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		<title>By: best car rate</title>
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		<dc:creator>best car rate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2011 16:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hybrid, but i like subaru</description>
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		<title>By: Peter SA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter SA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2011 01:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so on the Aussie sold Gen 3 Prius this reversing beeping can be turned off, I have heard conflicting stories that it can and it cannot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so on the Aussie sold Gen 3 Prius this reversing beeping can be turned off, I have heard conflicting stories that it can and it cannot.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter SA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter SA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 08:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>perhaps if you don&#039;t want to be seen as a Toyota basher, you should look into all makes with issues, I, over the years have owned , Holden, Nissan and Toyota cars and in my circumstance, the Toyota cars have been the most reliable, they do have a reputation for building extremly good cars, but every maufacurer can have an issue from time to time. I think you just need to be honest and accept you do not like the Prius or even perhaps Toyota which is OK. If I do not like a car and believe me Ford have produced some ugly cars the KA for example, I just say its not for me and dont go on and on about it. get over it mate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>perhaps if you don&#8217;t want to be seen as a Toyota basher, you should look into all makes with issues, I, over the years have owned , Holden, Nissan and Toyota cars and in my circumstance, the Toyota cars have been the most reliable, they do have a reputation for building extremly good cars, but every maufacurer can have an issue from time to time. I think you just need to be honest and accept you do not like the Prius or even perhaps Toyota which is OK. If I do not like a car and believe me Ford have produced some ugly cars the KA for example, I just say its not for me and dont go on and on about it. get over it mate.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 08:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want high performance, buy a high performance car, if you are looking for better economy and are happy to have you tall passengers in the rear wrap their legs around their heads buy a disel Ford Fiesta. If you need to tow a boat , trailer or Caravan you probablly will need a six cylinder or V8 Vehicle.

The Prius to me is about achieveing exceptional fuel economy and safety, which is still acheived with carrying 4 or 5 adults in the car. Yes it is over priced in my opinion, but I think it is a great car, expecially in the I-tech specification. Not too many cars sold here in Australia around the Prius price can claim they have the same fuel economy, room inside the car for all passengers and the safety advancement that the I-tech has. the Pre-collison radar system and the self parking systems are very impressive and the batteries now have a 8 year warranty. the car is very friendly to the enviroment especially when it is at the end of it life cycle, if people made an effort to reserch a particular car before passing judgement, they would have found the current prius has highly recycable components/materials. that can be reused and made into other products.

I&#039;m yet to know any of the 5 big Manufature&#039;s GM/Holden, Ford, Toyota, Mitsubishi and Nissan not to have some type of recall with their vehicles sold both here in Australia and overseas over the years.

I guess in the end it comes down to personal preference as to what type of car you purchase. If you don&#039;t like the Prius thats Ok but many people that buy them do, if petrol and LPG prices continue to rise, I think hybrid/ electric cars will become more popular in the future. I would be down to my toyota dealership tomorrow to buy one if I had the money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want high performance, buy a high performance car, if you are looking for better economy and are happy to have you tall passengers in the rear wrap their legs around their heads buy a disel Ford Fiesta. If you need to tow a boat , trailer or Caravan you probablly will need a six cylinder or V8 Vehicle.</p>
<p>The Prius to me is about achieveing exceptional fuel economy and safety, which is still acheived with carrying 4 or 5 adults in the car. Yes it is over priced in my opinion, but I think it is a great car, expecially in the I-tech specification. Not too many cars sold here in Australia around the Prius price can claim they have the same fuel economy, room inside the car for all passengers and the safety advancement that the I-tech has. the Pre-collison radar system and the self parking systems are very impressive and the batteries now have a 8 year warranty. the car is very friendly to the enviroment especially when it is at the end of it life cycle, if people made an effort to reserch a particular car before passing judgement, they would have found the current prius has highly recycable components/materials. that can be reused and made into other products.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m yet to know any of the 5 big Manufature&#8217;s GM/Holden, Ford, Toyota, Mitsubishi and Nissan not to have some type of recall with their vehicles sold both here in Australia and overseas over the years.</p>
<p>I guess in the end it comes down to personal preference as to what type of car you purchase. If you don&#8217;t like the Prius thats Ok but many people that buy them do, if petrol and LPG prices continue to rise, I think hybrid/ electric cars will become more popular in the future. I would be down to my toyota dealership tomorrow to buy one if I had the money.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2011 10:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In this country the only way to go for maximum economy and greenness is hybrid with an LPG engine, such as Hyundai are playing around with but seem to have stalled on. We have large natural reserves of the gases, it&#039;s cheap (until the Government hike the duty anyway!), and green. So why aren&#039;t at least our local manufacturers pruducing cars powered this way/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this country the only way to go for maximum economy and greenness is hybrid with an LPG engine, such as Hyundai are playing around with but seem to have stalled on. We have large natural reserves of the gases, it&#8217;s cheap (until the Government hike the duty anyway!), and green. So why aren&#8217;t at least our local manufacturers pruducing cars powered this way/</p>
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		<title>By: madmax</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 03:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you dont like cars or driving the you will love the prius. Its the Volvo of the new millenium.

For all of the technology in the drivetrain the economy figures are unremarkable. They do not come close to justifying the expense. The tyres and aerodynamics have as much to do with its fuel consumption (and with why the back seat is only suitable for short people) as its hypridness (sic).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you dont like cars or driving the you will love the prius. Its the Volvo of the new millenium.</p>
<p>For all of the technology in the drivetrain the economy figures are unremarkable. They do not come close to justifying the expense. The tyres and aerodynamics have as much to do with its fuel consumption (and with why the back seat is only suitable for short people) as its hypridness (sic).</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 03:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have just read all the comments, very interesting.  I hired a car from sydney airport a couple of days ago for 2 days and ended up with the toyota prius.  Didnt have a clue what I was driving other than it was a toyota but what a nice drive after I got used to its idosyncrasies.  Have owned a toyota hilux dual cab 1994 model for 16 years.  Yes when diesel changed toyota contacted us and did the fuel parts change over free of charge and even organised us a loan car.  At that stage the hilux was over 10yrs old. Have you ever had a car recall before I was impressed at how it was handled and how helpful toyota were.  Lets also say in the 16 years I have owned the hilux it has only had to have general services and the odd battery replaced. Not a bad record.  I bought a brand new Jeep Commander in 2006 and did we love it with all its bells and whistles.  Well we treated it same as hilux 4wheel driving, towing, lots of milaege per year first 3 months it had been back to the dealership 6 times for things that didnt work and by 200000km tailshalf fell out. I paid $70000 for the damn car and after sales service was lousy. Great fuel economy, 520torque mercedes motor felt like a race car to drive really good handling.  Nice car but maybe not long term buy.  I also own a PT cruiser and have had a holden commodore.  At the end of the day the toyota has by far been the better car and had the best after sales service against all the others.  I really enjoyed driving the Prius when from the airport across harbour bridge to north shore then out to Westmead in lousy peak hour traffic then next back to airport.  The car was so good am going to look into buying one, we didnt use barely any fuel.  the sounds were good, aircon was great, visiblity was good and handling was good, easy to merge into traffic even on motorways.  And yes the car is ugly but you know what when your sitting in it watching it not use any fuel it really doesnt seem to matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have just read all the comments, very interesting.  I hired a car from sydney airport a couple of days ago for 2 days and ended up with the toyota prius.  Didnt have a clue what I was driving other than it was a toyota but what a nice drive after I got used to its idosyncrasies.  Have owned a toyota hilux dual cab 1994 model for 16 years.  Yes when diesel changed toyota contacted us and did the fuel parts change over free of charge and even organised us a loan car.  At that stage the hilux was over 10yrs old. Have you ever had a car recall before I was impressed at how it was handled and how helpful toyota were.  Lets also say in the 16 years I have owned the hilux it has only had to have general services and the odd battery replaced. Not a bad record.  I bought a brand new Jeep Commander in 2006 and did we love it with all its bells and whistles.  Well we treated it same as hilux 4wheel driving, towing, lots of milaege per year first 3 months it had been back to the dealership 6 times for things that didnt work and by 200000km tailshalf fell out. I paid $70000 for the damn car and after sales service was lousy. Great fuel economy, 520torque mercedes motor felt like a race car to drive really good handling.  Nice car but maybe not long term buy.  I also own a PT cruiser and have had a holden commodore.  At the end of the day the toyota has by far been the better car and had the best after sales service against all the others.  I really enjoyed driving the Prius when from the airport across harbour bridge to north shore then out to Westmead in lousy peak hour traffic then next back to airport.  The car was so good am going to look into buying one, we didnt use barely any fuel.  the sounds were good, aircon was great, visiblity was good and handling was good, easy to merge into traffic even on motorways.  And yes the car is ugly but you know what when your sitting in it watching it not use any fuel it really doesnt seem to matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 11:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Electric cars are dangerous but hyndrogen powered cars would be safe??? ROFL!!

There are so many problems with hydrogen that I can&#039;t list them all.  For starters:
1. Highly explosive (have you never heard of the Hindenberg?) - despite what you see in movies petrol is actually extremely hard to ignite and therefore fires after car accidents are very rare even when the tank is ruptured.  Not the case with hydrogen which ignites very easily.
2.  Hydrogen is hard to store and transport as it is very bulky in gas form and has to be kept extremely cold to get it into liquid form.
3.  Because of 2. it is very hard to carry enough hydrogen in a vehicle to give a decent range.
4.  The main commercial way of producing hydrogen uses huge amounts of electricity - I don&#039;t have the figures handy but to replace petrol with hydrogen you would need a huge increase in electricity generation capacity - which of course in most cases is produced by burning fossil fuels.

Of course the funniest part of your comment is that almost all research for hydrogen powered cars is based on fuel-cell technology.  In simple terms the hydrogen is used to generate electricity which is then used to power an electric motor to drive the car!  So a hydrogen powered car is really just an electric car that uses hydrogen as the power source instead of a normal battery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Electric cars are dangerous but hyndrogen powered cars would be safe??? ROFL!!</p>
<p>There are so many problems with hydrogen that I can&#8217;t list them all.  For starters:<br />
1. Highly explosive (have you never heard of the Hindenberg?) &#8211; despite what you see in movies petrol is actually extremely hard to ignite and therefore fires after car accidents are very rare even when the tank is ruptured.  Not the case with hydrogen which ignites very easily.<br />
2.  Hydrogen is hard to store and transport as it is very bulky in gas form and has to be kept extremely cold to get it into liquid form.<br />
3.  Because of 2. it is very hard to carry enough hydrogen in a vehicle to give a decent range.<br />
4.  The main commercial way of producing hydrogen uses huge amounts of electricity &#8211; I don&#8217;t have the figures handy but to replace petrol with hydrogen you would need a huge increase in electricity generation capacity &#8211; which of course in most cases is produced by burning fossil fuels.</p>
<p>Of course the funniest part of your comment is that almost all research for hydrogen powered cars is based on fuel-cell technology.  In simple terms the hydrogen is used to generate electricity which is then used to power an electric motor to drive the car!  So a hydrogen powered car is really just an electric car that uses hydrogen as the power source instead of a normal battery.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 23:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is all relative - diesels are much quieter than they used to be but they are still much noisier than a Prius!  Also I find the fuel pumps tend to be messy and smelly (particularly if it is one used by trucks frequently) and at least at our local servos you almost always have to queue up for the diesel pump as they only have one compared to 8 petrol pumps.  Finally although the modern small diesels come close to Prius economy (yes officially the Ford is better but that is only on the test results - on real world around town economy the Prius is better) they are still much dirtier in terms of tail-pipe pollutants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is all relative &#8211; diesels are much quieter than they used to be but they are still much noisier than a Prius!  Also I find the fuel pumps tend to be messy and smelly (particularly if it is one used by trucks frequently) and at least at our local servos you almost always have to queue up for the diesel pump as they only have one compared to 8 petrol pumps.  Finally although the modern small diesels come close to Prius economy (yes officially the Ford is better but that is only on the test results &#8211; on real world around town economy the Prius is better) they are still much dirtier in terms of tail-pipe pollutants.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 22:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My real-world figures on a 2006 model Prius are 4.1 L/100km around town on regular unleaded or 3.9L/100km on premium (I originally used regular but switched to premium about 6 months ago - the extra economy doesn&#039;t quite offset the higher price but it ends up only costing me a little bit more but i have been told it is better for the fuel system and engine).  On a long highway trip it goes up to around 4.4 L/100km if you sit on 110 all the way but comes down a bit if you are in 100 km/hour zones.  Note that when I say &quot;around town&quot; we live on the Sunshine Coast so have very little traffic so the town figure is a mixture of 40-60 km/h suburban driving and 80-100km/h short bursts on the motorway and major roads.  I recently did several hundred kilometers in true town traffic in Brisbane and saw even lower figures.

Tank capacity is 45 litres so that gives a range of around 1000km on the highway and just over 1100km in the city (I have done 1140km on a tank and the only time I have ever filled up with less than 1000km on the clock was because I was doing a big trip the next morning).

The Prius definitely gives the best results around town but it is no slouch out on the highway either (there aren&#039;t too many cars that can return 4.5L/100km on the open road).  If  I was ONLY doing highway driving I would probably go for a diesel option but like most people I do a fair bit of suburban driving so am very happy with my choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My real-world figures on a 2006 model Prius are 4.1 L/100km around town on regular unleaded or 3.9L/100km on premium (I originally used regular but switched to premium about 6 months ago &#8211; the extra economy doesn&#8217;t quite offset the higher price but it ends up only costing me a little bit more but i have been told it is better for the fuel system and engine).  On a long highway trip it goes up to around 4.4 L/100km if you sit on 110 all the way but comes down a bit if you are in 100 km/hour zones.  Note that when I say &#8220;around town&#8221; we live on the Sunshine Coast so have very little traffic so the town figure is a mixture of 40-60 km/h suburban driving and 80-100km/h short bursts on the motorway and major roads.  I recently did several hundred kilometers in true town traffic in Brisbane and saw even lower figures.</p>
<p>Tank capacity is 45 litres so that gives a range of around 1000km on the highway and just over 1100km in the city (I have done 1140km on a tank and the only time I have ever filled up with less than 1000km on the clock was because I was doing a big trip the next morning).</p>
<p>The Prius definitely gives the best results around town but it is no slouch out on the highway either (there aren&#8217;t too many cars that can return 4.5L/100km on the open road).  If  I was ONLY doing highway driving I would probably go for a diesel option but like most people I do a fair bit of suburban driving so am very happy with my choice.</p>
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