The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) in the US has received more than 60 complaints about unintended acceleration in Toyota vehicles after they have been serviced as a part of their recalls.
The NHTSA’s David Strickland said the administration had begun to take action concerning the complaints.
“NHTSA has already started contacting consumers about these complaints to get to the bottom of the problem and to make sure Toyota is doing everything possible to make its vehicles safe,” he said.
Toyota is currently in the process of recalling around 9.5 million vehicles across the globe – 5.4 million for floor mat-related brake pedal jamming and 4.1 million over sticking accelerator pedals.
But the complaints about continued pedal faults could mean the source of the problem is different to earlier findings by Toyota and the NHTSA.
The NHTSA said if the recall repairs are not solving the problems Toyota may be ordered to develop a new fix, potentially leading to another recall.
“If Toyota owners are still experiencing sudden acceleration incidents after taking their cars to the dealership, we want to know about it,” Mr Strickland said.
Yesterday, Toyota spokeswoman, Celeste Migliore, told the LA Times that Toyota was at that stage unaware of any complaints made to the NHTSA about the Avalon, Camry and Matrix models allegedly involved.
“We very much would like to have any of those individuals who claim they’ve had unintended acceleration after the fix to go back to the dealership. If there was an accident, we want to see the vehicle and the driver and the accident report,” Ms Migliore said.
Meanwhile, US Transportation Secretary, Ray LaHood, is considering making brake override systems mandatory in all new cars to avoid a repeat of the unintended acceleration debacle dogging Toyota.
While not a solution to the problem on their own, override systems give complete priority to the brake pedal when pressed in tandem with the accelerator and cancel throttle input.
(with Left Lane News, LA Times)
Just sitting back in a comfortable armchair waiting for the fun to happen.
Sounds like the problem is more in depth than first thought, assuming the models affected are all drive-by-wire accelerator systems the root of the problem could lie within the throttle bodies or ecu’s!
Good Luck Toyota………Karma is a bitch!
“The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) in the US has received more than 60 complaints about unintended acceleration in Toyota vehicles after they have been serviced as a part of their recalls.”
Here is the reason why faulty toyota case will not close.
This faulty toyota case will not close.
1. This is not a floor mats problem
2. This is not a CTS’s part problem (Japanese made ‘lexus’ and ‘prius’ have a unintended acceleration problem. CTS never supply their parts to Lexus models. all prius and lexus models built in Japan)
3. It is hard to find hidden electronic glitch
4. Toyota will not admit their own technical & structural shortcoming
Just avoid toyota/lexus as possible as can… this is only solution.
The Prius has ‘inconsistent’ brake feel, its nothing to do with the unintended acceleration problems.
autoguide.com/auto-news/2010/02/report-apple-co-founder-says-his-prius-has-software-related-unintended-acceleration.html
The Prius hybrid has not been affected by the recent 2.3 million vehicle recall by Toyota for unintended acceleration, but according to Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak it probably should be. Wozniak, a man who knows a thing or two about software, recently spoke openly about a “unintended acceleration” problem with his new 2010 Prius, which he described as, “very scary.”
Just when you thought things were just starting to settling down for Toyota…
Toyota’s nightmare has just got a whole lot worse
If this keeps up sales will rocket….downwards !
I havent seen latest US figures, but here in OZ where none of there vehicles arent affected (apparently) they are already losing sizable ground.
The US will be far worse not just because of the public being scared, but also the stop production on many models.
And they thought last years loss was a big one……
Have a look a website called – carcomplaints.
This is this going to be onother world’s first for Toyota?
The first recall of a recall!
Toyota seem to be spending an awfull lot of money trying to cover up the actual electronic fault thats the real cause, because that would mean world-wide recall of almost every Toyota for repairs. The problem for them is they know whats wrong, but dont know what the fix is!
Theyve been denying electronic problems all along, but maybe thay have another look at that avenue.
my willingness to buy a toyota has gone down even more
First off, Toyota messed up with the CTS supplier parts.
However the Prius issue was that the brakes felt “weak and inconsistent”, which was a software adjust fix.
Now we have this issue with “fix” not working…. and 60 complaints have been lodged.
2 things…
Americans complain about everything, they really do. They will always use the “I’ll sue you” clause when they can… they have that mentality.
However that doesnt stop Toyota from their responsibilities of selling safe cars.
The allegations here is unfounded, because the actual problem of “expansion” of the plastic gears since it was exposed the heater pipes is legit… it has a logical explanation. When the gears expand under heat, they jam together hence causing a lock.
Now it could be that the “fix” didnt use the correct parts, this is a possible reason. Another problem however of “unintended” acceleration after “fixing”, well now thats different and looks unrelated with the expanding gear issue. To me its either Toyota has a faulty acceleration system design, but its hard to point to that since they use almost the same system for a decade and this issue only arised recently.
Basically, either Toyota is in deeper “$hit” or americans are paranoid and using every bit to squeese things out of Toyota… cant blame them, but still.. just want to point it out that they do complain about everything.. and yes thats general assumption thats likely accurate.
The ball is rolling now, people who would in the past be happy to live with an average vehicle with perceived higher quality now will complain because the quality part has changed in their perception even though the vehicles themselves haven’t changed at all.
This is why these recalls have and will hurt Toyota worse then if it were another company, because this is the image they have traded on. (Rightly or Wrongly)
In America where image is everything it’s going to hurt more then elsewhere and give Americans the excuse to support their local manufactures again even if it is just false pride.
Pride which most countries engage in but seemingly the Australian motoring public is immune, much to Toyota’s benefit going by the latest sales figures.
Making Australia either the most loyal or stupid motoring public depending on your point of view.
Does anyone know the reason why the Avensis is subject to a recall in NZ and not OZ?
NZ and Australian Avensis are completely different cars.
The trouble Toyota have now is that with all the publicity, everyone who presses the wrong pedal or feels the wheels slip or anything at all is going to make a complaint about it, and the report will be taken seriously. When this kind of hysteria hits, it’s pretty hard to tell whether Toyota are incompetent or whether a dingo really DID take Toyota’s baby (so to speak).
Possible answer to RK’s question. NZ imports a lot of secondhand cars from Japan and may be these are different to Australian version. It may be simpler to recall all Avensis vehicles in NZ just to check.