…Take that Toymotor Paulie!

The TRD Aurion made the grade but didn’t impress. Hey at lest it got in the class!

Here is what WAZZA said ” Really uninspiring.The highlight is definitely the engine,but the rest of the car just doesn’t inspire performance driving.You sit to high with not enough support…it just does an average job of being something its not…..a performance car is more than just extra power.A lovely family car though!” end of quote.

That was a bit mean!

http://www.carpoint.com.au/car-review/2829928.aspx

I cant think of any other reason but that it didn’t have a knock sensor ,which would be madness on a supercharged application ,or that if low octane fuel has caused it to run lean the knock sensor it did have was faulty.

Either way I think Toyota know more than their letting on and they are going to have fess up if they have to make changes to the models that are already sold. Guess all will be revealed soon enough ha.

TOYOTA Australia has yet to reveal the exact cause of a mysterious and embarrassing engine failure that led the company to withdraw its high-performance Aurion TRD from sale just weeks after it was released.

However, suppliers Prodrive, which modifies the basic Aurion for Toyota, and Eaton supercharger agent Harrop Engineering have both been cleared of responsibility.

Toyota maintains that the failure of the 3.5-litre supercharged V6 is an isolated case and has resumed production of the car, but stocks are being held back from dealers.

The company suspended sales of the TRD Aurion last week after an engine failed while being driven by a Melbourne dealer salesman.

“(TRD) are still doing their testing so they are not up to a point where they want to say anything yet,” said company spokesman Mike Breen on Monday.

“Once they got the engine back it was already detonated so it was hard to see what was cause and what was effect, so that’s been a challenge for them.

“They’ve been trying to replicate the situation the dealer had the car in to see if they could make it happen again and they’ve been checking the engines internals with an endoscope to see if there was any foreign matter inside the engines. But so far they haven’t found anything untoward.

“They still maintain it’s an isolated case, but until we are 110 per cent sure we’re just not willing to send them out. It might seem an over-reaction, but that’s the Toyota way.”

Mr Breen said that Prodrive was “totally in the clear” after checking the 150 cars built to date at its new facility near the Toyota factory in Altona.

“It’s not a Prodrive concern. One of the reasons (the engineers) wanted to look inside the engines was to make sure that during the changing of components some foreign matter didn’t fall inside inadvertently,” he said.

“They haven’t found anything to suggest that, and they didn’t think they would because the way things are done by Prodrive there’s no reason to think that anything could find it’s way inside the engine.

“Harrop dissected the supercharger that was on the car and checked it to make sure there were no problems with the castings or anything like that and they’re 100 per cent in the clear as well.”

Toyota had delivered only five cars to customers when the problem arose and has another 30 customer orders awaiting delivery.

Owners of the five TRD Aurions were not formally advised of the problem because Toyota is confident it is an isolated incident.

TRD launched the supercharged Aurion only last month after four years of planning and development. End of Story

Maybe some one ran normal unleaded in it and it ran lean and detonated,what you think Paul. I do find it hard to believe they cant find anything that caused it? Or does it have a knock sensor ?

The break down is most likey caused by car sales persons screeming the **** out of the thing, trying to impress the buyer. Like the MT Gravat Holden dealer screeming a new SS
up the mountan when the car had not done 1,000 KMs.

Ok thanks kindly. I was trying to find the latest stats and that was as close as I could get.

Westy.

Westy, thanks… its good to hear varying perspectives, even if I dont agree.

This has turned out to be a great post. Paul I think you are out numbered but still fighting to the end. Admire you for that. Well I am still waiting to hear how the TRD stuff turns out and let’s see what it is that broke.

FPV Typhoon runs 9 psi

XR6Turbo runs 6psi boost

Not sure what the equivalent is for TRD but I checked out the WRX Sti and it runs 11.6 psi just trying to get some performance figures out of another turbo’d car for example.

Westy :)

I do not want to “nit-pick” and “argue for the sake of it” as you put it. I simply want to state the FACTS. Not conjecture and heresay as some have done. You wrote using motorbikes as an example so I simply replied ON TOPIC to what you said.

And to avoid a discussion with me, please don’t tell me I “came late for this one.. it’s finished” Perhaps you have finished what you had to say, but please respect the rights of OTHERS (I.e. ME) to say what I want to also. This is a PUBLIC forums after all Paul. You can’t simply try and dictate to have things your way only – this attitude of yours comes across in how you post your ideas too. It’s an unattractive trait.