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We’re high up in Tasmania’s alpine region and pushing hard in what is Volkswagen’s latest edition to its hot hatch arsenal.


It’s quick this Volkswagen Golf R, very quick, and it doesn’t seem to mind what you throw at it, twisty roads, hairpin bends or fast straights, Wolfsburg has given us an absolute cracker.

There’s nothing quite like the launch of a proper hot hatch to get the adrenalin pumping, especially when its Volkswagen’s answer to Audi’s brilliant Audi S3 hatchback, but at considerably less money.

The press invite didn’t say a lot, but then again, it didn’t need to. “Only for the genuine enthusiast” was the call to action, and this was one drive program I was quick to put my hand up for, even if it meant climbing over my colleagues for the right to attend. This is one car we’ve all been waiting for.

Faster, lighter, and more powerful than the highly accomplished Golf R32, which it replaces, the Golf R is the new flagship model in the range and after 300 kilometres behind the wheel, I’ve got nothing but praise for what is simply an outstanding performance drive.

Gone is the aurally delicious 3.2-litre naturally aspirated V6 and in its place is the same 2-litre turbocharged four-cylinder, which you’ll find under the bonnet of Audi’s S3 super hatch.

It’s a compact engine packing a big punch with 188 kW and 330Nm of torque, and capable of knocking off the benchmark 0-100km/h sprint in as little as 5.7 seconds, with the optional Direct-Shift Gearbox.

To put that into some perspective, the R32, despite its reputation as a quick steer (it still is), was only good for a 6.2 second sprint in DSG form.

To be fair and honest though, the V6 under load was an aural treat for any enthusiasts and punters alike, whereas the high-pressure boosted four-cylinder powerplant  in the Golf R, doesn’t quite play the same racecar like tune, but it’s certainly no deal breaker given the car’s blistering all-round performance.

There are those that believe the GTI’s styling is too soft and not befitting of its sports pedigree, but there can be no such conclusion when it comes to the Golf R.

The two centrally mounted exhaust tips carried over from the R32 are a good size diameter and the car’s 25mm lower ride height fits the hot hatch bill to a tee. True to form though, the only nameplate on the car is a small chrome ‘R’ insignia on grille and tailgate and frankly, that’s all that’s required here.

The gloss black louvers on the deep front splitter and side mirror panels are a nice touch although, some folks will miss the aluminium look on the R32 and S3 cars. The stock standard five-spoke alloys are a good look, but the optional Talladega 19-inch black wheels, which I caught a glimpse of on a silver R20, would seem like a must have in that particular colourway.

For $48,490 you get the three-door Golf R with a six-speed manual box, which is precisely the car we’ve ended up with for this test drive route. It’s the entry-level variant but with two very special options, Motorsport Front Seats and Adaptive Chassis Control.

While there’s little to complain about with Volkswagen’s super quick shifting Direct Shift Gearbox, the standard fit manual gearbox employed on this car, would have to be one of the smoothest shifting units I’ve ever experienced and an absolute treat.

There’s no proximity key or push button start for the Golf R, just the old school key fob and steering column mounted barrel, which is strangely refreshing. I guess one can assume that any saving in that department has been duly transferred to the performance area.

There’s a tonne of ‘go’ when you punch the accelerator and absolutely no let up all the way through to the redline. We can thank the extra wide torque curve, which delivers the peak 330 Newton-metres from 2400 rpm to 5200 rpm.

Power delivery as well as the turbo boost is smooth and effortless, with all six gear ratios pulling hard across the entire rev range. Turbo lag is not discernible, at least, not with this six-speed manual edition.

While it’s quite a relaxed, if not docile car to drive in the city, Golf R is a car that begs to be driven with purpose and rewards the driver in spades for doing so.

If you’re concerned about a lack of engine note from the four-cylinder turbo set up, don’t be. Once on song, there’s a sweet low down growl from under the bonnet, and more than enough to satisfy those R32 diehards.

That said I doubt you’ll miss the extra weight of the V6 motor up front, the benefits of which, you can immediately feel once you start carving up the tight bends in Tasmania’s extra twisty alpine region.

The Golf R can carry tremendous speed through corners, and grip levels on relatively dry tarmac are vice like.

Front wheel spin under hard acceleration from standstill has been all but dialed out and in extreme cases, 100 percent of torque will revert to the rear axle, meaning some very quick off the line starts are possible.

While there is a tendency for the front wheels to ‘push out’ when under heavy load through a fast corner, that’s probably more down to me, not selecting the ‘Sport’ mode with the Adaptive Chassis Control system, rather than the 4Motion all-wheel drive set up, which has been further developed for this car.

Good thing that too because one minute the weather was cold and sunny, and in the next, we were driving through a light/medium snowfall with a ‘black ice’ warning.

Despite the slippery conditions for over 40 kilometres across a mixture of both dirt and wet tarmac, there was little or no loss of traction on either surface.

What was also remarkable after several hundred kilometers behind the wheel, is the quality ride and ultra low NVH levels inside the cabin. With such exceptional handling you might expect a noticeable compromise between performance and ride quality, but that’s not the case with this car.

It’s only slightly stiffer than a Golf GTI, yet packs a noticeably heavier punch and regardless of the type of road surface or how hard you push, the suspension remains remarkably compliant.

You can’t fault the steering set up on the ‘R’ car either, turn in is sharp and responsive, and it goes precisely where you point it.

Put that down to the electro-mechanical power steering unit, which has been re-tuned specifically for this car, irrespective of whether you choose optional Adaptive Chassis Control or not.

Less praiseworthy are the ridiculously expensive ‘Motorsport’ style front seats in ‘San Remo’ microfibre. These beautifully crafted and superbly comfortable pews will set you back a whopping $5,300 and while they certainly look the part with a piano black style racing shell design, there is simply not enough seat or side bolster to properly hold the driver secure enough while powering through the twisty roads with a heavy dose of throttle. Again, let me stress the fact that they are very comfortable but I’m looking for more here.

With the upgraded power of the Golf R, special attention has been paid to the brakes, which are internally ventilated all round and unusually large for this class of car. The front discs are 345mm while 310mm makes do at the rear. Although the ambient temperature during part of the drive was a cool zero degrees, there was absolutely no brake fade after repeated use in countless hairpins.  They are also more than capable of hauling in prodigious speed in double quick time.

For all the performance the Golf R offers, the inside story is one of luxury and comfort, with a host of standard features and the usual quality materials and switchgear, we’ve come to expect from Volkswagen.

While we didn’t get to sample the Golf R with DSG or employ the car as the family chariot for a week, CarAdvice will bring you a complete road test of Golf’s halo car in the coming weeks.

Driven: Volkswagen Golf R 3 Door 6 Speed Manual – $48,490

Also available:

  • Golf R 3 Door 6 Speed DSG –              $50,990
  • Golf R 5 Door 6 Speed manual –         $49,990
  • Golf R 5 Door 6 Speed DSG –              $52,490

 

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  • Damian

    This thing is a bargain compared to the Audi S3, which is basically the same car. It’s pretty well equipped and oozes sophistication (unlike the boy racer image one gets when driving a WRX STI or EVO). Those optional seats look nice, but are way too pricey, unfortunately.

    • Simon

      I Agree! The WRX will still beat this thing in outright performance, and is a relatively cheap proposition at $13000 less but hardly a question as to which I’d rather be driving.

    • John

      Not sure about it being simply cheaper and thus feature for feature much better than the S3. I think there are differences between the Haldex vs Quattro set ups on the R vs S3. Owning a Bora V6 with the Haldex controller upgrade and having driven both at speed (slalom), I think the Quattro is just that little smoother and composed.

      Would like CA to do a head to head on both – I think the S3 might edge out the R?

      • Damian

        That’s a really good point, John. However, most of the reviews I’ve read claim the Golf R shares the S3 drivetrain, and I assume this includes the Quattro system. Either way, it’s probably “much of a muchness” so to speak, since both punters will have to get real illegal on the roads to quantify any performance difference between the Audi and VW.

        Just to reiterate how much of a bargain the Golf R is, the UK allocation of 350 cars has been sold out, despite the Golf R costing 2000 Pounds more than the S3. Crazy…

        If the success of the GTI is anything to go by, the Golf R will redefine high volume sales for VW. Hopefully, VW’s success will prompt Ford to import the Focus RS.

        • John

          You may be right Damian in which case the R would represent excellent value. Audi should not call it Quattro if it does not have the Torsen diff setup – very misleading. I changed the controller on my Bora to give me more rear wheel bias, as I found the original setup too FWD biased. With the change it goes like a slingshot out of a corner.

          Wonder if VW dealers will have a demo R for a drive. They were generous enough to give me the Bora for a day to try out.

          • http://www.AUSmotive.com Liam

            The Golf R and current S3 share the same Haldex IV system. The same set up is also used in the TT RS etc.

    • Jester

      As long as we have idiotic car dealers selling a 48K cars for 63K on the road we will never sell more than a handful of great cars – this ripoff madness really needs to stop:

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      Vehicle 2010 VOLKSWAGEN GOLF VI MY10 R 4-MOTION
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      Transmission 6 speed Manual
      Body 3 door 5 seat HATCHBACK

  • herc

    The R32 in DSG form actually only takes 6.2 sec 0-100kph (6.5 sec for the manual box) according to official figures. It also required a second upchange from 2nd gear to 3rd gear at around 93-96kph which also extended the 0-100kph time by a couple of tenths. I’m not sure if this is the case of the new Golf R, as it is only 4 KW more powerful and only around 30kg lighter than the R32. So the 0.5 sec gain may be partly due to a meddling of the gear ratios to not warrant the extra shift to get to 100kph so better magazine numbers can be posted.

    Anyway, the car isn’t about the numbers. It’s a great total package and at the lower price I can’t think of a better value premium hot hatch. The R32 will be missed though. Best sounding car below $100,000. Can’t wait to see what they do with the Mark VII which should come earlier than it took for the Mark 6.

    • go away

      sounds like you spend too much time reading the numbers herc, in fact all you have done is recite numbers youve read in the article.

    • Simon

      I’d be guessing the torque spread is probably wider and slightly higher (320 vs 330NM peak)which would mostly be responsible for the faster acceleration.

      • Daniel

        Theres a video on you-tube done by some British mob and they could only get 100kmh in 3rd.

      • Denzo

        Thank you, Turbo!

  • http://mymaties.com VDub Fan

    Sweet. Little more power would’ve been nice though.

    • Golfschwein

      Why?

      • Daniel

        Euro Spec gets 199kw =(

    • JooberGTi

      Power, drop in an APR chip and it will get you to 240kw and excess of 400nm of torque, no doubt this car is dumbed down in potential but 99% of buyers out there wouldn’t know what to do with the power.

      • Denzo

        No you want. Try 30KW at best. They have been dynoed. On a real dyno and proven. Not a “happy” dyno that APR use to sell bullshit. One size fits all right?

        Ask your girlfriend!

  • Stoney!

    Handling aside, if they dropped the 3.6 VR6 in the golf, I’d buy one tomorrow.

    I just found the sound of the R boring in comparison…

    Stoney!

    • Simon

      I don’t think it would fit and it would also upset the dynamics having so much more mass at the front end.

      • Reckless1

        Err- Simon, the 3.6 is a drop in replacement for the 3.2 as far as engine bulk and dimensions are concerned.

        There are plenty of examples of R32s with an R36 transplant, and quite a few with a turbo kit as well, giving around 600hp…….

        • Simon

          Thanks Reckless, you are right.
          On further reading, it’s still a VR6 engine. I love that head design! I have seen a writeup of the 3.6 with turbo from europe – talk about serious power!

  • Alfanumeric

    “Less praiseworthy are the ridiculously expensive ‘Motorsport’ style front seats in ‘San Remo’ microfibre.

    …there is simply not enough seat or side bolster to properly hold the driver secure enough while powering through the twisty roads”

    Are you saying that just to be controversial? I had a sit in a couple of Golf Rs at my local dealer last weekend (one with the Motorsport seat, one with the standard seat), and the motorsport seat was more deeply bolstered and way more supportive than the standard one.

    It’s an expensive option, sure, but if you plan to do a lot of trackdays (which you should with this car) I reckon it’d be money well spent.

    • Fenno

      It all depends on how fat one is.
      Slim drivers will agree with Anthonys conclusion on the seat.

      • Alfanumeric

        I’m no whale either. In fact, I’m on the skinny side of the scale and I didn’t find the seat loose at all. I haven’t seen a photo of Mr Crawford, but if he’s any skinnier than me he should probably see a doctor!

        Oh and Mal, the piano-black seatbacks look much better in real life!

    • Steven

      Recaros are never cheap! They are some of the most comfortable seats in the world though.

      I wish Subaru would make the Impreza STi spec.R seats available to all cars. I’d have them in an instant.

  • Mal

    I hope that black finish on the seat backs looks better in real life. Looks kinda nasty in those photos. Still, a nice car and surprisingly cheap compared to the R32.

  • Neo Utopia

    The seats could have colour coordinated stitching or something in their to liven it up a bit, like the Lamborghinis, but I’m sure Lambo wouldn’t like that copy.

    Doesn’t have the original X factor like the GTI, but given time it will become somewhat of a cult and have modifiers tinkering with it, just like the R’s predecessor the VR6 of the 1990s.

    But a pretty dam fine car, particularly in white with the optional black 19 inch rims. Better than an Evo or STI? No, because it’s in a class where the best driving is done just under the limit, not at the limit on hard core track days.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1435885244 Yani Hendriawan

    i really like the front seats but man are they expensive

    • http://NSSAN James Cortez

      Yes because they rip you off in Australia. If you buy one in states / canada then they are reasonable

  • ox

    Should come with a W8, now that would be special

  • Tom22

    Up until now a SS or XR6t is the only car i would even CONSIDER for this type of money, the WRX is too cheap and ugly and the Lancer Ralliart is well… yeah.

    This is finally a car that offers everything, plenty of performance, plenty of tunability, amazing styling, AWD, a brilliant interior and superb build quality.

    It would be a good car for 60k, at 48k it is an absolute bargain.

    • Denzo

      Good luck getting one for $48K. Mine was $60K and I got $8000 off.

    • Simon

      Don’t forget dealer delivery and on-roads – all add up quickly!

    • Nezmo

      i bought mine recently. 5 door though. the price brand new with all the toys i got in it was $74k. as a demo it went for $63k. theyre not cheap at all

      • http://NSSAN James Cortez

        VW really rip you guys off!!. This car in the States / Canada / UK cost less than The new Volvo S60 with 2 liter turbo, but when they come downunder it cost more and the public are “swindled” but ye they still buy VW’s product. Perhaps y’all should boycott buying vee dub.

  • AJ

    Nice car, but still expensive.

    Look on car sales, they start at $62k drive away. (with DSG)

    And there is one optioned up listed at $69k.

    Of course they will come down in price, but its still alot of cash for a Golf.

    • The Realist

      The question becomes why one would not get a 135i…

      • Damian

        Because the 135i starts at $72,000 WITHOUT options. An optioned up 135i can easily blow out to $90k. You have to start comparing apples with apples…

        • The Realist

          Actually, you could probably get a well specced demo for $80K. So $65K for a VW or $80K for a BMW. The BMW is better in almost every way.

      • Golfschwein

        Rear wheel drive and no rear room, just for starters.

    • JooberGTi

      Check out discount new cars website 5 door DSG around the 57k mark

    • Damian

      It’s still a Golf aethetics wise, but it’s a completely different beast to drive. Now the only question is whether the Golf GTI will drop in price? An optioned up Golf GTI with sunroof, leather, sat nav, and xenons will cost in excess of $50k. That’s solid Golf R money.

  • Jonno Smith

    Maybe CARADVICE could do a comparison test ($40k to $48k range) with the following cars:-
    1. VW Golf R 3 door + 6 speed manual (base spec)
    2. Mitsubishi Lancer Ralliart + Dual Clutch Gearbox
    3. Subaru Impreza WRX + 5 speed manual

    Also, do another comparo ($57k – $70k range) with these following cars:-
    1. VW Golf R 5 door + DSG (full options – Seats/ACC)
    2. Mitusubishi EVO X MR + Dual Clutch Gearbox
    3. Subaru Impreza STI R Spec + 6 speed manual

    It would be highly interesting to see the outcome of these 2 tests. I would be very keen with the findings of the 1st group as their pricing is within my means. The 2nd grouping is to evaluate whether Golf R has got what it takes to take on these 2 hardcore cars (Evo/STI).

  • Steve-Poyza

    Just wait until the new RS Mégane gets it’s now smaller ass over here. Its gonna show the Golf R who is boss! Can’t wait for September.

  • Flying High

    “There are those that believe the GTI’s styling is too soft and not quite befitting of its sports pedigree, but there can be no such thinking when it comes to the Golf R.”

    You are kidding right Anthony? Might go like the clappers but it still looks like my girlfriends car. VW need to call body kits ‘r’ us.

    • Golfschwein

      I think it’s perfect and body kits are best left to…ah…another demographic.

      • Denzo

        Exactly. Its not trying to be a car to look at in that way. Its all driver, baby.

      • Flying High

        Your implications to ‘a demographic’ are baseless

        Even the top supercars in the world come with bodykits or
        have aftermarket body kits available to enhance the visual appeal of the car. Imagine a Porchae GT3 that came out looking as lame as Boxster? Sure it will go, but it would have much less appeal

        This car looks boring and has all the agression of a smiling big eyed puppy.

  • Golfschwein

    It has everything you’re looking for as it is: unique front and rear bumpers (surely you don’t want them to look bigger), a roof spoiler and side skirts so skilfully integrated that the Toyota Sportivo boys are taking notes already.

    I can’t think of what else wou…..WAIT! Lamborghini Diablo side strakes stuck on the rear doors? There’s the different demographic I wrote of. If that’s what someone wants out of this, then that someone isn’t going to want one of these, and that’s a win-win all round.

  • Tradie

    3 door & 5 door…. wheres the wagon???

  • Neo Utopia

    We all know Volkswagen are trying to pursue the WRX and EVO Market with the Golf R. From what I have read in overseas reviews so far is that the R plays it a bit safer in regards to the ESP activating a little earlier whilst driving at the limit and the revolution limiter preventing going into the red zone.

    So what this car is then is that it’s a car for people who want to hologan around in a quality disguise whilst being reassured with safety gizmos and comfort to try and keep them within the limit and thereby keeping one’s adrenaline within a civilized level.

  • herc

    With what Mitsu and Subaru are doing with their WRX and Evo over the past decade though, you’d think it was the other way around.

  • macca

    in regards to comparisons with Subaru and Mitsubishi, let me just say (as a WRX owner) I would have never thought I would have even walked into a VW dealership; yesterday I did just that to check out the new Golf R. this car is going to take so many sales away from STi’s and EVO’s it’s not going to be funny. STi will be especially affected, without a DSG option, and a significantly higher list price.

    VW have absolutely nailed it; DSG, AWD, class-leading fuel efficiency, very nice interior/exterior, and an unbelievable starting price. The Golf R is my new favourite, and trust me I’m not easily swayed. Sayonara Subaru! – and no, even the standard 5 spd auto due in the future won’t cut it on an STi. this Golf R is so sharply priced it’ll even take sales away from the Audi S3.

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  • Neo Utopia

    Why on earth do people receive thumbs down if the commentor makes valid statements? Crazy.

    I too think this car will persuade people from the WRX and STI, even perhaps the MPS premium model, but probably not much from the Evo and RX8 Market.

    • derek

      You might be wrong with that. The lease on my RX-8 is coming up for renew, and I’ve already put down an order for a manual Golf R.

  • HPSOV

    Had my Golf R for 4 days having spent the last 7 years in WRX’s (MY03 and MY08). I will never be going back. The R gives you WRX performance with refinement and luxury. Handling feels better, grip feels better and ride quality with ACC is incredible.
    The R certainly wont be competing with an STi for outright performance, but it will give WRX’s a run for their money. The DSG is amazing too.

    • Jester

      Guess a 10-15K price premium over a WRX gives you nicer seats and better NVH characteristics.

      • macca

        Can also look at it as being a 10-15K price reduction from an STi, especially those wanting a DSG.

      • Denzo

        Cant compare it to a base WRX, Definitely only can compare it to a STI, out of the Subaru stable.

        An R when you option it with a few things can hit $70K very quickly. Thats EVO/STI money. Not WRX/Ralliart money by a LONG SHOT.

        Also, see the new motor mag for the R vs EVO.. the EVO X is 0.07 faster to 100km/h.
        EVO= 0-100km in 5.30 and 13.56 1/4 mile
        R = 0-100km in 5.37 and 13.65 1/4 mile

        R leaves it in the dust for build quality and finish, though. All this and its made in Germany.

        I smell performance car of the year.

  • sooty

    Get the manual one, it’s much better than the DSG.
    the dsg box has way too many problems.
    in D mode it shifts to the upper gear to early
    and in s mode it revs too high.

    it’s jerky taking off as well. problems with mechtronics etc. this is speaking from experience b/c i current drive a dsg golf gti vi, i made the biggest mistake and now i’m stuck with it.

    i’ve also driven the manual golf R and if i were in the market for one, it’s definitely the one to buy

    • Tom PL

      Mine has a DSG and none of the problems described occured. Never. And I am pretty sure if you would have driven the DSG powered car for a while, you’d never switched back to a manual. It’s waaaaay faster and very comfortable.

      Kick down is something you could rule after 2-3 weeks of driving. I do and really enjoy it :-)

  • Neo Utopia

    I agree, the manual would be more satisfying to play with, in the short of way a good steel string acoustic guitar feels over an electric with a emulating acoustic pickup, it just seems more suited to the type of car. Thats just in my own opinion of course.

  • coreying

    I hate to say this but yes the manual gearbox is better than the DSG in the R. yes the dsg is faster but it’s not involving. there are problems with it as well, hopefully vwa will sort it out soon.

  • GOLFRman

    i got a quote for a manual one with acc, sat nag, bluetooth for 56k drive away which i think i is a fantastic deal. only problem is the wait, they said it’ll be here in nov/dec
    anyone interested in one contact Mikkel at mcgrath liverpool

  • Jonno Smith

    Did background research on the Golf R’s Haldex AWD system. From those resources, it is an electronic based AWD system similar to SUV soft roader’s systems. It’s predominately FWD (or RWD – depending on car’s set-up) for the Golf R’s case. Default-wise, the Golf R has 97.5%/2.5% torque split between front and rear. When front wheels slippage are detected by sensors, up to 100% power is then channeled to the rear wheels. This AWD system is termed as ‘on-demand’ AWD. However, it’s not a true performance AWD system like what we see in WRC rallies.
    Subaru and Mitsubishi’s AWD system are termed as ‘constant’ or ‘full-time’ AWD. In most cases, 50/50 constant torque split between front & rear (for WRX’s case), with electronic trickery, varying split ratios are possible with Lancer Ralliarts & Evolutions. Theoretically, grip levels for ‘full-time’ AWD cars are much higher at all times on the road in all conditions. These are true performance AWD systems.
    Perhaps, Caradvice could do a group test between these cars (including wet and dry skid pad testing) and let readers know the truth! Originally, I thought the Golf R was a direct competitor to Impreza WRX and Lancer Ralliart. But now, I’m not so sure!

    • RBH

      To say that Haldex can channel 100% of power to the rear wheels is stretching it. All Haldex can do is front/rear lockup. If the front wheels lost traction completely you could argue that the rear wheels were getting 100% of the power, but the front wheels would be uselessly spinning at the same speed as the rears. Under most conditions the car will be FWD. During agressive driving you will get up to a 50/50 front/rear split. Anybody suggesting Haldex is capable of rear-wheel bias really doesn’t understand how it works.

    • Denzo

      I dont think that because the AWD is full time it means anything/everything. I mean think Nissan GTR – this is RWD most of the time and AWD on take off.

      Thats considered one of the fastest production cars in history.

    • Luke Brinsmead

      Jonno, the Golf R has this drivetrain to to meet future Euro emission standards, less fuel is needed to turn most just 2 wheels for the majority of driving time than compared to 4 like the others you mentioned. But if those standards don’t come to Australia in the foreseeable future then the Evo and STI will fulfil the hardcore purist out there for a quite a while, and the R will be for slightly less enthusiastic drivers.

  • Ezigreen

    I’ve had 2 WRX’s & just sold a fully optioned R32 in anticipation of an early December delivery of a fully optioned R, the R32 was a delight to drive every day & still fun for a track day. I looked at a S3 & S4 & could not justify either for value compared with the R. The WRX & EVO are simply too hard to live with daily, the 135 only has 2 doors & no back leg room. You cannot go past the R for build quality, performance & all round liveability.

    • John

      Did you order DSG?

  • coreying

    you can get a current s3 for 62k brand new with quite a few options. Also there is apparently a 6month wait on the R

  • Grumpy01

    Should be getting my bog stock (other than MDI) R five door this afternoon….really looking forward to it after a stint in a touareg. The Treg was a great family car – just not as much fun….

  • Barry

    How anybody can compare the “driving” characteristics of a hairdresser’s car with a performance car is beyond me.

    I have (and still do) owned performance vehicles for many years and the smile i get from how a car looks and its comfort quickly fades.

    However a performance car with true cornering abilities in all conditions always keeps me smiling.

    That said its not my money that is being spent so who am i to question hairdresser’s car choices.

    PS can’t wait to drive home with a big smile from the train station in my noisy, plastic interior performance car.

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  • chugs

    i wouldn’t mind buying a VW vehicle, be it an R or GTI, or whatever to be honest but what shits me is the waiting list. Waiting, waiting waiting. Waiting at the dealers (went three times before I even got to see someone), waiting for stock, waiting for dealers to get off their egos…..

    VW may make a good car but far as I’m concerned their dealers and stock control is shit.

  • Rsa

    Haldex I & II were max 50/50 split because it was a purely mechanical lockup.  Haldex III introduced a computer controlled electronic clutch so there is a theoretical 0/100 RWD transfer of power, although in reality the system is tuned for 10/90 or 15/85 max.

  • Turbodewd

    60 grand for a German Corolla?!  Almost as bad as the RX8!

  • Turbodewd

    60 grand for a German Corolla?!  Almost as bad as the RX8!