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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 15:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;his eye level sits above the back of the booster seat,&quot;

VERY dangerous! Can break his neck if you are in an accident.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;his eye level sits above the back of the booster seat,&#8221;</p>
<p>VERY dangerous! Can break his neck if you are in an accident.</p>
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		<title>By: Carmel</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/58898/child-restraint-safety-how-will-australias-new-laws-affect-your-child/#comment-332953</link>
		<dc:creator>Carmel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 12:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a prado, with leather seats, and a safe n sound ahr. I was thinking buying the safest Australian seat was the best thing to do but it doesn&#039;t fit our car seats. It works well in our older less safe car but multiple professional fitters have failed to fit it into the prado. The prado comes with isofix as std, but I can&#039;t use it and can&#039;t get a seat to fit the car in Australia- its ridiculous. In addition my 10 month old is 12 kg and has to be forward facing, due to the lack of car seats available to keep in him rear facing for the Australian recommendation of 12 months</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a prado, with leather seats, and a safe n sound ahr. I was thinking buying the safest Australian seat was the best thing to do but it doesn&#8217;t fit our car seats. It works well in our older less safe car but multiple professional fitters have failed to fit it into the prado. The prado comes with isofix as std, but I can&#8217;t use it and can&#8217;t get a seat to fit the car in Australia- its ridiculous. In addition my 10 month old is 12 kg and has to be forward facing, due to the lack of car seats available to keep in him rear facing for the Australian recommendation of 12 months</p>
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		<title>By: Concerned</title>
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		<dc:creator>Concerned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 12:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few things to address:

1) To all the people happy to &quot;cop the fine&quot; for using the Isofix/LUAS(Lower Universal Anchorage System)/Latch system illegally. I don&#039;t think the fine should be you biggest concern as you need to be aware insurance will not pay for any form of coverage if your child is injured or heaven forbid, killed in an accident using a restraint that does not conform to Australian standards. I was told if I did bring the one I used in Canada back &amp; used it the charge likely to result in such an instance would be more than just a &quot;slap on the wrist&quot; fine.

2)It will be a simple fixation system to transition to when it is finally approved. I recently traveled to Canada where they use a tether with the LUAS/Latch/Isofix system and it was so simple once I figured out the installation. The system is simple yet there are still errors (albeit fewer) that can be made when using it.  My big concern would be that parents are used to the seat belt fixing method so decide to combine Isofix/LUAS/Latch with it against recommendation and cause undue stress on the restraint increasing the risk of injury due to restraint failure cause by the stress. This will need to be addressed in a major ad campaign so the mistake is not made as it commonly was when the Isofix/LUAS/Latch systems were initially introduced. 

NOTE -the Isofix &amp; LUAS/Latch systems are NOT the same but similar. Isofix uses a removable base attachment and LUAS/Latch is fixed directly to the restraint and not removable. Also Latch fitted restraints also require the use of a top tether.

LUAS/Latch/Isofix restraints can also be used in aircraft which are all designed with the required anchorage bars recessed in the seats, resulting in much safer restraint &amp; safety for our children in the air also.

3)We need more rear facing restraint that allow rear facing up to a greater (22kg) weight as in the end, research &amp; testing proves out that his is by far the best protection for our children and they are very comfortable in it. 

4) We do have very high (some of the highest in the world)  manufacture/safety/stress standards for child restraints here in Australia. But these are  undone in part by the rear/forward facing standards/requirements/laws.

5)Even the Isofix/LUAS/Latch systems can still result in traumatic/fatal injury to children forward facing. The big issue should be how long children are required to remain in restraints and forward or rear facing. These two factors affect their safety more than anything else. It should be according to weight/height, not age. 

On another note;
Most of the late model(newer)vehicles on Australia&#039;s roads are unable to fit 3 full sized booster/child restraints across the back seat, even when attempted by professionals. I have several friends who have come across this problem even after being informed when the purchased the vehicle that they did comply &amp; would fit 3 restraints correctly. So most new 5 passenger vehicles will not properly support our new restraint laws creating a greater risk to our children and placing a greater burden on families. Unless you by a 7 passenger vehicle if you have 3 children under the size/age for restraint requirements. This is something else that needs to be addressed by our government- Why are they allowing vehicles into the country that cannot meet the requirements to fit multiple child restraints which are being marketed as 5 passenger vehicles suitable for 3 restraints across the rear seat? That or they should be working to  find a way to reduce the financial burden on families with more that 2 children so the regulations can be correctly adhered to.

A last note; Australia has some of the highest costing restraints and because of this many people use old/outdated/unsafe ones because of the exorbitant cost of the newer safer models. Maybe our illustrious government should regulate this too for the safety of our children if they require us all to comply with the new laws regarding them. It was cheaper for me to buy a high level restraint in Canada for 3 1/2 months we were traveling there, &amp; I&#039;m a single parent on a low income, than to rent one. Something that would not be possible at our outrageous costs here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few things to address:</p>
<p>1) To all the people happy to &#8220;cop the fine&#8221; for using the Isofix/LUAS(Lower Universal Anchorage System)/Latch system illegally. I don&#8217;t think the fine should be you biggest concern as you need to be aware insurance will not pay for any form of coverage if your child is injured or heaven forbid, killed in an accident using a restraint that does not conform to Australian standards. I was told if I did bring the one I used in Canada back &amp; used it the charge likely to result in such an instance would be more than just a &#8220;slap on the wrist&#8221; fine.</p>
<p>2)It will be a simple fixation system to transition to when it is finally approved. I recently traveled to Canada where they use a tether with the LUAS/Latch/Isofix system and it was so simple once I figured out the installation. The system is simple yet there are still errors (albeit fewer) that can be made when using it.  My big concern would be that parents are used to the seat belt fixing method so decide to combine Isofix/LUAS/Latch with it against recommendation and cause undue stress on the restraint increasing the risk of injury due to restraint failure cause by the stress. This will need to be addressed in a major ad campaign so the mistake is not made as it commonly was when the Isofix/LUAS/Latch systems were initially introduced. </p>
<p>NOTE -the Isofix &amp; LUAS/Latch systems are NOT the same but similar. Isofix uses a removable base attachment and LUAS/Latch is fixed directly to the restraint and not removable. Also Latch fitted restraints also require the use of a top tether.</p>
<p>LUAS/Latch/Isofix restraints can also be used in aircraft which are all designed with the required anchorage bars recessed in the seats, resulting in much safer restraint &amp; safety for our children in the air also.</p>
<p>3)We need more rear facing restraint that allow rear facing up to a greater (22kg) weight as in the end, research &amp; testing proves out that his is by far the best protection for our children and they are very comfortable in it. </p>
<p>4) We do have very high (some of the highest in the world)  manufacture/safety/stress standards for child restraints here in Australia. But these are  undone in part by the rear/forward facing standards/requirements/laws.</p>
<p>5)Even the Isofix/LUAS/Latch systems can still result in traumatic/fatal injury to children forward facing. The big issue should be how long children are required to remain in restraints and forward or rear facing. These two factors affect their safety more than anything else. It should be according to weight/height, not age. </p>
<p>On another note;<br />
Most of the late model(newer)vehicles on Australia&#8217;s roads are unable to fit 3 full sized booster/child restraints across the back seat, even when attempted by professionals. I have several friends who have come across this problem even after being informed when the purchased the vehicle that they did comply &amp; would fit 3 restraints correctly. So most new 5 passenger vehicles will not properly support our new restraint laws creating a greater risk to our children and placing a greater burden on families. Unless you by a 7 passenger vehicle if you have 3 children under the size/age for restraint requirements. This is something else that needs to be addressed by our government- Why are they allowing vehicles into the country that cannot meet the requirements to fit multiple child restraints which are being marketed as 5 passenger vehicles suitable for 3 restraints across the rear seat? That or they should be working to  find a way to reduce the financial burden on families with more that 2 children so the regulations can be correctly adhered to.</p>
<p>A last note; Australia has some of the highest costing restraints and because of this many people use old/outdated/unsafe ones because of the exorbitant cost of the newer safer models. Maybe our illustrious government should regulate this too for the safety of our children if they require us all to comply with the new laws regarding them. It was cheaper for me to buy a high level restraint in Canada for 3 1/2 months we were traveling there, &amp; I&#8217;m a single parent on a low income, than to rent one. Something that would not be possible at our outrageous costs here.</p>
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		<title>By: kateinlondon</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/58898/child-restraint-safety-how-will-australias-new-laws-affect-your-child/#comment-317188</link>
		<dc:creator>kateinlondon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 21:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but you can get two isofix on either side and another standard carseat in the middle (if you have a car that can fit three carseats across the back) - i have three and this is what we have done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but you can get two isofix on either side and another standard carseat in the middle (if you have a car that can fit three carseats across the back) &#8211; i have three and this is what we have done.</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/58898/child-restraint-safety-how-will-australias-new-laws-affect-your-child/#comment-314600</link>
		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 20:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>once they&#039;ve out grown the seat age weight back middle is best and recommended. through after transition to forward facing carseat a head/neck protector might be worthlooking in to no matter their age for when they want to sleep no matter how good your seat is their heads will still tip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>once they&#8217;ve out grown the seat age weight back middle is best and recommended. through after transition to forward facing carseat a head/neck protector might be worthlooking in to no matter their age for when they want to sleep no matter how good your seat is their heads will still tip.</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
		<link>http://www.caradvice.com.au/58898/child-restraint-safety-how-will-australias-new-laws-affect-your-child/#comment-314597</link>
		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 20:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can&#039;t fit 3 childseats in australia with an isofix they can in the example countries because they also allow infants to travel in the front seat as long as the airbag is disabled with or without isofix. which is properly the main reason it doesn&#039;t meet australian saftey standards.if it is approved what&#039;s to stop parents who already drive cars fitted with it from putting the child in their front seat after all the isofix is there. some people have already said they&#039;d rather face the fine. not all US seats come with isofix and top tether, some US seats even have three point harness and chest staps that can puncture ribs or lungs on impact. not all isofix seats come with a top tether another reason it&#039;s not legal. 6 months rear facing is minimium it&#039;s up to the parents to decide if their child should go longer refacing seats after that. you have to remember every child grows differently wieght and height is a factor in rear facing seats. think about it this away it&#039;s okay for your child to use a seatbelt (also a law in australia no matter your age)once they&#039;ve out grown their seat. when they will most likely weigh more then they and their carseat or booter seat did combined at some point in their lives or at least close to equal it. it&#039;s okay for yourself to trust australian seatbelts to keep you and your weight whatever it maybe safe but not a carseat that weights farless even with your child in it? install your carseat corectly have it checked by certifed professionals before placing your child in it. which we have ads advicing us to do and well as certain days in the year where it&#039;s free or you get a discount to get it done. get a seat cover, blanket, carseat undermat if it seems like the seats moving but also check your tethers they may not be tight enough and be grateful australia has such high standards. if you don&#039;t believe their high check out infant carseats on you tube for other countries america, england, europe ect and their actual laws concerning cartravel for children and even adults they might surprise you. even licence gaining processes. their are seats available in australia for bigger children you just have to look for them</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can&#8217;t fit 3 childseats in australia with an isofix they can in the example countries because they also allow infants to travel in the front seat as long as the airbag is disabled with or without isofix. which is properly the main reason it doesn&#8217;t meet australian saftey standards.if it is approved what&#8217;s to stop parents who already drive cars fitted with it from putting the child in their front seat after all the isofix is there. some people have already said they&#8217;d rather face the fine. not all US seats come with isofix and top tether, some US seats even have three point harness and chest staps that can puncture ribs or lungs on impact. not all isofix seats come with a top tether another reason it&#8217;s not legal. 6 months rear facing is minimium it&#8217;s up to the parents to decide if their child should go longer refacing seats after that. you have to remember every child grows differently wieght and height is a factor in rear facing seats. think about it this away it&#8217;s okay for your child to use a seatbelt (also a law in australia no matter your age)once they&#8217;ve out grown their seat. when they will most likely weigh more then they and their carseat or booter seat did combined at some point in their lives or at least close to equal it. it&#8217;s okay for yourself to trust australian seatbelts to keep you and your weight whatever it maybe safe but not a carseat that weights farless even with your child in it? install your carseat corectly have it checked by certifed professionals before placing your child in it. which we have ads advicing us to do and well as certain days in the year where it&#8217;s free or you get a discount to get it done. get a seat cover, blanket, carseat undermat if it seems like the seats moving but also check your tethers they may not be tight enough and be grateful australia has such high standards. if you don&#8217;t believe their high check out infant carseats on you tube for other countries america, england, europe ect and their actual laws concerning cartravel for children and even adults they might surprise you. even licence gaining processes. their are seats available in australia for bigger children you just have to look for them</p>
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		<title>By: Yogi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yogi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there no way of setting up a petition?? We imported our car over from the UK with our baby seat in it but have refused to use the car seats you get out here...It is not safe and I would rather get fined each time I get caught then risk my kids life!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there no way of setting up a petition?? We imported our car over from the UK with our baby seat in it but have refused to use the car seats you get out here&#8230;It is not safe and I would rather get fined each time I get caught then risk my kids life!</p>
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		<title>By: Extra info</title>
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		<dc:creator>Extra info</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 00:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please keep in mind that all current European and Japanese 5 seat vehicles with ISOfix can only have 2 ISOfix seats in the vehicle. ie. You can not fit 3 child seats in a car if you use ISOfix. I don&#039;t think people understand this.

So ISOfix may be great if you have one or two children, but is you have 3 you will have a problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please keep in mind that all current European and Japanese 5 seat vehicles with ISOfix can only have 2 ISOfix seats in the vehicle. ie. You can not fit 3 child seats in a car if you use ISOfix. I don&#8217;t think people understand this.</p>
<p>So ISOfix may be great if you have one or two children, but is you have 3 you will have a problem.</p>
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		<title>By: AC</title>
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		<dc:creator>AC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 08:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I contacted Standards Aust about if/when they will evaluate ISOFIX systems and they responded that &quot;the Committee responsible for AS/NZS 1754 is about to commence a new program of work to revise the standard. This work will include the use of lower attachment systems, such as ISOFIX. The project has a 2-year timeframe.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I contacted Standards Aust about if/when they will evaluate ISOFIX systems and they responded that &#8220;the Committee responsible for AS/NZS 1754 is about to commence a new program of work to revise the standard. This work will include the use of lower attachment systems, such as ISOFIX. The project has a 2-year timeframe.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Muuuuuuuuuum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Muuuuuuuuuum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2011 11:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a mum to two boys and have another one on the way. My 19 month old and 4 year old are both in safe and sound maxi riders. They have been professionally installed and yet still have so much movement. I do have leather seats, but I don&#039;t believe this is the problem. I think the seats just don&#039;t work well with the shape of the back seat of the car (vy calais).

Having the isofix system installed would mean that this would no longer be a problem as they would be fixed better to the car, and that perhaps I would be able to get a third seat in, instead of needing to get a seven seater to be able to accomodate three sustralian standard car seats (2x maxi riders and 1x sns meridian).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a mum to two boys and have another one on the way. My 19 month old and 4 year old are both in safe and sound maxi riders. They have been professionally installed and yet still have so much movement. I do have leather seats, but I don&#8217;t believe this is the problem. I think the seats just don&#8217;t work well with the shape of the back seat of the car (vy calais).</p>
<p>Having the isofix system installed would mean that this would no longer be a problem as they would be fixed better to the car, and that perhaps I would be able to get a third seat in, instead of needing to get a seven seater to be able to accomodate three sustralian standard car seats (2x maxi riders and 1x sns meridian).</p>
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