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	<title>Comments on: Holden Commodore Sportwagon Sydney Motor Show</title>
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		<title>By: Roberts</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/7077/holden-commodore-sportwagon-sydney-motor-show/#comment-136585</link>
		<dc:creator>Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 04:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a 2005 VZ sedan thats done 225,000kms and have had no problems with it, however my sister in law has a new Omega Sportswagon company car and has had heaps of trouble with it after doing 30,000 kms. She had the preivious VZ executive wagon before and it was sold after hitting a huge 350,000kms with no problems (it was just 3 yrs old). She has also said that the space is horrbile as well as the blind spots compared to her VZ wagon and would prefer to drive a 350,000kms VZ executive before jumping happily into the new sportswagon. I have to purchase a wagon myself, in order to care for my grandmother, but I am definately going to look for a VZ executive wagon before even going into Holden to purchase a new sportswagon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a 2005 VZ sedan thats done 225,000kms and have had no problems with it, however my sister in law has a new Omega Sportswagon company car and has had heaps of trouble with it after doing 30,000 kms. She had the preivious VZ executive wagon before and it was sold after hitting a huge 350,000kms with no problems (it was just 3 yrs old). She has also said that the space is horrbile as well as the blind spots compared to her VZ wagon and would prefer to drive a 350,000kms VZ executive before jumping happily into the new sportswagon. I have to purchase a wagon myself, in order to care for my grandmother, but I am definately going to look for a VZ executive wagon before even going into Holden to purchase a new sportswagon.</p>
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		<title>By: wheelnut</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/7077/holden-commodore-sportwagon-sydney-motor-show/#comment-32102</link>
		<dc:creator>wheelnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 09:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woz - incase you havent noticed its not Holden or Ford Oz that are in trouble its their US based parent companies.  Infact compared to the parent companies nearly all of GM and Fords susidiaries are doing well. 

The reason being: the old farts in Detroit are too scared to bite the bullet and streamline their operations as well as axe a couple of the slow selling cars in particular SUVs.. 
As well as the other &quot;similar&quot; cars accross their range with &quot;similar&quot; features etc which are competing against themselves {Chev vs Buick vs Pontiac] - Even though they know it has to be done to stay in business to compete against the Europeans and Japanese products whcih are increasing in popularity. [and the same applies to Ford]

GM for example has approx 12+ assembly plants in the USA almost half of which are operating at less than 75% capacity. In some cases one plant is making the same cars as another just a couple of 1000 miles away. [and the same applies to Ford]

Yet Holden is set to put on another shift so it will be at close to 100% capacity as they increase production of the Sedan Statesman Ute and the upcoming Torana [which are being/will be exported] plus the wagon

Plus the Fact that both Holden and Ford Oz have recently been declared Research and Development Centres for future RWD projects indicates that the locals will be here for some time to come..

Who knows it could get to the point where &quot;Detroit&quot; shuts down completely and all Chevs, Buicks and Fords etc sold in the USA are imports - Large RWD cars form Oz and Small  cars form Europe even China or Japan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woz &#8211; incase you havent noticed its not Holden or Ford Oz that are in trouble its their US based parent companies.  Infact compared to the parent companies nearly all of GM and Fords susidiaries are doing well. </p>
<p>The reason being: the old farts in Detroit are too scared to bite the bullet and streamline their operations as well as axe a couple of the slow selling cars in particular SUVs..<br />
As well as the other &#8220;similar&#8221; cars accross their range with &#8220;similar&#8221; features etc which are competing against themselves {Chev vs Buick vs Pontiac] &#8211; Even though they know it has to be done to stay in business to compete against the Europeans and Japanese products whcih are increasing in popularity. [and the same applies to Ford]</p>
<p>GM for example has approx 12+ assembly plants in the USA almost half of which are operating at less than 75% capacity. In some cases one plant is making the same cars as another just a couple of 1000 miles away. [and the same applies to Ford]</p>
<p>Yet Holden is set to put on another shift so it will be at close to 100% capacity as they increase production of the Sedan Statesman Ute and the upcoming Torana [which are being/will be exported] plus the wagon</p>
<p>Plus the Fact that both Holden and Ford Oz have recently been declared Research and Development Centres for future RWD projects indicates that the locals will be here for some time to come..</p>
<p>Who knows it could get to the point where &#8220;Detroit&#8221; shuts down completely and all Chevs, Buicks and Fords etc sold in the USA are imports &#8211; Large RWD cars form Oz and Small  cars form Europe even China or Japan</p>
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		<title>By: wheelnut</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/7077/holden-commodore-sportwagon-sydney-motor-show/#comment-32098</link>
		<dc:creator>wheelnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 08:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason some people still see Holden as Australias Own is because Unlike Ford Holden originally started in Australia building coaches; then car bodies before coming out with the 48/215 a car which was moresuited to Australias unique conditions compared to the US imports - which could explain why there are so many old Holdens still going today.

At the time the 48/215 was released GM had a minor shere in Holden.. it wasn&#039;t until the mid-late 70s that GM finally bought the remaining shares in Holden. So up until that point it could still be called &quot;Austrlais Own&quot;

Yet; I believe that even though Ford and Holden are 100% foreign owned they are still &quot;Australian&quot; the same way that Lamborghini is Italian even though it&#039;s owned by VW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason some people still see Holden as Australias Own is because Unlike Ford Holden originally started in Australia building coaches; then car bodies before coming out with the 48/215 a car which was moresuited to Australias unique conditions compared to the US imports &#8211; which could explain why there are so many old Holdens still going today.</p>
<p>At the time the 48/215 was released GM had a minor shere in Holden.. it wasn&#8217;t until the mid-late 70s that GM finally bought the remaining shares in Holden. So up until that point it could still be called &#8220;Austrlais Own&#8221;</p>
<p>Yet; I believe that even though Ford and Holden are 100% foreign owned they are still &#8220;Australian&#8221; the same way that Lamborghini is Italian even though it&#8217;s owned by VW</p>
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		<title>By: Going Ford, Is The Going Thing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Going Ford, Is The Going Thing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 13:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look, Holdenwoo Dunnydore slogan is &quot;SH*T, SHOT, SHATTERD&quot;
When are people going to get the message that Holden is SHIT from overseas, I know that Ford is every where, but dumbarses think Holden is &quot;Austraila&#039;s own car&quot; and Ford ain&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, Holdenwoo Dunnydore slogan is &#8220;SH*T, SHOT, SHATTERD&#8221;<br />
When are people going to get the message that Holden is SHIT from overseas, I know that Ford is every where, but dumbarses think Holden is &#8220;Austraila&#8217;s own car&#8221; and Ford ain&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Woz</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/7077/holden-commodore-sportwagon-sydney-motor-show/#comment-31447</link>
		<dc:creator>Woz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 12:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do u really want to buy a car that uses 10 year old tehcnology in about half of the cars Holdenwoo sell&#039;s to the public, only one colour Holdenwoo&#039;s come in now, hazy Black these are dark times for a company that did reincarnate from a weet bix box...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do u really want to buy a car that uses 10 year old tehcnology in about half of the cars Holdenwoo sell&#8217;s to the public, only one colour Holdenwoo&#8217;s come in now, hazy Black these are dark times for a company that did reincarnate from a weet bix box&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: sweetrose</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/7077/holden-commodore-sportwagon-sydney-motor-show/#comment-31433</link>
		<dc:creator>sweetrose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 12:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can anyone tell me when I can buy this machine and what colours it comes in?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can anyone tell me when I can buy this machine and what colours it comes in?</p>
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		<title>By: superh77@gmail.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>superh77@gmail.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 00:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>can anybody tell me can you fit 2 rotty sized dogs in the back part back seat to tailgate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can anybody tell me can you fit 2 rotty sized dogs in the back part back seat to tailgate</p>
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		<title>By: wheelnut</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/7077/holden-commodore-sportwagon-sydney-motor-show/#comment-30834</link>
		<dc:creator>wheelnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew - &quot;Belt Up The Kids&quot; was part of an [short-lived] road safety campaign in the 70s/80s. At this stage I don&#039;t have any kids which is why I am looking at the new Ute - as our second car.

I also think; looking at the lines of the wagon it would make a great Sandman. The only modification needed would be for the rear widscreen to either open independently of the tailgate or; retract into the tailgate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew &#8211; &#8220;Belt Up The Kids&#8221; was part of an [short-lived] road safety campaign in the 70s/80s. At this stage I don&#8217;t have any kids which is why I am looking at the new Ute &#8211; as our second car.</p>
<p>I also think; looking at the lines of the wagon it would make a great Sandman. The only modification needed would be for the rear widscreen to either open independently of the tailgate or; retract into the tailgate.</p>
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		<title>By: Bavarian Missile</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/7077/holden-commodore-sportwagon-sydney-motor-show/#comment-30808</link>
		<dc:creator>Bavarian Missile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 08:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The proof of the pudding is in the taste............. Guess you won&#039;t know till you have a taste!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The proof of the pudding is in the taste&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. Guess you won&#8217;t know till you have a taste!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike c</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/7077/holden-commodore-sportwagon-sydney-motor-show/#comment-30806</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike c</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 07:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ive waited 18months and I am not dissapointed by what I see.
If its as good as my last 7 holden wagons then I,m on a winner. 
The proof is in the pudding not the cake tin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ive waited 18months and I am not dissapointed by what I see.<br />
If its as good as my last 7 holden wagons then I,m on a winner.<br />
The proof is in the pudding not the cake tin.</p>
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