Comments on: Speed Doesn’t Kill – It’s Official

By: allen

allen — Wed, 01 Jun 2011 11:43:36 +0000

It seems some people on this forum have little experience driving or lack commonsense or maybe not very intelligent, they seem to think as soon as you go the over speed limit its dangerous or “speeding” but under is fine, but in reality speeding can happen at any speed. Its dangerous and irresponible to tell drives to stick to limits, and have us believe anything over this is creeping or suddenly becomes dangerous. Speed limits are and should only be treated as a guide, and taught that way in driving schools. Just one example of how speed is over-represted in crashes i have seen several lane changing accidents but you don’t hear or see advertising campains on this, instead they might work out one car was a couple of kms over, and say speed was a factor(put that one in the stats) whilst ignoring the real cause of the accident. Thus giving More justification for cameras. Having experience in the aviation industry its time road safety was treated with simmilar methods, pilots receive a monthly flight safety information detailing not only the factors of accidents but the cause. Therefore lessons can be learnt from these accidents. A big broom is needed to sweep out the current road saftey authorities and replaced with the equivilent from the aviation industry, that have no assosiation with revenue departments. Also should be noted pilots learn how to control an aircraft in all situations prior to rules and regulations. Do we do this for our drivers.

By: Paul

Paul — Thu, 30 Dec 2010 13:20:53 +0000

“”advanced driver-training be a viable option?”"

It’s the #1 logical solution, closely followed by mandatory crash survivable vehicles.

If no driver has died in either NASCAR, F1, WRC, V8 supercars etc in recent memory, the technology exists to build crash survivable cars.

So long as the law accepts a 40 km/h crash test as acceptable, people in vehicles will continue to die on public roads unnecessarily.

By: Paul

Paul — Thu, 30 Dec 2010 13:14:10 +0000

10 points to CarAdvice for finding this. This really needs to be front page news during the up coming state elections and should be quoted by EVERY media outlet any time “speed camera” is mentioned.

By: Bob

Bob — Wed, 01 Dec 2010 03:52:11 +0000

No Andrew. The whole point is that we DO NOT need a speed camera or policeman to tell us when we are speeding, by sending us a fine some months after the event.

By: Glen

Glen — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 05:19:59 +0000

If you believe the Authorities (a pretty nieve thing to do)then road safety is a one trick pony – speed.

Bad Road design is not important
Bad driving is irrelevant (erratic lane changing with inadequate indication, following distance, hogging the right hand lane, heavy vehicles spread over all lanes preventing passing is over looked – in Singapore this is prohibited)
Improvement in Auto technology/engineering is irrelevant
Young inexperienced drivers in high powered rear wheel drive cars/utes is irrelevant
Heavy traffic volumes on inadequate roads (more freeways needed) is not important.

Why is it safe to drive at 100 km/h on a two way rural road with oncoming traffic and no emergency lane safe, but unsafe to travel faster on a 3 or 4 lane freeway with all traffic moving in the same direction and the chance of a head on collision being non existent?

Why is it safe to travel at 110 km/h on a Sydney freeway, but not a Melbourne one.

Clearly its not a logical sensible debate, but revenue raising. The government thought process is something like this – Lets drop the speed limit arbitrarily everywhere, reduce the over limit margin, whack up as many camera’s as possible and sit back and count the money. If people object we can just send them to jail. BUt since our popualtion is so compliant we can just run some shocking TV campaigns and nudge them into compliance and rebrand speed cameras as road safety camera’s.

What Bullsh1t

By: Wheelnut

Wheelnut — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 11:01:02 +0000

Speed Doesn’t Kill…..It’s the SUDDEN stop!

No matter what speed your dirving along at 120l 240Km/h
you’re going to be relatively safe provided you dont hit anything thato bstructs you from continuing in a particular direction or encounter anything which forces you to change direction at speed.

Physics – a moving object will continue to travel in a given direction until/unless it comes into contact with an immovable object or another moving object with equal or greater weight or force [velocity/speed]

By: Stephen

Stephen — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 10:48:56 +0000

This is such a load of horseshit! Why do some people feel like it is their right to speed. Nothing you’re doing is so important that you need to speed. If you speed for fun – well that is sport – which you should be doing at the appropriate venue. I’ve been driving for a long time – and speeding when I was young know-all idiot, and I firmly believe that speeding is a major cause of accidents. The most common reason being a driver being so full of himself that he thinks he can handle a car at high speed, when in fact he doesn’t have the skills – none of you are any exception. Get off the roads and leave them for responsible adults.

By: David

David — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 08:39:24 +0000

Any comments about the four 17-18 year olds killed on the Westgate yesterday evening?
Car wrapped around a tree. Rear end at right angles to the front.
Probably died instantly(I HOPE),then incinerated.
Speed 140-160km/h was the estimate in a 100 zone.
State of the vehicle & witness statements back this up.
Why do they speed?Inexperience,youth,bullet proof ego?
Doubt that the road is the issue.It is ok at 100-110km/h
Police are looking at the CCTV trying to piece together a sequence of events.
Demonising police serves no purpose.
I’m not trying to score points off this tragic event.
In this instance it is easy to say cameras didn’t save the lives of four very young men.
The safety message just does not get through to some.

By: enthused

enthused — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:03:31 +0000

in reaponce to Andrew (Saying “speed does not kill” is tantamount to saying “alcohol does not cause alcoholism” just because there is 90% of water in the bottle.
Grow up! ) how much of your brain are you using? are you trying to tell me that if i drink a beer i will become an alcoholic. im guessing your age is sixty plus at least and there for i am sure you do have problems with your reaction time. its sensationalists like you that are the reason my insurance costs so much. if you want to save lives i sugest you look at your self first.

By: Matt

Matt — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:04:35 +0000

So what we are saying here is that on open highways some guy in a beaten up old crap box is safe at 100 and Im doing 120 in my RS4 and im unsafe even though the quoted stopping distances by the authorities including reaction times is a third in this particular car and on top of that I can do a full swerve without loosing it…thanks to modern technology. Should I rely on this, no, should I use my own common sense to judge my speed, most definetley. I’ve found myself doing 80 or less in a 100 zone in bad conditions yet others are still doing 100, quit amusing seeing them aqua planning and yet they still keep going.

What we are all saying is we are all put in this tight little safe box and suppose to be happy about it.

Ive been to many countries. My conclusion is people should go to Germany to see how its done and go to China to see how its not done. In China they generally dont do over 40 but their road deaths are unbelievable.

Pretty much increasing speed limits on major carraige ways by 10km/hr would not make them less safe but would atleast increase capacity. I havent seen any study done on it but I am sure it would help. On longer routes on double carraige ways these should be the same in France where atleast the authorities have marked 130 in the dry and 110 in the wet. Take a 4 hour trip at 100 would on take around 3 hours at 130 thus reducing exposure on the road and fatigue the other major killer.

Now seeing some people want to post links to websites and quote figures then atleast I will mention this lot who want to bring some common sense back to this country.
http://www.ldp.com.au