Comments on: Victoria Police Fuel Speed Camera Debate

By: ohsotorque_

ohsotorque_ — Wed, 12 May 2010 08:59:00 +0000

I would rather pay the cost of the fine to a lawyer than to give it to smug cops and inadequate politicians.

By: Fraser

Fraser — Sun, 07 Mar 2010 12:22:49 +0000

the only reason undertaking happens is because slow moving traffic hogs the right lanes. If I’m passing you in a left lane, YOU SHOULD BE THERE!

By: Ping

Ping — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:05:48 +0000

Speeding fines are considered revenue in the deliberations of the Commonwealth Grants Commission; which is the federal government body that is tasked with divvying-up the Goods and Services Tax and other federal grants to the states and territories.

This is a quote from an opening paragraph from one of their reports:

“The Law and Order Fees and Fines category comprised the net collections from fines and forfeitures, and from fees and charges collected by the courts, including those which were primarily revenue‑raising rather than cost‑recovery measures. It included traffic fines imposed by the police but excluded other licence fees collected by the courts which were classified to the Other Taxes category.”

Note the words “primarily revenue‑raising”…..The full document can be found at (cut and paste into browser address bar):

http://www.cgc.gov.au/state_finances_inquiries/2007_update_report2/working_papers/html/volume_4/04_u2007_law_and_order_fees_and_fines/fixer_uppers_in_new_normal_dot_heading_2

Further, the Commonwealth Grants Commission calculates revenue from fines for each jurisdiction then calculates the average for each jurisdiction and the average for all jurisdictions. Those jurisdictions that are below average on fine revenue lose the money from their Commonwealth Grants; the expectation is that those states and territories are then encouraged to increase revenue from fines.

As a resident of the NT, we’ve had an explosion in the number of traffic light and speed cameras being installed. This is no coincidence; the NT has one of the lowest fine per capita ratios and must therefore increase the amount of money it extracts from it’s citizens or lose it in Commonwealth grants.

By: Thompson

Thompson — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 05:45:15 +0000

The Aussie Speeding Fines book has a lot to say about these issues.
The free chapters of the ebook can be downloaded from http://www.hotlinkfiles.com/files/2409589_yi78l/AussieSpeedingFineseBook.pdf
It should help empower you to take some action against these money making cameras.

By: h0tfuzz

h0tfuzz — Tue, 24 Feb 2009 21:50:53 +0000

Vic police are a bunch of sissies who can’t catch the real dangerous crooks and only chase after innocent defenseless motorists. I wonder why John Howard took away our guns?? hmmm perhaps so we won’t shoot back at those damn cameras

By: Toby

Toby — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:45:45 +0000

People seem fixed on the idea that kids are the only bad drivers out there. I’m commuting regularly between Melbourne and Geelong, but have lived in the UK for a few months previously. The discipline on freeways here is in comparison abysmal. People speed in the UK up to 160Kmh regularly, yet I have only really felt unsafe here, where I’m surrounded by morons who think they’re the next Fangio.
No one sticks to the left,
people follow ridiculously closely,
no one knows what undertaking is or why you SHOULDN’T do it,
people cut each other off – purely for the heck of it,
change lanes without indicating PRIOR – rather during.

I think maybe some of this is to do with the fact that our road toll is still embarrassing compared to other countries with more lax speed limits and enforcement. It’s time people demanded a more realistic plan from the government than beating the same old tattered drum of accusing speeding motorists. It’s a risk… one amongst many and taking up far too much of the public consciousness.

By: h0t fuzz

h0t fuzz — Sat, 31 Jan 2009 14:10:26 +0000

Those vic fuzz can go shove their fat cameras right up their fat donut filled arses. All they do everyday is pull random motorists over for speeding. Last week i saw some guy get pulled over for speeding in a 40 zone rofl – there was no one infront or behind him for like 50 metres. Stupid cops should go catch some real criminals and stop abusing their powers and act like bullies.
oh btw half the cops in vic are all corrupt so that might explain why they never go after real crims

By: Brian

Brian — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 01:42:02 +0000

What a joke this country is to speeding you have one of the lowest speedlimits in the world have roads that you can SAFELY drive faster on. The only problem and I mean the only problem is eduction there are kids driving cars V6 V8′s with no idea of speed and breaking distance all most are capeable of doing is putting rubber tread on the road with thier burnouts. Driving in the outside lane with nothing inside of them (O I forgot have to turn right in 10K so will get in that lane now). In the police in the UK we had a word called common sense not here in Australia it is all about money and a controlled society, with the police swaggering about chewing gum and trying to look good no respect for the job or uniform they wear. No not a whinging POM but driven all over the world and by far the worst poice force and drivers are here

By: wayne

wayne — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 13:19:58 +0000

about FN time COPS / put the pressure on

By: Brett

Brett — Sun, 07 Oct 2007 06:59:59 +0000

As a lawyer, I have found a rather large gap in the law which makes it almost impossible for the police to successfully prosecute a traffic camera infringement. However, the way fines are “priced” makes it uneconomical for motorists to seek legal advice in respect of infringements. It’s just a question of how much they value their demerit points.