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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 04:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just want to warn people thinking of buying a Lancer that the paint has flaked severly on ours apparently due to bird droppings being left on over night (one night only!)...we&#039;ve had it 6 months and we&#039;re definately looking to get rid of it soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just want to warn people thinking of buying a Lancer that the paint has flaked severly on ours apparently due to bird droppings being left on over night (one night only!)&#8230;we&#8217;ve had it 6 months and we&#8217;re definately looking to get rid of it soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Nikolay Trifonov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nikolay Trifonov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 08:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the moment i`m driving the same Mitsubishi Lancer and i can tell you many things for this car,but only one thing makes difference from other cars,the Bulgarian roads are verry poor and in bad shape but this car makes you feel like you are drving on the fast track,she don`t have limints,it`s one of the best cars in the moment!If someone can buy this car,don`t think,buy it!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the moment i`m driving the same Mitsubishi Lancer and i can tell you many things for this car,but only one thing makes difference from other cars,the Bulgarian roads are verry poor and in bad shape but this car makes you feel like you are drving on the fast track,she don`t have limints,it`s one of the best cars in the moment!If someone can buy this car,don`t think,buy it!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Cuneyt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cuneyt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking good... slick but front is look like Volvo rear is Alfa 159...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking good&#8230; slick but front is look like Volvo rear is Alfa 159&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Frugal One</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frugal One</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 01:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This fair website loved the Lancer and called it a class leader.

Wheels in COTY s/hitcanned it, WTF?

Matt your dad has a point, the Corolla is even better again, i think its more important to buy what you really like and enjoy and dont worry so much about the resale.If resale is a issue, buy late model as new 2nd hand unit.

Cheers

F-O</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This fair website loved the Lancer and called it a class leader.</p>
<p>Wheels in COTY s/hitcanned it, WTF?</p>
<p>Matt your dad has a point, the Corolla is even better again, i think its more important to buy what you really like and enjoy and dont worry so much about the resale.If resale is a issue, buy late model as new 2nd hand unit.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>F-O</p>
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		<title>By: Lethal_1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lethal_1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 00:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saw this car 1st in my Game; Need For Speed - ProStreet
Now I have seen this in person @ the Brisbane MotorShow just lately &amp; was surprisingly impressive.? I drive a BIG car, *cough* Commodore, &amp; this Lancer VRX has me wanting this in exchange.! - Wow.! - ALOT of Driving Safety Features &amp; other gadgetry not found with my current car standard like;  Alloy Pedals, Climate Control, Sporty Gear Lever, SteeringWheel Paddle Gear Changes, Bluetooth Connectivity, an Awesome Sound System, KeyLess Entry, plus more.! 
- What I was disappointed in was the lack of Power.? (113kW, eewww)
- That just took the fizz outta my dream.? - And I was also led to believe it was an AWD.!! No it&#039;s not.? OHH.?? Bummer.!!
- I still love the car ... Just have to get over the missing power &amp; the absence of AWD ... Other than that, it&#039;s a kick-ass car I&#039;d seriously change over too for the safety &amp; standard gadgets.!! Nice change Mitsubishi, Cheer&#039;s.!!*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saw this car 1st in my Game; Need For Speed &#8211; ProStreet<br />
Now I have seen this in person @ the Brisbane MotorShow just lately &amp; was surprisingly impressive.? I drive a BIG car, *cough* Commodore, &amp; this Lancer VRX has me wanting this in exchange.! &#8211; Wow.! &#8211; ALOT of Driving Safety Features &amp; other gadgetry not found with my current car standard like;  Alloy Pedals, Climate Control, Sporty Gear Lever, SteeringWheel Paddle Gear Changes, Bluetooth Connectivity, an Awesome Sound System, KeyLess Entry, plus more.!<br />
- What I was disappointed in was the lack of Power.? (113kW, eewww)<br />
- That just took the fizz outta my dream.? &#8211; And I was also led to believe it was an AWD.!! No it&#8217;s not.? OHH.?? Bummer.!!<br />
- I still love the car &#8230; Just have to get over the missing power &amp; the absence of AWD &#8230; Other than that, it&#8217;s a kick-ass car I&#8217;d seriously change over too for the safety &amp; standard gadgets.!! Nice change Mitsubishi, Cheer&#8217;s.!!*</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 12:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i was going to buy the vrx for my first car, done a few test drives and everything and i loved the car, but my dad always had this impression that the lancer wont hold up in vaule at future resale or something... well ig ot a mazda 6 classic sport hatch today, but i still would love to have a lancer =[</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i was going to buy the vrx for my first car, done a few test drives and everything and i loved the car, but my dad always had this impression that the lancer wont hold up in vaule at future resale or something&#8230; well ig ot a mazda 6 classic sport hatch today, but i still would love to have a lancer =[</p>
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		<title>By: Ronald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 10:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have driven the CVT Lancer VR and yes it&#039;s  nosie and reminds me of the early aout holdens - shame it does not have a normal 5 / 6 speed auto.  The manual is great to drive.

How does it compare to the Mazda 3 as this is appears to be a more premium car.

Can anybody provide feedback please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have driven the CVT Lancer VR and yes it&#8217;s  nosie and reminds me of the early aout holdens &#8211; shame it does not have a normal 5 / 6 speed auto.  The manual is great to drive.</p>
<p>How does it compare to the Mazda 3 as this is appears to be a more premium car.</p>
<p>Can anybody provide feedback please.</p>
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		<title>By: frz</title>
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		<dc:creator>frz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 08:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ahh ok, thanx for the info i appreciate it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ahh ok, thanx for the info i appreciate it</p>
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		<title>By: Ethan Aras</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ethan Aras</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 12:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>G&#039;day bloggers...

i drove the lancer ES cvt... my overall impression is that it has a lot of standard gear for the price point BUT the quality of fit and finish wasn&#039;t quite up to scratch...the plastics quality was quite bad, hard and shiny crap...the paint quality rather thin...

POSITIVES - the engine is by far the smoothest (compared to the new corolla, civic, mazda 3) and torquiest... the car is fairly quiet and has a nice ride... but the CVT transmission is the noisiest and unrefined transmission i have ever come across...yuk...sounds like loose marbles are being blended as you accelerate but extremely smooth when coasting...

but the car does look nice though...for most that alone would be enough to buy the car... the warranty is pretty good as well...

still not my cup of tea...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>G&#8217;day bloggers&#8230;</p>
<p>i drove the lancer ES cvt&#8230; my overall impression is that it has a lot of standard gear for the price point BUT the quality of fit and finish wasn&#8217;t quite up to scratch&#8230;the plastics quality was quite bad, hard and shiny crap&#8230;the paint quality rather thin&#8230;</p>
<p>POSITIVES &#8211; the engine is by far the smoothest (compared to the new corolla, civic, mazda 3) and torquiest&#8230; the car is fairly quiet and has a nice ride&#8230; but the CVT transmission is the noisiest and unrefined transmission i have ever come across&#8230;yuk&#8230;sounds like loose marbles are being blended as you accelerate but extremely smooth when coasting&#8230;</p>
<p>but the car does look nice though&#8230;for most that alone would be enough to buy the car&#8230; the warranty is pretty good as well&#8230;</p>
<p>still not my cup of tea&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: frz</title>
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		<dc:creator>frz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 11:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>agree with that, reminds me of a kia style car if the model is a stock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>agree with that, reminds me of a kia style car if the model is a stock.</p>
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		<title>By: Toyota Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toyota Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 08:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;At just $20,990, the entry- level ES model will have the rest of the small car field in damage control.&quot; -CarAdvice

Ummmm I dont really think so... as another poster mentioned although it offers reasonable value for money it looks like absolute CRAP, the base model that is. I went to the dealership today... exteranally doesnt look as good and internally looks worse and one major downer for mine, no centre console on base!!! Id go VR or above. Although Im sure some people with an absolute lack of taste may still buy it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;At just $20,990, the entry- level ES model will have the rest of the small car field in damage control.&#8221; -CarAdvice</p>
<p>Ummmm I dont really think so&#8230; as another poster mentioned although it offers reasonable value for money it looks like absolute CRAP, the base model that is. I went to the dealership today&#8230; exteranally doesnt look as good and internally looks worse and one major downer for mine, no centre console on base!!! Id go VR or above. Although Im sure some people with an absolute lack of taste may still buy it.</p>
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		<title>By: frz</title>
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		<dc:creator>frz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 02:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which is better in performance, mazda3 or lancer08?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which is better in performance, mazda3 or lancer08?</p>
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		<title>By: tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 12:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hyundai shakey! That&#039;s funny. Those guys are selling heaps of cars worldwide and only getting stronger!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hyundai shakey! That&#8217;s funny. Those guys are selling heaps of cars worldwide and only getting stronger!</p>
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		<title>By: frz</title>
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		<dc:creator>frz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 11:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi guys,
im new here and been researching about this new 2008lancer if it is really worth getting compare to mazda3? 

dont really know much about cars but damn, Hyundai engine on a lancer? heard that hyundai is a bit shaky too? but that&#039;s just from someone&#039;s mouth.

mostly appreciated if any will leave their comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi guys,<br />
im new here and been researching about this new 2008lancer if it is really worth getting compare to mazda3? </p>
<p>dont really know much about cars but damn, Hyundai engine on a lancer? heard that hyundai is a bit shaky too? but that&#8217;s just from someone&#8217;s mouth.</p>
<p>mostly appreciated if any will leave their comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 03:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>16&quot; Brake Discs Front and Rear... So 400mm rotors on an ordinary road car, I don&#039;t think so.
The US website lists 11.6&quot; Discs or there abouts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>16&#8243; Brake Discs Front and Rear&#8230; So 400mm rotors on an ordinary road car, I don&#8217;t think so.<br />
The US website lists 11.6&#8243; Discs or there abouts.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam.L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam.L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 02:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The new Lancer sedans are stunning both visually &amp; technically. The inclusion of Stability Control and Traction speaks volumes about Mitsu’s commitment to safety.The same endorsements however cannot be awarded in the power stakes. Whilst the new 2.0L engine delivers class leading performance (113kw/198Nm),I believe the power/weight ratios suffer due to the increased kerb weights and sadly the heavier flagship VRX with its handling advantage suffers the most and loses out in a power struggle to the ES &amp; VR. The sportiest model should also go as good as it looks, “not the opposite”! Come on Mitsu, don&#039;t screw up with the normally aspirated models. Add the 2.4L engine (125kw/226Nm)(albeit pricier premium) and give the VRX the edge. Read the Aust CARSguide (Sept 21st liftout) tests in Canberra, A CVT equipped VRX would run the slowest time (approx 1 second) @ 10.5&#039;s to 110kph. Perhaps Mitsu believes the upcoming Ralliart &amp; EVO models will provide all the performance value! Your right, they will, but not all potential customers prefer and/or are allowed (“P” Platers) a turbo model that costs more to purchase and insane amounts to insure. Mitsubishi Aust&#039;s CEO Rob McEniry has hinted to various press that the 2.4l engine could follow. If this pipeline upgrade is being considered, then it should have already been available in the VRX to all of us willing buyers. C’mon Rob, time to start rattling Mitsu Japan’s gates and get this upgrade implemented, ASAP. My money is still sitting in my bank.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The new Lancer sedans are stunning both visually &amp; technically. The inclusion of Stability Control and Traction speaks volumes about Mitsu’s commitment to safety.The same endorsements however cannot be awarded in the power stakes. Whilst the new 2.0L engine delivers class leading performance (113kw/198Nm),I believe the power/weight ratios suffer due to the increased kerb weights and sadly the heavier flagship VRX with its handling advantage suffers the most and loses out in a power struggle to the ES &amp; VR. The sportiest model should also go as good as it looks, “not the opposite”! Come on Mitsu, don&#8217;t screw up with the normally aspirated models. Add the 2.4L engine (125kw/226Nm)(albeit pricier premium) and give the VRX the edge. Read the Aust CARSguide (Sept 21st liftout) tests in Canberra, A CVT equipped VRX would run the slowest time (approx 1 second) @ 10.5&#8217;s to 110kph. Perhaps Mitsu believes the upcoming Ralliart &amp; EVO models will provide all the performance value! Your right, they will, but not all potential customers prefer and/or are allowed (“P” Platers) a turbo model that costs more to purchase and insane amounts to insure. Mitsubishi Aust&#8217;s CEO Rob McEniry has hinted to various press that the 2.4l engine could follow. If this pipeline upgrade is being considered, then it should have already been available in the VRX to all of us willing buyers. C’mon Rob, time to start rattling Mitsu Japan’s gates and get this upgrade implemented, ASAP. My money is still sitting in my bank.</p>
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		<title>By: Keiretsu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keiretsu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 11:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kenn, don&#039;t too much rely on wikipedia where any member of the general public cau put up an article if approved by its web coordinator. We gotta see deep inside the auto industry politics. Gotta realise Chrysler and Mitsubishi would not be happy with admitting their engines were Hyundai-based.

Note that 2.0, .2.4L Hyundai Theta engines debutted in Sep 2004 when the all new Sonata midsized sedan was launced first in South Korea. 

The GEMA joint venture whereby Chryler, Hyundai and Mitsubishi agreed to the design of World Engines available in 2 variants (2.0, 2.4) was formed in 2005. 

How come the Theta engine could have been &#039;jointly&#039; developed even before the joint venture began its operation? 

&#039;The cylinder block and other basic structural parts&#039; which I think require a good deal of technology and craftmanship were not jointly designed but exclusively designed by Hyundai. Chrysler and Mitsubishi then, based on the Hyundai-designed block design, built up their own engine using different manifolds, intake out-take systemw and valve timing equipment according to what they expected of the enigine. So the MIVEC is Mitsubishi edition of Theta Engine that has gone through fairly heavy mechanical addition and change (e.g Mitsubishi adopted their own MIVEC valve timing systems whilst Hyundai used Denso-designed Various Valve Timing configuration).

You might say &#039;then they are completely different engines&#039;
Well, in the 90&#039;s, Hyundai had used Mitsubishi-based Sirius engines right until the Theta engine was built for the Sonata. 

But many mechanical changes that Hyundai brought to the Sirius engine were such that they became completely different from one another. Even so, Hyundai still had to gain permission from Mitsubishi when they wanted to modify even the diameter of a screw in the block. Why? because the very fundamental part of the engine was still Mitsubishi-designed.

The reverse is now the case with relationship between Hyundai ,and Daimler Chrysler &amp; Mitsubishi. Chrysler and Mitsubishi can modify the Hyundai-based engine to their own desired specifications making their engines quite distinct from each other, but still to a degree have to be dependent on Hyundai&#039; engineers.

I am not trying to detract from this awesome Mitsubishi sedan. Actually I am extremely pleased with this solid sedan and think this is the best bick in its class. But I just want to let people know what is really going on.

As far as I know this is what has actually happened between the American, Japanese and Korean auto makers. Please correct me if you find a bit that is wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kenn, don&#8217;t too much rely on wikipedia where any member of the general public cau put up an article if approved by its web coordinator. We gotta see deep inside the auto industry politics. Gotta realise Chrysler and Mitsubishi would not be happy with admitting their engines were Hyundai-based.</p>
<p>Note that 2.0, .2.4L Hyundai Theta engines debutted in Sep 2004 when the all new Sonata midsized sedan was launced first in South Korea. </p>
<p>The GEMA joint venture whereby Chryler, Hyundai and Mitsubishi agreed to the design of World Engines available in 2 variants (2.0, 2.4) was formed in 2005. </p>
<p>How come the Theta engine could have been &#8216;jointly&#8217; developed even before the joint venture began its operation? </p>
<p>&#8216;The cylinder block and other basic structural parts&#8217; which I think require a good deal of technology and craftmanship were not jointly designed but exclusively designed by Hyundai. Chrysler and Mitsubishi then, based on the Hyundai-designed block design, built up their own engine using different manifolds, intake out-take systemw and valve timing equipment according to what they expected of the enigine. So the MIVEC is Mitsubishi edition of Theta Engine that has gone through fairly heavy mechanical addition and change (e.g Mitsubishi adopted their own MIVEC valve timing systems whilst Hyundai used Denso-designed Various Valve Timing configuration).</p>
<p>You might say &#8216;then they are completely different engines&#8217;<br />
Well, in the 90&#8217;s, Hyundai had used Mitsubishi-based Sirius engines right until the Theta engine was built for the Sonata. </p>
<p>But many mechanical changes that Hyundai brought to the Sirius engine were such that they became completely different from one another. Even so, Hyundai still had to gain permission from Mitsubishi when they wanted to modify even the diameter of a screw in the block. Why? because the very fundamental part of the engine was still Mitsubishi-designed.</p>
<p>The reverse is now the case with relationship between Hyundai ,and Daimler Chrysler &amp; Mitsubishi. Chrysler and Mitsubishi can modify the Hyundai-based engine to their own desired specifications making their engines quite distinct from each other, but still to a degree have to be dependent on Hyundai&#8217; engineers.</p>
<p>I am not trying to detract from this awesome Mitsubishi sedan. Actually I am extremely pleased with this solid sedan and think this is the best bick in its class. But I just want to let people know what is really going on.</p>
<p>As far as I know this is what has actually happened between the American, Japanese and Korean auto makers. Please correct me if you find a bit that is wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 12:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i actually dont mind the look of the 380 that much and the VRX form looks ....well i reckon bloody good.
not to mention that the 380 probably offers the best value by a long way. (but thats only cause they arent selling as many)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i actually dont mind the look of the 380 that much and the VRX form looks &#8230;.well i reckon bloody good.<br />
not to mention that the 380 probably offers the best value by a long way. (but thats only cause they arent selling as many)</p>
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		<title>By: tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 06:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys - I don&#039;t mind the looks of the 380 - although it&#039;s a pity the styling isn&#039;t as good as the Lancer. That&#039;s a given. What I need to say though, is that the 380 is a first class drive in every respect. Don&#039;t believe me! Do yourself a favour and go for a quick test drive and then report back here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys &#8211; I don&#8217;t mind the looks of the 380 &#8211; although it&#8217;s a pity the styling isn&#8217;t as good as the Lancer. That&#8217;s a given. What I need to say though, is that the 380 is a first class drive in every respect. Don&#8217;t believe me! Do yourself a favour and go for a quick test drive and then report back here.</p>
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		<title>By: Bavarian Missile</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bavarian Missile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 02:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your not wrong there Tony the current 380 has a head like a savage water rat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your not wrong there Tony the current 380 has a head like a savage water rat.</p>
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