit fuckers im 21 and on my opens and drive a bombed skyline MUWHAHAHAHAHAHA have fun in ya fullie sick suzuki swift

  • Leann

    As a parent of four. My two teenage boys are on their learners and go for their P’s on Friday, I am for the new laws. My son’s friends have had their P’s for some time. A couple have lost the licence for speeding, a couple have lost it for drink driving and there have been several other incidents. The ones that lost it for drink driving had mates in the car with them and did not see the danger. The ones that lost them for speeding think it’s funny. Driving for six months does not give you the experience or knowledge to drive fast.

    While you’re a learner you have someone reminding you of the speed, distance of the car in front etc…. When some teens get their P’s it’s like all logic and responsibility goes out the window, especially with mates in the car.

    If I had my way I would also make a defensive driving course a pre-requisite of getting your P’s.

  • wayne

    These laws mean a single parent on P’s with two or more children under the age of 25 (pick any example say: twins at 2Yrs) can only drive with one child in the car between the hours of 11PM and 5AM.

    What if circumstances require them to leave home between these hours?? do they leave the other child/children at home by themselves???????.

  • luke

    hey im turning 16 on the 30th of december so i would go for my l’s on 30th of june which leaves me one chance to get my ls before the news laws come in…that didnt bother me much at first because id just have to make sure i got them first go, but 30th of june is on a saturday and qld transport doesnt open then so id have to go for my ls on 1st of july…does this mean i now have to hold my l’s for a year just coz the lazy bartards dont wanna open on saturdays??????

  • bek

    these new laws are soo stupid they are just going to piss everyone off and kids are just going to not listen and break these laws pissing them off evan more… come on be why make a car with all those seats and not aloud to use them .. wot if there is am emergency and u need to drive people home late at night or u just have to take somone home coz they are unable to coz they were drinkin or somthing but u no if u dont wont to break the law u just leave them there.. to break the law themselves or kill themselves … yer thats real safe

  • bek

    these new laws are soo stupid they are just going to piss everyone off and kids are just going to not listen and break these laws pissing them off evan more… come on be why make a car with all those seats and not aloud to use them .. wot if there is am emergency and u need to drive people home late at night or u just have to take somone home coz they are unable to coz they were drinkin or somthing but u no if u dont wont to break the law u just leave them there.. to break the law themselves or kill themselves … yer thats real safe

  • shauna

    omg this is sooo stupid hahaha everyone is going to get pissed off and rebel and the government is going to be fucked the future generation of today is gunna be pissed so ur just creating a bad future 4 us all … yer the laws are fucking great haha yer u see ur creating more problems

  • justy

    because i can go for my liscence in march i dont have to abide by these laws ???
    cause my vn commodore has a supercharger and i aint taking it of for enyone

  • http://caradvice.com.au joel

    They should inforce victoria’s rule of 125kw per 1000kg’s because alot of standard six cylinder cars are over this and some old fucking v8′s are way under this so for fuck sake open your fucking eyes QLD Police

  • Jerom

    Look these laws are goona back fire eventually , the hard our government pushes to control and be in power the more opposing force grows, and eventually there system will fail and the next generation will destroy the traditionist thinking and adapt a more liberal system like they have in european country’s. The truth is that to the government our voices are nothing but words in the wind and we won’t effect them.So what i am saying is don’t compliy and conform play there system but study the new system so that we can get around it and still do what we want without getting arrested or losing our liecnese that we have all worked so hard to get.

  • luke

    hey everyones getting cut at the police, well they dont actually make the rules they are just their to enforce them, so if u wanna get angry at someone get angry at peter beatie coz hes the guy behind all this.

  • Cut at these stupid rules

    this is so incredibly crap surely we deserve a chance!! At 16 most of us r responsible so y shuld we hav 2 suffer luckily im born in january so these rules shouldnt effect me but its still crap!!!!

  • Big mac

    hmmmm u guy’s need to lighten up a lil… these laws might not even pass.. it all depends on votes.

    and for the cops cmon give them a break they are just doing there job… u need to work to get paid…

    i don’t care cause i miss these rules by 4 months but still i feel sorry for the poeple who have the new rules…

    there is no real point having a fast car to having a slow car if u drive a V8 or what ever u will be more prone to getting pulled over…

    i have a shitty mazda 323 and its fine…

    if u want to go fast and die by all means.. y do u think these rules are coming in.. cause dickheads like u people saying fuk the cops and all that get fast cars and don’t know how to drive them and crash..

    and if there are people in the car well looks like they r fuked.. think bout it… u crash and kill people in your car cause u are being a dickhead well guess what.. u get put for mansloughter.. now i don’t think anyone wants to go to jail..

    i have said what i want. thnx

  • Missy on da coner

    hey,

    i hav read though most of the osts on this site and want to kno something? i am estatic that on my SIXTEENTH birthday i can go for my licence. I dont care when i get my P’s i just want to drive. Heck can’t people see that u actually get to drive earlier, lik that is a GOOD thing. If people die the government needs to do something. QLD is a team and a team needs to pull together sometimes and help out for the greater good. My first car accident was a middle aged speeder in a 4WD T boning my brother and I. So i am not saying that young people are at fault at all. People are going to drive irrepsonsibality no matter their race, sex, age, religion etc.. so really cant we all just party that we get to drive earlier and with the new 100 hr log book things, this means our parents HAV to take us out so i kno that i will b using that. Drive safe cos the safer we are the better it gets. Stupid people make us have stupid laws so everyone lets shot the stupid people shall we?

    Missy on da corner

  • kris

    you’s all can get FUCKED im geting a V8 droped into my holden VS with a superchager bolted on and i’ll leave the v6 decals on and your all just a bunch of fuckheads with imports there shit
    ive been with the big block V8′s since i was 3 so i’v loved the sound of them im just guna get a V8 and rip a burnout in the cop station
    and i’ll say it again GET FUCKED WITH YOUR RULES

  • beans

    A lot of you young fools only serve to demonstrate why we need tighter licencing rules in Queensland. Yeah v8′s are great, but far too much power for some young idiot without real driving experience. Kris, you are a prime example of a young dickhead, the sooner you do a burnout outside the police station and have your car confiscated the better for all. You’re attitude and that of other similar peabrained idiots is why no young person should be allowed behind the wheel of anything other than a lada niva.

  • http://www.caradvice.com.au/722/queensland-driver-license-new-rules-curfews-and-12-month-learners/#comment-4409 ross

    Hi! Look i turn 16 on March 24th 2007 so do these new rules apply when i turn 16 or on july 1st or do i only have my p’s for 6 months. Thanks

  • Yuri Weinlich

    Hi there i was just wondering:

    1. I turn 16 on June 23rd, does that mean i have to wait until im 16 and a half to get my learners and still have them for a year or do i just get them on July 1st and have them for a year?

    2. I get my P’s after July 1st so does that mean im not allowed to drive a v6 on the road?

    3.What are the night cerfews? Meaning passengers?

    Thanks very much.

  • Yuri Weinlich

    Please reply to my email at : dcshoecousa01@hotmail.com with the subject as ROAD RULES. Thank you.

  • Lucas G

    I think these new laws are insainly stupid. I was looking foward to driving my classic with a 351 v8 in it when i get my p’s, but now in with these new laws arent able to. I think the people who make these rules and restrictments havent got a brain in their head, they dont put any real thought put towards them as many four and six cylinder cars are able to take of alot quicker than eight cylinders it’s interesting when most crashes of the younger generation are in six cylinders so how the hell do u explain that. The only understandable rule is the mobile phone rule. Restricting passenger loads at night will only end with many young people driving under the influence, so the promotions of designated drivers was an waste of my and others tax money. So for next time you create new laws put some more thought within it before someone else like me has there pride and joy of a car they have built destroyed not really for the performance but pride, joy and centermentle value. Relize that its not only the high performancr cars but other cars aswell. Put more thought within it please because i am not able to drive the car i have worked for the last 3 years. Why should we pay for those who stuff it for evertone else.

  • Sarah

    It might just be the fact that I’m on an open licence talking here, but I think these rules might be an okay idea. I mean, it all sounds as complicated as hell, but each rule essentially makes sense. In the light of the three young people killed in Buderim a month ago, I think the changes are very important and timely. What is the attraction of a suped up car? I drive a slow little lawnmower and I have no problems getting around. I can meet all speed limits and in fact, in the folly of youth, I got two speeding tickets and rolled my car. I thought I was the best thing out, that I knew what I was doing and I’m a mature, sensible, patient young person, so I can hardly imagine what a wild person of 18 would get up to.

    It’s experience. I was a bit shocked to go driving with a couple of learners recently just to notice the confidence with which they made mistakes. They just could not see their impatience and their error. One has since attained her P’s. I could remember my own mother telling me off for the same things and my biting back that I knew what I was doing. I wish I’d known how vulnerable I really was in my first car. I took a corner too hard with sun in my eyes and flipped into a ditch. Crawling out of an upside down car unhurt teaches you a couple of things.

    So look. Think about how vulnerable you were when you were learning to walk before you slag off a set of rules which really only seek to protect you and the other people on the road (people who are going about their business trusting that you’re not going to endanger their lives).

  • clinton

    i love these new rules… even tho i will fall under it… kids these days need rules and i think it will help a lot of people from dying on these roads…. dont u agree with me alborz?????? fuck all u people who disagree with it u poor people who hav a v8…. go get a life or new job cuz when this law comes in, ur cars are gona b worth SHIT ALL…… so shut up n grow up….FUCK n stop complaning NO ONE FUCKIN CARES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://www.caradvice.com.au Joel

    i agree with you clinton y don’t we all just get pink hyundai excels and drive down to the fucking mardi gra

  • miss M.

    I think some stright out information should be given out about this new regulation you guys are throwing on us. I’ve been looking for information something like this for 2 hours and this is all that has come close. If your gunna enforce it don’t you think we should know all the details. Instead of asking all these questions.

  • Ali

    those are some of the stupidest rules i’ve heard, i’m able to go for my learners eight days after these laws come in, so i’ll have to wait six more months to get my licence, talk about getting screwed over. i really can’t see how 12 months as a learner can help, and the no high powered cars ruling is absolutly stupid, i mean it can’t be inforced without bias and it means that a whole range of perfectly reasonable cars are now off limits to new drivers.

  • john

    I have a question i am a young man with a family. How do i take my partner and our children in car all together? I am a responsible driver now but have been stupid in the past. My family shouldnt have to get two cars to visit our parents and drive back home late at night. Cant afford that and pollution and traffic are bad enough now as it is. What do we have to take a cab that will cost a fortune every time and cant afford it. Or take little kids on public transport late at night with the drunks etc thats just as safe i guess NOT. What is the point to these rediculous laws. The government cant change the young people’s mind about driving on this by stupid laws idiots will be idiots until they realise themselves that is stupid to speed etc. Preach it by all means but you cant force to want to be responsible best i think you can do is teach and pray.

  • jarrod

    i get my learners in march. do the nemm rules appl to me?

  • Crap Rules ….. Crap Government

    these new laws r friggin bs… my bro owns a r33 gtst and i wanna take it from time to time. most high powered cars are actually more safe than these crappy bombs we have to get wen these new rules cum out. these high powered cars actually have better steering and brakin. every car has the potential to be tuned up. also everyone has a chance of dyin at any second. a plane cud crash into my house right now.

  • Shavo

    I read half that shit it sux, these rules are bad but just one Question which i beleave hasent been answerd. . .

    Sey i get 6 or 12 months rego on my car B4 1st july weather it b tha day B4 or a in june sumtime does that mean i can drive that car till tha rego runs out sence its in my name and theres no law no focing me not 2…?????

  • creweman

    wat gona happen with me like i turn 16 on may 24 2007 will i have to waight till i’m 17 to get my l’s or will i have to weight untill the new laws come in ?
    and my parent own a v6 comadore will i be able to drive it wile i’m on my l’s?

  • Shavo

    who cares what Creweman said

    aLL these 16 year old clowns asking these bad questions if they just think about it 4 10 seconds they would work it out … . .

    N im not gonna answer it use ya brains my Question is all in inportant one….

    like i asked and stated B4

    If i rego a car in my name B4 tha 1st july can i still drive it sence theze NEW laws dont even exsit yet let alone tha government hasnet made 2 much of in effort of informing the people of queensland . . .

    so if i rego a car B4 july 1st can i drive it . . .

    all if i all ready have it rego i should b albe 2 use it till tha rego runs out at least.. .

    I dont beleave tha police can tell me 2 abandon my car all da sudden or im in capable to drvie it lol . . .

    Any help would b use 4. . .

  • Yuri Weinlich

    I turn 16 on the 23rd June. Does that mean i can get my learners on the 1st of July? or do i have to wait until im 16 and a half?

    If i get them on the 1st of July or i have to wait until im 16 and a half, what rules will apply to me?

    Thanks.

  • Nicki

    Hey, i am 16 on the 4th of Jan,
    does that mean once july hits and the new laws are in place i can obtain my car learners lisence?
    and another thing,
    if i turn 16 on Jan 4th, can i obtain my RE bikes lisence before the law is enforced?

  • steph

    hey guys
    i know these laws are a bit hard but listen im a young driver and speaking from experience i almost lost a best friend, my sister, and my boyfriend in 2 car accidents, both from young peoples stupid driving. i know it seems harsh, but think about the consequences, a few stupid driving lessons, or someone you loves life….. to be honest it was my fault in the accident, i got my licence real easy, too easy, i had no clue how to drive properly, and i know it doesn’t apply to everyone some people are good drivers others are not… i think its not really about your level of good or bad driving, its your attitude towards driving and there are alot of uneducated young drivers who don’t know the full reality hit of the responsibility of driving. i know cos i got the lectures and so on and it still didn’t get through and i admit i should have had a lot more training…. the consequences are far worse… so before going off about all these harsh laws and so on, stop and think about the fact that maybe just maybe there is a purpose to them. Its not that all young drivers cause accidents and it happens to everyone, its just the fact that it can happen to anyone…

  • Sair

    OMG….. i cant believe these knew rules. What if u get ur license before July 1st 2007. Do u still have to follow the knew silly laws?????

  • http://www.caradvice.com.au/722/queensland-driver-license-new-rules-curfews-and-12-month-learners/ Dane

    hay i was just wondering i am born on 8th of january 1991 wich makes me 15 as yet. I turn 16 soon so on the 13th of january can i go for my learners?? i work full time so i cant try on 8th of january can i i finish work at 4:15pm 8th is on monday. and if i get my learners before 1st of july do i follow by these new laws? if u have answer plz email me at Akuma_na_tata@hotmail

  • RanDomMmmm

    Bloddy hell…….. this is fukn BS…. i dun have 4000 buks just to drive around for 100 hrs.. i have betta things to do with that money…. nd bout supercharged cars…. i wantd and 180sx tuned but now their ruined … i have to live with shit boxes of cars that have nothn unique bout them…. all the stock shit from them gay manufactures. i realy hope the gov get their act together and read all this….. cos all de people are just pissed of like me.. i know far too many people who are on my side and not half of the people are already drivin. they just rekn it ruins their lives or kids who are large car enthusiasts and have spend or saved their money to get a decent car that they love to drive. but now its just become a livin hell to live through baby shits to learn how to drive. smoe1 should assasinate the howard dude.. its just so gay to live like this..

    i always thought that the gov is tryin to save the planet nd they are askn us to frive 100 hrs for nothn. gr8.. its a lot of pollution their maken to the world.. theres like a few million people gonna e drivn around and i think the world might just blow up just when they get heir opens…

    thier should be a big band of people to debate this agin cos the person who acutally made all thse rules up should be hanged and tortured… i realy doubt this will change the teenagers driving but just make it worse.

    thats my say.. FUKN JOHNNY HOWARD ASSSSSSSSSSSSSS

  • Shavo

    is anyOne out there gonna stop complaning and answer this inportant question 4FUCKSAKE LoL,

    I no theres some smart people out there so hopfully i dont get no 16 year old crying about tha new laws or asking about what all ready been anwserd LoL

    anyway

    I can go 4 my driving test a few weeeks B4 july the 1st :) and on top of that i woz wondering if i get a car with rego sey a V8 . . . does that mean i can drive it till my rego runs out i mean its not like tha government hav made every citizen know about these new laws and on top of that theres nothink really stopping me from doin it. .. .

    so it comes down to this if i do all that b4 july first 1st should i b ok .. sence its not done afta these new laws come in , Thanks for anyOne out there with sum heLp. . .

  • http://www.caradvice.com.au/722/queensland-driver-license-new-rules-curfews-and-12-month-learners/ Dane

    shavo stfu

  • Emily

    ok so some people cant read.

    if you turn 16 BEFORE july 1 or turn 16 and 6 months between july 1 and december 31.
    YOU CAN GET YOUR LEARNERS ON JULY 1.
    YOU ONLY NEED TO HAVE THEM UNTIL YOU ARE 17.
    which may be 6 months it may be 8 it may be 10 but keep in mind you are getting it earlier than you normally would if you were under the old rules.

    yes you are under the new rules
    yes they are shit
    they are in place so you dont kill others.
    yes i sound like an ass kiss but im just glad i can drive before im 25. because we all know thats next.

    if you turn 16 and 6 months BEFORE july 1.
    lucky you you still have to follow the P1 and P2 crap.

    so if your birthday next year is between january 1 and june 30.
    congratulations you get your learners on july 1.

    stop panicking

    D.T you asked me if these rules apply yes sorry they do. sucks to be us

  • Yuri Weinlich

    Hi there. So i turn 16 on the 23rd of june. So i can get my learners on the 1st of July is that right? And does that mean im not allowed to drive a v6? Like a standard commodore or something? Thanks.

  • D.T

    i rang up queensland transport the other day and they sed that there is a chance that the new laws may not come in at all. they are still in the process in of thinkin about it so all those ppl hu are against these new laws, keep on writin in and hopefully the government can see how pissed off we are.

    we cant drive high powered cars until we’re 25. thats bs. once i turn 25 im gonna speed for sure. u may stop us from having our fun for 8 more years but ur not gonna stop us for eva. any car can go ova atleast 120 km/h so stopin us from driving high powered cars wont stop us from speedin, itll make us wanna speed to get the same feelin as wat u wud get from acceleratin to the speed limit in a high powered car.

  • Alan…

    Hey guys, just wondering…i turn 16 on the 30th of june, will this mean i cop all the bullshit laws…and if so when will i be allowed turbo/superchargers/v8s???

  • matt

    does the qld government have a drip of fucking cocaine into their vein.
    fucking headcases.
    i got my p’s 6 months ago,and was given a bmw m5 on my learners, way before any laws had come out relating to restrictions on high powered vehichles.

    how the fuck can they stop me driving a car that i own, when they didn’t give me adequate notice on the car i’m supposed to drive.

    last time i checked, a 2006 m5 is worth around $200,000 and if i have to sell it, there isn’t any replacement cars worth that much. what the fuck do they want me to drive… a queerass suzuki swift?

    even if i did sell it and downgrade to a cheaper car, what the fuck do i want with the excess money, not sounding rude or anything, but i don’t want the extra money, it’s not like i want to have two cars, or invest my money in shares or a business. while i’m young i want to enjoy it.

    if qld transport wants to enforce these new laws, they should be expecting a large class action suit… because since me amongst most of my friends drive high powered cars and enjoy them, we won’t give them up without a fight.

    since i don’t want to sell my car, and neither do many car enthusiasts, the qld government should have to buy every single person under 25 owning a high powered vehicle, a car that fits within the regulations. it shouldn’t be my burden, i have a more than adequate mode of transportation available, why should i have to buy another one?

  • bridge

    if i can get me learners on like tha 14th of feb n tha new laws cum out on tha 1st of july do i ave to ave me learners for a year? cuz these new laws r horse shit!

  • bridge

    if i can get me learners on like tha 14th of feb n tha new laws cum out on tha 1st of july do i ave to ave me learners for a year? cuz these new laws r horse shit!

  • John Howard

    FUCK ALL YOUR MUMS, cuz this is bullshit to the max. WHY cant they keep the rules the same for another FUCKING year… your alll a bunch of TOSSERS… especially the DONKEY SHIT EATING ASS RAPER who made created these bum fucking rules

  • Emma

    Hey question………
    I can get my learners in Feb because i will be 16 and 6 months but i was wondering if those new learners rules will apply to me and same goes for the provisional rules. Anyone who can shed some light for me…please do.

    Cheers

  • Emma

    here everyone…….just found this and it helps clear everything up.

  • 300zx TT

    How About these new laws can get fucked,Cause im buying my 300zx Twin Turbo and these fucks cant stop me. So instead of Blameing High Powered cars for the death tolls, maybe you should look at how many of the cars that youngsters die in are your ” High powered Vehicles” cause all i seen is Teens loosing control of there shit box cars and crashing into Polls.

    I say If these new laws get into place there should be a Protest or Street cruise in our “Illegal Cars” against this Bullshit or at least a Partition.

  • stef

    im turning 16 on the 12th of jan. so ill be 16 and a half in june. so wouldnt i go through on the old laws getting my learners before the new laws come in??
    these laws arent properly explained.

  • dan

    ok i got an idea for everyone……hmmmmm get over it il havta follow these rules to who gives a shit rules r there to be broken muahahahah
    cya on the streets ppls grrrrr

  • Danielle

    I think these rules are excellent.. Altho there are a few things that will need too be fixed. I agree with the whole ppl with shit boxes are the ones that do the speeding and just a public retard…. But the ones in the Modified cars are the ones that think they can out run the police, or race friends on the streets with other mates in the car, and puts Innocent people at risk.

    Young Drivers will have too comply with the new rules or they will have to face the consequences. Im 21 and i have had my open’s for a yr, so these rules dont affect me. I dont feel sorry for the young drivers of today.. i am happy for them that the government is protecting them…

    But all these rules are becuase of people my age now.. and it does suck that i have too drive with these fuckheads on the road…

  • http://www.caradvice.com.au Joel

    hi danielle have u been over 40 fucken kmh b4 hahahahaha

  • brett

    hey i get my learners in march 2007 and get my P’s in september 2007 so what happends to me. Do i have my learners for 6 months or 12 months and am i able to drive my turbo car that i already bought and registered

  • hayle

    hey im 16 in march and cant get my l’s till sept so does that mean that i cant get my p’s till im 17 and 6 months??

  • + Yurza +

    These new rules can go suck my ass hole!

  • Matt

    so, if ive alwready had my P’s for 8 months or whatever.. im restricted to driving a new turbo’d car? or does that only apply to new lisence holders? its rediculous how they expect everyone with a car with a turbo in it to give up their car and buy a new shitbox, which chances are will get us into a more likely situation of crashing becuase the cars fucking wheel falls off or something. Also i work in a car dealership and half the cars i have to drive there have turbo’s or superchargers.. im not allowed to drive them anymore? wtf happens to my job?

  • DANIEL

    i rekon these rules are stupid i wont to have a high powered car and y should they make people sell there fast cars if they alredy have there p’s it should be u have to have ya p plates for 6months then u can drive wot ever u wont that would be kool cause that means kids will get there car and make it faster and faster until they can drive it then they will die that is not kool or they will just get motorbikes and make them off tap i am ganna get a turboed moto and make it off tap then they wont even catch me lol haha

  • old fart

    My son and I have been working on a rx7 series 2 for 2 years.He does’nt get his licence till after this bullshit happens.So now after all that work he can not drive it.{suposedly rotary engined cars ar’ent alloud, yet two of my older relations are a danger on the road, and one tows a c/van.Forr gods sake test these old farts and leave capable young people alone.

  • ben

    so whats happenig are p platers or l drivers allowed turbo,v8,supercharged vichels?

  • Dean

    Oh well.

    Means that turbo, supercharged and V8 powered vehicles will be cheaper for us fully licenced drivers, due to the lower demand :D

    Hooray!

  • Mel

    100 hours for learner drivers?
    With fuel prices going up and government adding a specific amount of hours to be undertaken, for some people it will be very costly.

    Why introduce the law in mid year? It only makes it more confusing.
    Why not at the start of the year.

    I’m 16 in april and I have been looking forward on getting my license nearly my whole teenage life.
    Now knowing I will be getting it later than expected makes me and just about every other teenager really up set.
    Don’t just read what we quote, Take it in, and try to work something better for us out.

  • Rita

    I believe, that the teenagers in the city are exrtemely inexperienced, compared to the teenagers growing up in the country. These horrific accidents occcuring to teenagers usually have been city KIDS. however teenagers in the country have got so much experience from such an early age that these accidents NEVER happen.

    The city drivers think they can drive when they can’t and getting into accidents.
    Whilst us country farm people have been driving nearly our whole life and know the precautions and have to suffer terribly from this GAY rule!

    I agree with what Mel said, don’t just listen to our quotes, Take it in and try to work something better for us out.

  • chris loves rotors

    my birth date is 20/4/91
    so wen can i get my l’s
    wen do the new rules come in?? do i have to wait till july or can i get them on april or do i come under old rules????
    im realy confusused can some one help me:S lol
    thanks guys

  • http://www.caradvice.com.au Joel

    chris u have to wait until july but u can go for u p’s when u are 17 i am born in february so it fucks me up too

  • Mel

    they cant give us freedom then take it away from us (for those who have their p’s prior to july ’07) the new laws are just unreasonable. V8′s i can understand, but curfews and passenger limits…??? if they cant police offences such as drink driving and speeding properly, how can they police the new laws? But really how many v8s do you see around town in comparison to to the road toll. its not the v8s – its the bimbos driving around who arent fit for the road. idiots can kill themselves and others in any car that works. Besides the qld gov should take a look at the tourist and oldies – both groups usually dont abide by the qld road rules. the victorians come up here and cant read our speed limits and sign posts. not to say our drivers are any better sometimes. My grandmother who recently moved to qld from england is a classic eg for the road rules – before changing her english licence to the qld licence she already had an accident(not fatal) because she didnt look for other cars when she was crossing an intersection.. and still didnt have to prove her understanding of the qld road rules (ie sitting the learners exam and passing) but no, the laws changed recently and she only recieved a small fine for careless driving- CRAZY! its the stuborn old timers who are the real hazards on the road.

    the government also recon driving and talking on mobile phones are another issue for p platers – honestly i do a fair bit of driving around and get annoyed when i see people driving on the same road as me whilst talking on their phones and its not the young people i see yappin away, infact its mothers with kids in the car ==> not only putting my life at risk, BUT HER OWN KIDS!!! and thats supposed to be our fault??(p platers)

    you want to know whatelse is unresonable – 100HOURS of driving lessons! 5 grand – most families cant afford that + fuel + another car for the up coming driver + rent / rates etc. where’s the sense?? are the driving schools going broke or something??… because that is unreasonable. i have seen people who went for regular driving lessons all the way through their 6 months still failed their test on the 1st plus times and still crap drivers. i had 6 lessons (6 hrs) with 2 months until my 6 month point, which my driving lesson instructor massively resented. even on my last lesson i was told i would fail because i needed more lessons and wasnt confident on the road – he stongly suggented i canceled my exam date he thought i was so crap! after he picking me to pieces infornt of me to my mum, knocked my confidence to titanic levels, with a week to go till my test, ignorantly, i practiced up with my mum doing all what i was taught in the lessons and passed 1st time round with only 2 noncriticals – we’re allowd 8. (my drive instructor marked about 16 noncriticals and 8 criticals in my practice test)
    the qld gov really needs to revise their alledged laws.

  • Samantha

    Alrite so there is some sense to the new laws, but bringing it in at the begining of the year would’ve been the right thing to do.
    SeaNo….how old are you, clearly you have no friends and are like an old fart who has nothing better to do. (clearly i dont but meh im bored)
    um wat about its like 3 in the mornin all my mates r drunk n hav no way home and ya cant leave them there …. but the new law says you can’t…ye rite im not gonna leave my friends there
    and i dont hav enuf money to pay for cabs n crap cz im busy saving for a dam car
    im pretty screwed by these new laws cz i cant find no loophole i can get thru
    ye my grandma says there gud will stop alot of hooligans and i agree with the mobile phone thing PULLOVER PEOPLE!! but the idiots are just goin to continue to do wat they want until the police target not age groups but just the people in general….more drink driving tests…more speed cameras…watever! just dont take it out on the young ones who hav to pay for other peoples mistakes
    there put their for our safety but by the way majority of us are pissed off there not gonna be safe for much longer

  • Samantha

    come july this yr there are gonna be god no how many leaners on the road…oh ye thats safe

  • cozza

    ZOMG goin for Ls today soooo wish me luck woohoo ,,, not saying Ls are cool in any way but HELL looking at the new laws

  • Simon

    seriosly, this is crap

  • Mel

    why dont all you kids whinging about the new laws cos theyre going to stuff you around getting your l’s and p’s sooner, just head over to the NT or WA and get your p’s 6 months before all your friends and come back to qld and get the licence changed over!

  • Luke

    hey i am just wandering i get my p’s in may do these rules apply to me at all. i want to b able to drive me vt commodore v6 will i still b able to drive it or will i have to sell it n get a lil shit 4 cylinder?

  • Sam

    Hey ppl.

    I’ve had my Ps for 7 months. i think some people have got the wrong idea from some of the introductions to the laws. if u get your Ps before July ’07, you will NOT be affected by the new laws. So, if u already have ur license, and are driving a powerful car, and get ur license before the new laws are introduced, u wont be affected, since u wont be going into a P1 and P2 system. So these people will not need to worry about selling their car.

    Overall though, i do believe the introduction of these laws is a good thing. I have plenty of mates that have had their licenses for the 6 month period, and have had 10 lessons in the last month with no prior driving experience. They have limited driving experience, and lack the skills to detect hazards and drive safely. This can only come through time spent driving. This makes the log book (combined with 12 months driving) a good idea, in my eyes. Keep in mind that it doesn’t need to be a professional instructor that needs to sign it, just as long as they have an open license.

    I have managed to drive a naturally aspirated 1600cc ford laser, pushing it to its limits, getting an awesome adrenaline rush. however, i couldn’t possibly trust myself in a car with any more than 100kw to the tonne. a car with that much power is simply not necessary. I am now driving a new honda civic that has a maximum speed of 200kph (never needs to be used at this speed) and gets from 0-100 in 10 seconds which, with very very little skill, is ample time to get onto any motorway. Powerful cars are not necessary for anyone.

    In regards to the regulation about the number of passengers between 11pm and 5am, i also do not believe it to be unfair, as u shouldn’t be out in clubs(underage), or driving drunk friends home(underage). if u do decide to drink, stay the night, get yourself home before 11, take one mate home, or catch a taxi.

    Despite my support for the introduction of these laws, i can see some clear flaws in the way they will be introduced. Firstly, i do not see it to be fair for people who have to hold their learners for 12 months, after they got it at 16.5 years of age, because they couldn’t get it sooner. I also consider it to be unfortunate for people who do not have a parent or guardian who can teach them to drive.

    I also wanna respond to what hayle and Mel said about getting their learners. u can both get your learners on 1st july 07, and then go for your red Ps on 1st July 08. this means waiting an additional 3 months to get your licenses. But, book months in advance, because there will be a huge surge of people wanting to go for their licenses on this date. The government is increasing their workload by not allowing u to obtain your learners at 16, 6 months before they change the laws. They will regret it.

    anyway, i’ve said enough on the issue. there is a major flaw in the introduction of the system, but it will make our roads safer.

    p.s. the fact sheet links at the bottom of this page can help u understand the new laws better.
    http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/youngdrivers

  • Sam

    i also want to add that, i have just read in a “Learners Fact Sheet” that some people will be given exemptions from the Log book if they do not have a close person who can assist them to obtain their license.

    For the first 10 driving lessons that u get with a professional, each hour will be worth 3. So 10 hours will be worth 30 in the log book.

    this may be helpful to u as well:

    What will happen to learner drivers who obtained
    their licence before 1 July 2007?

    Transitional arrangements will apply for learner
    drivers issued with a licence prior to this date. If a
    learner licence is renewed after 1 July 2007, the new
    rules will apply.
    It will not be necessary to complete a logbook if a
    learner licence was obtained before 1 July 2007, and
    you do not have to renew your learner licence before
    passing a practical driving test.
    Further information will be available closer to
    implementation.

  • ray

    THESE NEW RULES ARE BLOODY STUPID!!!!!

  • chris loves rotors

    i no wat the govenment r trying to do but its not fair for all of us..most of us do the right thing..but the few people that dont have rect it for all of us i have wanted to get my lisence since i was lyk 5 i started driving cars wen i was 10..so im so pissed off and i think my dad is annoyed to.he jst wants another exuse to buy another car to do up lol:P
    my perents know i wont be stuped lyk some of my friends who already got ther l’s. so these rules have jst fucked everythink up for me.. its goin to make it harder for my to get an aprentiship sooner coz more employers r lookin for people wid a drivers lisance..

  • emily

    i turn 16 in june 2006… so does the laws only take place for people who have their birthday from july 2007?? i am really confused with what laws will apply to me.. please help me =) and so does it mean there is 2 sets of P plates now or something?? i would really appreciate it if you are able to explain to me exactly what i will hve to go through… thanks heaps!

  • Ashleigh

    I figure that i will only wear p plates if i get caught not wearing them. Its so they can single us out and watch us more. its gay and stupid!

  • Crissi

    Just wondering…If i get my L’s in early February, and get my P’s in early August, Am i gonna get stuck with theses stupid new laws?
    And i dont get it how they are saying that “Peer passenger restrictions (only carrying one passenger aged under 21) from 11pm to 5am for P1 under 25″..shouldn’t this be over 21 and 25..Because like us young ppl are sooo irresponsible (sarcasm)…This hole thing is ridiculous..
    Old people need to get a life and start worrying about more important stuff rather than taking away the very few things that young ppl have to look forward to…

  • james

    what a load of fucking shit i what happens if u wnat to take your mate home late at night u are sposed to walk what a load a fucking shit

  • Rohan

    This is really really F*$%ed.. but on p1 can u drive a bunch of people older then then 25 after the hours of 11 to 5.. this is really f783ed and really pissed me off..

  • Lil miss png

    THIS is stupid does this mean because this law is kum n out in july i ave to get my ps when i am 17 1/2??
    THATZ SCREWED UP!!!!!!!

  • Alastair

    come on now fear enough take the high powered vehicles of first year p platers but not the 2nd or 3rd years, for a lot of your bloke around 18 ,19 like me there car are there pride and joy and more then likly they will probibley still drive them any way.

    plus have you ever tried to get rid of cars like these i can tell you now there not always the most desired vehicles of the common family, so a lot of people are going to be stuck with a car they cant drive or sell.

  • …..!!!!

    i hope all ppl affected by these ridiculous laws break them i want if this crap comes in everybody to break these laws i am so sick of the disgraceful job done by the world leaders of the english speaking countries (Australia, England, and the U.S.A)this always happen the ppl are now just so mistreated and if these governments continue to have their way eventually we won’t be able to leave our houses, military subscription will become cumpulsory,u won’t be able to buy stove gas for your bbq, the death penalty will apply the same way as it did in the day the british sent the convicts to australia and the list just goes on. so it is time to stop get rid of these ridiculous changes when you start treating us right u auctually might learn something to be mentally able to help developing and starving nations

  • James

    the government is stupid for a number of reasons.

    restricting the use of high powered vehicles? well it doesnt matter how fast a car can accelerate or how much power it has. even a slow car can have a high top speed.

    only being allowed to have one passenger in your car afte 11pm? that is crap. what if you go out late at night with your friends to dinner or somthing. how are u sposed to get home if no one else can pick u up? walk? public transport? taxi? im sure all of those options are much safer than getting a lift with a ‘p’ plater who you know and can trust.

    what the hell is a hazard perception test?

    extending the learner period to 12 monhs is also a load of crap. who wants to be ‘learning to drive’ for 12 months? this just means that there will be an even higher amount of learners driving without openlicensed drivers.

    also if you are young and want to drive a motorbike? forget it. you have to have your car learners license for 12 months, get your p’s, hold that for another 12 months and than you are eligible to get your motorbike learners. and then i think you have to hold that for another 12 months. so all up if you get your learners when you are 16, get your p’s when you are 17, you can get your motorbike learners when you are 18 and then get your motorbike license when you are 19.

    so basically if u want to drive a motorbike. you will have to wait till you are at least 19 (im pretty sure).

    the government is gay. they are all old people. did u know john howard is turning like 65 this year? how many people in government that are in there 20′s? i dont know anyone. so there, no one is representing us in this argument. our age group has no voice.

    you know that if 32% of fatalities on the roads are 17 – 24 year olds then the other 68% is 24 and above. shouldnt the government be focusing on this age group as more of them are being killed? you know why they arent? because the people in the government would be making laws that restrict their own driving licenses. and apperently they know what is better for us.

    32% of 17 – 24 year olds died. exactly how many of them were hoons? i personally know people who are my age that have died in car accidents. and they were accidents. they werent hooning. also the government doesnt state wether these 32% of youg people fatalities were actually at the wheel when they died. they could have been just passengers when they died. their parents could have been driving them.

    i think it is time for the government to retire and let us take control of the country (even if that does sound a bit dangerous)(well maybe not teenagers but at least younger people who are in their late 20′s or early 30′s) it is time for them to go to their retirement homes and let us have our say.

    i can get my p’s next month and im not happy at all about all this. i have been looking forward to getting my license for years and now im almost there and my priviledges are gunna be taken away from me to stop me from ‘hurting myself’.

    i think that the fatalities are very minor. compared to other countries and also our population. people who want to speed and hoon should be allowed to and they will pay the price. they’ll lose their license, their car and maybe somthing more. a person can only learn through their mistakes.

  • James

    somone should really do somthing

  • James

    haha i found out if you get your p’s before the new rules come in you arent affected by the new rules (score) thanks god. the same applies to learner permits but still if u get ur learners before the new rules come in, u only have to have it for 6 months without the 100hours of driving but the new rules will apply to you if u get your p’s after july 1st. or if u get ur p plate license renewed.

  • saf

    well ive got a question if i get my learners before these new rules come in do i still have to wait 12 months to get my ps say i get my ls 21 june 2007 and the rule comes in july 1st can i get my ps 6 months later which will be 21 december 2007 or do i have to wait 12 months and do 100 hours of driving? some answer my question please.

  • Tom

    I dont get it i live in nsw and im just wondering does the new p plate laws apply to the ones who get there P’s before the laws come out or it affect everyone remeber i live in nsw so its diffent in qld

  • the right person

    yer these new laws are fucking shit why are people in newzealand wich is basicly right nxt to australia get to get there liscence when there like 15 and they dont have to put up with any of this bullshit fucking hell they should put better driving course and care handling tests out not fucking make u hang onto ur liscence for longer periods all u fuckers in the transport department that are changing these laws are fucked in the head go think about it and maybe ull realise it will never make a difference

  • maddie

    this is a fuckin shit rule !!
    i hate u’s all i wanna drive a v8 u faggots

  • http://www.caradvice.com.au/722/queensland-driver-license-new-rules-curfews-and-12-month-learners/#postcomment justin

    I think it is crap the new law their is no point of them because young drive are just going to break them anyway. Are the cops going to look at every car that they pull over to see if they have a turbo or not. The goverment is just doing this for money because they no that people are going to break the law.

  • troy h

    i turn 16 in june nd i have read this whole page and i agree so much with RACQ spokesman Gary Fites.
    i understand where he is coming from

  • Brett

    Amanda: The laws only apply to those who obtain their P Plates from July this year onwards, you should be safe. :)

  • courtney

    I think these rules should be re-thought for example i don’t think they should ban you people from driving high powered vehicles… i think they should bring in a required license to drive a higher powered vehicle. And just because someone hasn’t had as much experience doesn’t mean to say someone that has isn’t gping to cause trouble either….

  • courtney

    I think they need to reconsider these curfews they’ve recently laid out because alot of young people about to go for their license have every intention of getting a higher powered vehicle…
    Ithink they should make it necessary defensive driving course and if you want to drive a high powered vehicle then they should make a speacial license for that too. Just becasue your young doesn’t mean you don’t care about yourself or others…

  • troy c

    this law is fucked i just brought a wb ute 202 and im planing to bomb the shit out of it how the hell is some pig gonna tell the difference fuck them fuck them all

  • steven obrien

    i think a lot of the new laws stink thy say no v8 or turbos i owend a 93 1.8 lt multy point efi motor in a mitsi coup it would pull 200 kmh so were do u get of banning mussel cars all thay have to do is get a small sports car im 45 years old and had v8 and like the baning of thies car is stuped i would prefur to see my kids driving a holden or a ford than one of these little cars that would disintergrate on inpact.

  • Cameron

    this is shit…im really pissed off about that 4wd and motorbike rule…and sure, alot of crash’s happen because of younger drivers…but thats 32%, thats less then half, making the other 68% from older drivers (25+) but nothing is being done about that? wtf

  • http://N/A julia

    i believe that the test for your Provisionals should be where you drive how your going to drive if you get them, not how they expect you to drive. therefore the test should be about them determining how safe your driving is and fixing up any errors they do make, how many people are honestly going to drive like what is expected of you in the test??

  • Jao

    well im turning 16 this yr n yea i guess i had to go through p1 n p2
    omg!!! this is jst F!!! wat if my parents bought me a Subaru STI 2000model n im not a loud to drive it, thats jst F!!! but cant they jst say wat car ur not aloud to drive anyway n yea wat about those 4WD turbo cars!

  • http://www.caradvice.com.au joel

    Hi jao i was just wonderin if your parents have brought u the sti yet bhecause if they have the car under there name u can keep it

  • nicole

    i think that these changes are a good thing for young queenslanders, as the their is now more time for learners to gain experiance on the roads, before being able to get their licence.

  • nicole

    but then again i agree with mel, i’m turning 16 in may and realy most 16 yr olds find it hard to come up with the money to buy their first car,let alone pay all the other extra tests that we will now have to do and pay for. i think that the government should lower the prices for all these tests. it’s bad enough that we have to study for the test, let alone pay so much. and while most of these 16+ yr olds are still studying for their senior schooling to please the government. way to much pressure on queenslands youth’s.

  • ash

    these laws are stupid! wat about da sensible drivers who can handle V8s n aint gunna drive round tryin ta kill em selves its shit n unfair the AUSTRALIAN GOVERNMENT IS A FUCKIN JOKE! y punish every1 4 dose who cant drive!

  • a really really really pissed off teen

    these laws are shit…. i m 15 turning 16 in march. i can drive a car better then most adults. y punish us for the stupid fuck heads that cant drive and wreck it for everyone else that can… the australian government are wanks and doesnt put themselves in our position when the pass these laws. they way i see it is that if ppl wana be stupid they will despite how many rediculas laws u inforce. u r doin more harm then good….. we will do WAT we want WHERE we want WHEN we want wit WHO we want!!!!!

  • casey

    hey i am geting my p plates in 10 days so will the new laws effect me even though i have got my p plates before the laws come in o and the new laws are like gay as and its just going to make more problems for the police and just anoy every younge adult

  • Wooo

    this rule is just sad, even for the governments, jesus chirst i felt so sorry for every1 (including myself) that will be affected by this general bullcrap. we should all stand up against this shit!

  • hello boy

    oh my fuckin god, my ferrari is gonna be lonely now!!

  • Dezza

    What are the punishments? Say if I’m caught driving a V8, turbo whatever, will the car be confiscated? what will happen?

  • Angel

    hey,
    i’m 16 in March dis year n i was wondering… i hava vk commodore that has a straight 6 engine, no turbo, no super charger or anything but would the new law make my car illegal for a learner to drive it when i go for it on july 1st?

  • + Yurza +

    Hi there. Im born on the 23-6-91…do i have to wait untill im 16 and a half or can i go for my learners on july 1st? Please let me know. Thanks.. :)

  • grayham

    hey i get my P’s in april so does that mean the P1 rules apply to me or not?

  • Jellybear

    Ok please for anyone who is asking questions about P’s and L’s read this….and this

    if these links dont work then go here
    and scroll down…….

    **if you get ur P’s BEFORE 1 July 2007 the new P rules WONT affect you…**

    (sorry if this has already been said…)

  • Callum

    How can the Government do this. I understand that they are worried, But make drivers get their learners at 17 when the kids have matured a bit more and still hold them for 6 months.

    I’m currently an apprentice on my L’s and, I now, in 6 months will have to use my own vehicle for work instead of using the bosses turbo deisel. That means on my $250 weeks earnings I have to pay roughly instead of 1 tank of fuel costing $75, 2 tanks costing me roughly $150, services come quicker and at $350 each thats over a weeks pay, in between this im trying to save some money, I barely have a life anymore because of this license scheme and now I am being forced to buy a road bike so I can save money on fuel costing at least $4000 for something decent, thats not including rego and insurance every year. But it gets better as I go on, you see the 100 hours of driving school lessons costing around $5000 will be a real style cramper seen as I only earn $8000 a year.

    If the government cares that much about kids and the roads why don’t they come up with a restricted license, stating that if you can prove you need the turbo or v8 for work you can own it. Really has noone in their high payed job ever sat back and thought about what the consequenses of what this would be, I now as a kid getting my license in 6 months or so have grown a deep hate for the government and the police. More people get stabbed every week than they do die in a car crash so why not do something about that.

    In the end all I see is a bunch of idiots pretending to care, the government did this to benefit not because they care for each and everyone of us.

    Why not make people over 65 every 10 years take their practical license again. Those old people are more of a threat to the roads that us young kids are.

    So to everyone who works in a government department, when you go home at night and you lay in bed with your licence stowed away in a safe place why not just stop for a second and think how you would feel if it was you having to go through this shit. How would you feel if you had to get a weekend job to save up for this license while all your mates went and played sports on weekends and went to parties.

    I believe that if the government compared its license scheme to other countries or states scheme it would come out as one of the most expensive licenses to get in the world.

    The problem is they just dont care about us. The government has now made the mistake and will have to pay for it.

    Thanks Peter Beatie you’ve really won my vote, NOT!!!

    Peace Out

  • Li-C

    Hi I’m 15 at the moment and I’m turning 16 on the 2nd of may 2007 i just wanted to know if i can go for my L’s in July or do i still have to wait till I’m 16 and 6 months and if i do have to wait, will i have my L’s for 6 months or 1 yr

  • b-rett

    bahhaha these rules suck balls!! what if i already own a high performance car?? you expect me to sell what i’ve saved for years to buy!! dont think so lads! and the rule about one person in the car after 11 how stupid is that shit!! least it will save people walkin the streets drunk from parties, or if ya up town and with a few mates n call for someone ya kno to come pick them up! Seano ur a wanker!!

  • b-rett

    Mr Lucas!! i really dont think you know what your talking about!! pff made hard decisions.. they’ve only been hard because they’re fukn stupid!! leave everything the way it is!! or just dont make rediculous shit up.. your probly all old farts anyway, you wuould of been young once so let us live in a world without the shit use never had to put up with!! All these new rules all the time are fukn bullshit! stop trying to be like other countries around the world.. for fuk sake this is australia, spose to be one of the best countries in the world but the government is just fuking it up for the youth of today!

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    does it mean p drivers are only guna be able to do a max of 90kmh like NSW

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  • Ash

    so these New laws are geting a bit out of hand, i agree with the car restrictions.

    But the Curfew, limiting passangers and undergo a hazard perception test.

    First of all the curfew is stupid i do shift work, and by you inforcing this law i will lose my job!

    The limiting passangers again stupid, me and my work mates car pool becasue it works out cheaper for all of us. As we are on stingy wages!

    As for the course that is just pathetic, you keep telling us that we are adults and blah blah blah at 18, how do u expect us to fork out money for this course i hope the govenment is paying for it,

    You may think you are doing the right thing but by doing this you are putting more young lives at risk, wat about the have a designated driver????? how can there be one if you wont let us drive at night/ have limit’s on passengers.

    This whole plan isnt thought out very well you are contradicting your selves by saying be safe have a designated driver but yet you are putting in laws that over right that.

    Us 18 year olds are on a under 21 wage. so we dont get the ADULT wage. how do you expect us to keep coughing up money so it can go towards other stuff, wen we need as much as we can get, i work enough over time just to make ends meet, with paying the rent, food, fuel, bills and everyday living.

    In july i will have my licence for 1.5 years so does that mean i have to follow these new rules???
    Or will these laws only apply to new drivers after july?

  • MattyK

    that is so gay i would under stand if the restriction was for like 1 year tops to understand 2 read the road but that is fucking BULL SHIT I WOULD LIKE 2 KICK WHO EVER CAME UP WID THE RULES HEAD IN!!!
    i was saving up 4 a V8 cuz i drive a mazda 121 and that has almost no power and they want 2 take that away from me. so ill just make a fucking powerfull twin 20B roters which has about 2 as much power as a v8 in 1 roater. and the cops cant do shit cuz it is within all the rules and about a 600hp car so every 1 gets a mazda rx7 undo the turbo and bore out the roater and harden it u’ll have a 350-400hp car which the cops cant touch and u dont need the turbo to kick in so enjoy;)

  • anomonous

    matty K ur a fag u know that, a 20B is a turbo/twin turbo engine and it wouldn’t run proprly if u took the turbo/s off.. go back to drivin ur ricebubble, LOL jks aye, the new rules are fucked hardcore. if i get my P’s b4 july 1st does it mean im affected by the new rules as sum sites say i am where as others say i wont be affeceted.. its too confusin hahaha

  • MattyK

    o and also u can use abit of NOS to up the power abit more just dont let the cops find it or have it discanected when ur not planing 2 use it

  • MattyK

    anomonous ur fucking wrong there usealy turbo but they dont have 2 be and they r street leagal and they r still very powerful so go drop the soap as u usealy like 2 do:P

  • Faux

    haha they cant do shit to me if i go to perth n drive my dads cars. so atleast they can suck on that

  • *KK*

    Hey i’m kaylah about these new rules i think they dnt apply to me coz i was born on the 13/07/90. but i was wondering when i go for my l’s test(written) before i can drive: how many people can i drive with?
    can i drive on the high way?
    how many paid driving test do i have to do?
    AND how long do i have to hold my learners for

    i’m really confused about everything! i want to do everything right. please can you reply asap i want to go for it asap
    please and thank you
    kind regards,
    kaylah petrie
    QLD

  • Shane

    man this is a bit stupid… i turn 16 in a few days and would of been able to get my l’s in september and hold them for 6 months but because this new law comes in will i have to get them in july and hold them for 12 months and do the 100 hrs of driving… that sucks if i do…

  • Jimmy

    Is they a speed limit for learner drivers now? and are there going to be speed limits for Learners and P’s after the new rules are introduced??

  • http://... Stevie

    Hi im turning 16 this year and i want to know the 100 hours learning on-road who will be paying for that?? i personally think some of the rules are really stupid.

    Who will be paying the $4000 thousands dollars. because i certainly won’t i’m bairly getting enough money as it is. You government people really like to take money off of us! Don’t you !!

    Also it’s not just young adults that are being silly on roads there are older people that are also being silly on road you can’t always blame the younger adults… Always seem to be easier that way does’nt it! Blaming the younger people.

    With all the new laws all you are going to do is piss people off and make things worse.. and who going to be the blame!!! you are.. the government… i really hope you have a second think on what you are doing!!

  • Paul

    The new laws in most states aernt going to do much to decrease the roa toll. And Im highly suspect at how they say young people crash alot more then older drivers. Not the fact that they crash more per number of drivers, but whether this is attributed to bad driving etc or whether other factors are the cause. Have they ever considered that younger drivers drive more then older ones. Have they considered that they drive more at times when fatalities occur on the road, at night. A number of factors should be considered, not just looking at statistics at face value because anyone can manipulate them to prove a point.

    I would REALLY like to see crash statisitcs based on kms driven rather than just on face value. And there are stats like this, but they are only on an entire population basis, but what about doing it for different age groups… I would guarrantee that p-platers wouldnt look so bad in this light considering what I mentioned previously, while other age groups such as the elderly wouldnt show up so favourably.

  • Paul

    And also the QLD changes are stupid, in NSW we’ve have them for a while now, no difference in the road toll… it always fluctuates up and down, no trend at all. The problem here is the media is having to much of an effect, pressuring govts into making stupid changes to shut the crowds up.

  • Cameron

    hey i turned 16 on 2nd of january this year, and i want to know if i have to do this 100 hours cr*p and have my L’s for 1 year before i get P’s.

    These laws changes 1 days before i was mean’t to get my L’s and its really stupid if i have to do all this new cr*p.

  • ryan said

    hey i am 16 about to turn 17 in a few day and get my p’s and i rekon that p-plates shouldnt come back out because that when you go and get you license there is a certain responsibility that you are presented with when you get your id. the racq and police are silencing out a large proportion of youth that are good people and arent reckless…

    this issue on p-plates should be presented to the whole of the queensland body and there should be a survey or a vote to conduct this….

    it is just stupid why change them now it is only gunna get worse…

  • danielle

    does that mean for the people who are born befor july stay with the old rules and only have the L’s for 6 months?

  • Candy

    So how long will I be holding my P Licence for if I get it before July? I’ve been told 3 years, but the new system looks like it’s only 2…?

  • griggy

    i am born in september 9th and im goin for my learners tomoro the 9th of march, since i get my learners before the new rules but get my P’s after july 1st do i still get hit with all that new law crap?????

  • Em

    i was wondering how long you have to have your p2 license for?

  • andrea

    i do not agree with all of the restrictions that have been introduced.

    However the government did have a 6 month consultation process where young people could make submissions regarding the new rules. you could fill itout via web or paper

    Qld did also have forums you could attend so you could speak your opinions that these suck and why they suck.

    there was publicity about this through the media, through schools, through newspapers, posters ect it was absolutely everywhere.

    Why didn’t you all speak up about this while there was a consultation process like i did, i filled in submissions told everyone i could and also attened the forums.

    all i suggest is so you know about laws that are affecting you in the future and that you have your say before its to late and so the government knows more about young peoples opinions that you regularly check the Qld gov youth website http://www.generate.qld.gov.au
    this way you have your say and maybe laws like this will not be introduced next time.

    also other good websites are to continually check out is the young driver website .. u can also check how the new laws will affect you personally (as i read alot of people asking how it will effect them)
    http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/…
    and
    http://www.thesource.gov.au/

  • Take a deep breath!

    Stop Bitching about the new laws please! I fall under the same category as everyone else and they’re only trying to enforce these things to stop people from killin themselves or pose as a risk to others!! Stop being so self indulged. It doesnt just effect you it effects everyone!!

  • D.T

    yea maybe they are trying to save our lives but the people who made these laws and who are enforcing these laws were able to survive using the old system so why should they do this to us. and the power restrictions are bullshit… the only cars I’ve seen on the news that have been in fatal crashes are AUSTRALIAN MADE Holdens and fords so don’t take our beloved imported turbos
    (that never land on the news)away.

  • Darkplague

    Ok so… none of those laws really bother me… even though some are kind of annoying but theres only one thing im concered about… are v6 turbos banned… not v6′s with bolt on turbos, but a stock v6 turbo… say… a skyline R33 gts-t or something. Ive noticed from what ive read that no one else has brought this up, but sorry if it has been brought up and ive missed it. I actualy want a Silvia since it would be my first car and they are cheaper to run and to buy, But if i saw a cheap skyline in good condition i would most likely buy it. But if v6 turbos are banned… whats the point in looking out for one. It also seems to me that this new restricted vehicle will actualy sorta make it worse… because now young drivers only choices of cars are cheap peices of crap that will break down or they will trash and will be more likely to crash rather then spend money on a nicer but less powerfull car. But that is just how i see it. but yeah if anyone knows about the turbo please reply

  • Darkplague

    Sorry i ment restricted vehicle law if anyone found that confusing

  • jordy bitch

    dude life is a BITCH and you r to so suck my dick im going to go get sum munchie food cuz im stoned

  • Death

    let them hav there turbo cars and let them kill them self so i get more money for my job ill kill u all

  • Darkplague

    Ok it seems no one has responded to my question…which is fine because i have a new question… it seems that most silvias that I can find that are manual…are also turbo… shit … so… this new rule is suppose to ban “high powered” cars including turbos and superchargers… now, do you count a 4 cylinder turbo to be powerfull. I sure hope not… i dont really want a peice of shit car i want something nice. This is what im looking at, cheap, and nice.
    http://images.carsales.com.au/private/2036973.jpg

    also 1 other thing. you guys need to calm down about this new rule, yes its annoying as all hell but theres nothing we can really do about it, saying that though if you can honestly think of a way to change there minds ill be glad to give it a try with you ;)

  • http://www.alborzfallah.com alborz

    that car will be banned for you mate,
    a 4 cylinder turbo is a high powered car.
    you will be limited to some shitbox Naturally aspirated engine for the first year.

  • Darkplague

    1 thing i forgot… dont be yelling at me saying shit like i hope you kill your self in that car etc etc. I actualy want to be a proffesional racer, not just another hoon. The power in it would only be used on the race track not in the streets, since if i race it illegaly and lost it… i couldnt get to work… which means i would be fired… hooray (sarcasim)

  • Darkplague

    Ah… ok that sucks hugely…

  • Ryan

    Okay im really peved off now, after reading these new rules. The main one is the enforcing of high-powered vehicles…ahm how the hell r they going to enforce that??? Ok i own a nissan 180sx it is turbo charged direct inject 4 cylinda, my mate owns a holden com 98 model v6 now it has way more power than my car way more, and i bet any amount of money that the police and goverment would both say that my car is unexceptable because it is a sports-turbo car, yet my friends which is much more heavy and alot lot lot more powerful is much more dangerous would pass this new goverment (bullshit) policy.

    Ok there was a shite load of crashes on the weekend as well like what 6?? But there was only 2 young drivers under 25 out of those 6?? well i dunno should we let the old farts on the road who probably couldn’t tell u more than 5 road rules continue being the crap drivers, they need re-education on driving as well i think.

    The worse thing on the road 2 is those god damn 4WD i mean they guzzle our short supply of petrol and pollute so badlly they are an eye sore disgusting things you cant see past them in traffic so they are a major hazard and i bet you that if a 4WD is in a car accident with a normal family car that the 4WD will come away with the driver with a few injuries and a broken bone and the family well there having fun up in the fluffy white clouds of heaven. Okay i went a little over board but i mean hardly any 4WD owners actually use their vehicles for what they were designed and i think that the goverment should bloody well ban them as they are a huge part of that satistic of on road deaths.

    To finish of with i dont think this whole new “law” will work in any effect to be honest, cause if mr beattie and the rest of those board of wankers really thinks that this will work there heads are really that far up there arse’s that they trully are just smelling the tax payers money (4000$ for 100 hours learners) and there own political bullshit. What are they going to do come up with some sort of new “high-power” test to say “no im sorry ur car is too power full for someone so young to drive”????? wtf a ok mate well u can go buy me a new one

  • http://www.alborzfallah.com alborz

    Hi Ryan
    the rules wont affect you as you already have your car
    nonetheless I agree 100% with what you’ve said
    I have asked QLD transport numerous times to read this website and see what people have to say about the new rules to at least reconsider the idea that a blanket ban on high powered cars is absolute nonesense,

    but QLD transport is ran by a bunch of peeved off government workers who hate their lives and wish to pass that hate onto the rest of us :P so its hard to get to them

  • Matthew

    I think that part of the new laws should contain a spelling test. More to the point, an IQ test. Honestly some of the responses here don’t make you sound tough or cool, they make you sound like a constipated monkey trying to grunt out a language.

    Learn to drive in a shit heap. Maybe then you’ll live long enough to learn how to handle a high powered car.

  • ROOTER

    i have a 1925 chev that i am working on and i am putting a skyline GTR engine with twin turbos in and i am doing up the axles, bearings and every thing else on the car i get my learners 2 days before the new laws does this affect my drivind of my HOTROD.

    my car is awesome some help would be appreciated.

    Thanks Gordon Roots (ROOTER)

  • jess

    this is lame! y should we all have to be punished for the stupid f**kwits out there seriously i mean who’s to say we r all like that!!!! look my brother is a p plater and he is senszsible y should we all have to suffer come on i mean yeh they should just put an extra 20 hours of night vision on there but seriously this law is fucked!!!!!!!!! its there own fault if they kill em selves but come on……………….. yes we maybe immature but when it comes to the road most ppl do do the right thing!!!!! anywho i hate this new law and think its fucked

  • Death

    hello people in like cars they are cool i am not stoned

  • Jeffalicious

    I like to lick the moss off pebbles. It makes me happy, and if I didn’t I’d cry myself to sleep every night.

  • kenneth

    these new laws r so fucking stupit.

    ITS EVEN WORSE FOR ME!
    i turned 16 on dec 31 and with the current laws i should have my L’s on july 1 at 16and a half.

    but now these new things r coming in on july 1 which means i still get em but ill come in under these fucked up laws and also be 6months behind as every1 else will be only 16

    either way i dont win

  • Trent

    Ok, but what are the actual rules for P plate’s if you have it before July 31? Do we have all the same rules, longer provisional periods? Do we actually have to use all the same plates??? CONFUSED!

  • Joel

    THE NEW LAWS CAN DIE!

    they are probably the worst things i have ever heard of…..the people who thought of these new laws are fags…they arnt going to do anything to help….if they are so worried about young drivers dying and stuff arn’t they contradicting themselves by reducing the age limit so younger people are able to drive????????

  • Caneron

    these new laws should only apply to people that turn 16 after 1st of july, not people who are already 16 or older.

  • Red

    these new laws suck big time, whats the point of them. i own a 507 rwkw 1974 rx4 twin turbo n im only 17… ive never even come close to killing myself or even crashing, the closest ive come is an old nanna backing into me at wollies, these laws r ridiclious, young ppl are just as good drivers or even better than oldies. young ppl can drive and shouldnt be restricted, youngsters i’d be cutting sick in ur turbo/V8′s out side the dept of trans if i were u! STICK IT TO THE WANKERS IN PARLIMENT!!!!!

  • Joel

    Respect goes to red!!!!!

  • josh

    Hi, i got my L’s on december 11th and was just wondering when i can acctually go for my Provisionals??
    Be a great help if you could tell me when..lol

  • Lucas

    This is F*#king stupid, Im ment to be getting my L’s just as the new rules are set, I should really be on my L’s at the moment with the new system of rules. Insted I have to wait another 6 months. People like me are not going to take this well, kids will just get cut and drive anyway, breaking anouther stupid law. I need transport for work and for school otherwise its two buses and taxi’s, F*#k that, Id rather drive and risk it..

  • devildice

    i think this new law is sh!t we should not be told what to drive most of us have v8s and turbos already and what about the people that who were givin them by some one who has died like there dad why should they sell it well fuck that i think we should just drive them every teen in AUST start them up and punh a cop in the mouth

  • http://www.myspace.com/joshmonsour Josh

    I am 15 and get my learners in 11 months time, on march the 2nd 2008, i first would like to say that i agree with one rule that they have implemented, this is

    •lowering the minimum learner age to 16 and extending the licence period to 12 months.

    What i would like to know is what you mean by this law,

    •high-powered vehicle restrictions for provisional drivers under 25.

    What is a high powered car to the Queensland Transport Center, are you saying no V8′s or V6′s, no matter wether you implement this law 4 cylinder cars still go fast and still speed, I know people who have recieved there license and bought 4 cylinder cars and drive at high speeds already.

    Maybe the Queensland transport department should just leave the laws as they are… not tamper with them.. cause when you tamper with things they can only become worse

  • Juggalo

    I agree with some of the new laws, but not all of them. If u mean that ppl have 2 get 100 hrs of driving exp wiht a driving school thats wrong. Lesson are about $50 at the moment. That means everyone has 2 find $5000 before they can even go for there P licence. if u do this u should make it comptencey based. which means that u dont have 2 go for a test but when the driving school thinks that ur ready u will get ur licence

  • Justin

    I jsut have my learner licent at this moment , if i do my driving test half years later , does the new rule apply on me ?

    the new rule is following to the learner issue date or only to the driving test date ?

  • sharon

    I am 17 years old and am able to get my Ps on the 4th of july this year. 3 days after the law comes in.. i am wanting to no if the new laws apply to people that get there L’s after the 1st of july or anyone that is still on there Ls when the law comes in, if anyone has any information please email me. Thanks Sharon

  • Kat

    well i think these rules are completly stupid. im 16 and a half. no kid my age is going to want to abide by these rules come on… no hands free, a log book, 100 hours, 12 months!!! arghhh thats crazy. lets just say you are ganna have a lot of pissed off teenagers, 12 months is way 2 long and what if your like me and cant get anyone to drive with you. my mother works full time and im still in school and my father lives in another state and my aunts and uncles work too so there is really no one else who will have the time to drive with me so i really don’t have a clue how I will be able to log the hours of supervised driving. i agree with the fast guys being banned for young drivers but in a way it really sux coz i want a fast car too but its a good rule considering how many young people have died in the past 6 months in my home town from fast cars, yes thats kids aged 16-19. but yes a big fuck you to the fuked up government for screwing it up for all the young drivers about to get their liscence coz i really cant find anyone to supervise me so yea fuk you and fuk you to the drivers who did the immature things that made the government decide to enforce these new laws in the 1st place. this really does suck

  • Jesstrix

    WHAT! THE! FUCK!!!!! Thats fucking stupid, the whole go on your p1 and then have a ”hazard” test before your p2. This is a money making scheme. Getting your p’s is expensive enough, what with lessons (about $45 each, then the actual test ($115 with lesson)…THEN If you even PASS it’s 40 bucks or so for your actual licence.

  • sarah

    im wondering how they are going to govern the rules about not carrying passengers under 25 and 21 with these new p plate laws. wat about the p platers who got their licences before july. how are the police going to know whether these young people have got there licence before or after july unless they pull them over and check?? also this curfew thing all ur gonna do is have young kids puttin there mates in the boots of their car. wake up and realise these rules are going to just put young people in more danger!!!!

  • sarah

    honestly people think about it. the government is absolutly stupid if they think they can make this work. your gonna cause havoc and a bloody shit load of more accidents. if people are going to do the wrong thing there going to do the wrong thing no laws will stop them. there killing themselves with their stupidity but dont punish the rest of us for it. wankers!!!!!!!

  • Ryan

    thats so stupid i should get my Ls on the 10th of july and have to only have it for 6 months but now the new laws come out and i get it on the 1st but i have to have my Ls for 1 year. lame leave it the way it is if young people wanna die let them die@!!!

  • corey

    ok people plz help me out i turned 17 in february 15ths than i got my L’s bit late i know.anyway i get my P’s in august this year and once i have them im moving back to nsw now im askin if i will be able to drive a 2.5 liter engine my friend thinks that i wont be able to drive anythin more than a 2.0 liter .is this true :( ? coz if it is than … there goes my dream car ( skyline r33 ) for a long time ..

  • vinnie

    You wanna know what i think tint your windows as dark as possible grow a beard and the cops wont be able to see how old you are that way you have a better chance of avoiding the under 25s car engine limit

  • Jared

    The reaction of alot of you young drivers is the exact reason these laws are needed its a sham the honest ones (however rare they seem to be) have to suffer for the immature idiots. If your wondering what im referring to its the comments like ‘I dont care more rules for me to break’, these are laws not just rules, if you think of laws so lightly why not go rob a bank, kill someone or worse, those are only laws who cares right?.The laws have been light on young drivers and all theyve ever done was kill themselves and others.
    I just wish they added one more thing to the list, once you lose your liscence thats it, no second chances you get enough points in your first chance, and i mean for all drivers 17-80, theres no excuse for losing 12 points (or 4 for the short P plate time when you should be on your best behaviour and not get fined anyway)

    As for the powerful car restrictions if you think about it they more then likely will use power to weight ratios not just raw power, so all your turbo diesils, factory turbocharger and superchargers will more then likely fall below the acceptable level.

    Wish theyd had these rules in 6 years ago, maybe the couple of friends I lost in car accidents swould still be alive.

  • Brent

    My birthday is in january so i am 16 now!! i turn 16 and a half mid july, so does this mean i dont have to hold my learners for a year!! Or does it mean i cant get my p’s until im 17 1/2?? I am very confused with this new system and my birthday being in between the dates.

  • Terri

    This is for the young wanna be drivers out there who think they are mature enough to be driving on our roads!! Seems like you have not ever been to a morgue to see what happens to real victims of in-mature attitudes like what I have seen in here. Sadly but hopefully not you won’t have to be faced with looking a dead beloved family family member or best beloved friend whom has been killed by you or anyone else with an immature responsibility

    Maybe even have to live with a life long body defect yourself or you’ve done to someone else. Even a simple game has rules! Why cheat on our roads and go against the rules. Im not saying all young drivers are bad and irresponsible drivers, even the elder drivers can be a risk factor on our roads! There is no room for ignorance to saftey.

  • Terri

    Hi Jared,

    Good comments, Thank you for standing up. I agree with what you have said in here. Maybe some fools were not really on this planet when they entered there sly remarks. One day hopefully they will grow up! Its a shame a license is handed out at such young ages….our government in my opinion has made it this way especially when we have young people in the work force whom can’t rely on parents…or worse still parents that don’t give a rats! Our young people are forced into a fast lane before their time all way round, whether its driving working or just life in general the whole thing is out of control! Our kids are made to grow up before they are really ready too! Unfortunately some with out maturity!

  • brandon

    terri

    im nearly 16 1/2 altho i agree with u on the fact that some of us are made to grow up to fast n ya se all can b imerture even a 60 yr old it still dosen’t excuse tha fact that tha guverment is putting all there laws into place to milk us of money i can work a 48 hr week n most of it goes on saving for a car if i want a (hi power car)i will get it i no more old people that speed n shit then younger people u think that i want to lose mi liceance b4 i even get it

    i just beleive that tha government should re think on some of tha stuff lik 100 hrs of driving experence i dont got $4ooo dollers to do that all they r trying to do is make sure that they get more money out of younger australians

    also mi mum has a bad knee do u think that she can drive every where with us it should still b tha 6 months on ur learners n harder tests

  • http://www.caradvice.com.au/722/queensland-driver-license-new-rules-curfews-and-12-month-learners/ ben

    that is the most rediculous thing ever having to wait a whole year to get your bike l’s

  • Michael

    Ive had my P’s for a while now and I just find this little bit of information quite amusing:
    “32 per cent of our road toll 106 fatalities came as a result of young driver crashes.”

    Im pretty sure my maths is fairly good does that not mean that 68% of all other crashes come as a result of EVERY BLOODY BODY ELSE!!!!

    But whats even more amusing is that I went and rhad a geeez at the report myself http://www.pc.gov.au/gsp/reports/rogs/2007/justice/attachment05.pdf
    And I found that your statement is false 32% of crashes involved young drivers not “came as a result of” the only reason you people want to give us all these rules is because your all gettting old and cant stand the sound of our loud music and noisy exhuast systems, get a grip Old Foggies your just getting old and you dont like it.

    and if u want to pick on someone pick on 4WD drivers , 4WD accidents have increased by 85 percent in the last 4 years, oh hang on you old people drive 4WD’s I guess you have to pass the blame on to someone like little children do when they draw on the wall.

  • Mark

    Hi. I’m an australien siticent living in Denmark.
    When I move back to Australia I will have had my danish licens for 3 years and be 21. Does any one know how these new laws will effect me?
    Do I have to have 100 hours of driving?
    I’m permitted to drive on my danish licens the first year I there so it seems stupid that I have to spend 100 hours learning to drive after I’ve been driving in queensland for a year.

  • drifter

    da new laws ar soo…. gay. seriously 12 mounths, 100 hours this is very GAY GAY GAY. by the way i live my life sideways a.k.a. drift

  • http://mini-with-basshotmail.com drifter

    if enyone knows the answer to, can L and P platers have turbos in there cars plz reply to mini-with-bass@homtail.com cherrs

  • JACO

    these laws are absolutely stupid and my main concern is i have a turbo skyline and i am only 17 i drive it normal and my frends who r the same age have slower cars and they drive like crazy so its up to the person not the car. so if anyone can tell me if i get my P’s before the law comes in and the car is in my name am i still aloud to drive it? thanx if anyone can answer me this question email me to jasminpjanic@hotmail.com

  • toni

    so,
    ok, how does all this work?
    i’ll be 16 when the new laws come in
    so does that mean the new laws effect me? or do i follow the old laws?

    (because my friend said, becasue im 16 before the new laws, the old laws effect me)

    what is the deal?

    cheers

  • adam

    im 1 and a half months away from getting my lerners and i have a massivley worked 31 skyline that i have spent well over 10 thousnd dollers on and now im being told i can’t drive it well these rules are shit ill be driving it anyway and if the cops or goverment try to stop me well to bad because i have spent all my hard earned money on this car and unless there going to give me all my money back they can go get fucked! So all u learners with turboed and v8 cars join me and drive them anyway.

  • chloe

    So what happens if you have been waiting to get your lerners because you were born on the 31th of december?…I have a friend who will be 16 and a half on the 31st of june this year (a saturday… and qld transport closed i guess) so when she goes for her learners on the 1st of july she will be under the new laws… how stupid! That means she will have to follow all new rules even though she waited till 16 and a half to get her L’s!!!! and even worse she wont be able to get her licence ubtil 17 and a half cause she has to wait the full year… is that right!?!

  • http://www.alborzfallah.com alborz

    yep

  • Karen

    so if i get my p’s before july 2007 i will still hav to put up with all the P1 and P2 rules and wat not?? i thort that if u had your P’s before that date u missed out on all that crap??

  • Amina

    i dont get it. if i get my learners before the 31st of July, like in April when does that mean i am eligible to go for my P’s do i still only have to have my learners for 6 months or 1 year and do i have to follow the new laws with things such a P plates??? etc. please answer me. nobody can give me the correct answer, simply because these new laws are a load of shit and wasting everybodys time.

  • http://www.alborzfallah.com alborz

    None of you seem to able to read!
    http://www.caradvice.com.au/1303/qld-driver-licence-new-rules-learners-p-plates-july-2007/
    if you get your learners BEFORE the new laws, you’ll only have to wait 6 months,
    BUT
    u will have to adhere to all the new P plater laws.

  • Amina

    thankyou.

  • alskar

    it’s crazy,100hrs of supervised driving…that will cost $4000 per person. I think i better become an instructor.
    You guys cant really blame the government, they were quite lenient b4. If u wanna blame, blame those stupid young kids who speed and kill themself. And cause u guys to suffer the new crazy rules…

  • Courtney

    THIS LAW IS BOTH UNFAIR AND VERY AGEIST! I am a female and am 16 years of age, I was actually very excited about getting my licence until I found out about this new law it really angered me. Because I no that I would be one of the many people under the age of 25 that would drive efficiently and according to the road rules! I think that personally the new law is unnecessary and worse then the law that’s in force at the moment. I agree with most people commenting against the law it is stupid to prolong the learning period for driving and unfair to target younger people who want to obtain a licence. Accidents happen all the time and no matter how you change the rules they will always happen it’s a fact, car accidents and deaths caused by them can still happen wether or not the driver is 17 or 70, wether the driver is driving a fast car or a slow car, wether the driver is male or female or wether the driver just got their licence or has had it for 40 years it makes absolutely. I’m guessing the person who made this brainless law was over the age of 25 and you must think about it everyone else who is over the age of 25 (the so called, you can drive safely age just because your older) did you drive recklessly when you were younger? Did you run red lights? Did you have an accident wether it was small or big? Did you have road rage? I can guarantee that to any person who reads this most people would answer yes and that they still even do some of those things now at the age of 17, 30, 45 or 70. It makes no difference to what the age not everyone who goes against the law is under the fucking age of 25 and did you ever think to just give out a more challenging testing process to the young people wanting to learn rather then fucking around with the whole system. You no that this new law will piss a lot of people my age off and it will cause more people to drive more recklessly because they have to wait now double time to get the licence they wanted just so they could drive to the beach or go out with some mates. You have no idea how much of a mistake this law is and how much worse the accidents will be. The government and transport people and all the other people who control this country just have no stupid idea to what they are doing some times and how it is going to effect the rest of the country you are supposed to be representing but still neglected to ask how they feel about the changes you are making for them, its so idiotic it will only make the people rebel more don’t you see that!

  • Courtney

    Oh and by the way since those extra 100 hours of driving lessons which we didn’t ask for but we have to conveniently pay for will cost $4000 I’m pretty sure no one will want to drive, then you will get no money, no people paying for insurance, buying cars or going for a license so your insanely fucking retarded greedy government ass’s will be fucked then hey

  • Courtney

    I feel completely embarrassed that such people like you can even be called leaders yet alone lead our country.
    Goodnight board of greedy fuck wit’s

  • N@TH@N

    seriously wat about us kids who dont go to school like me im only 17 but i cant get my p’s now cos of these stupid rules! now i cant drive myself to work so i have to rely on my parents to take me 40 mins to work.. and if i was to try and rent close to work then i wouldnt be able to pay for my lessons! plus that means kids are gonna have to basically work there asses off to pay for lessons only to leave school with no money and no car! WELL DONE guys first class fuck up if u ask me uve managed to take all the dissadvantages of getting ur licence from every state and put them into one!

  • George

    you know that the 100 hours of supervised driving doesn’t have to be done with an instructer…its supervised because you have to have someone in the car with you for example your parent…so its not going to cost $4000-5000… and if you do have a driving lesson that one hour that the lesson goes for counts for 3 hours in your log book ..the way i understand it from reading the Queensland Transport site http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/resources/file/eb90ed0bad1750f/Learner_licence_fact_sheet_Mar07v2.pdf is that if you get your P’s before July 1st none of these laws apply to you anyways…

  • http://CarAdvice Christine

    I came across this site by accident, I am delighted to know that finally young motorists will be required to complete intensive driving training before having the PRIVLEDGE to drive vehicles.

    I understand that many people regard these new laws of safety as an inconvience, and costly. However driving is not a RIGHT, it carries with it RESPONSIBILITY that will be obtained by these new laws.

    I also agree that all motorists regardless of age need to be able to demonstrate safe driving skills, and have a medical check to ensure they have not lost ability to remain safe behind the wheel.

    I also feel that part of driver training and maintaining a licence, drivers should also be required to maintain a current First Aid Certificate as part of their licence.

    To obtain a Drivers Licence is costly, so is buying a car, so is paying for rehabilitation or funerals after being injured in a MVA. It is also a greater inconvenience to be dead or be left with life-long injuries as a result of an MVA.

    I know, I have suffered greatly because of another motorists neglect behind the wheel. I was driving my car safely. My life will never be the same again, my injuries are permanant, but at least I am still alive.

  • sul.

    Honestly i figure we all kick up a fuss and shove it up there ass.
    i understand that the Queensland government is employing more coppers to patrol the roads due to these laws but will they have enough?
    i turn 16 in a week, does that mean that i can go for my learners on the first of july?
    because from then you only need to be 16 to go for your l’s?
    what do i do about getting my l’s anyway?

  • sul.

    Honestly i figure we all kick up a fuss and shove it up there ass.
    i understand that the Queensland government is employing more coppers to patrol the roads due to these laws but will they have enough?
    i turn 16 in a week, does that mean that i can go for my learners on the first of july?
    because from then you only need to be 16 to go for your l’s?
    what do i do about getting my l’s anyway?
    frankly fuck the coppers, fuck the government and fuck beatey.
    i understand that the coppers keep us safe and i respect that.
    this is crossing the line, the government is skating on thin ice here and its going to come back and bite them in the ass if they dont do something about it soon.

  • Moogie

    Exactly!
    It’s annoying because I turned 16 two weeks ago.
    Which means I’ll be like, 16 and 3 months when the new laws come out.
    So I’ll end up getting my learners earlier.
    But my license itself later.
    AND 100 hours?!?!
    WTF!
    $4000 aye?
    Pretty sure my parents are gonna LOVE that.
    Not.

  • Simon

    Hey buy july 1 i will have my P’s for 11months and b turning 18 in july, will the new rules affect me or will they miss me totaly.
    Thanks.

  • hannah

    this is absolute bullshit! why does the law have to change now! they’ve been in place for years why do they have to screw our year over!

    Statistics show that the most common accidents happen between 20 – 35 year olds, and the the really old son of a bitches that can’t see out the windscreen that think they are driving so safely 20ks under the limit…thats when accidents happen wen ppl try and over take those slow mo fos.. why should us decent drivers get punished and have to pay 4000 for 100 hrs of driving lessons just so that shitty drivers can be weeded out … just get more police out there to tackle those ignorant “commadore” idiots!
    just get over it theres always goin to be accidents ppl should just use some common sence on the road! and the government should stop being so damn law crazy.

  • hannah

    christinee… shut your face! ill personally run u down with my car when im having to do my 100 friggen hours of driving….

    fills queerr

    right on sam kendall! drag ya mate? haha

    seriously…these ppl who already have their liscence can shove their opinionand n car up their anus n shut the hell up!

    ill do the hours if the government friggen pays for it i could be wasting that money on booze and clothes shitface!

  • Not A Tard

    To the retards complaining about having learners for 12 months. You can get them when you’re 16 now, not 16 and a half, so you still go to P’s when you’re 17. Why whinge about this part of the topic?

  • Jayme

    I turn 16 at the end of may so wat does that mean for me. Do i have to go threw all dat or can i get my L’s straight away…

  • Jamie

    I turn 16 in may.. so does this mean the rules aply for me will i have to have my L’s for 12 months or not…

  • cozza

    this is soo fuckn gay i dont get my ps untill auguest fuckin ripped no turbo for me aye ? well i say fuck em just makes me wanna do 150 in a skool zone old pricks that made this shit ass law can lick my left nut ! cheers

  • Steven

    Hey, Iam steve and iam 17 and ride motorcycles as my form of transport. I have been riding motorcycle since i was 3 years old and have been racing in 125 and 250 road production class for the last 8. After reading what is going to happen to people before they can get there motorbike licence, ithink is just stupid. Why make people wait till they have had a car licence for 1 year before they can even go for there bike learners?

    Anyway if u pen pushers in government want to help improve the road toll you should really sit down and read throught the cr*p that you are inforcing. Every person wants to speed and test there car or bike out u cant stop that no matter how hard u try. I think you should really consider speeding a few dollars on building proper and safe places for people to speed and test there car or bikes out. As i race bikes i know that a track or drag stip is alot safer if something goes wrong, so why not build some more places for young people to hang out and be able to speed and drift and drag in a safe well supervised place that is afordable and fun. As i know after going 240kph down the back stright and draging the knee along the grond at 160kph at Queensland raceway speeding on the raod just feels like shit and very dangerous. All you desk freaks in government should really get out and go to some of these places and really talk to the people that drive and ride on the track and on the road and maybe give it a go your self in your car and see just how fun and safe speeding can be.

  • Callum

    Even if i got my P’s before the 1st of July i still have to follow these rules? Having P plates and not driving high powered cars etc…..

  • Sam W

    i am currently 16 my birthday is on the 5th of march and i would be gettin my learners on the 5th of september, with these new laws coming in july do i get my learners then? and have to have them for a year making me older then 17 to get my p’s. if this is the case then it is unfair i believe. i wouldnt mind if i got them in july and still could go for my p’s in march when im 17.

    or will i just be on the old laws?

    also that motor bike rule not allowing us to have them after me get out car p’s really does stink. what if i wanted to before my car licence?

    if i was to be on the old laws will the motorbike law still be inplace?? i sencerely hope not as i am a very keen dirt bike rider and would love to have the freedom to ride to places on the road.

    it would be great if someone could answer there questions for me. sending them to my email would be good

    cheers

  • Sam™

    ITS SIMPLE FOLKS

    GET YOUR PROVISIONAL LICENSE AFTER JULY 1 2007 AND YOU ARE UNDER THE NEW RULES

    regardless of when you were born or when/how long you got your leaners

    new rules are a kneejerk in my opinion, defensive driver training is whats needed

  • Sam W

    if anyone knows the answers to my questions my email adress is yamaha_mx_530@hotmail.com

    i would prefer someone to email them to me so i am shore to get the answer

    thanks

  • joshua

    well, all i can say is these new rules can get FUCKED
    if i want to drive a v8, then ill drive a v8 and if the cops say anything ill shuv it up there arsses.

  • wendy cassar

    i think that it was about time these new laws came in, i have a 19yr old still has a learners has over $1,000. in fines for no license driver and no L plates. and a son 17 nerely 18yrs got his license in September 2006 now driving on 1 yes one point for speeding fines . he liked to do 76kml in 60kml zones.

  • pissed off!!!

    and to wendy cassar its because of your sons that all of us have to suffer so fuking give urself an uppercut then fuking rape ur sons so they fuking get a bit of sense knocked into them

  • http://www.caradvice.com.au/722/queensland-driver-license-new-rules-curfews-and-12-month-learners/ kodey

    hey i think the laws are way to stricked for our young adults…
    i have had my P’s for about 8months now and just because a few stupod people have crashed dont mean we all have to pay…
    if i already have my P’s does this mean the laws will apply for me???

  • Steven

    FUCK THE NEW LAWS, THATS WHAT I SAY. THE FACT IS THAT YOU WILL NEVER STOP TEENS FROM SPEEDING AND BEING STUPID SO WHY NOT BUILD AND PROVIDE MORE SAFE PLACES LIKE QUEENSLAND RACEWAY WHERE WE CAN GO AND SPEED IN A SAFE PLACE INSTEAD OF HAVING TO DO IT ON THE ROADS? CAN ANYONE ANSWER THIS?

  • Sam™ the buck toothed bogan

    ^ agree with that, however the government thinks that reducing fast cars will miracly lower the death toll. apparently defensive driver training doesent do anything either?

    dont ban high performance cars, ban low performance drivers

  • Ben

    Is there anyone out there that is gonna read all this that give a shit about what we are saying? It seams to me that there is not one person in government that listens to teens, and to think they want us to listen to them and do what they say,makes me sick. So unfair is all i can say. Would love to see a good fight against government from us teens. We should all protest.

  • Sal

    I’m sorry but just because you all think you are bullet proof and old enough to rule the world at 16, 17 and 18 means none of you really no about driving politics or life so you all really need to face reality and understand that these rules and regulations are for your own safety and even if it does only save one or two teens a year then I thank them so why don’t you all think about the fact that many people out there have lost love ones from car/ road accidents and think about others and if you can’t then your not mature enough to go for your licence.

  • http://elfin Tony Soprano.

    Its good idea iand you come home too.

  • Adam

    Hi all. im 15, nearly 16 and im going to be affected with these laws. i can tell you know that these shit new laws that are going to come into affect for millions of teenagers is going to become a HUGE disarster for it will make them breack the laws more oftens or not even get a learners. plus why are they so against people under 25, its about experience people not fucking age, people over 25 are just as a danger as we are just like all the guys who make up all these stupid laws. why dont you all use your brains for once and think of what we are going to do with these new laws. i know where id like to to put.

  • Adam

    hey me again. why do all you in power always give a fuck about us when it comes to our lives but when it comes to what we feel, what we think, what we do and what we belive you say fuck you ur just another human in the world. huh you say we’re just tryin to save your life blah blah blah, what a load of crap you just want to be in control, in power, want to be able to tell someone something that they have to do or they get a fine. why dont you all accutly listen and take in what we say and feel instead of laughing in our faces and saying haha you cant do anything about this so screw you we dont care

  • Jess

    i agree with sal, anybody in here believing that these rule are out to hurt u, ur crazy and blinded by ur own stupidness.

    tho i also agree that defence driving courses should be count as hours, thats been over looked. and rules should apply to over25′s as well.

  • Camela

    These laws have been enforced in NSW for a while now. For those of you who honestly think these laws are ‘stupid’ ‘useless’ ‘dumb’ or what ever else you want to call them are a little on the uneducated side of things. In NSW learners can only drive a maximum of 80km’s EVER.. Red P’s (first year provisional) can only drive a maximum of 90km’s EVER… 2nd and 3rd year (green) p’s can only drive a maximum of 100km’s EVER. oh and they cant drive v6, v8, supercharged or turbos (excludes diesels). So you think having to log 100 hours, not being allowed to use a phone, cant drive a high performance or modified vehicle is bad HA I feel for those people who MUST drive at 80km’s on a 110km road! And don’t worry if you already have your license and a high performance or modified vehicle you can keep them, these laws only effect learners and Provisional licensees to be. These laws came into effect today regardless of what the 15, 16 and 17 year olds of QLD think. And you know why… you have to earn the right to drive

  • midget

    Re P Plates,
    I cannot believe the negative concerns re the new rules on P plates. Queensland drivers are fast becoming if not already the worst drivers. P Plates are there to help to protect these idiots on the roads, and I have only seen 1 p plate driver since july 1. Goes to show how arrogant these drivers are. not even displaying them. We came back from the gold coast on the M1 the other week, we were on the speed limit, but cars, trucks and 4 Wheel drives passed us as if we were standing still. If I ever see a accident and it involves a speeding driver that I have seen speeding, you can rot mate. It is about time Queensland drivers grew up. Just have a look at the accident every moring on our roads, because the idiots we have on the roads are in a hurry to get from a to b and sitting to close other words tailgating and they deserve all they get, but the thing is they involve innocent people, but they do not care. I bet they would care if it was their mother, father, brother or sister. Grow up Queensland. I am also interested in the speed limit for P platers.?

  • J

    pissedoff!!! – June 3rd

    LMAO, she needs to give herself an uppercut!! Funniest thing i’ve read in awhile..

    I only got my P’s the other week…
    I’ve had my (turbocharged) car since 1999, before the first set of vehicle restrictions came in…. it said that if I owned the vehicle before July 1st 2001 I am exempt… now it says before July 1st 2005!? Im sending off an exemption letter so I can drive it on my P’s ASAP…. I’ve driven the car for the lasy 6 years so they better let me be exempt from these stupid rules!

  • 300kw

    The RTA should put more effort into fixing our roads… that’s probably why people loose control of thier car.
    They need to stop wasting our tax payers money for ‘new rules’ that are absoulte crap!!!!!!

  • http://www.myspace.com/cutepinkblossom25 Megan Emily Jones

    I fricken hate the new laws, they are for fuckin babies and dumb asses!

  • Belinda

    I am a 30yr old mum and have held my learners for a year during which time I saved every spare penny for a car, I have had well, well over 100 hours driving experience. My licence expired in august, I renewed it 2 weeks later I have found out that I now have to hold it for another year, how absurd! How much driving experience do I need? I am 30 and don’t have a spare year of life to waste and I’m shore others don’t either, I’m furious, these laws are affecting everyone in a negative way not just the young. I am now hoping I can apply for an exemption, does anyone know if I can? Or perhaps done this. Thanks.

  • http://www.myspace.com/cutepinkblossom25 Megan Emily Jones

    Hi Belinda,

    You could go on to the official government transport website which is located at http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/ and search their site out but apart from that I don’t think I could be of much or better assistance to you, I fricken hate the new laws as well, they suck, I feel your pain, but good luck.

    Megan xoxo !!! …

  • more dead politicians

    nazi germany had freedom. queenie land doesnt. i’ve had my learners for eight years.

  • Henry

    What gets me is that if these laws completely fail to reducee te road toll, are they going to get rid of them?
    No probably not. Im pissed about the motorbike laws myself, riding a motorbike makes you an awesome car driver, because suddennly you have to start taking into account things like road surface and what other motorists are doing. What I would like to know is why QLD has to implement all these laws given that we only have like 115 or so people die in car accidents each year, how many people die from smoking? or drinking? and yet our healthcare system remains woefully inadequate. The laws need to be looked at by someone with the balls to say what needs to be done, rather then say what he thinks his boss wants to be done. Do you know that QLD transport says it takes 104m to pull up going at 90kph? I did i test on my motorbike the other day where i had a friend raise his hand up randomly and i would have to pull up, took me 49m. And its not like im on an awsome cafe racer either, its a 10 year old naked 250cc honda. The laws in this state are ridiculous.

  • ROB

    Hey… these new rules are stupid… its forcing us p platers to drive more dangerous cars..put it this way its not how fast the car is its what it has safety wise…. Lancer ES:front wheel drive = loss of control in wet condition. specially on roundabouts…

    lancer Evo:ALL WHEEL DRIVE = less chance of loosing control.

    also most of the young kids that have died on our roads have been in holden commodores 6CYLINDER cars so wots the go with this non turbo business. its just rediculas…
    its easy for the government in there company cars paying nothing for fuel telling us wots rite and wots wrong how about they just make the driving tests more strict and more advanced and stop telling us wots rite for a change. and drop the fuel prices while there at it.
    were teenagers we are at the age where we want to have fun when we get married we are goin to hav a mortgage and not be able to drive that v8 or turbo. so please drop the new rules and let us live.

  • Geoffrey

    what realy gets to me is that these charges for young drivers also affect other adults that where previously were not licenced , so we cop a log book too.

    This is totally unnessary to a person in their 40s that need a driver licence, and has to complete everty thing that a 16 year has too.

    And all the other states seem to be as strict as well

    Just need to get licenced

  • Brandon

    I hate these new laws so much too. I am a sixteen year old male with my learner’s and I reckon there is only a certain amount of hours that we need to do until we are confident and skilled enough to drive in all aspects such as congested zones, highways, changing lanes etc. I have done 30 so far and it is really getting annoying when i have an other 70 hours. I reckon old people need laws as well as they cause a lot of accidents too. You see them (not all of them but many) constantly braking when it is not needed, pull out of streets slowly, drive slowly and drive everywhere with their blinkers on. So they should really stop blaming us young ones.

    I believe they should make it that when you reach a certain age, maybe 60, then you need to retake a practical driving test (as well as medical test etc.) like I will have to when I am ready for my p’s to see if they still drive in good manner. I am also particular annoyed that I won’t be able to drive my modified Nissan SKyline 180SX because i have a turbo so I guess I’ll have to keep my revs down near coppers. It won’t matter anyways, they will pull me over regardless if I have a turbo or not because I’m driving that type of car. Its really quite sad, some little Getz could have some sort of turbo but yet they won’t pull it over.
    Anyways i have finished my rant ha ha. bye bye

  • Beth

    I’m a learner driver and have now done about 85 hours.

    At first I didn’t like the idea of having to do 100hrs and have my license for a whole year before I can go for my Ps. But I will admit, for once I think the QLD government actually did something right. My sister had the rules before me and my mum reckons she only did about 40 hours of driving in those six months because they didn’t have to record them.

    I feel I am a much more prepared and alert driver having done so many supervised hours and I think its a good idea though that they allow us to collect 10hrs as triple time (=30hrs) with a certified driving school.

    The only thing that really annoys me is the restriction on what cars we can drive because my mum’s car is an Audi A4 and I’m not allowed to drive that till I’m 25.

    But all-in-all I like the new rules and so do my friends.

    • Cameron

      Great Beth! Now can I have your number?
      :o P

  • Jazmyn

    Hmm, I’m going in for my general road rules test on Tuesday lmao, i’m pretty stressed out that I won’t pass but that goes for everyone. Just wondering how many questions are on the test ?

  • Chelle

    and for the 25′s and older like myself? what applies to us? just curious!

  • jono

    stupid rules
    stupid laws
    not every ones a hoon and most car deaths are people over 25
    this means a 24 year old cant even drive a new ve v6 commodore cause its got 210 kw
    now come on this is a joke
    ive got my opens but under 25 and im gonna buy me a nice turbo d import
    :p

  • Nath746

    What’s all the hype about? In Victoria, Learners under 25 have to have their learners for 2 years!!! the P1 and P2 rules apply, and diesel engines with 6 or less cylinders are exempt from the turbocharging rule. and all these qld’ers complaining about having their learners for 1 year… shame on you

  • http://regoloan.com.au Regoloan

    The only thing that really annoys me is the restriction on what cars we can drive because my mum’s car is an Audi A4 and I’m not allowed to drive that till I’m 25.thanks dear,,

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