Great car, love these things on the road. My favourite Japanese car.
“plasma coating and all’ – please CA, plasma coatings and similarly named proprietary coatings have been used om sportsbikes like Yamaha R1 and Suzki GSX-R series for 10+ years, I’m pretty sure nobody will have issues with rebuilding VR38DETT in 10 years time, it will be just another old engine that needs a stroker kit and more boost to refresh it 😉
Great article, I really enjoyed it.
What a truly awe-inspiring car.
Going for a drive with the gtr test driver would be a absalute hoot.Whish i could have gone, gee whish i could buy one full stop
Great Article AF. One question…. Was there any lap time set on the Phillip Island track by the test drivers?
Thanks. As the weather was so bad, any lap times set weren’t really accurate representation of the car’s ability.
It may be affordable to buy but I heard that it is very expensive to run. I believe servicing,tyres and parts are horrendously expensive? Can you tell us what the cost for a owner over a couple of years? What is the depreciation on these cars?
Supercar performance, supercar upkeep. Although I wouldn’t be surprised that after all the hype dies away it’s just like working on a Pulsar, just another car, but parts and lubricants will cost a fortune though, plus insurance.
With the plasma lined cylinder heads, unlikely. A pulsar is a very cheap, very basic vehicle, this will always have a extremely expensive (and fragile) gearbox, and it will always have active yaw sensors that control the awd system to determine which wheel has the most torque, and it will always have a twin turbocharged engine with an ECU that is programmed to stop you modifying it and put the car into lockdown mode.
The r35 will never take common modifying scene like the 32-34 did.
Fragile gearbox?? I can bet any production car with AWD & 1800kg, putting out that torque and with an aggressive launch control like the Gtr originally had would have had the same issues with the gearbox or burnt clutches!
911 turbo’s wern’t voiding warranties for launch control. Porsche encourages people to use launch control on the twin clutch gearbox’s (which will run 0-100kmh in 2.9 seconds on the MY11 911 turbos)
That extra $150k saving on the Gtr can buy you all the extra warranty and performance work to blitz the MY11 Porsche too, couldn’t it?
Ps: Where does “Porsche encourage people to use launch control”? The Gtr has had its launch control recalibrated with no more issues! The old system did not cater for idiot rich boys with no idea about mechanical sympathy!
2.9secs is a bit exaggerated isn’t it? I thought it was around 3.3sec?
GT-R is just another car – plasma coatings is nothing new, as I said it has been used on many models of cars and motorbikes over the last 10+ years, no magic about it. MY10 and MY11 have new sequence for launching from the line – and they do not void warranties so just stop spilling junk on these pages and learn a thing or two about the car TomJ.
Falcon Driver, oh no doubt its very expensive to run. This isn’t a car for people who are trying to live beyond their means, if thats the case, stick to the HSV and FPV products, this is a car that is almost as fast as a 911 turbo for half the coin.
I must admin, when the GTR first came out i hated it. Mostly because i felt the need to counter act the immense hype. Now, the styling grown on me, like anything with a quick rise to fame, the haters have come out to bash it, and i really don’t mind the car. When you see it in person it looks great, its incredibly fast and most of us might have a chance one day if luck goes our way of actually affording one.
Good job Nissan, i wish more Japanese manufacturers were like you (im looking at you Honda and Toyota).
Great article, so the great car
If you have had one much you at the lights, and have been fortunate enough to have your window down at the time, you will understand the hype. I somehow always pull up next to a red one as i get to the Train station, and it sounds, looks, and feels awesome. Some people say a car cannot have a soul, but this one has the soul of a samurai. You just fell that if it dishonored you by doing something as stupid rolling in corners, it would pick up a katana and commit Sepuku.
Long Live the GTR, King of the ‘Ring
Huge rep and the ability to back it up. Proven cred.
I respect this car as a technical masterpiece, an engineering achievement and a win for automotive ingenuity. But I would still save my money for a Porsche or an Italian supercar. Soul, that indefatigable x factor cannot be ignored.
The “it doesn’t have the soul of an Aston/Porsche/Ferrari” line is invariably the putdown for the GTR, although it usually comes from people who don’t have the money to own either. I *have* heard it from a couple of people who *do* own Porsches, but them I put down to protecting the mystique of their expensive cars Most auto journos I respect give the GTR a big wrap, and that’s good enough for me.
The other line tends to be that it’s too easy and composed to drive compared to a Ferrari or whatnot. Speaking as someone who doesn’t pretend to be an F1 driver, I don’t think there’s any marks in making it easier for me to lose control at speed on a wet road… have the same thought every time a top-handling sports car gets marked down by people for handling being TOO composed. And that’s coming from someone who would buy an Elise ahead of a 370Z…
I want to hate this car but just can’t…It does nothing wrong.
Wouldn’t you just love to see these cars back at Bathurst and the other major tracks, making our local V8’s look like what they really are – souped up taxis?
Nothing wrong with taxi racing – except when you throw a real car amongst ’em.
Nice review guys, I’m jealous. C’mon, what was the lap time?
Just a quick correction, the history actually goes back a bit further than the KPGC110, there was a model before it, the PGC10 and KPGC10 or ‘hakosuka’ (boxy skyline) Google it, an amazing car that felled the all-conquering Porsches when they tried to conquest Japan in the late ’60s and early ’70s. The Nissan V Porsche battle goes back a lot further than the ’90s.
Fantastic cars, I just wish they sounded a bit better! Last year at the targa west (won by a gtr) was the fisrt time I got to see one driven in anger. It flew round the corner we were spectating from like it was on rails, but all that called be heard was a very quiet, rather uninspiring drone. Two cars later, a 911 gt3 came screaming past. It may have been slower, but it certainly looked like a lot more fun!
Lets hope nissan give this supercar a true supercar soundtrack for the next update.
An awe-inspiring car that one can sit around talking about for ages 😀 What a Beast!!
Thanks for the great article 😉
Fantastic article, thank you. The Nissan GTR just keeps getting better and many of us knew that, but this new car is spectacular!
So Mr. Fallah, I’m surprised you know about Gundams!
Can i offer a counter opinion for sakes sake?
Too big heavy and fast for the street, you will never use the potential of this car on the street. Yet it is too heavy for a track car, it huge weight will run through tires and brake pads very quickly, especially compared to something like a Corvette ZR1, or a 911 GT2…
Can i also offer a counter argument to your counter argument. Will not the ZR1 immense torque chew up those rear tires, and wont it drink fuel at double the rate of the GTR. And also the Safety of AWD in this car. As for the Porsche, it is a very suitable track car, but where will you get to use its potential speed on the road. I am not criticising you or the cars in question, just saying that the GTR has proved itself time and time again, Weight, tires and size taken into account.
Lets not forget a ZR1 is a 620hp car compared to the Nissans 480hp. Its a significantly more powerful engine. And actually, i would be willing to bet a Z06 Corvette would use less fuel in the real world than a GTR, you can get sub 10L/100km on the highway out of those things.
And no, if controlled on a race track a ZR1’s will not destroy its rear tires, are you really trying to point out the fact the Chevrolet has significantly more power as a negative point?
Ill tell you one thing, its carbon ceramic breaks wont fade and overheat as fast as the Nissans will, especially considering the latter is carrying an extra 400kg of weight.
I never mentioned power. I said the torque would, and i also mentioned fuel consumption. As stated before, the Nissan can do all that the Porsche and Corvette can do with significantly less power, and much more wight on board. And i can truthfully state that a GTR is very easy to handle on a track. I ask you have you seen all the reviews of a ZR1 on a track. Even with all the “controls” on it still slides out of control. I know if i had to choose i would take a ZR1 because i am a GM fan, but im just trying to say no matter how much you criticise the GTR it can do well and above its weight.
Well said Shak, its just that the Porsche boys cannot give credit where it is due!
TomJ, I know of a certain Porsche owner that drives on street and track days with replacement regular brakes because of the cost of wearing out the carbon ceramic brakes will buy him a brand new daily car!
Do you have any proof that the Nissans brakes cannot hold their weight against the carbon ceramics? The Gtr brakes are pretty serious gear as well!
i remember this one time i saw one so i followed it (in a yaris) and it went through this round about so quickly for suck a big and heavy car, i was just like bs! i go through this round about all the time and i thought it was pretty much impossible to go through it in such a big, long heavy car.
then the driver pulled over and i was like crap what do i do now… so i just kept driving
had my 5 minutes in gtr.
fantastic sounds.deep exhaust note,whirring transmission/driveline sounds.great seats.then bang,head smashes into head restraint,1st,2nd,3rd.couldn’t pry my head off it.think 4 times more force than most aussie v8’s.insane cornering speeds.brakes make your eyeballs fall out.i know my the guy from top gear didn’t last a lap in it…
I always thought it looked uninspiring and ugly from photos but I saw one the other day parked outside a hotel next to insane porsches and a merc drop top…and the GTR (in black) definitely looked the most Darth Vader outta them all.
I was surprised at how mean and aggressive it looked it real life. And it’s huge too! Alot bigger to what I imagined, but in a good way.
The supercar for the rest of us. Robotic in appearance, familiar with the well-to-do playstation generation.
Saw one out at the Scenic Rim (south west of Brisbane) last year, was the first time I’d admired a Datsun, that’s how much respect this car has earned.
Great article! love the car so much. R34 and R35 GTR both are my fav’car of all time…
Very excellent Nissan GT
Wish I could have this one
F6 typhoon with just a tune makes over 680Nm of torque and over 370kW with stock engine and inter cooler. It will beat this crap, but only with 265mm rubber on 19ths in the rear and three 100kg sand bags.
Now all it needs is a dedicated chassis, awd, rear mounted dual clutch gearbox, better brakes, active dampers, active chassis control, aluminium jig welded chassis with aluminium doors, bonnet, boot and lap the ring in 7:29sec
I do not think that just the 265mm rubber would help no matter how sticky they were!
F6 a great car for the price, great engine too but way out of its league here as an all round package!
*correction* jig welded steel chassis!
These are great cars and the fact the dealerships are only allowed to sell 10 a year makes them all the more exclusive.I saw a few of these at my local Nissan dealership the other day while looking at Micras as a work car.